Great review! I avoided AMT pedals for years because of negative reviews, but I regret that decision now. Their pedals are durable and well-designed, lasting for decades without any issues. I recently featured their TH1 (Tube Hall) in a video, and it stood out even with just a few seconds of use. Your review has encouraged me to look for more AMT pedals, especially this one. Wondering how good it could be doing with single coils.
I don't know HOW you got to do this, but I am eternally grateful that you did! At last - the mighty shoot-out we've all (well, I have, anyway!) been waiting for!
Perfect video. The same phrase played over and over, allowing us to hear the differences between the pedals. You even did a single coil version. Thanks for the great video.
Excellent video! Thank you very much for this, I know how much work these videos can be to put together. Much respect. I bought a D2 on Craigslist after watching this video and used it live yesterday... It was nothing short of glorious! I ran it at 12 volts and used the preamp out into my Line6 X3 live (for effects only, no drive) straight into the front of my Peavey Classic 30. Both clean (with the CL boost on) and the distortion were amazing! A lot of people complain about the high-end "fizziness", but I love the texture and "hair" that it adds. It is thick, sizzly, and mean, and backing off the volume on the guitar gives a sweet, light crunch that still retains some of the thickness and texture. If you are on the fence about one of these, do yourself a favor and just buy it. You will not regret it.
Hey! :) Thank you so much for your comment. Just wanted to share an idea: in case you are using the "PREAMP OUT", try the Peavey Classic 30's "EFX. RET." jack rather than the normal "INPUT". Basically, the idea of the D2 (and the rest of LA2 pedals) is to replace the Peavey Classic 30's built-in preamplifier. So, we've got to make sure that the signal (in your case from the X3 Live Multi-Effects Unit) passes by the internal preamp and goes directly to the power amplifier. Let us know, if that improves the sound in any way. There is no problem, if you still would like to use the Classic 30's clean channel (the "INPUT" jack): that's what the D2's "DRIVE OUT" output for :) Thanks again! Have a great day.
Иван Бакастов Hello, Иван! Thanks for the links: it's really more convenient to compare specific pedals by using the time codes instead of randomly clicking on the seek bar. Have a nice day!
So i came for the Soldano S2 and the Mesa R2, but in the end i liked the Engl E2 and the VHT Vt2. They all sound good though. I kinda want to buy them all...
I've got an S2. I can say that the pedal design fits it well, as with the other amps represented from the same tree. The Dumble, Marshall and Orange seem a bit out of place in their tone, not bad, just not as close to what they are emulating. Serious question, does anyone really prefer the Peavey, which was designed as a poor man's Soldano over the Soldano? The S2 is a such a beautiful, yet serious tone.
Maybe it's AMTs cab sim technology ( or lack there of ), but they all seemed quite a bit fizzy. Great demo though! Nice consistent playing... great job!
Hey, Wak! Thanks so much for watching and your thoughts! Yeah, we have used the "CAB. SIM." output with every pedal. So, it seems like the built-in cabinet simulator could benefit from a lower cutoff frequency.
Yep. I can tell you from experience, the cab sim is the weak link in these pedals. I have a C2 in my studio and it sounds killer with various third party IRs.
I agree, the cab sim doesn't do this justice. Hearing these nicely miced up with a nice amp would bring out the tonal differences. My C2 and M2 sound life changingly good through an amp!
At last: a comparison of all LA2s with the same riffs! Great! I've been waiting for somethin like this for a while. The most Demos of the AMT Legend Amps Pedals are by Brett Kingman. These are great vids by themselves, but no good if you want to decide which one is the one for you, because he is frequently playing other stuff. So here my thanks to ToneZone for this great video! Which output did you use? CabSim?
Sturmsaenger Hey, Sturmsaenger! Thank you so much for your comment. That's correct: we used "CAB. SIM." output and went directly into an audio interface. Love Mr. Kingman's videos: always great sound! Thanks for watching!
