The Warriors Have One BIG Problem

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  • Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
  • #NBA #Warriors
    The Warriors are having a horrible start to the season. People are pointing to some young players like James Wiseman holding them back. This is a look at the big mistake they are making and how to fix it.
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  • @AMHoops
    @AMHoops  Рік тому +108

    I honestly thought people would hate the trade for the Warriors, not the Spurs!! Shows how low Wiseman’s value actually is right now 😮

    • @vinniechan
      @vinniechan Рік тому +11

      pop can coach until 100 yr old and in no rush to compete why would Spurs give away picks

    • @andremansour8787
      @andremansour8787 Рік тому +3

      Yeah. As a Warriors fan I don't see why the spurs would do this trade unless they can't find other suitors. Seems pretty lopsided for such a strong starter in Poeltl.

    • @cantfailent
      @cantfailent Рік тому

      The spurs should do a trade like this because they want that 7 foot kid in the draft. Having Wiseman instead of Poeltl at center would almost guarantee them the first pick. Besides they're going nowhere with Poeltl right now and he's really good. If Wiseman pans out they have a new twin towers. The Warriors need to move off Wiseman now. They can't wait for him to get it. It looks like it will be at least 2 or 3 years before he does and that's normal for big men. The Warriors didn't think that pick through very well. The Dubs should've drafted LaMelo and traded for or signed a young, experienced big man in free agency. They also should've drafted Franz at 7 instead of Kuminga and Koloko in the 2nd round. Arrogance and not basketball savvy is starting to show in the Warriors organization. Anyway, if the Warriors get their heads out of their collective asses, this could be a win, win for both teams. Poeltl, McDermott, 2 or 1 first rounders for Wiseman and Divincenzo. Warriors dominant now and possibly later and the Spurs rise again within the next 2 seasons. Win, Win!

    • @LuciolaKittaj
      @LuciolaKittaj Рік тому +3

      I was gonna say. Two firsts for Wiseman? Right now? That's asking a lot.

    • @nathanielsinlao1698
      @nathanielsinlao1698 Рік тому

      @@cantfailent good thing you’re not the Warriors GM. Don’t think Myers has anything to worry about. Thanks though for you insight that no one cares about. Thanks.

  • @billdover3165
    @billdover3165 Рік тому +225

    I honestly still believe getting rid of Gary Payton II was a stupid move. He's a damn good player and he was a really key component of that championship team last year. I hate that he's gone.

    • @Dnero518
      @Dnero518 Рік тому +20

      Yeah he fit really well on Golden State and boosted there defense really well, kinda like a different guard version of Draymond for them.

    • @zType2
      @zType2 Рік тому +22

      Facts... its not even like he signed a big ass contract either.

    • @tjslam26
      @tjslam26 Рік тому +8

      Almost 2x Divincenzo. Payton and Otto earned contracts 2x richer than Divincenzo and Jamychal Green - a much bigger deal given GS' luxury tax. I think JTA and Damion Lee were probably easier to keep.

    • @kafeinfaita6715
      @kafeinfaita6715 Рік тому +15

      They offered him a contract but couldn't afford his asking salary.

    • @agb346
      @agb346 Рік тому +8

      Yeah but he’s still not playing now, he’s injured. I don’t think it would make any difference. Otto too.

  • @aiwarz
    @aiwarz Рік тому +234

    there is no way spurs giving away picks for wiseman

    • @MangoBums
      @MangoBums Рік тому +5

      i think steve kerr can convince popovich

    • @09lowkey
      @09lowkey Рік тому +38

      I was saying the same thing, Peoltl aint no scrub and why would they give away picks for unproven Wiseman?

    • @sadiusx774
      @sadiusx774 Рік тому +5

      @@09lowkey Cuz he’s young they’ll develop him for the future

    • @SkyraXD
      @SkyraXD Рік тому +14

      If Wiseman plays under Pop he would turn him into a David Robinson they love bigs

    • @kevindurant2106
      @kevindurant2106 Рік тому +8

      @@sadiusx774 doesn't mean they need to give upa pick for him

  • @escoofimpakt
    @escoofimpakt Рік тому +284

    Wiseman not only doesnt have basketball intelligence he gets pushed around by point guards... and kerr is constantly yelling at him to stop jogging and run... he doesnt have a motor either send him Wiseman to the G league to develop or trade him he could get smarter with experience but history shows players that dont have a motor or drive dont magically change....

    • @xposebandwagons7777
      @xposebandwagons7777 Рік тому +31

      the warriors are ruining James he's always been a iso center back to the basket since highschool now he's only forced to screen and rebound trade him asap no center can develop with only 15 mins a game they already forced him to stop shooting the 3 send him to the bulls where he can. actually play through mistakes

    • @naranja1972
      @naranja1972 Рік тому +17

      what? do you watch the games? wiseman is always sprinting hard. he lacks exp/ and know how of an nba center, which comes with time but dude does not lack "motor". stop throwing that shit around.

    • @revenge8215
      @revenge8215 Рік тому +1

      Didn’t they win the chip without him? No big deal.

