Honda Innova attempts Bealach Na Ba (Pass of the Cattle), Scotland
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- Опубліковано 15 чер 2016
- Some more funny rants, tomfoolery and the origin of 'Bunny Bandit' as I attempt the Pass of the Cattle (Bealach na Ba), Applecross on a Honda Innova on my tour of Scotland. Can a 9 bhp Honda Innova climb the greatest ascent in the UK? All is revealed. My apologies for the weather, the camera wipes, my awfully bad language and bad humour.
Fascinating series of videos. Just 3BHP more on that bike would make all the difference. Back in 1975 I bought a Honda CB125S (12 BHP & 5 speed) and my wife and I toured England and Scotland many times. Our combined weight was about the same as yours (!) and we travelled light, but it seemed to run up the hills easier. We also did Hardnott Pass, Wrynose and Honistor in the Lake District. You really don't need a 1200 GS to tour!! Bob
I’ve got a inova 125
Basically same bike but red
And I was gonna flog it
I bought it to deliver pizza on
But the insurance was to much
Any interest of selling yet I’m thinking of keeping it
Talking of more horse 🐎
You can get a big bore kit for these bikes ,
Which I’m told the piston come with the rings ready gapped and you get a high lift cam ,
So it’s up from 124-147
Which don’t seem a lot but it apparently makes a good bit of difference
I’ve seen one guy that had it dyno and got 17 bhp ?!?!?!?
He had an oil cooler also ….
I don’t think I’d go that far
I suspect the reliability could be affected for the worse ,
I saw a kit earlier while looking and it takes it up to a 180 cc
But you have to make it fit in the crank ,
I think the bottom end my be un to much pressure,
If I do mine ill make a video and ill coment mate 👌
Brilliant video took me back to my youth on my first bike, a C50 that I past my test on at 16 years old in 1971 can still remember the reg: TWH 890K happy days. Had all sorts since then. Now retired and driving around UK and Europe you've inspired me mite look for a cub to put on the back of my motorhome. Happy travels Bob & Paula from Lancs.
Extremely Entertaining and so informative without any Tech Jargon, Keep on Touring, you are giving great inspiration, stay Well & Safe,
James.
James Tyrrell thanks for your comments James. I have a few things lined up for 2017. We have a new 2017 Honda Vision 110, the new one with the ESP engine and upgraded everything! My girlfriend is planning to follow me to Cornwall on that this year whilst I ride the S Wing so if that comes off (possible house move in the way) we will be recording footage. I also have the S wing in bits at the moment for a final drive rebuild and some nice touring luggage upgrades including the Kappa equivalent of a Givi Trekker 52 box! There is also suspension upgrades going on and I'm researching Cerakote, a non rust, heat resistant powder coating for your exhaust. Much to do then as soon as the weather cheers up. The Vision 110 review will be published soon but the first impression is it's very very good to ride. I hope that you will find some of my content in 2017 interesting and best regards
Excellent and what I did like was that you didn't spoil it, by playing music over it. (my pet hate). Just your narration and the sound of the motor. Little bike seemed to cope admirably too. Loved it..
You have inspired me to rethink the purchase of my 1st scooter. Thanks so much!
I love it when people like you show that small bikes are capable of mighty deeds. As more macho big bike riders.......!
I enjoyed viewing this video from the back catalogue of Scooty Man videos. I love the small bike stuff. Anyone can tour on a liter-bike. My Harley friends are amazed at the mileage that I put on my Helix. The brakes on the Helix are not particularly impressive. When I watched this video, I couldn’t help but think that the ride down looked more challenging than the climb. I always worry about having adequate braking. Thanks for the videos.
Hello good sir, I was chatting to you on The Fox Way/just by The Silent Pool(guy with the Ortlieb on the full sus mtb), your videos are great, very watch-able, light hearted and informative narration, I salute your efforts, and I am certainly looking forward to seeing more, great stuff!
Watched loads of videos of bikers doing this pass but yours was the best. Great ride for a little scoot! Funny commentary too.
Great video. Love the commentary. Thanks for sharing.
Loving the Videos.. Thinking of getting a Honda vision 110. Reaaly great review on that one..
Love your videos mate. I've got a Honda Ferota 125cc and intend to tour on it. Good luck to you.
