Since this hath been brought up quite a bit RE: Rogal Dorn's Death: In the oldest Lore, ONLY his hand was found. Somewhere in 6th or 7th edition, it transformed into that his body had be found and interred in Amber within the Phalanx. And this is on me - the 8th edition lore has RETURNED to the notion that nothing of him was found, so I was going off of some dated info.. which I'm glad because I was annoyed they hadn't changed it, but am now glad that they have haha. SORRY GUYS!!!
@Nat20 Damage the phalanx is the fortress monastery of the imperial fist. I don't see one thousand Space Marine a operating a death star. Maybe if Dorn reunites the successor chapters...
falsehero2001 “you have a castle named “castle” next to it is a village named “village” it’s almost time to collect taxes and it’s nearly harvesting season...”-Rogal Dorne Not gonna lie I really want to play a resource table top game with Adornable.
This man lies, for I am not dead my body was never found nor recovered. I merely watched from afar following my fathers orders. There will be a time when I return but not yet.
Numb Space Wolf taking one too many antidepressants with the strongest alcohol available. “You don’t know what I’ve been through. I’ve done this that even the f*chin’ Ultrasmurfs wouldn’t even consider it a possibility. (Stumbling as he try’s to stand) My baby cousins don’t know what hell is and hopefully they won’t ever know.
Just know that without this guy the Imperium would have been lost. By the strategic genius of this man a mere 3 legions (Of which 2 were greatly thinned out by the conflicts) backed up by the Custodes and other forces on Terra were able to hold out for months against ALL the traitor legions with their own titan,daemon and other backup. Granted, the ferocity of the blood angels, the tactical precision of the Kahn and the sheer prowess of the Custodes were of immense importance as well. Just imagine what could have been achieved if a single other legion was present, or a bit quicker to reinforce the battle on Terra. The traitors would have suffered way more losses.
The Phalanx uses such amazing technology that it's transformed from a giant asteroid station, to a triangle thing with each side having the firepower of a battle-barge, to a giant golden eagle, and back to a giant asteroid, all in the space of one series.
I just discovered this channel today, and I subbed solely for the line "Crushing Natty Light in the back of Leman Russ' Thunderhawk". Looking forward to more content.
For DORN !! I'm very glad to see this video made and available. We need all the information about Rogal Dorn and Imperial Fist and Company i.e. Black Templars 😎
Wolf Lord Rho covered 2 story segments with Dorn and Alpharius. The second one you cover and that is the fight between Dorn and Alpharius. What Wolf Lord Rho also covers in that fight is how Alpharius trys to talk to Dorn about his plan to beat the bad guys, and Dorn just says "Fire" to his men with out wasting time listening to Alpharius's duplicitous talk. I loved the bad ass nature with which Dorn takes down Alpharius. Before that there is a scene where Dorn meets Alpharius, in Alpharius own throne room. Alpharius does his thing and Dorn sees through his deception the whole time. Alpharius also thinks that non of the other primarchs seem to understand how good he and his legion are at what they do and how good their tactics are. Dorn leaves Alpharius by telling him he fully understands his tactics and corrects him on how he could have done his last strategy much better both in scope and in timing. These things show Dorn has an amazing mind. Not just for Defense but overall. With the phalanx it shows he understands mechanics better then most of the other primarch. I get the impression Dorn gets little credit for how good he was because he was stuck at home and did not spend much time making friends with the other primarchs. He also was not egotistical. The Emperor keeping Dorn on Defense was not because Dorn was so good at defense comparative to other tactics. It was because Dorn was one of the greatest overall minds of the primarchs. With no ego, the Emperor didn't have to worry about Dorn pouting in a corner of the palace because he didn't get to play soldier in the galaxy like his brothers. Dorn was held in reserve as a powerful trump card for the inevitable fall, the Emperor knew was sure to come but did not now the details too.
I think you got Dorn's fate backwards dude. The Dorn being MIA end is the more current canon lore iirc, plus the Black Templars engaged the 1st Black Crusade alone, it's where Sigismund finally dies fighting Abbazabba.
Corax or the Khan for me. Jaghatai has by far some of the best moments in 30k both combat wise and character wise. Though that might just be because Chris Wraight is his writer.
Rogal Dorn would be proud to see this video sparty. As a son of Dorn I am grateful to see this and thank you for the time you have spent to get this video out into the world. Dorn isn't dead for his ideals and sons live on, he will die when the Imperium falls and the last son of Dorn takes his final breath and dies. As always thanks for the video and the awesome lore you preach. Hope your day is going well and to anyone reading this. :)
"So what weapons does he have?" Player 1 "A giant chainsword..." Player 2 "Sounds a bit meh...what does he do?" Player 1 "He is basically a great General..." player 2 "He sounds a bit shit to be honest, I'll take Leman Russ" :(
Ahh, finally some talk about Dorn, The most stubborn badass in the Galaxy. Thanks for another video, mate! P.S. Even tho I believe "loyalty" is a word that defines more Russ, then Dorn =p
How is Russ loyal, when he got tricked into destroying Prospero, instead of doing what Big E told him? Listening to Horus instead of Big E. Space Wolves are traitors. Fighting the Inq is just another traitorious act. .....wearing a daemon axe is another. F*** the furries.