ToneZone! I have to thank you for making such a great video! The CabSim output sounds pretty good. But I wonder what my E2 will sound with the new Pangaea CP-100 Impulse Response. Still not sure what other LA2 pedal I should get for a strong metal lead/solo sound. My M2 is a little too tame for this job to my taste... M2 seems to be more at home at Classic Rock and Hardrock. I'm still torn between P2 and Vt2... any suggestion?
Sturmsaenger Hey there! How's it goin'? Thank you so much for your support! The new CP-100 Pangaea is designed to play third-party Cabinet + Mic + Ambience Impulse Responses (IRs), but to tweak EQ, volume and reverb settings. There are quite a few free and commercial IRs and IR libraries on the Internet. Thus, you can simply download those libraries, software IR player plugin (check out the keFIR: www.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Audio/Audio-Plugins/keFIR.shtml), play with them and LA2 pedals thru your favorite DAW and see, which IRs suit your taste and style best. Yeah, while M2 is great for Classic Rock type of sound, you will want to be able to add some more gain to get that thick metal lead tones. I would think of P2, R2, S2. Vt2 seems to be a bit mellow for the purpose for me. Hope, you'll find that to be somewhat helpful. Thanks!
ToneZone! Hey ToneZone, why is it that your M2 has much more Gain in the middle position than mine? I put a Fetto overdrive in front of the M2 and are now into Metallica/Megadeth/Slayer-Marshall-territory. But seeing your vid, I get the feeling, that your M2 could get there without a boost. I really like the Marshall-sound for its openness and high mids. What other AMT Pedal would to your opinion be closest to the M2 but with a tap more gain? From your comparison I think the S2 might be very close...
Sturmsaenger Hey, Sturmsaenger! How's it goin'? Thank you so much for your comment. Alright, we haven't heard anything about different revisions neither of the M2, nor of the rest pedals of the LA2 family, so, rest assured, you've got the same pedal as in the video. About the M2's gain setting: I'm thinking about the guitar pickups and its output volume difference, that heavily impacts on when the signal starts clipping. An external overdrive pedal in front of the preamp is very nice to have! I would start with all of the M2's knobs at noon and would try setting the Fetto's Drive control to ~9 o'clock (in order to ensure the Fetto does not distort signal too much), Tone - to 11-12 o'clock and the Volume control - to the setting, where the pedal would be slightly louder when activated. Yeah, we find the S2's tone is somewhat similar to the M2 and would try it, if wanted a wider tone palette than an overdrive pedal + the M2. Hope, this helps. Thanks again and feel free to comment the videos and contact us anytime! Have a great day today!
Разница есть, конечно, но в аппаратах серии LA2 она не особо заметна. Это, конечно, не отменяет того факта, что звучат они хорошо. Просто были у меня одновременно R2 и D2. Я записывал звук через кабсим, импульсы, через CN-1. Разницы практически нету при одних и тех же положениях ручек. Чего, кстати, не скажешь о преампах серии LA1. Вот там действительно разница просто огромная в звучании.
Great video, i've been watching a lot of videos of these pedals and this one is really good. Im still a bit undecided on what i want to get. I love the P2 sound so that will be a definate purchace After that either R2 or E2 or the S2. What would you sujests to accompany the P2? My plan is to use them in conjunction with the Cp-100 for live use
Hey, David! Thank you so much for watching and your comment! The CP-100 Pangaea is a great thing to use live, thanks to its endless possibilities of choosing a guitar cabinet! Besides the CP-100, I would suggest to accompany the P2 with a mid-boost/overdrive pedal (e.g. the Tube Screamer) to run in front of the P2. That would let you cut through the mix on solos and generally tighten up the bass frequencies and thicken up the tone. Hope that will help! Thanks!
Hello, Jose! Thank you so much for your interest! The guitar riff in the demo is from an original song by a Post-Black Metal band from Russia - Deafknife. Unfortunately, the song is not released yet. But we will surely post an update right here in the comments section as soon as the band releases the song (as well as the album and music video). Thanks for watching the demo, Jose! Where we can check out your music?
