All these "women can't play chess" commentators are pathetic. Try to survive one game against her. She's renowned in the world of chess and has beat a vast majority of ex world champions and the current. Don't be sexist for no reason. Women are just as capable as men to become incredible at the sport of chess. Many just don't have the obsession factor that men have, which isn't negative. Men just tend to study one thing obsessively. Or do any one thing obsessively. Here's an article on obsessive behavior and how it affects men in particular: www.huffingtonpost.com/tom-matlack/the-addiction-habit_b_781857.html
+Zachary Gardner "article" - Huffpost... To be fair though, there are other possible factors than obsessive behaviour, like differences in IQ distributions. Basically there are a whole lot of possible reasons with currently almost no way to be sure of how much all of them contribute. For the rest: yeah, sexism sucks. Though there IS a nuance of Polgar being kinda WAY out of other womens' league. It's a fact that women perform worse than men on the population scale at by far most competitive events :/. Just people REALLY don't know how to interpret statistics :(
Just as capable as men? That must be why only 1 of the top 100 highest active rating chess players on Earth is a woman, and that 1 is not even in the top 50, because they're just as capable. Don't be sexist for no reason? How about you stop having faith in the dogmatic premise and your foregone conclusion of tabula rasa for no reason? No one's stopping women, on the contrary, they're given preferential treatment in almost EVERYTHING because there are so many bozos like you who want to see them live up to your fantasy about them being equal or superior. It's just that in chess, both sides start with the same pieces and there's no way to make believe women are being disadvantaged by unseen sexism and justify giving them unfair advantages to ostensibly compensate for them, so the most elite are outperformed 100 to 1 by the most elite men. Just like you'd see in everything else, if the wamans had a level playing field. Why are 10% of engineers women? Because of unfairness toward men. It should be 1%. Why are 5% of fortune 500 CEOs women? Because of unfairness toward men. It should be 1%. When things are FAIR, like they are in chess, the apex men outnumber the apex women 100 to 1.
Whilst it is perfectly possible that men have a genetic predisposition to be better at chess, we certainly can't rule out cultural reasons either. Given that the Polgar sisters chess strength was really just a function of their father's training experiment, one has to ask what would happen if the experiment was repeated millions of times - maybe then you might find some girls who had an even greater natural predisposition than the Polgars to be able to compete in high level chess. who knows? But it may be significant that the one time the experiment was tried it did lead to a female player who was able to compete at or close to the highest level.
Ha oui, MVL n'a pas descendu sa Tour en H8 parce que sinon, Judit aurait descendu sa Tour ( Noire ) aussi.....comme quoi, on est nombreux dans les commentaires qui auraient fait l'erreur, que Maxime n'a , lui, pas faite !
hmrhuang She is retired now and her focus is not primarily on chess: juditpolgar.com/en/node/230. I think she did very well considering, VLM is certainly no slouch.
+hmrhuang Maybe you should challenge her to a game. With your impeccable end game technique you should have no difficulty defeating the greatest female chess player of all time.
Bah, she's over the hill. She peaked 10 years before this and it's all downhill from there. The only one who gained strength even into old age was Bobby Fischer. Even Kasparov is falling off his elite horse, but women intellectually have only less staying power as the years go by.
Ra8+ - Rc8 ... Rg8+ - Re7 (only move) RxR - d1=D ...Rae8+ Rf7 - Rf8 + (protecting f3, and it's 1-0 because you got 4 pawns and 2 towers vs queen and knight, (and probably you got more tricks to take the queen))
IF,IF they were smart in any of these events they would have a camera setup like you see at football games where the camera being overhead is remotely controlled along a wire on the whole field. You could get way better views of the game instead of at 25° angle or so.
Not sure what fallingsnowgirl is talking about lol. Anyway, the clock is wired to provide the actual clock times to the internet audience as all games were translated live.
WurzelAusZwei I don't think I can be any more clear than I was.... These DGT clock+board combos have a computer inside that reads the moves as they are made. The pieces have sensors inside them, as do each square on the board, so when a move is made, it is recorded by the computer and sent to the tournament administrators, the audience, a chess engine for live analysis, and even web sites.
fallingsnowgirl You said there is a "computer" inside the clock that records the moves which is not true. The clock has nothing to do with the translation of moves, it only provides the clock times obviously. Moves can be translated without a wired clock. :)
I don't like Polgar's approach here to the C3 Sicilian. She should have either played d5 right away or d6 instead of e6. Clever of Vachier-LaGrave to avoid Judit's Grivas Sicilian.