    • @SkyraXD
      @SkyraXD Рік тому +2

      @@xposebandwagons7777 rebound and screen if that's his role he needs to focus on that

    • @SkyraXD
      @SkyraXD Рік тому

      @@EagleLegend502 he's a gamer I don't think he has low IQ he keeps trying to do everything and it shows. You can see it's too fast for him

  • @szymciupol
    @szymciupol Рік тому +107

    To people thinking its low value - just remember Bagley was also a 2nd overall pick. And Okafor was 3rd. Those guys got traded literally for peanuts (no offense to DiVincenzo and Trevor Booker) in their rookie scale contracts after being disappointing. Wiseman is only on rookie scale for one more year after this, already had a season lost to injury and frankly simply has only looked good in moments. And his value still can surely get lower if he keeps playing like this. And Casey is straight on the money here - what happens after next year in his RFA? What if some team with cap space max or close to max Wiseman, even gives him 20 mil per year? Dubs can't really spend much on him as is. And losing your 2nd overall pick for literally nothing would sting.

    • @SkyraXD
      @SkyraXD Рік тому +3

      Nah if they lose him for nothing it's just a learning experience they picked wrong and that's okay

    • @SkyraXD
      @SkyraXD Рік тому

      I don't think they losing sleep over a bad investment

    • @grmrbrts5123
      @grmrbrts5123 Рік тому +4

      What sane person would think that trade would be low value for the Dubs? Seriously wtf is going on in people's heads?

    • @ronaldrenearmstrong9872
      @ronaldrenearmstrong9872 Рік тому

      You need to learn to listen...Bob Myers stated he's hoping Green opts in 2023. Which is smart giving the young guys a whole years experience
      Actually almost 2 years. TIRE OF THESE DUMB ASS TRADE IDEALS. LET THE EXPERT DECIDE....
      .

    • @ronaldrenearmstrong9872
      @ronaldrenearmstrong9872 Рік тому +1

      The bust rule starts to go into effect after 3 whole years. My 40 years experience.. Kevin Knox to me a bust. Bagley now that he's on lottery team with no urgency to win...

  • @goodmooneung
    @goodmooneung Рік тому +25

    Only halfway through the video but can we appreciate the approach Wiseman took in terms of his mental health when we compare it to another certain player who went number one overall in 2016 in the draft cough cough.

  • @abhinavaman08
    @abhinavaman08 Рік тому +55

    Wait a second, did you say Poetl and 2 picks for Wiseman. Bro, Warriors needs to send 2 picks for Poetl for that trade.

    • @vinniechan
      @vinniechan Рік тому +5

      Exactly. Pop can coach until he is 100 yr old so we are in no rush to compete lol

    • @Dnero518
      @Dnero518 Рік тому +5

      I was thinking that why would San Antonio do that when there trying to get more picks. They could do way better for Jakob, he's a nice big who could fit really well on a lot of championship contenders.

    • @Equilyzr
      @Equilyzr Рік тому +2

      @@vinniechan i gotta feeling pop retiring in the next 5-7 years

    • @vinniechan
      @vinniechan Рік тому +1

      @@Equilyzr in 5-7 yr time Curry will be 40 lol

    • @trebledc
      @trebledc Рік тому

      Wiseman is not worth the trade.

  • @Grievous_
    @Grievous_ Рік тому +102

    As a Warriors fan I’d do that trade in a heartbeat, if we get Poeltl who’s a great rebounder and plays good defense it would fill holes and issues within our bench, oh and Poeltl knows how to set screens too. Im hoping Wiseman can progress to being great at rebounding, playing defense and setting screens but right now it’s just not working.

    • @ronaldrenearmstrong9872
      @ronaldrenearmstrong9872 Рік тому +2

      POELTL ON EXPIRING CONRACT. GSW NOT PAYING OUT ANOTHER HUGE CONTRACT.

    • @grmrbrts5123
      @grmrbrts5123 Рік тому +1

      @@ronaldrenearmstrong9872 Doesn't matter. Poeltl would help them win again. Wiseman wont. Anyone would give up Wiseman for a better chance to win a title (and two picks lol, yeah right)

    • @matthewwinter3927
      @matthewwinter3927 Рік тому +12

      Yea we know real question is why tf would the spurs do it

    • @thebestever160
      @thebestever160 Рік тому +2

      @@matthewwinter3927 well, the Slow Ass Spurs would get younger, just a bit more athletic & buy them another year until Wisebust becomes a RFA.