Hey, Jose! Here is a link to the band's brand new music video: ua-cam.com/video/YX3BFp4EMsQ/v-deo.html Please, let us know if you like the song/music video. Thanks! Have a nice weekend. Denis
Hey, Dani! Thank you so much for your comment! Yes, all of the Legend Amps 2 Series Pedals have an output, specifically designed for use in front of an amp - the "DRIVE" output. However, it should be necessary to mention, that the R2 simulates the Red channel of a Mesa/Boogie Rectifier amp. There is a lot of gain! While you can actually set the pedal's GAIN knob in a low position, chances are it still will be more like a distortion, than gently overdriven sound. So, I would rather recommend to use the R2 in front of a clean amp channel. Dani, what do you think about trying a Tube Screamer type of pedal in front of your amp (dirty channel)? Generally, that would tighten up the bass frequencies and thicken up the tone. Thanks!
Yeah they all sound completely different. I think my favorite was probably the B2, followed closely by the D2 and the C2. But all VERY different sounding.
I am going to say this politely (as you are not). They all ARE the same. The same pcb, some minor differences to emulate clipping and tonestack differences between many amps that in reality they are very similar themselves. In this demonstration, they sound very very alike. Only the O2 and maybe p2 and R2 sound kind of different...now put a krankestein vs a rectifier vs a diezel vh4 through the same cab (as these pedals suppose to do with their cab out). Even with tone controls at 12 o'clock I bet you'd have a world of difference. It's not that AMT didn't get these in the ballpark. But you have to take into account that they have to make money and they used the same "engine" for all of these, this is pretty much confirmed by forums that built pedals and have opened them up and traced the schematic. It's the logical thing to do to mass produce them under the same assembly line isn't it. And it is only their preamp anyway. When you will do that comparison of all those amps different tubes and power sections come into play which, is another electrical system under pressure anyway. AMT does a commendable job however they are far from perfect and in this case cab sim to blame or not, they sound terribly similar and that is the way it is. So it's your ears and mood that need tweaking...
0:16 B2 / Bogner/Hafler Triple Giant
0:32 C2 / CORNFORD
0:48 D2 / Diezel
1:04 E2 / ENGL
1:20 K2 / KRANK
1:36 M2 / Marshall JCM800
1:52 O2 / ORANGE
2:08 P2 / Peavey 5150 / 6505
2:24 R2 / Mesa Boogie Rectifier
2:40 S2 / soldano
2:56 Vt2 / VHT
ENGL PowerBall as far as I know
thanks lmao
凍山 有能ニキあざす、自分はVHTが一番好きだな。
Thank you for this.
Great review! I avoided AMT pedals for years because of negative reviews, but I regret that decision now. Their pedals are durable and well-designed, lasting for decades without any issues. I recently featured their TH1 (Tube Hall) in a video, and it stood out even with just a few seconds of use. Your review has encouraged me to look for more AMT pedals, especially this one. Wondering how good it could be doing with single coils.
I don't know HOW you got to do this, but I am eternally grateful that you did! At last - the mighty shoot-out we've all (well, I have, anyway!) been waiting for!
ZEGO24x
Hey, ZEGO24x!
Thank you for the kind words! Appreciate that so much!
Have a great day!
Wow, the Mesa on the palm mutes, crushing. Nicely done and consistent. Thank you!
exactly what a demo should be, with timestamp references and all. very helpful
Perfect video. The same phrase played over and over, allowing us to hear the differences between the pedals. You even did a single coil version. Thanks for the great video.
Hey, Steven! Thank you so much for your comment! Appreciate that.
Have a nice day!
Excellent video! Thank you very much for this, I know how much work these videos can be to put together. Much respect. I bought a D2 on Craigslist after watching this video and used it live yesterday... It was nothing short of glorious! I ran it at 12 volts and used the preamp out into my Line6 X3 live (for effects only, no drive) straight into the front of my Peavey Classic 30. Both clean (with the CL boost on) and the distortion were amazing! A lot of people complain about the high-end "fizziness", but I love the texture and "hair" that it adds. It is thick, sizzly, and mean, and backing off the volume on the guitar gives a sweet, light crunch that still retains some of the thickness and texture. If you are on the fence about one of these, do yourself a favor and just buy it. You will not regret it.