I have 2009 I buy it new. great choice! I'm even doing dirt, climbing mud and lot more! I love it!!!
Ha ha this is total mint. To me this is more exciting than taking a big bike up. I did this with my wife on a 400cc Bergman. That was a challenge but you sir have my utmost respect. I would love to do this on a cbf 125. Stay safe and stay a butter. I hope one day I have the privilege of meeting you.
Thanks for your comments Phil. I really enjoyed that tour. It was part of the reason we moved to Scotland after. I’ve just bought a Burgman 400 myself and I’m sure it’ll make an appearance on the channel before not too much longer.
Take care and best regards
Simon
If you like steep hills, try the Mamore Gap in County Donegal, Ireland. It's not a very long (1 mile) climb but it's steep (30%) and would certainly challenge your 125. The scenery round there is fantastic.
Great video. Thanks.
I’m glad you’ve left that comment on here as a reference for me in the future. It was a long drawn out hill this pass. I went up another in I think the Peak District or the Yorkshire Dales on my way up to Scotland. Don’t know the name but that was a ‘first gear’ too.
Thanks again for your comments and best regards
Realy enjoyable vidio mate, small bikes big adventures. More fun to!!!!
I love the Honda Innovas! Really miss my 2003 carb'd one,
After riding superbikes and big tourers for most of my life, and now working as a test/ development rider since 2008, I can confirm that bikes are like a penis. You don't need a big one to have fun if you know how to use it! I've recently rescued a Suzuki FL125 and I can't wait to get out and simply have fun! Loved the video, subbed, and looking forward to rifling through your videos.
New subscriber here.
I just found your channel
Looks very nice. Looking forward to binge watching your videos now that I have found your channel. Thanks
Mark from Maryland USA
Thanks for your comments Mark. I’m slowly adding more content as and when I have time. I’m glad you’re enjoying the fruits of my labour 😁
Best regards
Simon
Fantastic video and I completely agree that power and speed snobbery among bikers has reached ridiculous levels. They just don't get it, because with their dim-witted mental capacity they think biking is just about quick thrills of getting up to 90 mph in 4 seconds on public roads and to hell with everyone else, and that's exactly why most people hate "bikers". They have no interest in the landscape itself, only the "twisties", which they then navigate around at suicidal speeds. The equally stupid, childish biking media also promote this ludicrous power snobbery. They simply don't understand that being on two wheels is not just about 100+HP and suicidal speeds. Well done for being different - and very good humoured too!
Thank you for the video. And thank you for not having a music track. I stumbled upon your videos thinking that you were riding a little scooter. I thought it was a 125 cc bike that we don’t get in the states. I was thinking it was a sh125. As a big fan of the Honda cub, I was delighted that your bike looks like it is actually a cub derivative. Add one more subscriber to your count.
little bikes are FUN - well done ( Yamaha T80 Townmate rider)
This small bike is a lot tougher than what most people think.. I am a wave 100 user 2006 model still going strong and looks new..
I didn't find it boring, I do love the sound of the engine, I'm getting a wave,I like both of these bikes.
Have you gotten your wave, how do you like it :)?
@@addeade231 ,nope not yet,money issues, I've been looking into the electric super moto zero company the Dsr an the fxs model.
I have the 2011 model. Can i ask, is your windshield an after market or did you make this yourself? i like it... nice size too!
Great stuff!
I really enjoyed watching this engaging video. Sub'd & voted!
Its now 2020 and after watching vids like these i have gone and bought a new Honda c125 Super Cub , it so reminds me of my much loved c90 ( that i sold for £5:00 ) these bike are by far more fun than any super bike , I mean what other motor-cycle lets you shout "Good Morning" to fellow road users as you pass them...
Is the cub any good would love to know.
@@paulcummins5231 If you want the truth...NO it is not good, way too expensive it is nothing like the old c90/c70/c50 its more of a yuppy/soyboy bike and VERY expensive for spare parts ( a pair of leg sheilds is around £500 ....much frefer the little Honda CB125F
@@korky7775 oh right I'm looking at an inovva I think it is do you know much about them.
@@paulcummins5231 VERY VERY nice little bikes...build like tanks great on spares and comfy to ride ...Superb little machine.
@@korky7775 oh brilliant could you recommend another step through bike in the Honda range.