    • @grapeape1965
      @grapeape1965 Рік тому +7

      Of course you would, that trade would never be on the table for wiseman lmao. If it were the warriors would have done it ten times. And the spurs sure as hell aren’t wasting picks plus one of the better defensive centers worth a first round pick himself, On trashman wiseman

  • @vinniechan
    @vinniechan Рік тому +111

    Coming from a Spurs fan, I say take a hike on that trade.
    If Dubs want Jakob they should be the one sending us picks

    • @Cookiejar-fy4wb
      @Cookiejar-fy4wb Рік тому +29

      True. As of right now, Jakob has higher value than James

    • @ignacioruiz6196
      @ignacioruiz6196 Рік тому

      Idk bro, 2 picks is a lot and Jakob is a beast, but if Wiseman goes to the g league and looks good then i would probably as well

    • @Grievous_
      @Grievous_ Рік тому +14

      Lol right, im a Warriors fan and when I saw that trade package I would be like “hell yea, let’s do it” but in reality we’d be the ones having to give up picks because no way the Spurs just get wiseman and lose Poeltl who’s clearly better

    • @FalseNi9e
      @FalseNi9e Рік тому

      Exactly

    • @jakescott1572
      @jakescott1572 Рік тому +1

      As a Warriors fan whose always believed in all of our young players apart from wiseman, my dream trade this year was Wiseman for Jakob and a second round pick. I couldn’t agree with you more

  • @delmorelouis639
    @delmorelouis639 Рік тому +9

    So nobody gonna talk about how strong Wiseman's mother has to be to carry him?👀

  • @09lowkey
    @09lowkey Рік тому +9

    I don't see how this trade makes sense for the Spurs. Trading Poeltl makes sense but giving up 2 1sts in a deal for a young player with injury history doesn't make sense from a business perspective. If Poeltl is available they can find a better deal than that.

  • @Dnero518
    @Dnero518 Рік тому +2

    If Wiseman can get Poeltl and 1sts that would be a heist. Even just Jakob Poeltl alone for Wiseman would be a steal for the Warriors. He's so much better than Wiseman. He could start for Golden State.

  • @mrforrest
    @mrforrest Рік тому +1

    You are a freaking basketball genius. every video is a banger keep it up

  • @jambononi
    @jambononi Рік тому +25

    I've heard Warriors have one of the most complicated systems in the league (probably why they have so many championships) but it's really hard for young players. Wiseman will be immense but to get good as a player and learn PhD level basketball at the same time might be too much too soon.

    • @zType2
      @zType2 Рік тому +9

      I mean I get what you're saying... but they're literally just asking him to set a good screen and don't foul out in 20 minutes. If a center can't do these basics hes damn sure not going to thrive in the Warriors system.

    • @jambononi
      @jambononi Рік тому +4

      @@zType2 yeah but my point being is this one of 20 plays and he probably forgot the exact foot work in the middle of a game whilst being on a shit run after having been injured for the majority of his NBA and highschool career... He's probably in a vicious downward spiral. This is as good as his rookie year. But yeah, it's not changing the reality that he's not up to the standard they want. And they need someone more experienced basically.

    • @isaacdebeila8085
      @isaacdebeila8085 Рік тому +5

      That's why warriors need to focus on getting high IQ players over physical talents who haven't developed a great BB IQ

    • @Kenny-bj2zq
      @Kenny-bj2zq Рік тому

      We don'[t need young kids we need experienced ballers who can play team defense/offense - The future is now it's win or go home and players like Curry come once in your life time - After he is gone you may not ring for another 20 years............

  • @alasdairmacdonald9838
    @alasdairmacdonald9838 Рік тому +2

    I'm not going to defend Wiseman because you can't at this point and I was never that high on him to begin with. I wish the kid luck but he just is on the wrong team at the wrong time. When Steph is still this godly in his powers you have to do everything you can to build the best team around him you can. For me that has never meant a flashy trade for a big name, it's about complimentary pieces.
    The bench sucks but the Starters haven't covered themselves in glory. No one on the team has really been defending well consistently. Plenty of lazy close outs all over the place and it's often a layup line for the other team to the rim which explains all the undisciplined fouling they have been doing.

  • @plumrains5010
    @plumrains5010 Рік тому +3

    Always love the level headed takes from this channel.

    • @enigmaspeaks6341
      @enigmaspeaks6341 Рік тому

      Well, maybe but this 1 misses the mark on common sense.

  • @jamesleadley7872
    @jamesleadley7872 Рік тому +16

    The Spurs always trade away high draft picks that want to get overpaid...no clue why you think they want Wiseman here. They just dumped Dejonte. You covered the Spurs right? You know all this?

    • @vinniechan
      @vinniechan Рік тому

      To be fair I'd do that trade if we receive picks instead of giving them.away
      We dont need to two first round just one first round or even a.second round picks will do
      Wiseman age lines up with the rest of the team nicely and if we give him time to develop and make mistakes it just helps us tank

    • @justinjames__423
      @justinjames__423 Рік тому

      @@vinniechan lol

  • @latifaust3302
    @latifaust3302 Рік тому +10

    I think that the best idea for Wiseman is letting play in the G league, as A.M. suggests, but furthemore to let him develop, and gives him some time. In 2-3 years, if he works hard enough, he'll be a good player.

  • @resourceagency8477
    @resourceagency8477 Рік тому +2

    Great take. I like the concrete detail. The added depth of perspective on a play call by Steve. Your Analysis is based on data not opinion. Love it!

  • @andysauro1500
    @andysauro1500 Рік тому +11

    I'd 100% go after Jonathan Isaac if I'm the Warriors. That guy is the absolute perfect fit, looks like he's retained his athleticism from the workout vids posted, and may find himself having a hard time squeezing into Orlando's lineups considering they're already massive at every position. A Wiseman + Orlando's choice of Moody/Kuminga + maybe some picks for Isaac would be great for both teams IMO.