De Wey Of da Deval I think you are wrong, my brother is inept at defence. This man Martin is right I am the best Primarch now that most of our family is gone.
I'm very new to the Warhammer 40k lore and I really into it! Amazing story telling. IMO, for those manga/anime enthusiasts, Rogal Dorn remind me of Raoh from Hokuto No Ken.
Really awesome video, man! Sorry it took me this long to comment here- I like to watch a video a few times before I say if I like or dislike it. This one was certainly no disappointment! Dorn is one of the Primarchs I know the least about, and you brought parts of his story that I’d never heard before, so thank you- not only was I laughing like I usually do with your vids, but I learned some new shit, too. And on a different note, did you get the email I sent? It’s the first email I’ve sent in a few years (no shit, I’m a bit of a technophobe neo-Luddite!) and I’m not positive that I sent it to the right address). Anyway- great video, brother! Keep ‘em coming! Edit- I’m throwing in my vote in favor of you making a video on Sigismund and the events leading to the formation of the Black Templars- sounds interesting-
Mark!!! I did, did you get my response?! :D Yeah I totally agree with you dude. Dorn is probably one of the lower points in my 40k knowledge across the table. But he has such a good and interesting Lore that it's a shame he's been so minor up until the Horus heresy series. I'm definitely going to do the Sigismund video. People need to hear of the Sigi and it shall happen! :) As always, Thanks a ton for watching and your comments dude. I always seek em out
Can't wait to see your take on Rowboat Girlyman, if it is anything like your Russ vid ¨Wolf, Wolf and more wolf¨ I am expecting alot of Ultra smurfing, love your work man.
hehehe it might be pretty far down the lien since he's such a growing portion of the current lore, and I'd want to capture all of the majesty of his pre and post heresy life. Which will be interesting since he keeps evolving!! :D
You got it backwards in the older lore Rogal Dorn was found dead and his body was recovered. In the new lore they only found one of his fists. In the 8th edition codex it is written "Rogal Dorn is believed to have died whilst fighting a Chaos fleet, and was last reported storming the battleship sword of sacrilege. When the Imperial Fists defeated the Chaos fleet, the only trace of their Primarch uncovered by their searches was a single fist. Excerpt from Codex Adeptus Astartes 8th edition, the hand of Dorn. While this does not mean that Dorn is alive his body is never dicovered. Since the Codex contains the canon lore and therefore the newest lore he may still be alive.
that's actually only in one story - that his body is interred in amber within the Phalanx. In the older Index Astartes, his body was never found. I can screenshot the excerpt if you would like :) I have my 8th edition SM book, I'll go look into that!!
Please, do that video on Sigismund. I only know that he did something that angered Dorn beyond reason, but I would like to know what he did, exactly to piss off Dorn so much.
Oh, by the way! There's not much ever to be told about what happens to mechanicus during Horus Heresy, can you please make a video on that one? I think this would be extremely interesting considering what role it played in the future, and that people don't really talk about it like...Ever
@@italianspartacus it's about for ou to decide, I guess, haha. I would be happy anyway. But, I guess telling what happened to them specifically during HH might get us a better picture of HH as a whole, especially now, when the Siege of Terra is about to begin. Yet again, I'll be happy in any case, so it's up for you to decide)
There's a Mechanicus guy that shows up in Master of Mankind. He gives you an interesting look at what's happening for them. Master of Mankind also features a Custodes character fairly front and center as well as a glimpse into the Emperor('s mind) more directly than some of the other Heresy era books too
Didn't Rogal Dorn repeatedly mount the greatest and stoic defense, multiple times against Horus and the chaos gods? Did he not stand alone, as primarch against impossible odds? Not once, or twice but hundreds of times? Did not, the mighty primarch save Terra? I'm at a loss, then... the beginning of this video has me baffled!!!
Imagine Dorn being the next Primarch to return. Dorn and Gullimen together again? He would definetly take a lot of pressure off of Gullimen to focus on the bureaucray of The Imperium while Dorn leads the Military as a whole.