I hate feminists, especially those whiny, irrational, unscientific, snivelling liberals consisting of both men and women that preach the anti-male, feminist nonsense. However, I do not hate women and I'm dismayed at the lack of respect shown toward women on this video thread. While I'm of the opinion that men have an innate biological advantage, Judit is a great player and was number 8 in the world at her peak. Women can achieve great heights in chess, it's just going to be very hard for a woman to be world champion due to the biological statistical distributions involving IQ, visuo-spatial advantage, in depth calculation ability etc together with the sheer numbers of men that get into chess relative to women. Respect Judit and save your vitriole for the feminists poisoning our society.
+Indra Blade What a crock of shit! Chess is a mathematical game in essence - gender is irrelevant, especially on said biological basis. And males have the same IQ as females - in fact women are now beginning to pass males in some studies because of their more diligent learning skills. The reason why women have not produced a world chess champ is simple: there aren't anywhere near as many female players as there are males, for the same reason why there are no male knitting champions lol - it's a participation thing. You sound like a typical right winger who's already made his mind up about women regardless of the facts. Men and women are different in a range of areas but mental capacity or abstract thought or logic/mathematical analysis is not one of them.
+Up Whats What are you talking about? Their chest is weaker? What does that have to do with it? As for GMS, they created two classes of GMs because chess is controlled by men lol. There is absolutely no reason why women cannot compete with men if they had the same participation rate - guaranteed. I'll give you an analogy: engineering. They used to believe women would not make good engineers because it was believed women were too impractical, that's not the case anymore as more and more women become engineers.
and Olympic games are made by men too ? That's why there's two classes ? Nobody disputes that women can be engineers or painters or athletes... Marie Curie had 2 Nobel prizes long before you came whinning about this unfair men's world, but you missed the point if you want a strict equality between women and men, you should eventually complain to Nature.
Quan Kiet Hoang she isn’t out of the 100s Hou Yifan is at 88th place. And saintersan, clearly men’s and women’s iq differ, there are more men at the top and bottom and women stack up in the middle. Search “men women iq”
well, fuck yea, she will be better than me, I am not a professional chess player. However, if you compare professional female player to male those are two completely different levels of IQ.
KAL EL What makes you think that she has higher IQ than other 2700+ players??? If that's the case that she has higher IQ then why doesn't she win? She has never been even close (or any other female player) to winning world title.
KAL EL a) Show me a proof that she has IQ 170+ b) Show me a proof that IQ has nothing to do with chess. If u can't show valid evidence for those two points, admit that you are full of shit.
goldewl Kasparovs IQ isnt 190 that was a shitty random test that was accepted by Mensa. After that he went through a real IQ test process and his IQ was found to be 130. Its true that men have higher IQ than women although Polgar does indeed have 170 IQ which is one of the highest in the world.
When MVL moves Be3, the background sound just matches the duration of the move which makes a good harmony. 0:44
+meberic lol.Did not notice that one
Moein Alizadeh fabulous ! 5 years later you made my day 😂
So does Polgar's next Nf6 move. Somehow I missed it :P 0:47
The facial expression on Vachier at the end was "... you should have resigned 10 moves ago."
Exacto, y parecía que iba a ganar Judit Polgar.
I think his facial expression, it was more like "oh I always lost that was tough",
*True*
Chess player's philosophy should be only one: "fight like a man, die like a dog."
in blitz, you never resign.
MVL is a beast.
Langutani Lucas toi t'es un fr ^^
@Ryan DZ toi aussi
That was a close one at the end lol he almost played Rh8 lol
Dear chess.com you should show board corner of the screen ...how can we understand... u want us see their expression or game...
Well done Maxime, Judit is certainly very tricky to beat
so, i get it. the one who extended the hand first for a shake is the loser.
yes it means they resign
Judit is still awesome to me...always.
Why can't all arbiters have robes? That would be awesome.
