Idk. It won't have much regulation at 25A anyways. None of the other high power convoy drivers can stay in regulation at the high end. The converter in the 8A buck has way too high a dropout voltage, it can't stop switching and just stay on. On 100% mode it drops out of regulation when the battery is still above 4.1V. The newest 6V 8.25A boost driver uses a converter rated for 40W peak output and 30W sustained. That math doesn't work out. A linear driver won't be able to regulate to 25A for very long. And its not like you're using an sbt90 soda can as a reading light anyways. I mean, it'd be nice if it could regulate 25A well, but I'm not holding my breath. Great video btw
@@jsplasha Thank you. I'm not actually too worried about turbo, only the sustainable output after the stepdown 🙂 that's really the only real benefit on most of these lights. The 800 lumens sustained on this model is the big disappointment.
Convoy just released this with the updated driver! I know its still not going to regulate the full 25a on turbo but hopefully will have slightly better sustained output after thermal throttle. I'm hoping its atleast 1500 lumens sustained for a light of this size.
Essa lanterna é incrível, muito linda é perfeita, seu canal gosto muito o senário onde faz os testes e gravaçães é um lugar incrível, a trilha sonora que você usa em seus vídeos é muito bom. Conheci a marca convoy aqui em seu canal, obrigado.
Hey! could you help me i have a convoy 3x21D. the torch lights up, but the key doesn't work. cannot turn off the light or change the brightness. where could be the problem? also, when I try to charge the flashlight, the light comes on when charging! is it normal??
This is exactly what a customer of mine reported on Monday, are you this person? It'll be a faulty driver board (circuit board), you need to contact the seller for a replacement unit.
Please tell me how to switch the flashlight so that for example there are 3 or 4 modes as a percentage, for example 10% brightness then 40% then 100%????
Here's my M21F manual that I supply to my customers: 8f2a14db-7442-4874-b06a-319c65cbfd15.usrfiles.com/ugd/8f2a14_4dbc90af39674353bb51d470180148ae.pdf . Same operation for this 3X21D.
Been deciding between this and ts30s pro. With anduril you can adjust thermals, but has less throw. With this it’s all pre set but has more throw.. I have lep and I have a gt4 so throw isn’t the biggest deal to me.. but I want one of the 2 to really see what all the hype of sbt is about.. should I got for throw? Or go for longer lumens and a bigger hotspot.. I don’t care about the throttling amount as long as there isn’t a noticeable difference.
I would carry the TS30S Pro the most for its size, so it really depends on what you're buying it for. You could ask Simon to install the 3X18A SBT90.2 driver in the 3X21D for good sustainable output. The 3X21A driver is constant current at 18A instead of 28A FET, so a reduction in both range and output on turbo, but nice sustained output for the full run, it just gets extremely toasty. I doubt this driver is actually hitting 28A when the L21A hits 22A and it's almost the same output. The channel "Richard O" swapped to that driver and he measured 1,600m.
@@PiercingTheDarknessso between the ts30s pro and the 4x18d which do you think is the best wow factor for representing the sbt90.2.? I honestly feel like the bigger hotspot would be more fun than the laser like 4x.. but I’d trust your opinion.. I’m super tired so I have have mixe she 4x 18d with the 3x whatever by convoy.. I’m talking about this light in the video lol
UPDATE: Simon from Convoy has just emailed me to mention he's producing a 25A Constant Current Driver for this 3X21D! That's going to be incredible.
I can see myself trying to find reason to justify getting that constant current version haha..🤤
That´s great! Unfortunately he does not update the flashlights, is up to us to upgrade them, so it´s limited to those who have skills and tools...
@@matheusmf4135 He would be adding an option to the store to choose the 25A CC driver though.
Idk. It won't have much regulation at 25A anyways.
None of the other high power convoy drivers can stay in regulation at the high end. The converter in the 8A buck has way too high a dropout voltage, it can't stop switching and just stay on. On 100% mode it drops out of regulation when the battery is still above 4.1V. The newest 6V 8.25A boost driver uses a converter rated for 40W peak output and 30W sustained. That math doesn't work out. A linear driver won't be able to regulate to 25A for very long.
And its not like you're using an sbt90 soda can as a reading light anyways. I mean, it'd be nice if it could regulate 25A well, but I'm not holding my breath.