    • @ibrodinho
      @ibrodinho Рік тому +7

      They’re not gonna let MAGA Isaac anywhere near the Bay Area lol

    • @antoniouy9704
      @antoniouy9704 Рік тому

      Instead of isaac who is injury prone i'd rather have carter

  • @Verdaddd
    @Verdaddd Рік тому +7

    Thats why golden state should think about signing dwight howard. One of the greatest bigman, he can be a very good teacher to wiseman, can do plays for curry poole or klay since hes good at screening, and can defend the rim very well.

  • @RansomBallard
    @RansomBallard Рік тому +3

    The Luxury Tax is going to break up the Warriors soon.

  • @tirosc
    @tirosc Рік тому +3

    If you think about it, Wiseman spent most of his 'downtime' honing his personal basketball skills. Haven't ran that much plays with GSW since he was injured and certainly going to the GLeague running a different playbook doesn't help practice the rotations. Give him some time to get used to it and understand Curry's needs. Overreacting on Wiseman, Klay, Draymond, Poole and whoever else isn't going to help GSW get better.

  • @dondadda8207
    @dondadda8207 Рік тому

    Great video I appreciate how well you articulate your thoughts

  • @ecobean3440
    @ecobean3440 Рік тому +1

    Zach LaVine, Tony Bradley, and 1st rd pick via Portland to Warriors/ Jordan Poole, James Wiseman, Patrick Baldwin, and 3 1st rd picks Bulls.

  • @zType2
    @zType2 Рік тому +6

    When you're playing for the Warriors all you need to do is set a good screen and roll and on the other end just play smart defense. He's got guard skills and it seems he's more focused on being a guard than a center. You have Stephen Curry on your team. If you can't do well on the Warriors it's hard for me to say he's going to do better anywhere else.

  • @abelow9721
    @abelow9721 Рік тому +13

    Normally I like your analyses, but factoring in the warriors team culture, they will suffer through the rough start and will give their young players time to develop. The problem is all the outside chatter. The success of the warriors made everybody impatient. I hope the team can stay calm and wiseman and kaminga stay cool.

    • @yanncourtel8538
      @yanncourtel8538 Рік тому +2

      Preach man, these casuals that want a blockbuster trade are insufferable...

    • @iamtheonlywilly
      @iamtheonlywilly Рік тому

      That’s called resilience 👍🏾

    • @Richxwolf
      @Richxwolf Рік тому

      Didnt work out well :(

  • @MrE_
    @MrE_ Рік тому +10

    Moses Moody is the only young guy that can be a championship role player right now. Kuminga and wisemen are too raw

  • @bradenschroeder3097
    @bradenschroeder3097 Рік тому +4

    Opj was our offensive spark plug he would come in when we were cold and hit back to back threes. Gp2 was the defensive spark plug. We’re missing a lot in losing those two specifically

    • @MVP-JB
      @MVP-JB Рік тому

      Yeah for real when Otto shoot it's going in

  • @marco477utep
    @marco477utep Рік тому +4

    Thats a no for the Spurs. Poeltl is one of the best defensive and pick and roll bigs in the league. Having Green and Poeltl would be crazy defense. Maybe Wiseman for only Poeltl but keep in mind the Warriors need Poeltl more than the Spurs need Wiseman.

  • @GBnHawaii
    @GBnHawaii Рік тому +1

    Or rebuild... Green Wiseman for Vucevic Williams Terry! Clear the air and keep growing in the right direction. Vucevic takes the point role from Draymond. Williams has a great defensive potential. Terry is in the mold of Iggy and the perfect building block. Forward minutes are up for grabs between JG Williams Kuminga PBJ.
    Vucevic Looney PBJ
    JG Williams Kuminga
    Wiggins Terry Lamb
    Klay Poole Moody
    Curry DiVincenzo Rollins

  • @therealcarltonj9775
    @therealcarltonj9775 Рік тому +3

    We will be just fine. We always figure it out.

    • @essentialeugene
      @essentialeugene Рік тому

      No we won't. Our bench is not good. The Bucks will win the 2023 NBA Finals.

    • @therealcarltonj9775
      @therealcarltonj9775 Рік тому

      @@essentialeugene oh ye of little faith.. 😏🤏

    • @therealcarltonj9775
      @therealcarltonj9775 Рік тому

      @Nev Miscellaneous naw we good we will adjust and be good. We will run it back to back or win next year.. either or..

  • @anirudhkaimal5127
    @anirudhkaimal5127 Рік тому +2

    bruh, they just need time. how are you so definitively sure just barely into the season. We as fans have a history of overreacting tbh. not dissing, it's easy to overreact in situations like these. as we cross the all Star break, the GSW will be back to championship calibre. Do not forget the best record in the pre-season last year was the Suns. So, don't be jumping onto conclusions.