Hey! :) Thank you so much for your comment.
Just wanted to share an idea: in case you are using the "PREAMP OUT", try the Peavey Classic 30's "EFX. RET." jack rather than the normal "INPUT". Basically, the idea of the D2 (and the rest of LA2 pedals) is to replace the Peavey Classic 30's built-in preamplifier. So, we've got to make sure that the signal (in your case from the X3 Live Multi-Effects Unit) passes by the internal preamp and goes directly to the power amplifier. Let us know, if that improves the sound in any way.
There is no problem, if you still would like to use the Classic 30's clean channel (the "INPUT" jack): that's what the D2's "DRIVE OUT" output for :)
Thanks again! Have a great day.
Thanks for the advice! Have a good one.
0:16 B2
0:32 C2
0:48 D2
1:04 E2
1:20 K2
1:36 M2
2:16 P2
2:48 S2
Great comparison!! I have the e1 and vt2. My favorites r the e2, b2, and vt2
isaac thrash
Hey, Isaac!
Yeah, these are great pedals!
Thank you so much for watching!
0:56 D2
2:16 P2
2:32 R2
3:04 Vt2
Иван Бакастов
Hello, Иван!
Thanks for the links: it's really more convenient to compare specific pedals by using the time codes instead of randomly clicking on the seek bar.
Have a nice day!
2:48 S2
Seriously FINALLY! Thank You
So i came for the Soldano S2 and the Mesa R2, but in the end i liked the Engl E2 and the VHT Vt2.
They all sound good though.
I kinda want to buy them all...
S2 is fantastic preamp. Clear, articulate, musical.
I actually own the E2, it is fantastic ! Works nicely on both humbuckers and P90s. Strongly recommended !
Does it good to use in clean channel amp?
The Vt2 is dope.
I'm amazed...at how they all sound exactly the same. Really, close your eyes and tell me you know when it switches pedals.
I've got an S2. I can say that the pedal design fits it well, as with the other amps represented from the same tree. The Dumble, Marshall and Orange seem a bit out of place in their tone, not bad, just not as close to what they are emulating.
Serious question, does anyone really prefer the Peavey, which was designed as a poor man's Soldano over the Soldano? The S2 is a such a beautiful, yet serious tone.
5150 has much more gain on tap than a regular Soldano.
Maybe it's AMTs cab sim technology ( or lack there of ), but they all seemed quite a bit fizzy.
Great demo though! Nice consistent playing... great job!
Hey, Wak! Thanks so much for watching and your thoughts!
Yeah, we have used the "CAB. SIM." output with every pedal.
So, it seems like the built-in cabinet simulator could benefit from a lower cutoff frequency.
Yep. I can tell you from experience, the cab sim is the weak link in these pedals. I have a C2 in my studio and it sounds killer with various third party IRs.
I agree, the cab sim doesn't do this justice. Hearing these nicely miced up with a nice amp would bring out the tonal differences. My C2 and M2 sound life changingly good through an amp!
good liked R2 ,M2,
Thank you for watching! :) Much appreciated.
At last: a comparison of all LA2s with the same riffs! Great! I've been waiting for somethin like this for a while. The most Demos of the AMT Legend Amps Pedals are by Brett Kingman. These are great vids by themselves, but no good if you want to decide which one is the one for you, because he is frequently playing other stuff.
So here my thanks to ToneZone for this great video!
Which output did you use? CabSim?
Sturmsaenger
Hey, Sturmsaenger!
Thank you so much for your comment.
That's correct: we used "CAB. SIM." output and went directly into an audio interface.
Love Mr. Kingman's videos: always great sound!
Thanks for watching!
ToneZone!
I have to thank you for making such a great video!
The CabSim output sounds pretty good. But I wonder what my E2 will sound with the new Pangaea CP-100 Impulse Response. Still not sure what other LA2 pedal I should get for a strong metal lead/solo sound. My M2 is a little too tame for this job to my taste... M2 seems to be more at home at Classic Rock and Hardrock. I'm still torn between P2 and Vt2... any suggestion?