2:13. Extreme honesty. RESPECT. I Chewed another Tuber off the other day for actually introducing his vid with instructions to Like and Sub. It's just plain bad manners...
This is why we love the Honda Wave 125 here in the Philippines... the Underbone :-)
Great bikes these. I prefer the Carb version to the FI models, personally. Smell like a proper classic bike (2003/2004 range) and you warm the engine, use the choke in winter, brilliant stuff! Fantastic machines and last a lot longer than these modern ‘big bikes’. Engines on these are bullet proof. Very rarely miss a beat and when things (rarely) need replacing it is very cheap fix.
I wouldn't be riding a lot faster than you with my 750 Suzuki on that road given that weather. That little Honda is a real little giant - will bring anyone everywhere.
hyper link I couldn't agree more with you. I also have a big Honda and to be honest I would rather take the Innova in that weather every time. I've actually put that to bed for the winter hoping for a crisp dry sunny day or two over the period and my Vision 110 is doing the 45 mile round trip to work daily.
Thanks for your comments and best regards
Well done over the cattle Pass too by the way (-;
You are right it is all about fun,,,,,,,,,,,,
think I've watch this about 5 times now ..lol....great stuff. ..I was just wondering wether you have seen any vids by ..c90 adventures ...also great stuff ...cheers!!
dad6307 I love his Iran and India videos. That day was fun, one I'll never forget. Best regards
Where did you manage to get a screen!!!!!
A absolutely must
I like your video....thanks!!!
Erwin Almendrala
Hi Erwin,
Thanks, I’m glad you enjoyed it. I really enjoyed making this one and despite the poor conditions, this particular ride was fun.
Best regards
Scooty
What were the bikes you sold and bought along with this nova please?
Excellent.
Nice. Good vid 👍
Thank you. Was some time ago now and many lessons have since been learned! 😁
Hi scoots couldn’t read all your message but got the gist of it . Good luck with the move baby and refurb I Remember when you said you would maybe sell up and move to Scotland well done .and I think your a dad to maybe see you on here in the future don’t know if you still have a bike but take care pal
I love it
Its different and I like that , these little bikes make every ride an adventure ,I'm with you Honda are mad not to import these machine well done I enjoyed your Vlog I got utterly bored of big machines nearly put me off motorcycles for life I'm now saving for a Vespa 300 or similar 👍👍👍👍👍
Adventures With Woody
Hi Woody and thanks for your comments. It would seem we are at opposites right now as I have just upgraded the licence and bought an immaculate 2006 Honda CBF 1000 with 11000 on the clock. I'm still keeping my Vision though for the daily commute and of course the next adventure maybe.
Best regards and have fun Vespa hunting
Which windscreen is used here?
loved your vids ...when are you uploading more ..cheers bud
dad6307 thanks for your comments. I am uploading more soon. I'm waiting on the weather despite riding through the winter with heated gear. I have just posted a long reply to another subscriber with all tat I have planned for 2017. It should be a good year with what I have planned. Best regards
great vid, where did you get the screen from ? looks great
adrian eades
thank you for your comments. I don't remember where I bought the screen to be honest. it was all a bit last minute as I had planned to tour on a VanVan. I think I googled Puig traffic Honda and and it came up in the search engine. a guy in England supplied it. hope that helps
I think the reason Honda stopped importing the wave was because the new Cub has been released. The wave was originally sold as a replacement for the C90 but now the new Cub is here then there is no need for the wave.
Amazing ride ! Please make this supra x video back again
hi SM can I ask why you sold the CB125 and bought the annova? I also notice you don't have L plates so I'm guessing you have a full licence? if so why choose another 125? thanks.
Christopher Harlow
Hi Christopher. Thank you for your questions. The answer is really it's a love thing! When I was a small lad I used to watch the dock workers ride out of Southampton docks on Honda C90's. I've always been a bit of a geek or maybe an oddball when it comes to preferences with transport and other such things and the C90 started it all off. I used to walk all over Southampton after school collecting new car brochures as I was car crazy back then as a teenager. My favourite garage was Freeborn Citroen because of the oddball innovative French cars like the Citroen CX, the 2CV6 and let's not forget the BX. That developed over time with bikes and scooters and I just loved the basic machines like my first bike, a blue coloured Honda CB125RS. I always wanted a C90 and I was fascinated by how the gearbox worked without a clutch. Indeed it does have a clutch just operated by your foot instead of your hand and that's where the innova came in. I couldn't find a decent C90 so I bought the Innova 125. It wasn't for any other bad reason I sold the CB125F. Indeed I rate it highly and interestingly it's made by the same factory as the old CB125RS back in the 80's, namely Wuyang Honda (A Honda built in China). I simply had to have the Innova as it's was mint with only 180 miles on the clock and it was my chance to get a good one. I was out of garage space so needed to trade a bike and the CB went.