  • @tjslam26
    @tjslam26 Рік тому +4

    I don't think it's just about the age. If, for example, they drafted Franz Wagner (evaluated to be primarily a defense guy at the time of the draft and has shown to have advanced well as a scorer/playmaker with size) instead of Kuminga (someone who I think has more raw potential/higher ceiling), they'd be in better shape. It's not the age but more about the rawness of Wiseman and Kuminga.
    I can't blame them for the Wiseman pick. His potential is a bit much to pass up on. Even if someone like Okongwu would play better in the same role today, that's a tough decision to make. Maybe if you were concerned enough about Wiseman's lack of post-HS play/tape and didn't want to add Lamelo Ball to an already crowded (when healthy) backcourt, maybe you could've opted to trade down. But if you were picking at #2, you are probably picking Ball or Wiseman.

  • @edraelsolas838
    @edraelsolas838 Рік тому +1

    The Wiseman for Jakob trade is quite lopsided, the warriors should at least send one or two 2nd round pick, if they still have some, or an expected very late 1st round pick.

  • @SHIUCHEUKKIULEONARDGG-
    @SHIUCHEUKKIULEONARDGG- Рік тому +3

    As a Warriors fan I think the trade is actually very beneficial for us, but for the Spurs they'd need really good luck. After Wiseman's rookie season, I wanted to wait till he was healthy to see how he was playing, and then decide whether to trade. As of now, it seems very likely he'll be gone by next season.

  • @ainsleymagluyan6083
    @ainsleymagluyan6083 Рік тому +3

    I like the video, but what I don't understand in the video is the picks in the mock trade. It should be the Warriors who send the picks and not the Spurs, because Jakob Poetl has the higher trade value than Wiseman. If the Warriors send the two picks in that trade, then it's a great deal for both teams.

  • @jforester7
    @jforester7 Рік тому +3

    As a hardcore Warriors fan, I'm totally fine with and open to the Warriors moving off of Wiseman and Kuminga. Wiseman for Jakob Poetl sounds fine to me. Wiseman is clearly going to be a multi-year project that might not even work, and they don't have that time to waste. Kuminga for Eric Pascal sounds great to me. Some of ya'll might think I'm insane for that Kuminga for Pascal trade, but hear me out. Pascal has been in the system before, so he knows it. He's super athletic, can jump super high, can rebound, can dunk, plays better defense than Kuminga, can shoot the three better and has a good mid range jumper and can shoot free throws, and most importantly, his basketball IQ and experience level is BY FAR superior to Kumingas. Jordan Poole and Moses Moody are young enough, they don't need such an overload of youth.

  • @JoshBeFreeTV
    @JoshBeFreeTV Рік тому +20

    Ia Wiseman really worth a Vet AND 2 draft picks?? Damn, inflation affects pro sports too, huh? 🤣

    • @parsifal40
      @parsifal40 Рік тому

      ikr 😅

    • @lonmaranadeo5187
      @lonmaranadeo5187 Рік тому +1

      Yeah agree, they'd already knew he's a bust and asking for additional 2 first round picks. What do Casey thinks the Spurs FO's crazy and dumb. Just to gain views for Warriors bandwagon fans.

  • @agentrocklee
    @agentrocklee Рік тому +6

    Why isn't anyone trading for Miles Turner??? 🤔...he would be perfect for this system...no one's talking about this

    • @aksator3814
      @aksator3814 Рік тому

      Huge contract and injured, but I do agree

    • @Martooo251
      @Martooo251 Рік тому

      @@aksator3814 He’s actually not on that big a contract. He’s being paid 18 million this year.
      To give a comparison wiseman on his rookie deal is being paid 9.6 million.
      Although the warriors have no real way of matching salary without including looney. Might sound decent for this season to trade both but Turner is in a contract year in which the warriors could not pay him what he’ll want whereas Looney is signed up for 3 years on a very team friendly deal

    • @ronaldrenearmstrong9872
      @ronaldrenearmstrong9872 Рік тому

      BIG ASS CONRACT 2023 OVER 20 MILLION. PEOPLE PLEASE READ...

  • @kobefurness4249
    @kobefurness4249 Рік тому +3

    If I'm the Spurs, I'm not giving up a starting center and 2 firsts for an unproven player. That's what you give for a really good starter/ fringe level all star

    • @kaiwei79
      @kaiwei79 Рік тому

      If the spurs do this then Greg pop should quit

  • @FalseNi9e
    @FalseNi9e Рік тому +3

    Bro,the Warriors would need to give 2 picks to the Spurs and more for Jakob 🤣 Wiseman is a bust and it's obvious

  • @sammymorales6838
    @sammymorales6838 Рік тому +1

    All of the Warriors young bucks are struggling, Poole can't seem to get it going and Kuminga, Wiseman and Moody are going through growing pains, better now than in May and June

  • @peteybrian
    @peteybrian Рік тому +1

    James Wiseman plus a first for Myles Turner. Poetl sounds great too. Wiseman (and Wanamaker and Kelly Oubre Jr.) was the reason the Warriors didn't make the playoffs a couple season's back. Unfortunately the owner loves this Wiseman kid... Kuminga often plays just as clueless at times.