MVL's hairstyle here is funny 😂 it seems like a wig
I don't think the pop up notification was big enough. It also disappeared so quickly I barely even had time to read it.
I did not enjoy watching, thanks to the rude interruptions by chess.com
+Reginald Borkert Enjoy it buddy;)
Who was the idiot that thought blocking the screen with an add was a good idea?
chess.com, I love you, but please don't overlay the board with your ad :) I can't see the board!!
This can be fixed by going into Settings and turning off annotations.
or by having an ethic when you post a video
All these "women can't play chess" commentators are pathetic. Try to survive one game against her. She's renowned in the world of chess and has beat a vast majority of ex world champions and the current. Don't be sexist for no reason. Women are just as capable as men to become incredible at the sport of chess. Many just don't have the obsession factor that men have, which isn't negative. Men just tend to study one thing obsessively. Or do any one thing obsessively.
Here's an article on obsessive behavior and how it affects men in particular:
www.huffingtonpost.com/tom-matlack/the-addiction-habit_b_781857.html
+Zachary Gardner "article" - Huffpost...
To be fair though, there are other possible factors than obsessive behaviour, like differences in IQ distributions. Basically there are a whole lot of possible reasons with currently almost no way to be sure of how much all of them contribute.
For the rest: yeah, sexism sucks. Though there IS a nuance of Polgar being kinda WAY out of other womens' league. It's a fact that women perform worse than men on the population scale at by far most competitive events :/. Just people REALLY don't know how to interpret statistics :(
Just as capable as men? That must be why only 1 of the top 100 highest active rating chess players on Earth is a woman, and that 1 is not even in the top 50, because they're just as capable. Don't be sexist for no reason? How about you stop having faith in the dogmatic premise and your foregone conclusion of tabula rasa for no reason? No one's stopping women, on the contrary, they're given preferential treatment in almost EVERYTHING because there are so many bozos like you who want to see them live up to your fantasy about them being equal or superior. It's just that in chess, both sides start with the same pieces and there's no way to make believe women are being disadvantaged by unseen sexism and justify giving them unfair advantages to ostensibly compensate for them, so the most elite are outperformed 100 to 1 by the most elite men. Just like you'd see in everything else, if the wamans had a level playing field. Why are 10% of engineers women? Because of unfairness toward men. It should be 1%. Why are 5% of fortune 500 CEOs women? Because of unfairness toward men. It should be 1%. When things are FAIR, like they are in chess, the apex men outnumber the apex women 100 to 1.
Whilst it is perfectly possible that men have a genetic predisposition to be better at chess, we certainly can't rule out cultural reasons either. Given that the Polgar sisters chess strength was really just a function of their father's training experiment, one has to ask what would happen if the experiment was repeated millions of times - maybe then you might find some girls who had an even greater natural predisposition than the Polgars to be able to compete in high level chess. who knows? But it may be significant that the one time the experiment was tried it did lead to a female player who was able to compete at or close to the highest level.
men are stronger and smarter get over it please no need for drama blame biology
He looks like McLovin
ROFLMAOOO
The camera is too away we can't see correctly the game 👎
anyone else notice that vachier lagrave is left handed?
I knew that
No, he's not. Look at 8:38. He is right handed but plays that way just like Aronian
They are both rated 2014 ??
The game was played in 2014. They are both above 2600 for sure I think.
Mas hasil pertandingan ini siapa yang menang sih.?
It's rare to see a heavyweight losing against a featherweight.
+Laurent G. ?? Maxime is no featherweight. He's currently number 7 in the world I think
+MrOhWhatTheHeck You missed the point :-) Don't take it all so seriously... :-)
@@laurentg.2661 Lol
Ha oui, MVL n'a pas descendu sa Tour en H8 parce que sinon, Judit aurait descendu sa Tour ( Noire ) aussi.....comme quoi, on est nombreux dans les commentaires qui auraient fait l'erreur, que Maxime n'a , lui, pas faite !
Judit is beautiful
Polgar needs to work on her end game!
She was pretty much lost in the middle.
hmrhuang She is retired now and her focus is not primarily on chess: juditpolgar.com/en/node/230. I think she did very well considering, VLM is certainly no slouch.