I don't remember where I have read it, so please don't take my word for 100%, but I THINK that it was once noted that the Imperial fists we're THE most effective/efficient legion, only Matt Ward's writing about the Ultramarines changed this. They did their missions with the least casualties ect. Fun fact: before Ultramarines, the posterboy Space Marines, we're the freaking BLACK TEMPLARS (as seen even on the cover of the rulebook in 3rd* edition), which are the successors of the Imperial fists. edit: changed it from 4th edition to 3rd, my bad.
Rogale dorn's best story might be between solar war & his definite dissapearance. His stoic facade breaks, sigismund has detiariate relationship with him. He has his father's order to rebuild the empire, but to what end? What lesson rogale learns during the twillight time of primarchs?
"Behind the scenes" feel? That must be why a lot of the other first founding chapters get upgrade sprues, non-Forge World embossed shoulder pads, etc, while Dorn's bois get left out, even though there's TWO fairly popular chapters that use fist stuff (including my Crimson bois). And don't bring up Black Templars. They will always be Sigusmund's bois to me.
There are two times in this vid where you accidentally repeat yourself. Once with the imperial stoner shade eagle and once right at the very end. Freaking great though. Yes I would also really enjoy a black templars and crimson fists video!
Lol I was just wondering when the next Primarch video was gonna come out. Will there be a video on a battle report 40k on the ShadowSpear. I remember you were discussing about it before on one of your videos.
GW made the novel in which his whole body was found as non-canon. One of the few times they would retcon a book. The official canon is that only his hand was found.
7:40 out of all of The Primarchs only Russ Sanguíneus Dorne Magnes (doesn’t count you know why) Rowboat Girlyman Vulken Manus Were the only Primarchs who successfully merged the two aspects of their legions, but some better than most.
As far as I am concerned, Dorn is alive in stasis somewhere only the chapter master of the Black Templars knows. He can only be recalled under specific circumstances. And, yes his arm was cutoff, and now he has this badass cybernetic powerfist that has a combi-plasma gun/melta gun built into it, the Dornfist. As Resident of the Internet Either, I declare this valid and canon!
Where does it say that horus looks up to guilliman. In rise of horus, it talks about how horus doesnt like guilliman because guilliman is jealous and such. I think horus looked up to saguinius more so. Horus goes out of his way to talk about the compitance and loyalty of sanguinus, dorn, and fulgrim rather than kahn and guilliman
Dorn is actually In my opinion best writen primarch. When other primarchs you basically get their ideas on 1-2 books but with Dorn you actually have to read maaaaany books before everything just clicks and turns out Dorn was One of the emperors keys to get where we are now
Only one problem I can see other than the body thing that was pointed out. Necromunda was a fight against daemons not greenskins. Great video though! :)
nay sire! Necromunda was indeed held by the greenskins. There are very few instances of daemon incursions during the Great Crusade because of the denial of their existence via the Secular Truth. The books talk pretty firmly about how that Truth reduces their power in the "corporeal" realm. We only barely start to see moments of it at the very beginning of the HH, but that's already 100 or 200 years into the Crusade. thank you so much for watching though! :D sorry if that came off dickish, just didn't want you to think i get bogus info and go, "YUP!!! LOOKS GOOD!" hahahah
Doesn't Vulkan tell Koorland (Slaughter) that he would tell Dorn how well they did during The War of the Beast? And I'm pretty sure that takes place after Dorn disappears cause that's when Koorland enacts the Last Wall protocol.
*the only legon that came close to horuses accomplishments were the imperial first* wrong wrong wrong. the dark angels had far more accomplishments under there belts though a lot of the records were kept hidden, lion el johnson had the best battle record in the imperium after horus and that's with him being found in the second half of the primarks. actually what did dorn even think of the lion, never hear about those two interacting.
So.. I had heard the same thing.. And I'm wondering which one is hyperbole now. I tried to fact check this as much as possible because BOTH entries say this. Do you have any resources you can provide?? It's super irritating because I try to make these accurate :( As for Lion and Dorn, I also have like... Zero interaction between the two. It might be in the more recent stuff to come out with a conversation between Dorn and Sanguinius maybe? Dorn asking why the Lion didn't join them maybe, then his feelings are revealed?
@@italianspartacus well i looked around for quite some time, but was unable to find the direct point were it was said, (to many books to look though) but on the dark angels page wikipidia under dawn of the imperium and the great crusade sub point it says under lion el johnson leadership the dark angels calmed more victories then any other besides the luner wolves"
To be fair perturabo was given the most difficult and grueling of crusades. Something none of the other primarchs would have succeeded in. Out of sheer stubbornness yes.
Correct me if I’m wrong but was it not that Dorns pain glove was a real actual gauntlet he could wear, and that what was described was the ‘pain glove ‘ used by the Astartes after dorn ‘died’. Anyway great video thank you sparty ps defo do a sigismund video
The Eisenstein did not come out of the warp in front of the Phalanx. It came out half dead, and had to jettison it's warp core for detonation out of desperation. It was that detonation that guided Dorn out of the warp.