Sturmsaenger
Hey there! How's it goin'?
Thank you so much for your support!
The new CP-100 Pangaea is designed to play third-party Cabinet + Mic + Ambience Impulse Responses (IRs), but to tweak EQ, volume and reverb settings.
There are quite a few free and commercial IRs and IR libraries on the Internet. Thus, you can simply download those libraries, software IR player plugin (check out the keFIR: www.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Audio/Audio-Plugins/keFIR.shtml), play with them and LA2 pedals thru your favorite DAW and see, which IRs suit your taste and style best.
Yeah, while M2 is great for Classic Rock type of sound, you will want to be able to add some more gain to get that thick metal lead tones. I would think of P2, R2, S2. Vt2 seems to be a bit mellow for the purpose for me.
Hope, you'll find that to be somewhat helpful.
Thanks!
ToneZone!
Hey ToneZone, why is it that your M2 has much more Gain in the middle position than mine? I put a Fetto overdrive in front of the M2 and are now into Metallica/Megadeth/Slayer-Marshall-territory.
But seeing your vid, I get the feeling, that your M2 could get there without a boost. I really like the Marshall-sound for its openness and high mids. What other AMT Pedal would to your opinion be closest to the M2 but with a tap more gain?
From your comparison I think the S2 might be very close...
Sturmsaenger
Hey, Sturmsaenger! How's it goin'?
Thank you so much for your comment.
Alright, we haven't heard anything about different revisions neither of the M2, nor of the rest pedals of the LA2 family, so, rest assured, you've got the same pedal as in the video.
About the M2's gain setting: I'm thinking about the guitar pickups and its output volume difference, that heavily impacts on when the signal starts clipping.
An external overdrive pedal in front of the preamp is very nice to have! I would start with all of the M2's knobs at noon and would try setting the Fetto's Drive control to ~9 o'clock (in order to ensure the Fetto does not distort signal too much), Tone - to 11-12 o'clock and the Volume control - to the setting, where the pedal would be slightly louder when activated.
Yeah, we find the S2's tone is somewhat similar to the M2 and would try it, if wanted a wider tone palette than an overdrive pedal + the M2.
Hope, this helps.
Thanks again and feel free to comment the videos and contact us anytime!
Have a great day today!
Best compare ever
The E2 and C2 do sound like they have the same DNA.
0:56 D2
1:12 E2
1:44 M2
2:16 P2
2:32 R2
2:48 S2
3:04 Vt2
1:52 O2
2:08 P2
2:24 R2
2:40 S2
2:56 Vt2
Thanks fantástico video ;)
1:04 E2
2:08 P2
2:24 R2
I’m hella uncultured but except for the Orange, they all sounded basically the same to me
Thanks, useful video
Мне кажется, или амт для всех педалей использовали один и тот же перегруз, но с разными частотами?
Я вот тоже в сомнениях на эту тему. Не слышу практически никакой разницы. Она просто ничтожна . Или у меня проблема с ушами...
Разница есть, конечно, но в аппаратах серии LA2 она не особо заметна. Это, конечно, не отменяет того факта, что звучат они хорошо. Просто были у меня одновременно R2 и D2. Я записывал звук через кабсим, импульсы, через CN-1. Разницы практически нету при одних и тех же положениях ручек. Чего, кстати, не скажешь о преампах серии LA1. Вот там действительно разница просто огромная в звучании.
@KXSHIN К сожалению мне негде послушать. У нас их нет. Только с рук очень редко...
@KXSHIN
Я не из России, я за границей живу... Тут есть полно всего, но вот АМТ не продается...
i used to have the S1 but sold it later on. Now i'm choosing between the P2 or B2...uggh
Great video, i've been watching a lot of videos of these pedals and this one is really good. Im still a bit undecided on what i want to get. I love the P2 sound so that will be a definate purchace After that either R2 or E2 or the S2. What would you sujests to accompany the P2? My plan is to use them in conjunction with the Cp-100 for live use
Hey, David!