+hmrhuang Maybe you should challenge her to a game. With your impeccable end game technique you should have no difficulty defeating the greatest female chess player of all time.
The key word there is "female."
Bah, she's over the hill. She peaked 10 years before this and it's all downhill from there. The only one who gained strength even into old age was Bobby Fischer. Even Kasparov is falling off his elite horse, but women intellectually have only less staying power as the years go by.
I hope Kasparov, the king of chess, will return
Damn Judit losing her power
nah it's just MVL is 5th best player in the world
Is Rc5 holding instead of Nc7 at the end? Ra8 Rc8 Ra1 Rc1 Ra8 Repeats, and if Rg8 after Rc8 Ke7!
Ra8+ - Rc8 ... Rg8+ - Re7 (only move) RxR - d1=D ...Rae8+ Rf7 - Rf8 + (protecting f3, and it's 1-0 because you got 4 pawns and 2 towers vs queen and knight, (and probably you got more tricks to take the queen))
03:15 can someone explain me that move of the rook ?
He maybe wanted to double rooks which might be why polgar pushed a5
Which polar is it
what opening is she playing?
+Jorky Rodriguez ow ok thank you! Ill look it up. The 2 ...., KnC6 confused me. haha.
IF,IF they were smart in any of these events they would have a camera setup like you see at football games where the camera being overhead is remotely controlled along a wire on the whole field. You could get way better views of the game instead of at 25° angle or so.
Budget?
Can anyone explain why the clock is wired to the board!?
inside the clock is a computer that records all the moves made during the game for the tournament administrators
Not sure what fallingsnowgirl is talking about lol. Anyway, the clock is wired to provide the actual clock times to the internet audience as all games were translated live.
WurzelAusZwei
I don't think I can be any more clear than I was.... These DGT clock+board combos have a computer inside that reads the moves as they are made. The pieces have sensors inside them, as do each square on the board, so when a move is made, it is recorded by the computer and sent to the tournament administrators, the audience, a chess engine for live analysis, and even web sites.
fallingsnowgirl You said there is a "computer" inside the clock that records the moves which is not true. The clock has nothing to do with the translation of moves, it only provides the clock times obviously. Moves can be translated without a wired clock. :)
+WurzelAusZwei then it might be to have a perfect synchro between displayed time and moves in the record... first time I notice that though...
why doesn't he just mate her by moving his rook to top right corner at @8:21 ??
She would move her rook down to block/attack his rook.
Alguém br?
that is blitz should be played...most "grand masters play" 2 boring for my taste....this guy played risky...good 4 him.
I challenge ms pollard to a game of connect four.
I don't like Polgar's approach here to the C3 Sicilian. She should have either played d5 right away or d6 instead of e6.
Clever of Vachier-LaGrave to avoid Judit's Grivas Sicilian.
Zakdayak they are not top 20 players for nothing ^^
The french facial expression is there
Oui. 🇫🇷😎
que buena la partida
Why did she lost ?? I'm a beginner... She surrended ?
+cece92love yes
Why didn't he play Rook h8 ?? It was a checkmate wasn't it '
No it would have been a mistake. Blacks play rook E8 and he was forced to pull back.
She could still get it
Te7 y la dama corona
What routine win...
Mvl is such a spanker. Judit wasn’t a good sport though
Men 💪🏻
I hate feminists, especially those whiny, irrational, unscientific, snivelling liberals consisting of both men and women that preach the anti-male, feminist nonsense.
However, I do not hate women and I'm dismayed at the lack of respect shown toward women on this video thread. While I'm of the opinion that men have an innate biological advantage, Judit is a great player and was number 8 in the world at her peak. Women can achieve great heights in chess, it's just going to be very hard for a woman to be world champion due to the biological statistical distributions involving IQ, visuo-spatial advantage, in depth calculation ability etc together with the sheer numbers of men that get into chess relative to women.
Respect Judit and save your vitriole for the feminists poisoning our society.