You're not wrong, but from a narrative stance I chose to omit that. There's only so many details I can include before I lose someone. And I'm trying to do these from the perspective of someone who has little understanding of the existing Lore :)
I couldn't imagine the lion and dorn liking each other too much. I dont think i could even see them working together too well either......... pre heresy of course, the dark angels work with no one post heresy lol.
Since this hath been brought up quite a bit RE: Rogal Dorn's Death:
In the oldest Lore, ONLY his hand was found. Somewhere in 6th or 7th edition, it transformed into that his body had be found and interred in Amber within the Phalanx. And this is on me - the 8th edition lore has RETURNED to the notion that nothing of him was found, so I was going off of some dated info.. which I'm glad because I was annoyed they hadn't changed it, but am now glad that they have haha. SORRY GUYS!!!
So alive?
I can't see a chapter operating the phalanx at its full potential. Maybe at Dorn's return it will change.
@Nat20 Damage the phalanx is the fortress monastery of the imperial fist. I don't see one thousand Space Marine a operating a death star. Maybe if Dorn reunites the successor chapters...
Fake news. The fist lives and continues to extinguish amy and all who oppose the Emperors righteous will
As of the 32nd Millenium at least Vulkan confirmed Dorn was alive. I reckon he’ll be coming back in 8th.
"Once upon a time, I was me." -Rogal Dorn
falsehero2001 “you have a castle named “castle” next to it is a village named “village” it’s almost time to collect taxes and it’s nearly harvesting season...”-Rogal Dorne
Not gonna lie I really want to play a resource table top game with Adornable.
"This is true."
Idk why this is so perfect.
"Father, your 'sweetheart' was I. Rogal Dorn!"
You are not kitten.
All hail Lord Adorable
"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHGH"!!!
English learn it
@@andrewjackson2011 It's a quote.
This man lies, for I am not dead my body was never found nor recovered. I merely watched from afar following my fathers orders. There will be a time when I return but not yet.
do you have an instagram called like.. RogalDorn07 ??
ItalianSpartacus haha No. I don’t use insta sadly.
Sir would you like me to fortify this position?
Your son's carry your name with pride! May the Lord Emporer have pity on the enemies of Terra once they face The Last Wall!
I was there when Tzeentch changed the timeline for you.
I liked the amber skeleton myself.
“The only legion to come close to the accomplishments of Horus, was the imperials fists.”
Dark angels “Am I a joke to you?”
Hahahaha great point
Rangdan Xenocides screwed that up for the Dark Angels (and maybe the two missing), unfortunately.
Numb
Space Wolf taking one too many antidepressants with the strongest alcohol available. “You don’t know what I’ve been through. I’ve done this that even the f*chin’ Ultrasmurfs wouldn’t even consider it a possibility. (Stumbling as he try’s to stand) My baby cousins don’t know what hell is and hopefully they won’t ever know.
We as the sons of the most tighly ass clenched primarch, approve of this video. Obviously.
Keep those cheeks clenched. Don't want to give those Orks an opening. I mean, again.
@@zanmaru139 DORNIAN HARD STARE AND OPPRESSIVE SILENCE
The cheeks are clenched so no heresy gets in!
For the great Lord Adorable! I think that picture with Dorn and Sanguinius is probably one of my favorites of all the art of 40k
You noticed Leman, Jaghatai, and Malcador are in there too, right? It’s a fantastic picture-
Mark Brigandi I see Rowboat, Lion and Jaghatai but no Leman
we all know Rogal is running around the palace in centurion armor come on now XD\
"you'll never catch me!"
Tts?
*Angry Perturabo noises*
Thank you magic pain glove !
@Lewd COFFEE IS SATAN CREATION
I see you are a man of culture
Slaanesh: Glad you like it
Your services are no longer required
Just know that without this guy the Imperium would have been lost. By the strategic genius of this man a mere 3 legions (Of which 2 were greatly thinned out by the conflicts) backed up by the Custodes and other forces on Terra were able to hold out for months against ALL the traitor legions with their own titan,daemon and other backup. Granted, the ferocity of the blood angels, the tactical precision of the Kahn and the sheer prowess of the Custodes were of immense importance as well. Just imagine what could have been achieved if a single other legion was present, or a bit quicker to reinforce the battle on Terra. The traitors would have suffered way more losses.
The Phalanx uses such amazing technology that it's transformed from a giant asteroid station, to a triangle thing with each side having the firepower of a battle-barge, to a giant golden eagle, and back to a giant asteroid, all in the space of one series.