  • @SR3TG119
    @SR3TG119 Рік тому +4

    Umm, that’s raptor’s legend jakub poetle to you sir!

  • @carrastealth
    @carrastealth Рік тому

    Big Men always take a few years to get into a groove in the league. Wiseman since High School, played less than 5 games of College Basketball, got injured his rookie season, missed his entire second season, and is NOW getting play time in a rotation on a consistent basis. Wiseman hasn't played competitive basketball consistently since High School. So him coming along slow was essentially expected.
    Who the Warriors expect more from right now, is Poole.

  • @BlackJesus698
    @BlackJesus698 Рік тому

    This content is great keep up the good work

  • @Mr.Oct___
    @Mr.Oct___ Рік тому +2

    Bruh...The Dubs haven't had a threat from the 5 spot since Javale Mcgee. This is literally his 1st yr. 10 games in ur screaming trade?? Knock it off. Let that young man develop. Letting Porter & Payton go was a bad move. Saw it a mile away. Defense & IQ gone out the window.

  • @walterruiz2130
    @walterruiz2130 Рік тому +17

    Honestly its been very disappointing to see the dubs start, but at least we've been in striking distance in every game we've lost, even after playing SO bad for long stretches. I am confident that the coaching staff will figure out a way to better utilize the roster. They always do.

    • @johnmarkson1990
      @johnmarkson1990 Рік тому

      the games are close. which tells me the coaching is fine. its on the players to just hit the shots better.

    • @yanncourtel8538
      @yanncourtel8538 Рік тому +1

      Thank you! Someone is actually watching games instead of panicking and crying over players we haven't kept. Were where these casuals when we were struggling last year, I wonder...

    • @walterruiz2130
      @walterruiz2130 Рік тому

      @@johnmarkson1990 is alla bout coaching my guy. Warriors hitting shots is not what is killing us in these close games. Its defense and lineups, and that is 90%+ coaching

    • @walterruiz2130
      @walterruiz2130 Рік тому

      @@yanncourtel8538 yessir! starters are killing everybody. If we find a couple more guys to contribute off the bench consistently and we start to play some D well be in great shape.

  • @nategalvez9326
    @nategalvez9326 Рік тому +6

    The warriors need a real back up center and a decent 3 and d player

  • @keynanvarnado7592
    @keynanvarnado7592 Рік тому +2

    Poeltl and 2 1sts for Wiseman is a joke lol. Poeltl is an actually good basketball player who is still only 27. Wiseman has proven nothing other than that he looks like the biggest bust in recent draft classes. The Spurs would ask for a 1st back along WITH Wiseman, nevermind sending anything else back.

  • @nbapbaupdate8338
    @nbapbaupdate8338 Рік тому +1

    Trade proposal
    Pacers receive: James Wiseman + Moses Moody
    Warriors receive: Myles Turner + Chris Duarte + 2027 first round pick

  • @Schi8694
    @Schi8694 Рік тому +2

    The Spurs wouldn’t be stupid enough to make that trade. You way overestimate Wiseman’s current value.

  • @trevor_4
    @trevor_4 Рік тому +1

    I don’t like the spurs trade, but for the spurs. The two picks are too much. Just a straight up swap would be better.

  • @iBladeSwifx
    @iBladeSwifx Рік тому +2

    Getting rid of the young players isn't going to do anything for the luxury tax and salary.

  • @WTC-1990
    @WTC-1990 Рік тому +1

    This is why Wiseman & Kuminga need to be traded for a vert
    I'd go
    Wiseman for Jakob Poeltl + 2 picks
    Kuminga + pick for Onyeka Okongwu
    Wiggins for OG Anunoby + pick
    1. Steph Curry
    2. Klay Thompson
    3. OG Anunoby
    4. Draymond Green
    5. Kevon Loony
    6. Jordan Poole
    7. Moses Moody
    8. Patrick Baldwin Jr
    9. Andre Iguodala
    10. Onyeka Okongwu
    11. Donte DiVincenzo
    12. Ty Jarome
    13. Anthony Lamb
    14. JaMychal Green
    15. Jakob Poeltl
    Then sign Dray $20 million 4 years
    Then sign Klay $20 million 4 years
    Then sign Jakob $9 million 2 years
    Andre Iguodala
    Donte DiVincenzo
    JaMychal Green
    all walk that the end of the season

    • @WTC-1990
      @WTC-1990 Рік тому

      The year after team
      1. Steph Curry
      2. Klay Thompson
      3. OG Anunoby
      4. Draymond Green
      5. Kevon Loony
      6. Jordan Poole
      7. Moses Moody
      8. Patrick Baldwin Jr
      9. Onyeka Okongwu
      10. Jakob Poeltl

  • @gelosalundagit4412
    @gelosalundagit4412 Рік тому

    100% agree, inexperienced young bench hurting the Dubs this season.