Great video btw
@@jsplasha Thank you.
I'm not actually too worried about turbo, only the sustainable output after the stepdown 🙂 that's really the only real benefit on most of these lights. The 800 lumens sustained on this model is the big disappointment.
Convoy just released this with the updated driver! I know its still not going to regulate the full 25a on turbo but hopefully will have slightly better sustained output after thermal throttle. I'm hoping its atleast 1500 lumens sustained for a light of this size.
Essa lanterna é incrível, muito linda é perfeita, seu canal gosto muito o senário onde faz os testes e gravaçães é um lugar incrível, a trilha sonora que você usa em seus vídeos é muito bom. Conheci a marca convoy aqui em seu canal, obrigado.
I'm pleased you enjoy the videos. Thank you 😊
I dont suppose you have any update on the version with a new driver? This light is killed by the measly sustained output when it could be a beast!
Doesn't look like the driver is ready yet. You could always message Simon on the AliExpress store and inquire about it.
Hey! could you help me i have a convoy 3x21D. the torch lights up, but the key doesn't work. cannot turn off the light or change the brightness. where could be the problem? also, when I try to charge the flashlight, the light comes on when charging! is it normal??
This is exactly what a customer of mine reported on Monday, are you this person? It'll be a faulty driver board (circuit board), you need to contact the seller for a replacement unit.
Oukey thanx!👍@@PiercingTheDarkness
0:14 i dont get it how runs double time in warmed mode?
Because it's using a lot less amps, therefore runs for a longer duration. You can see the lumen difference of the two.
Please tell me how to switch the flashlight so that for example there are 3 or 4 modes as a percentage, for example 10% brightness then 40% then 100%????
Here's my M21F manual that I supply to my customers: 8f2a14db-7442-4874-b06a-319c65cbfd15.usrfiles.com/ugd/8f2a14_4dbc90af39674353bb51d470180148ae.pdf . Same operation for this 3X21D.
0:15 and if you dont start from turbo but just from High hollong it keeps the level?
7 minutes. All runtime graphs are provided on the Convoy Store, just follow the AliExpress link in the description.
on Ali i don realy see the runtime/modes list at Convoy only of sofirn and wukrk@@PiercingTheDarkness
Does that light have a double pitch in the reflector!?
I don't know what that means?
I struggle with charts so help me out!
How long did it last on turbo before stepping down?
1 min 20 sec.
I would suggest looking at the graph with my answer, then next time you'll be able to make more sense of the graphs 🙂
Been deciding between this and ts30s pro. With anduril you can adjust thermals, but has less throw. With this it’s all pre set but has more throw.. I have lep and I have a gt4 so throw isn’t the biggest deal to me.. but I want one of the 2 to really see what all the hype of sbt is about.. should I got for throw? Or go for longer lumens and a bigger hotspot.. I don’t care about the throttling amount as long as there isn’t a noticeable difference.
Perhaps instead put your money towards a self sustaining garden / farm. How many flashlights does one truly need? This is me convicting myself. LOL
I would carry the TS30S Pro the most for its size, so it really depends on what you're buying it for. You could ask Simon to install the 3X18A SBT90.2 driver in the 3X21D for good sustainable output. The 3X21A driver is constant current at 18A instead of 28A FET, so a reduction in both range and output on turbo, but nice sustained output for the full run, it just gets extremely toasty. I doubt this driver is actually hitting 28A when the L21A hits 22A and it's almost the same output.
The channel "Richard O" swapped to that driver and he measured 1,600m.
Hey mate, check out my pinned comment.
@@PiercingTheDarknessso between the ts30s pro and the 4x18d which do you think is the best wow factor for representing the sbt90.2.? I honestly feel like the bigger hotspot would be more fun than the laser like 4x.. but I’d trust your opinion.. I’m super tired so I have have mixe she 4x 18d with the 3x whatever by convoy.. I’m talking about this light in the video lol
@@PiercingTheDarknessyeah I can never remember all the definitions and meaning for drivers and stuff and what they do lol.
Yep... that beam is pretty focused, i don't know why Simon changed the led gasket 🤷🤷
It's not the gasket, it's a difference in reflectors.
@@PiercingTheDarkness what changes/differences should I expect? Just bought mine today