As for my licence, yes I had an A1 as I had no interest in bigger bikes at that time. Last month that all changed and I passed my full bike licence. Today I bought my first four cylinder 1000 cc Honda. It's a 2006 CBF 1000 in great condition with very low miles. No doubt that will make its debut on my channel soon but, in the same vein as all my bike choices, the CBF is considered quite a utilitarian sport tourer. I guess I'll never change but you should definitely have a play with an innova if you get the chance to ride one.
Best regards
Scooty Man , thanks for the reply. Weirdly I take my part 2 test in Kettering on Wednesday morning. It may sound a bit odd but I haven't enjoyed riding 600s. I did my part 1 on a Kawasaki ERN . I've had lessons and will take my part 2 on a Yamaha diversion. The bigger bikes are completely different to ride than the smaller bikes I used to ride in the 1990s. However I promised myself I would take my test so here goes. It will probably sound mad but my ideal bike would be something like a YBR 250. I may even but a 125 as I haven't ridden (apart from lessons and CBT) for almost 30 years. I don't know why I waited so long
Christopher Harlow
Good luck with the test matey. I watched a load of UA-cam videos by RJH Motorcycle training and they helped with some tips. I liked the one when you enter a new road, "check mirrors, check signals" as I always left my indicators on. The test isn't hard. They just want to know you are in control and safe so you'll be fine. I looked at the YBR 250 along with the Inazuma 250. On eBay they are £2600 OTR brand new and look good value but I decided to go bigger for low rpm cruising capability and overtaking power that I never had before. I did my test on a Gladius 650 V twin and I must confess to liking it but I think I'd get bored quickly. It felt a bit of a one trick pony, that being fairly rapid acceleration and good low down torque from the V twin engine. I'm thinking I'm more of a smooth inline four kind of person and the CBF came up tops.
Whatever you decide, you'll enjoy the small capacity machines I'm sure.
Best regards
first gear looks like really long...? till, looks, about 50 kph?
Janis Ciemgals I drive a Honda Wave 125s which is the asian model of Wave innova, I drive the exact same model in the video. The first gear is from no to 40 but I have it modded so I have to shift in 25 or 30
Ride safe always god bless moto is life from phillipines
I'm toying on the idea on one of these. But learning on a piaggio mp3 125cc for grip!!!
What are your thoughts 🤔 😕. Im on city rodes and roundabouts. Lot of corners and in the rain 🌧
Scares the crap out of me
But theses bikes are cheap to run
But no abs/ traction control.
Riding that rode your on in the rain no traffic ok
The Innova/Wave etc is available in much of Asia for around £700 - admittedly in a more basic form, but Honda are missing a trick here. Looking at the success of Enfield in creating a niche market, why not do the same at around say £1000?
I agree Peter. I just don't think that people want the gear change albeit semi-automatic as much over here. The Super cub 125 sadly hasn't sold as many as Honda would have liked to and yet, If I could just have a basic C110 super cub with spoked wheels, a flat seat and drum brakes, I'd jump at one.
Thanks for your comments and best regards
The wind screen seems to do a good job ?
Adventures With Woody
Yes it was a bit of a saviour at times although did need periodic tinkering to keep it level. Essential for a long journey though and keeps you drier
If you wanted a really nice maxi scooter, my S Wing is being traded in on Thursday and would be a steal with all of the extras I have done if your interested?
saw up up there, tim with the pcx and ambulance, after our chat I did it I just got one a ANF125I, we have best of both PCX AND ANF. SORRY DONT KNOW HOW TO PM YOU AS NEW TO UA-cam, let me know how to do that. tim. great vid.