+Indra Blade What a crock of shit! Chess is a mathematical game in essence - gender is irrelevant, especially on said biological basis. And males have the same IQ as females - in fact women are now beginning to pass males in some studies because of their more diligent learning skills. The reason why women have not produced a world chess champ is simple: there aren't anywhere near as many female players as there are males, for the same reason why there are no male knitting champions lol - it's a participation thing. You sound like a typical right winger who's already made his mind up about women regardless of the facts. Men and women are different in a range of areas but mental capacity or abstract thought or logic/mathematical analysis is not one of them.
+Up Whats What are you talking about? Their chest is weaker? What does that have to do with it? As for GMS, they created two classes of GMs because chess is controlled by men lol. There is absolutely no reason why women cannot compete with men if they had the same participation rate - guaranteed. I'll give you an analogy: engineering. They used to believe women would not make good engineers because it was believed women were too impractical, that's not the case anymore as more and more women become engineers.
and Olympic games are made by men too ? That's why there's two classes ?
Nobody disputes that women can be engineers or painters or athletes...
Marie Curie had 2 Nobel prizes long before you came whinning about this unfair men's world, but you missed the point if you want a strict equality between women and men, you should eventually complain to Nature.
Indra apparently you didn't see Judit's tedx talk. She's ONE of those feminists poisoning our society. They're not disrespecting her in a vacuum.
Quan Kiet Hoang she isn’t out of the 100s Hou Yifan is at 88th place. And saintersan, clearly men’s and women’s iq differ, there are more men at the top and bottom and women stack up in the middle. Search “men women iq”
She is still attractive.
Ugh.. She's gross
Agreed, she's attractive and intelligent :)
🤮🤢
At the end 8:36 he looked surprised.
Nice try Judit, i still like you =)
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. c3 e6 4. d4 d5
5. exd5 Qxd5 6. Be3 Nf6 7. Be2 cxd4 8. cxd4 Bb4+
9. Nc3 O-O 10. O-O Qa5 11. Qb3 b6 12. Rfd1 Bxc3
13. bxc3 Ba6 14. c4 Qb4 15. Ne5 Qxb3 16. axb3 Bb7
17. Nxc6 Bxc6 18. Ra3 a5 19. d5 exd5 20. Bxb6 Rfe8
21. Bf3 Rac8 22. c5 Ne4 23. Rxa5 Nc3 24. Rda1 f5
25. h4 h6 26. Ra7 d4 27. Bxc6 Rxc6 28. Rd7 Re4
29. g3 h5 30. Rd6 Re6 31. Rd8+ Kh7 32. Kg2 Re4
33. Rd6 Rc8 34. c6 Nb5 35. Rd5 Nc3 36. Rxf5 Rxc6
37. Rxh5+ Kg6 38. Rg5+ Kf6 39. Bd8+ Ke6 40. Rg6+ Kd7
41. Ra7+ Kxd8 42. Rxc6 Nb5 43. Rb7 Re5 44. Rxg7 d3
45. Rh6 d2 46. Ra6 Nc7 47. Rd6+ Kc8 48. Rxd2
It could be a good video.
Terrible play by Judith :-(
at the end the reaction of a virgin with a girl ahah
Judith, if she was skinny, mmmmm
You should see her games in the 90's
Judith main problem is that she is a woman. If it wasn't for that, she would be a very good player.
well, fuck yea, she will be better than me, I am not a professional chess player. However, if you compare professional female player to male those are two completely different levels of IQ.
goldewl Polgar has higher IQ than most 2700+ players btw. IQ =/= chess skill.
KAL EL What makes you think that she has higher IQ than other 2700+ players??? If that's the case that she has higher IQ then why doesn't she win? She has never been even close (or any other female player) to winning world title.
KAL EL
a) Show me a proof that she has IQ 170+
b) Show me a proof that IQ has nothing to do with chess.
If u can't show valid evidence for those two points, admit that you are full of shit.
goldewl
Kasparovs IQ isnt 190 that was a shitty random test that was accepted by Mensa. After that he went through a real IQ test process and his IQ was found to be 130. Its true that men have higher IQ than women although Polgar does indeed have 170 IQ which is one of the highest in the world.
I think Judit is still superior!!!
So she should be in the candidate tournament in place of Lagrave and in the top ten in the world
she never won a world champion why she would be superior? maybe superior for me and you but not the top 100 male
What she doing why there is chess bored for her better to sit in the kitchen