It is known that he ears 3 bowls of lemon a day because its a mighty fruit
"Yay, Bike" - Rogal Dorn
I just discovered this channel today, and I subbed solely for the line "Crushing Natty Light in the back of Leman Russ' Thunderhawk".
Looking forward to more content.
Hahahahah thanks so much man. Welcome to the family
For DORN !! I'm very glad to see this video made and available. We need all the information about Rogal Dorn and Imperial Fist and Company i.e. Black Templars 😎
Finally some more of that sweet 40k nectar!
"Florida level ice storms," I didn't realise Florida was that cold and icy.
lolroflroflcakes I believe he was referring to how batshit crazy Florida is
Wolf Lord Rho covered 2 story segments with Dorn and Alpharius. The second one you cover and that is the fight between Dorn and Alpharius. What Wolf Lord Rho also covers in that fight is how Alpharius trys to talk to Dorn about his plan to beat the bad guys, and Dorn just says "Fire" to his men with out wasting time listening to Alpharius's duplicitous talk. I loved the bad ass nature with which Dorn takes down Alpharius. Before that there is a scene where Dorn meets Alpharius, in Alpharius own throne room. Alpharius does his thing and Dorn sees through his deception the whole time. Alpharius also thinks that non of the other primarchs seem to understand how good he and his legion are at what they do and how good their tactics are. Dorn leaves Alpharius by telling him he fully understands his tactics and corrects him on how he could have done his last strategy much better both in scope and in timing. These things show Dorn has an amazing mind. Not just for Defense but overall. With the phalanx it shows he understands mechanics better then most of the other primarch. I get the impression Dorn gets little credit for how good he was because he was stuck at home and did not spend much time making friends with the other primarchs. He also was not egotistical. The Emperor keeping Dorn on Defense was not because Dorn was so good at defense comparative to other tactics. It was because Dorn was one of the greatest overall minds of the primarchs. With no ego, the Emperor didn't have to worry about Dorn pouting in a corner of the palace because he didn't get to play soldier in the galaxy like his brothers. Dorn was held in reserve as a powerful trump card for the inevitable fall, the Emperor knew was sure to come but did not now the details too.
Dude, just read the books.
“The Lemon is a mighty fruit” -Rogal Dorn, c. M41
Another fine video, you have my thanks.
YOU HAVE MY MUSTACHE!
ItalianSpartacus This man is an imposter... Alpharious at work I bet.
Rogal Dorn
No, I am you but better. For the front and flanks of my face are fortified by terrific facial hair. Fortifications you lack.
Fortified Dorn Hair is not fortifications. You must get more ceramite and plasteel.
I sense a group of impostors
Nobody
Rogal Dorn: No
I need to get a soundboard of 40K stuff. This would be on it.
I think you got Dorn's fate backwards dude. The Dorn being MIA end is the more current canon lore iirc, plus the Black Templars engaged the 1st Black Crusade alone, it's where Sigismund finally dies fighting Abbazabba.
Abbazabba, you my only friend
Great as always. Please Corvus Corax, Perturabo or the Nighthaunter next.
Corax or the Khan for me. Jaghatai has by far some of the best moments in 30k both combat wise and character wise. Though that might just be because Chris Wraight is his writer.
Rogal Dorn would be proud to see this video sparty. As a son of Dorn I am grateful to see this and thank you for the time you have spent to get this video out into the world. Dorn isn't dead for his ideals and sons live on, he will die when the Imperium falls and the last son of Dorn takes his final breath and dies. As always thanks for the video and the awesome lore you preach. Hope your day is going well and to anyone reading this. :)
"So what weapons does he have?" Player 1
"A giant chainsword..." Player 2
"Sounds a bit meh...what does he do?" Player 1
"He is basically a great General..." player 2
"He sounds a bit shit to be honest, I'll take Leman Russ" :(
Ahhhh the little Centuribear !!!
No
UA-cam: Recommend for you
Me: Damn right it is!
HHELL YEAH!
You can't tease me with my Templars like that. Can't wait for you to drop that video
Came here to watch a video about Papa Dorn and like, and I'm all outta video..
Ahh, finally some talk about Dorn, The most stubborn badass in the Galaxy. Thanks for another video, mate!
P.S. Even tho I believe "loyalty" is a word that defines more Russ, then Dorn =p
Might be different types of loyalty. Russ is more the rabid and rash loyalty. While Dorn is more of a stoic and calm loyalty
Ah, the taco heresy rears it ugly head
How is Russ loyal, when he got tricked into destroying Prospero, instead of doing what Big E told him? Listening to Horus instead of Big E.
Space Wolves are traitors.
Fighting the Inq is just another traitorious act.
.....wearing a daemon axe is another.
F*** the furries.
You made my whole week with this Spartacus :D
The best Primarch of them all!!!