Hi Tim, nice to hear from you and sorry for the slow reply. I have since been back to Scotland and I'm planning the return trip for 2017. I sold the Innova and bought my girlfriend a brand new vision 50 that will make an appearance soon. I've got some other bike ideas in the pipeline too so will pm you if possible and let's chat again some time. Take care and ride safe. Simon
lol class mate
Me and my son have just done the NC 500 me on the new cub125 2022 and my son on the 2022 grom. Pretty hard going really it’s the time it takes compared to bigger bikes which we have got and done it on people shouldn’t feel so cocky doing on bike bikes, in my opinion it’s a piece of piss on a big bike.
It's scary when they drive on the wrong side of the rode. It's same in Thailand but not different 😄.
What the gearing like on the innova I'm buying one in a few days
The answer would depend on what you want the gearing to do. The thing is with the innova in general is it is a long stroke engined scooter that makes maximum torque low down in the Rev range. It’s not one for being hurried but the usability is great. You can change the sprockets smaller or larger if you are heavier or looking for an overall higher cruising gear. Best this is to ride it for three months and see if it does what you want it to do before changing it.
Good luck
Where can l buy such a windshield
I could only recommend you do a Google search now as it's been some time since I bought the windshield.
Sorry I cannot help further
Where have you gone scootyman
Would you recommend getting one of these
Hi Paul,
A nice low mileage well maintained one yes. If not, the new Supercub is an option albeit maybe a too pretty one for daily use but I guess it’s designed for that. I’d love a Supercub with a set of spiked wheels for work and a slightly wider fairing and high screen. That would be great.
Best regards
@@scootyman2974 is there anything else you would suggest.
Honda ultimate 4 stroke technology :-) - great video!!! Unfortunately bikes like the Innova belong to endangered species.
Alex Schmidt sadly since the recession in 2007/2008, cheap has been the business strategy of many and quality is harder to find. I have noticed though that the quality is returning and we have a new bike that shows just that. All the best for 2017
It does need more gears though. Reminds me of my old C90 - thrashing in second or bogged down in third.
Simon Sackett an extra gear might be good. Recently I've been riding scooters with CVT and as much as I like the control of a manual or semi auto, I'm growing to love CVT a little more each day. infinite ratios only controlled by the amount of power you have works. I'm considering adding another 3 BHP and 3 NM of torque with an upgrade on my S Wing 125 to make it more useable. It doesn't sound much but when you only have 13 bhp to start with, that's a decent amount extra to have especially with CVT.
The C90 will always be the king of scooters in my heart. I'm waiting till I move and a project will be underway.
More power is always good. Happy scootering!
a scooty scotty...
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Bit of a fraud,What's the point of filming a spectacular pass in thick mist, not a WHITE OUT by the way that is in snow and in clear weather the Bealach is best seen in the other direction. Also not the highest road in Scotland, that is the Cairnwell
You’re right John, I’m a total fraud. What a b*****d eh? I’ll have to have a word with god and ask him to make it sunny when I go over the pass next time. But I shouldn’t worry so much. With your expertise you shouldn’t be so disappointed with my rubbish footage when you’ve clearly been there and done it all yourself. Clearly you did it so much better than me. Which is why I stopped filming UA-cam videos because I got sick of keyboard muppets like yourself leaving junk remarks like that.
Nobody asked you to watch my video. Vote with your finger and click on something else 😛
more high less oxygen make engine lower hp
In my opinion... You need to learn how to change the gear without loosing its power.
Fajar Alkharis
Well Fajar, lucky then that I’m not asking for your opinion 😜 If you wanted to leave something positive and constructive on my channnel, I would welcome your comments.
Happy new year and best regards
Scooty Man take it easy men it’s just an opinion.
@@scootyman2974
Take it easy man. Constructive comments are sometimes perceived as negative. Take it for what it is.
Besides, he could have given you his opinion on grammar and punctuation!
Where have you gone scootyman
Kirby Kirkbride
Hi Kirby,
It’s a long story but in short I sold my business, moved to Scotland, retrained for work, bought a house and I’m midway through a complete refurbishment. Oh and I’m a dad now too so quite a bit has happened.
I do fully intend at some point to come back with more content but at the moment my channel is on the back burner.
I have still got the Vision 110 and I also bought a CBF1000 which I have toured most of the Highlands on.
Let me get through the winter and get some walls and ceilings up in my house and I will post some content soon.
Best regards
Scoots