  • @davidrummel133
    @davidrummel133 Рік тому +1

    Wow, what the heck does James Wiseman's mom look like if she's carrying him to her apartment

  • @thinlion01
    @thinlion01 Рік тому +1

    Lemelo would have been a perfect fit in Golden State. Man loves to pass

  • @MrJadude
    @MrJadude Рік тому +4

    Lol those trades are laughable ... peotl is worth more than wiseman

  • @parsifal40
    @parsifal40 Рік тому +2

    Coulda had Melo Ball, even if its a bad fit his trade value would be insanely high. I said it was stupid back then and im still saying it they should have 100% drafted Melo

  • @dylantran4344
    @dylantran4344 Рік тому +1

    bro am hoops ur pre calls are too good "send wisemen to the g league" proceeds to send wisemen to the g league haha

  • @9FINGA
    @9FINGA Рік тому +1

    All those stats and you didn't point out Wise played how many minutes with Curry? Not even a games worth. Wise played 10 minutes the other day. And these young guys will be fine, not that a trade should be ruled out. Agree that all the young guys should get stints in the Gleague.

  • @Jon.A.Scholt
    @Jon.A.Scholt Рік тому +1

    Why the hell would the Spurs make that trade? There is zero chance anyone would trade a first rounder for him; at least not any first rounder before the 25th or so pick. Especially since you'd have to pay him!

  • @frankieclayton9303
    @frankieclayton9303 Рік тому +1

    You are so right ✅ 👏

  • @RaymondMonraz
    @RaymondMonraz Рік тому +1

    I'll be happy with Jakob Poetl for Wiseman straight up.

  • @aaronpeters6209
    @aaronpeters6209 Рік тому +3

    Wiseman's value is that high? Seems like the Warriors would have to sweeten the deal with a pick for Poeltl.

  • @Hmmmmmm487
    @Hmmmmmm487 Рік тому +1

    Love your vids! Top tier nba youtuber

  • @Baztation
    @Baztation Рік тому +1

    we need a defender like GPII.....ASAP

  • @Tstorm1468
    @Tstorm1468 Рік тому +1

    Tbh I think wiseman has a chance to be like Poole if he plays in the G league but only if he works really hard

  • @9FINGA
    @9FINGA Рік тому +1

    "Forget that Wiggins is a number 1 overall pick. That is inflating his value in your mind. Cut your losses." Luckily, Warriors think different.

  • @clabpr79
    @clabpr79 Рік тому +2

    2 frp + Jakob for Wiseman are you kidding? Right now Wiseman is a bust.

  • @ponterraenglishacademy7271
    @ponterraenglishacademy7271 Рік тому +2

    That's stupid. Why would the spurs send first round picks for a bust? Do better pls.

  • @leroyf57
    @leroyf57 Рік тому

    That bench = not enough experience...with those 3 young guys, they are trying to saving money. That luxury tax is a pain in the butt

  • @hiteshs6211
    @hiteshs6211 Рік тому

    The new sweatshirt is lookin GOOD!

  • @RichFlemingRealtor
    @RichFlemingRealtor Рік тому +5

    I hadn't thought of that trade (don't often see the Spurs anymore). I like it. People in the Bay are DEFINITELY starting to stress given the just wen 0 for the road. The priority here is to win more chips while Steph is still on top of his game. If that means the Warriors move on from Moody, Kuminga and/or Wiseman, so be it. I agree with keeping Draymond at this point, but he's gone after the season. Losing Payton was, by far, the Warriors' biggest offseason loss.

  • @beanobates6176
    @beanobates6176 Рік тому +2

    Nah. Like you said, wiseman's salary will be SAS's problem. Why trade for a future problem for jakob and picks?
    GSW should give picks instead. 😅😂

  • @pruney84
    @pruney84 Рік тому +3

    No one is giving up 2 firsts for Wiseman right now
    You might have a better chance if you trade Kuminga or Moody

  • @Ps7apple
    @Ps7apple Рік тому +1

    Let the kid develop, one of the most amazing things is watching these players develop. We watched Curry, Klay, and Green developed in front of us. We watched Wiggins and Poole develop. Give the kid something. Geez Cohan Warriors fans. You probably traded Curry with all his ankle injuries and keep Monta. Stop it.

  • @eliasmi6495
    @eliasmi6495 Рік тому +1

    poeltl is a great big most underrated center last year i'd say and top 5 in offensive rebounds

  • @donizzo30
    @donizzo30 Рік тому

    As A Knick Fan … I’d Deff Explore Mitchell Robinson & Drose Or Fournier For Wiseman & A Pick (Obviously Needa Add Something To Match Dollars) But I Like The Idea For Both Teams.

  • @caleblaw3497
    @caleblaw3497 Рік тому +1

    I don't think any team is going to give up good values for Wiseman. I am a Warriors fan and I think the best option is accept the mistake in drafting Wiseman, send him to G league and just let him take as much time he needs to develop. We have already won many championships. Winning another one is good but there is no need to panic. Now we need to focus on developing the young guys. If we do not win another championship before Curry retires, that is fine with me. But I do not want my team to suck for another 10-20 years

    • @MaxPotentialGreatness
      @MaxPotentialGreatness Рік тому +3

      F that man. They need to get better somewhere else then because Curry shouldn’t mortgage the rest of his career for some guys who might not even be warriors for life

    • @Daniel-wz3yv
      @Daniel-wz3yv Рік тому

      That's a lot of trust on a guy who may or may not become good enough for the Warriors system, if we need Wiseman to not suck for us to be good for another 10 years then we're screwed lmao.