Martin Laird I think you mean Leman Russ lmao
De Wey Of da Deval I think you are wrong, my brother is inept at defence. This man Martin is right I am the best Primarch now that most of our family is gone.
@@rogaldorn3643 but daddy guilliman is back
The greatest of them all
I gotta rep the Khan if we're talking about best Primarch's.
That's not vulkan
Sweet sweet Primarch lore. These types of videos is what I crave! Can't wait for the next addition to the Primarch series.
Beautiful and educational as always. Your videos are the best.
"The Imperial Truth" - My how the Imperium has fallen.
I'm very new to the Warhammer 40k lore and I really into it! Amazing story telling. IMO, for those manga/anime enthusiasts, Rogal Dorn remind me of Raoh from Hokuto No Ken.
Awesome to hear man, welcome to your new addiction :) If you have any questions, please let me know!
"No"
~ Rogal Dorn
Wait, didn't he kill you that one time or did he kill your brothee omegon
Going to hold you to that promise about the melee between Dorn and Curze. Looking forward to it.
Perturabo: Come and FIST ME, ROGAL!!!!!
Rogal Dorn: YEEEEEEEESSSSS!
Do not apologize Brother. The tale of the Primarch-Primogenitor is one that must be heeded and dedicated time to!
Really awesome video, man! Sorry it took me this long to comment here- I like to watch a video a few times before I say if I like or dislike it. This one was certainly no disappointment! Dorn is one of the Primarchs I know the least about, and you brought parts of his story that I’d never heard before, so thank you- not only was I laughing like I usually do with your vids, but I learned some new shit, too. And on a different note, did you get the email I sent? It’s the first email I’ve sent in a few years (no shit, I’m a bit of a technophobe neo-Luddite!) and I’m not positive that I sent it to the right address). Anyway- great video, brother! Keep ‘em coming! Edit- I’m throwing in my vote in favor of you making a video on Sigismund and the events leading to the formation of the Black Templars- sounds interesting-
Mark!!!
I did, did you get my response?! :D
Yeah I totally agree with you dude. Dorn is probably one of the lower points in my 40k knowledge across the table. But he has such a good and interesting Lore that it's a shame he's been so minor up until the Horus heresy series.
I'm definitely going to do the Sigismund video. People need to hear of the Sigi and it shall happen! :)
As always, Thanks a ton for watching and your comments dude. I always seek em out
What would win a unmovable object or an unstoppable force
Or an imperial knight veteran vs an imperial fist knight
Rogal Dorn isn't dead. He came back as the Prince of Dorne in the GoT finale
HAHAHAHAH
Can't wait to see your take on Rowboat Girlyman, if it is anything like your Russ vid ¨Wolf, Wolf and more wolf¨ I am expecting alot of Ultra smurfing, love your work man.
hehehe it might be pretty far down the lien since he's such a growing portion of the current lore, and I'd want to capture all of the majesty of his pre and post heresy life. Which will be interesting since he keeps evolving!! :D
Need that sigismund and templar video
Sigismund, and the Rise of the Black Templars. That shall be its name!
Can't wait to get my hands on the book Horus Heresey: Solar War. We finally touch down on Terra and the bulwarks of the Praetorian of Terra.
All these have been great but have say this was the best so far
i really felt the same :)
You got it backwards in the older lore Rogal Dorn was found dead and his body was recovered. In the new lore they only found one of his fists. In the 8th edition codex it is written "Rogal Dorn is believed to have died whilst fighting a Chaos fleet, and was last reported storming the battleship sword of sacrilege. When the Imperial Fists defeated the Chaos fleet, the only trace of their Primarch uncovered by their searches was a single fist. Excerpt from Codex Adeptus Astartes 8th edition, the hand of Dorn. While this does not mean that Dorn is alive his body is never dicovered. Since the Codex contains the canon lore and therefore the newest lore he may still be alive.
that's actually only in one story - that his body is interred in amber within the Phalanx. In the older Index Astartes, his body was never found. I can screenshot the excerpt if you would like :)
I have my 8th edition SM book, I'll go look into that!!
Rogal Dorn "The Man of Stone" Victorus aut Mortis! Seventh Primarch!
Daimon X Hey, you can’t steal the Raven Guard battle cry just because you don’t have a good one! Don’t fuck with the XIXth!
Dorn is the best Primarch.
"Florida-level ice storms"? Lol, I'll have to remember that one. ;)
Please, do that video on Sigismund. I only know that he did something that angered Dorn beyond reason, but I would like to know what he did, exactly to piss off Dorn so much.
IT SHALL BE SO!