Thank you so much for watching and your comment!
The CP-100 Pangaea is a great thing to use live, thanks to its endless possibilities of choosing a guitar cabinet!
Besides the CP-100, I would suggest to accompany the P2 with a mid-boost/overdrive pedal (e.g. the Tube Screamer) to run in front of the P2. That would let you cut through the mix on solos and generally tighten up the bass frequencies and thicken up the tone.
Hope that will help!
Thanks!
Cool man, thanks for the help, ill let you know how it works out \m/
Что он играет? Кто-нибудь знает из какой это песни?
B2 and E2 for me. Wanted to like the R2 more. K2 and M2... not good.
Hello, what is the name of the song? I like it so much!! Excellent video!!
Hello, Jose! Thank you so much for your interest!
The guitar riff in the demo is from an original song by a Post-Black Metal band from Russia - Deafknife.
Unfortunately, the song is not released yet. But we will surely post an update right here in the comments section as soon as the band releases the song (as well as the album and music video).
Thanks for watching the demo, Jose! Where we can check out your music?
Hey, Jose!
Here is a link to the band's brand new music video: ua-cam.com/video/YX3BFp4EMsQ/v-deo.html
Please, let us know if you like the song/music video.
Thanks! Have a nice weekend.
Denis
I wonder how R2 would do in front of a dirty amp channel... can they be used as traditional overdrives???
Hey, Dani!
Thank you so much for your comment!
Yes, all of the Legend Amps 2 Series Pedals have an output, specifically designed for use in front of an amp - the "DRIVE" output.
However, it should be necessary to mention, that the R2 simulates the Red channel of a Mesa/Boogie Rectifier amp. There is a lot of gain! While you can actually set the pedal's GAIN knob in a low position, chances are it still will be more like a distortion, than gently overdriven sound. So, I would rather recommend to use the R2 in front of a clean amp channel.
Dani, what do you think about trying a Tube Screamer type of pedal in front of your amp (dirty channel)? Generally, that would tighten up the bass frequencies and thicken up the tone.
Thanks!
Thanks for the reply!
Yes, I have in mind get a tube screamer, but like the mesa sound a lot. Sure I'll get both pedals hehe.
Late comment, but a TS into the R2 would sound vicious!
Честный обзор
я один не слышу никакой разницы в звучании педалей?
да
Ага
What's playing a track?
All sound decent but all sound the same
Hey, Colin! Thank you for watching the video and your comment!
Have a nice day!
No, they really don't sound the same. You need to get your ears cleared out buddy.
Lol k31r616 I must do that before the next tour or festival .
Thanks for the advice
Yeah they all sound completely different. I think my favorite was probably the B2, followed closely by the D2 and the C2. But all VERY different sounding.
I am going to say this politely (as you are not). They all ARE the same. The same pcb, some minor differences to emulate clipping and tonestack differences between many amps that in reality they are very similar themselves.
In this demonstration, they sound very very alike. Only the O2 and maybe p2 and R2 sound kind of different...now put a krankestein vs a rectifier vs a diezel vh4 through the same cab (as these pedals suppose to do with their cab out). Even with tone controls at 12 o'clock I bet you'd have a world of difference.
It's not that AMT didn't get these in the ballpark.
But you have to take into account that they have to make money and they used the same "engine" for all of these, this is pretty much confirmed by forums that built pedals and have opened them up and traced the schematic. It's the logical thing to do to mass produce them under the same assembly line isn't it.
And it is only their preamp anyway. When you will do that comparison of all those amps different tubes and power sections come into play which, is another electrical system under pressure anyway.
AMT does a commendable job however they are far from perfect and in this case cab sim to blame or not, they sound terribly similar and that is the way it is.
So it's your ears and mood that need tweaking...
М2 и vt2 астальное звук мыльный
Гейна на приглушке не хватает ужасно
кабинет одинаковый) звук одинаковый
Почти нет различий в звуке.