  • @andrepierrot89
    @andrepierrot89 Рік тому +1

    D.A + Crowder + a couple 2nds for Wiseman and Poole.
    Take it b4 we ask for a 1st in return. 😉

  • @kelleyeidem667
    @kelleyeidem667 Рік тому

    I agree with your assessment as to how bad the bench is playing. There could be a different solution rather than trading away players who could be great later on. I mean why absorb their worst years only to hand them to another team to reap their best years? So here is the solution. The Dubs have a "Death lineup" that could produce insurmountable leads. It features Poole and Curry on the court at the same time, along with Klay and Wiggins. Those guys laid 70 points on the Nuggets in 19 minutes in a playoff game, and ran away from Boston in game six. IOW, the lineup was tested against playoff teams including the best defense in the league.
    So they run up the score with really big margins dispiriting the opposition and tiring them out, too. The opposition is too tired to catch up when the second team is playing and their fatgue allows the second team to score enough points to hang on. Meanwhile the second team gets more and more experience.

  • @_oc_333
    @_oc_333 Рік тому +2

    thank you for this breakdown dude🔥even if it is rocky rn #DUBNATION

  • @MP2408Philly
    @MP2408Philly Рік тому

    Casey at the trade deadline I think their will be the most trades ever in NBA History.

  • @SonicBuckets
    @SonicBuckets Рік тому +1

    I Love Dray i hope he does not get traded and i agree that wiseman show be back in the G League He’s OverRated so trade him jakob is one of the Best Center/Forwards in the Nba Right Now so do it DUBS PLS DUBS

  • @Ben-vp8le
    @Ben-vp8le Рік тому +1

    Wiseman Sucks. Dubs made the biggest mistake not picking Lamelo at no. 2. He’s a waste of a no. 2 lottery pick. It is what it is. I mean what 7 footer gets out rebounded by 6 foot 2 guards consistently….

  • @nightincore7125
    @nightincore7125 Рік тому

    The Warriors NEED to hear this man right now. 😁

  • @napiernygma8075
    @napiernygma8075 Рік тому +3

    gsw losses has nothing to do with wiseman yeah his +/- might be the worst in the league but that's not his fault the whole team defensively just lack chemistry and shot calling and wiseman package never had a good defense to begin with everything in basketball can be achieved in small amount of time with talent and athleticism except for defense it must take experience and time

  • @sidoniomarscalle9828
    @sidoniomarscalle9828 Рік тому +2

    Bro what are you smoking!! No way San Antonio would ever do that deal. That hornets pick is going to be good and Wisemen looks like a bust. Portl is actually really good.

  • @stormyredhawk7419
    @stormyredhawk7419 Рік тому +1

    I hate that we don’t get players like Torrey Craig, Jeff green etc…. Giving Poole star player money, we also missed out on sabonis but Myles is still available and last and not least the warriors can’t pay all of the young guys, they are gonna have too make a trade and I would trade wiseman and kuminga for a really good 6’8 wing who could score and play defense!!

  • @cameronsaintjohn9460
    @cameronsaintjohn9460 Рік тому

    As a warriors fan that trade package from the spurs is a overpay cause of that 2023 Hornets pick

  • @efenili
    @efenili Рік тому

    Yup, bench needs to be worked out desperately and sooner than later. You can't let this stuff keep going for the next 10-15 games.

  • @jesserodriguez1093
    @jesserodriguez1093 Рік тому +1

    Ahhh HELL NAH...Poetl and 2 first rounders for Wiseman..
    Maybe Charlotte's 2023 protected 1st round or the 2025 Bulls top 10 protected pick..but not the Hawks 25 unprotected pick and another 1st rounder. The stats are proving it...the warriors would be bandits if the Spurs make that trade.

  • @JohnJFong
    @JohnJFong Рік тому

    Wiseman seems to play well in an unstructured environment where he can run the floor and be the focal point on offense. The Ws system makes him only one of many options and that makes his motor fail.

  • @djarr03
    @djarr03 Рік тому +1

    This guy speaking facts

    • @djarr03
      @djarr03 Рік тому

      Bring back GPII. Can’t put a price on thats dudes ❤️

  • @Drfresh1402
    @Drfresh1402 Рік тому +2

    GSW need to pay Payton 11 million now.

  • @mndflctzn
    @mndflctzn Рік тому

    I pounded the table for LaMelo but everyone said that was dumb always draft size. What do I know? Except warriors never had a plus big and still won 4 chips. They can find a serviceable big in free agency. IQ and passing make the Dubs go round. LaMelo would have been the better fit IMO.

  • @Mr.Majestic77
    @Mr.Majestic77 Рік тому +1

    Golden State Warriors James Wiseman, Jonathan Kuminga and two 2nd round draft picks to the Atlanta Hawks for John Collins.