Oh, by the way! There's not much ever to be told about what happens to mechanicus during Horus Heresy, can you please make a video on that one? I think this would be extremely interesting considering what role it played in the future, and that people don't really talk about it like...Ever
sure so you want one of the dark mechanicus as a whole? specifically the schism during the HH, or what would the overall focus be? :)
@@italianspartacus it's about for ou to decide, I guess, haha. I would be happy anyway. But, I guess telling what happened to them specifically during HH might get us a better picture of HH as a whole, especially now, when the Siege of Terra is about to begin. Yet again, I'll be happy in any case, so it's up for you to decide)
@@mrrey3481 check out Luetins Vid about the mechanicum if you are interested. 1hour + and goes pretty good into detail, history and heresy.
There's a Mechanicus guy that shows up in Master of Mankind. He gives you an interesting look at what's happening for them. Master of Mankind also features a Custodes character fairly front and center as well as a glimpse into the Emperor('s mind) more directly than some of the other Heresy era books too
Rogal Dorn was the true holy heir to the Emperor of Man, earned through ability and merit alone.
Yes. It is I, ROGAL DORN.
Didn't Rogal Dorn repeatedly mount the greatest and stoic defense, multiple times against Horus and the chaos gods? Did he not stand alone, as primarch against impossible odds? Not once, or twice but hundreds of times? Did not, the mighty primarch save Terra? I'm at a loss, then... the beginning of this video has me baffled!!!
Imagine Dorn being the next Primarch to return. Dorn and Gullimen together again? He would definetly take a lot of pressure off of Gullimen to focus on the bureaucray of The Imperium while Dorn leads the Military as a whole.
That would be glorious brother
*Magical pain glove*
New to this lore, seems like it would make a crazy rated R animated series
Looks like someone broke out the ol thesaurus. Who drops Zeitgeist casually in a sentence anymore haha
hahah i took latin for 5 years, i have a funky vocab
@@italianspartacus long as you're not pulling words out of your ass to sound smart, that'd be really mitochondria.
it's the power house of the cell, ya know
@@italianspartacus yea.. Was trying to pull off will Ferrell snl sketch as Ron burgundy. Doesn't have the same gravitas over text
Nobody:
Rogal Dorn: "I need to fortify this secure building."
So who's next, Guilliman or Perturabo?
Perturabo I hope because I don't know a lot about him
Perturabo of course, just to annoy him of been yet again only considered after Dorn.
I don't remember where I have read it, so please don't take my word for 100%,
but I THINK that it was once noted that the Imperial fists we're THE most effective/efficient legion, only Matt Ward's writing about the Ultramarines changed this. They did their missions with the least casualties ect.
Fun fact: before Ultramarines, the posterboy Space Marines, we're the freaking BLACK TEMPLARS (as seen even on the cover of the rulebook in 3rd* edition), which are the successors of the Imperial fists.
edit: changed it from 4th edition to 3rd, my bad.
Rogale dorn's best story might be between solar war & his definite dissapearance.
His stoic facade breaks, sigismund has detiariate relationship with him. He has his father's order to rebuild the empire, but to what end?
What lesson rogale learns during the twillight time of primarchs?
"Behind the scenes" feel? That must be why a lot of the other first founding chapters get upgrade sprues, non-Forge World embossed shoulder pads, etc, while Dorn's bois get left out, even though there's TWO fairly popular chapters that use fist stuff (including my Crimson bois). And don't bring up Black Templars. They will always be Sigusmund's bois to me.
There are two times in this vid where you accidentally repeat yourself. Once with the imperial stoner shade eagle and once right at the very end. Freaking great though. Yes I would also really enjoy a black templars and crimson fists video!
Crushing NattyLlight in the back of Leman Russ's Thunderhawk... ROFLMFAO!!!
did i say that!?? hahahahahah
I hope our nightly cuddling sessions will not be rescheduled because of this.
10:35 too soon dude, way too soon. Some of us have not gone over it yet.
i will always be there for you
Crushing Natty Lite in the back of thunderhawk hahaaa
Lol I was just wondering when the next Primarch video was gonna come out. Will there be a video on a battle report 40k on the ShadowSpear. I remember you were discussing about it before on one of your videos.
In time, i need to finish painting, but i've been so consumed with content for ya'll!
ItalianSpartacus hope to see it someday this year :D
GW made the novel in which his whole body was found as non-canon. One of the few times they would retcon a book. The official canon is that only his hand was found.
You helped me start my channel . i thank you alot
Dude you are awesome at narrating. I hope you keep doing 40k videos!
7:40 out of all of The Primarchs only
Russ
Sanguíneus
Dorne
Magnes (doesn’t count you know why)
Rowboat Girlyman
Vulken
Manus
Were the only Primarchs who successfully merged the two aspects of their legions, but some better than most.
