Just went on my first shadow lair not too long ago, and even with just the increased defence my ol glacius and blitz needle can't do any damage, not to mention the fact that I'm using vog cub armor. Thank you Grey havens, very cool
I'm gearing up to do my first shadow lair rn, but the more SK content I indulge in, the more I don't want to try a shadow lair. I hope we all get free disk guns as compensation.
Hot damn. This is something destiny 2 players have become used to. Having stupid difficulties for basically no rewards. Goes to show how normal and sane the SK community is. Such a great game
Having left the game for about 4/5 years due to responsibilities and stuff I still have 2 shadow keys that I picked up to use solo or with my old team. Nowadays none of my old friends play at all anymore and Ive come back to the game to see whats changed and to get back into it, i dont think Id even dare try the shadow lairs out at all now
It feels less intentional and more like GH fucking up and then saying "its a feature not a bug" more than anything else. They were clearly able to fix It Came From Below, and yet they thought keeping SLs t4 was a good idea? Shit doesn't quite add up.
Absolute SCAMED and still the same until this year i hear stuff back when this update came out stuff about 6 star gear, idk why, they should make 5 star stuff better but 6?? im down for that but sadly, there is no longer hope
Its not three rings though, Grey Havens is a completely different company that took over three rings dead games and kept them alive just to use them as a cash cow
I'm bad at SK, I pretty much cannot complete these lairs no matter how much time I put in, and have almost no reward for them compared to just doing regular Vana on elite
This update could be a prelude to a larger one for later and the shadow lairs was just the first completed to see how it would be recieved. They may be planning to add other rewards or reason to it later that will give meaning to the increased difficulty. The lairs are supposed to contain things unavailable anywhere else. It could be testing to see how much of an increase players would need if a new star rating for gear was added to make the fight in the shadow lairs more fun. Or a clockworks overhaul increasing the depth to travel to the core. Just some thoughts for as to why a developer would release these changes.
Sl are stupid now Im full black kat ( max damage) My voltedge with charge high , undead low ( becomes max ) My charge attack does 20% on 1 slag 1 SLAG "If its not fun , why bother"
It wasn't a shadow update, it was a sloppy progammin by the all mighty gray havens, they kep it because guess what, more sparks = more poeple buying e = more money to be milked. Why would they make the loot proportional, then you would make this more viable and people would buy energy with in-game currency and that can't be allowed right?
An idea I have for a fix (along with hoping this actually comes out) is just releasing a tier 4 along with new 6* weapons that trump the stats of 5* and a slightly less grindy system
@@themcmlxxxix9903 no no, my concept was to decrease the grind overall, so the players don't get frustrated as much (context, I did a 4 hour run for 5 days and got 0 eternal orbs, got extremely frustrated)
@@themcmlxxxix9903 they need to do *something* to fix the topend because at the end of the day the game is already pretty slavery grindy at a high level, especially once they effectively doubled the length of every shadow lair. honestly even just better weapon scaling would help - make it so you still die in 2 or 3 hits but you can at least also kill enemies
Just went on my first shadow lair not too long ago, and even with just the increased defence my ol glacius and blitz needle can't do any damage, not to mention the fact that I'm using vog cub armor.
Thank you Grey havens, very cool
Ooo, we have the same load-out! :3
fix neutralizer first, then we can talk.
I'm gearing up to do my first shadow lair rn, but the more SK content I indulge in, the more I don't want to try a shadow lair. I hope we all get free disk guns as compensation.
I'm hoping this game gets a revival cuz it's a great game anyone would love but not marketed properly
The boosted health and damage reminds me a lot of Master Mode in Terraria
having just played through that, yes it actually is. Atleast in master mode you get the little trophies.