You're on a rampage brother!! I hope you're enjoying the Primarch videos :)
ItalianSpartacus I am
As far as I am concerned, Dorn is alive in stasis somewhere only the chapter master of the Black Templars knows. He can only be recalled under specific circumstances. And, yes his arm was cutoff, and now he has this badass cybernetic powerfist that has a combi-plasma gun/melta gun built into it, the Dornfist. As Resident of the Internet Either, I declare this valid and canon!
Iron Within Iron With.... oh wait
great video as always. Loving the 40K lore
"Bobby G, BOOM!"- made my day lol
Chapter master Valrak approves of this video.
Hahaha I wish. I watch all of his News update. Easier than going to WH community
Where does it say that horus looks up to guilliman. In rise of horus, it talks about how horus doesnt like guilliman because guilliman is jealous and such. I think horus looked up to saguinius more so. Horus goes out of his way to talk about the compitance and loyalty of sanguinus, dorn, and fulgrim rather than kahn and guilliman
i believe it's during his fever dreams on Davin
Love it!
Dorn isnt a favorite of mine but I do favor the Black Templars. Can we get a video on them?
The man, the myth, the legend!
I wish he returns 😭
Dorn is actually In my opinion best writen primarch. When other primarchs you basically get their ideas on 1-2 books but with Dorn you actually have to read maaaaany books before everything just clicks and turns out Dorn was One of the emperors keys to get where we are now
Only one problem I can see other than the body thing that was pointed out. Necromunda was a fight against daemons not greenskins. Great video though! :)
nay sire! Necromunda was indeed held by the greenskins. There are very few instances of daemon incursions during the Great Crusade because of the denial of their existence via the Secular Truth. The books talk pretty firmly about how that Truth reduces their power in the "corporeal" realm. We only barely start to see moments of it at the very beginning of the HH, but that's already 100 or 200 years into the Crusade.
thank you so much for watching though! :D sorry if that came off dickish, just didn't want you to think i get bogus info and go, "YUP!!! LOOKS GOOD!" hahahah
Doesn't Vulkan tell Koorland (Slaughter) that he would tell Dorn how well they did during The War of the Beast? And I'm pretty sure that takes place after Dorn disappears cause that's when Koorland enacts the Last Wall protocol.
You are shocked, Father. And I understand why.
Great Video!!!
thank you so much for watching!
*the only legon that came close to horuses accomplishments were the imperial first* wrong wrong wrong. the dark angels had far more accomplishments under there belts though a lot of the records were kept hidden, lion el johnson had the best battle record in the imperium after horus and that's with him being found in the second half of the primarks. actually what did dorn even think of the lion, never hear about those two interacting.
So.. I had heard the same thing.. And I'm wondering which one is hyperbole now. I tried to fact check this as much as possible because BOTH entries say this. Do you have any resources you can provide?? It's super irritating because I try to make these accurate :(
As for Lion and Dorn, I also have like... Zero interaction between the two. It might be in the more recent stuff to come out with a conversation between Dorn and Sanguinius maybe? Dorn asking why the Lion didn't join them maybe, then his feelings are revealed?
@@italianspartacus well i looked around for quite some time, but was unable to find the direct point were it was said, (to many books to look though) but on the dark angels page wikipidia under dawn of the imperium and the great crusade sub point it says under lion el johnson leadership the dark angels calmed more victories then any other besides the luner wolves"
To be fair perturabo was given the most difficult and grueling of crusades. Something none of the other primarchs would have succeeded in. Out of sheer stubbornness yes.
I miss you Dorn. I miss you so.
Pertuarbo didn’t become a daemon primarch until after the iron cage incident.
Correct me if I’m wrong but was it not that Dorns pain glove was a real actual gauntlet he could wear, and that what was described was the ‘pain glove ‘ used by the Astartes after dorn ‘died’. Anyway great video thank you sparty ps defo do a sigismund video
actually it's a BODY glove. I thought the same thing for so long until I really dove into it :D
ItalianSpartacus ah ok, I wasn’t sure that’s just what I got in my head from lore I read, thanks Spartacus
Would love to see a video about Sigismund
YOU'RE IN LUCK! I did it already ;) ua-cam.com/video/GZxva1yq6Cw/v-deo.html
The Eisenstein did not come out of the warp in front of the Phalanx. It came out half dead, and had to jettison it's warp core for detonation out of desperation. It was that detonation that guided Dorn out of the warp.
You're not wrong, but from a narrative stance I chose to omit that. There's only so many details I can include before I lose someone. And I'm trying to do these from the perspective of someone who has little understanding of the existing Lore :)
I couldn't imagine the lion and dorn liking each other too much. I dont think i could even see them working together too well either......... pre heresy of course, the dark angels work with no one post heresy lol.
Rogal Dorn AKA Mr Fister.