Hot damn. This is something destiny 2 players have become used to. Having stupid difficulties for basically no rewards. Goes to show how normal and sane the SK community is. Such a great game
Having left the game for about 4/5 years due to responsibilities and stuff I still have 2 shadow keys that I picked up to use solo or with my old team. Nowadays none of my old friends play at all anymore and Ive come back to the game to see whats changed and to get back into it, i dont think Id even dare try the shadow lairs out at all now
It feels less intentional and more like GH fucking up and then saying "its a feature not a bug" more than anything else. They were clearly able to fix It Came From Below, and yet they thought keeping SLs t4 was a good idea?
Shit doesn't quite add up.
None of the feedback given here has been watched by anyone.
Do you think it's hard to get the snarbolax gear with all these things?
yes it will be really hard to get trough shadow lairs now
Did you send this video to the game masters??? Do they know what problem they have made?
nice
you're nice, shanguy
Yeah, nobody wanted to run SL with me.
Absolute SCAMED
and still the same until this year
i hear stuff back when this update came out
stuff about 6 star gear, idk why, they should make 5 star stuff better but 6?? im down for that
but sadly, there is no longer hope
That's the kind of thing you cant say in heaven xD All the fan boys are gonna scream at you for not loving three rings watch out x)
Its not three rings though, Grey Havens is a completely different company that took over three rings dead games and kept them alive just to use them as a cash cow
Have they fixed this yet?
no :[
rip people who want to get that armor
I'm bad at SK, I pretty much cannot complete these lairs no matter how much time I put in, and have almost no reward for them compared to just doing regular Vana on elite
you say that, and then pyrosparker solos all lairs, elite, no deaths or healing items
@@Bubba_Squid but i would still have to put up with it nonthelness, i get your point
@@Bubba_Squid people get attached to games
Pellets: 25
This update could be a prelude to a larger one for later and the shadow lairs was just the first completed to see how it would be recieved. They may be planning to add other rewards or reason to it later that will give meaning to the increased difficulty. The lairs are supposed to contain things unavailable anywhere else.
It could be testing to see how much of an increase players would need if a new star rating for gear was added to make the fight in the shadow lairs more fun. Or a clockworks overhaul increasing the depth to travel to the core.
Just some thoughts for as to why a developer would release these changes.
Huh I'm surprised the game still getting updates.
Shadow lairs gear is some of the worst in the game??? Damn, I wish I knew that before getting iron valk for my first set
Excellent, just the update a declining game like this needed /s
Agreed.
oh boy and I wanted to run at least 2 SL before quitting the game again
They fixed sl or it still like this?
Fixed, partially, enemies have reduced defense now but deal the same tier 4 damage I think.
Sl are stupid now
Im full black kat ( max damage)
My voltedge with charge high , undead low ( becomes max )
My charge attack does 20% on 1 slag
1 SLAG
"If its not fun , why bother"
Imma do it with 4* gear anyway
It wasn't a shadow update, it was a sloppy progammin by the all mighty gray havens, they kep it because guess what, more sparks = more poeple buying e = more money to be milked. Why would they make the loot proportional, then you would make this more viable and people would buy energy with in-game currency and that can't be allowed right?
"more sparks = more poeple buying e"
does anyone even buy sparks tho
Shanguy not personally but I know many people that buys sparks from depot just to do the shitty lairs
Just in general they need to give the end game content a good look at. Its like spiral knights is being ignored
An idea I have for a fix (along with hoping this actually comes out) is just releasing a tier 4 along with new 6* weapons that trump the stats of 5* and a slightly less grindy system
not to be semantic but that is far, far greater in scale than just a fix
@@smonkk8556 now that I read my comment and look at grey havens, you're right
This is exactly how to kill a game. Add 6 7 or 8 stars destroys the diversity and makes the game slavery grindy.
@@themcmlxxxix9903 no no, my concept was to decrease the grind overall, so the players don't get frustrated as much (context, I did a 4 hour run for 5 days and got 0 eternal orbs, got extremely frustrated)
@@themcmlxxxix9903 they need to do *something* to fix the topend because at the end of the day the game is already pretty slavery grindy at a high level, especially once they effectively doubled the length of every shadow lair. honestly even just better weapon scaling would help - make it so you still die in 2 or 3 hits but you can at least also kill enemies