They didn't draft Luka because they had Fox. But they drafted Haliburton? If a guy in the draft is way better than someone on your team at the same position, just draft the dude and trade your current player. It's not complicated.
@@ryanbaumgart9837🤦I never said he was. I'm just saying, Fox is a better defender and u can't act like he's not a bucket. He got the Kings a #3 seed 2 years ago, y Luke dem was in the Lottery😂😂😂
1 Timothy 2:9 “In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;” Matthew 5:28 “But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.”
@@g5162 Fox, Sabonis and Sac got solid outside shooters, plus Fox can get a bucket in the clutch, Kyrie is kinda old now, so it spot minutes yeah Fox is better
I remember there was a story that coach Knight from IU had told, Zeke told it as well. After coach Knight coached MJ in the 84 Olympics he had said something along the lines of him being the best player he had ever seen. When asked about the draft, Knight said whatever you do, take Jordan. Someone then said, “what if you need a center”? His response was, “draft Jordan, and play him at center” whatever you do, take him. Portland went ahead and took a 7footer in Sam Bowie, instead of pairing MJ up with Clyde Drexler. The rest, is history.
The Mavs had Dennis Smith Jr(a Fox lite play style ) and they made that call for Luka. Yeah no excuses for that blunder. Even if it don’t work you still get an all time player and possibly something in a trade.
Marvin Bagley killed his one year at Duke and was a top 3 recruit out of HS. Bagley ended up the Black Tyler Hansborough or Christian Laettner. He was projected to go Top 3. Why didn’t the Suns get the same smoke for talking Ayton. He was better than Bagley, but no where near Luka. He had the talent, but not the work ethic or motor.
Love this show but sometimes y'all just be biased and wrong. That man told you why he didn't draft Luka. It checks out. Other teams passed on Luka too.
Because hali isn’t a score first guard d fox ain’t tryna move off ball and shoot him and luka would work fox can defend and run and slash luka can pass and rebound and shoot sabonis would have made that arguably the leagues best big 3
How is kings dumb when u yourself said it didn’t work. WHICH IT DIDNT. Kings were able to get the center they been trying to get which literally matches Fox perfectly, which is who bagley was SUPPOSED TO BE
BRUH lmao...swear the funniest shit is trying to watch a nicca bounce back from a PAUSE moment😂😂😂 Rashad had one at 14:47 ...then said "long" again at 15:07..thought they was laughin wit him tho instead of at him is wat killed it 😆😆😆 nicca felt awkward af out there afterward..... Man be safe out there fellas when talkin lol
I’d rather have fox than Hali. Fox is so underrated. He has never had a talented team in all his years. In 2023 they got beat by the warriors in 7, they weren’t a bad team at all. Fox is like that. But they couldn’t play cause they the same position.
@@HoopsRaccoon you've seen Kyrie and Luka in Dallas right? Even Fox and Halli would've been good together too. But getting Sabonis was big for the Kings too.
@@paomec321they weren’t good though. So it’s no way to say they would’ve been good. & Kyrie is much better off ball than Fox. Tyrese best skills come from having the ball in his hands, they didn’t compliment each other.
@@paomec321 you know what I agree with you and Gil, I was speaking more from the gm. I also think kyrie is one of the smartest players IQ wise. Him and Luka working so quickly is because ky sacrificed his game for Luka.
One thing to have in mind is that some players get drafted when they 18 and some of them grew after 2/3 years but they keep the same measurement as when they got drafted
Thats the Difference between a good ran organization and a bad one. We already had Luka and Cuban said tried Everything he possibly could in 2020 and offered all the assets we could afford to try to trade up so we could draft Hali to pair him with Luka. They saw the vision and potential pairing them together an how special thet duo could be.
well it does has something to do with fox. because he didn’t draft him because fox was there same reason the blazers didn’t take jordan cause they already had drexler
I swear to God Gilbert Rena hates being wrong, lol. Even if Jayson Tatum is 6'10, you can Google pictures of Luka standing next to him and JT is visibly taller. 😂😂😂
He drafted based on what the team needed not whose the best or most popular player to pick in the class he’s did what he was supposed to do now he should’ve got Jaren Jackson Jr if he could’ve got him rather than Bagley
If you got a top 3-5 pick you pick based on best player and figure out the rest later. If you already a bad team you need bpa. You need talent not fit lmao
It's just like when the Rockets made the move to get Chris Paul on the roster who is ball dominant and a point guard having James Harden the year before shifted to point guard and had his best season at that point in his career. Just acquire the talent that's available to you and figure it out , most great basketball players will... Anthony Davis and DeMarcus Cousins is another example.
I love how everyone all of a sudden knew Luka was gonna be an MVP level player. There were a lot of doubts aroud Luka thats why he went 5. There were 4 teams that were wrong and on the day of the draft not many had probems with Luka not going 1.
Drafting Luka would have hurt the development of Fox just like it did with DSJ. Luka needed the ball him his hand for his development. Kyrie is a vet and knows how to play off ball so it works better.
Hindsight you can say anything. Bagley was a monster coming out of high school. Luka was a young international player. It’s not stupid to take bagley over Luka. You can’t predict if these picks are going to work or not. It’s a gamble with all of them.
Vlade didn’t want pair Luka and fox, but Cuban drafteed Luka after using a lottery pic on Dennis smith jr. Then when they get rid of DSJ and Carlisle went to the pacers, Cuban tried to pair Luka withHalliburton and the only reason it didn’t happen was because Luka was clashing either Carlisle before he left the mavs, and when Carlisle got to the pacers he sabotaged the mavs draft out of vengeance
Vlade trying to take away from the actual worst move in NBA history, when he got moved to Hornets for the 13th pick Kobe in 1996. Granted he almost beat Kobe if it werent for the script.
Vlade needs to know Dallas already had Dennis Smith who had a solid Rookie season… you always take the best player available especially when the player is generational
Why are we leaving the Suns out of this conversation. They definitely should’ve been the 1st pick. One of his national team coaches was on staff and Booker played better off the ball when he had a decent NBA point guard. This would could have been a perfect fit for both. They wouldn’t have to spend big money on CP3, kept Cam and Bridges, and find a free agent big that meshed more with the offense than Ayton. The team would be probably be still be roughly in take to this day especially considering they got rid of their 3 young players in such a short span
The REEEEAL reason Vlade didn’t draft Luka, is that Vlade and Luka’s father have beef that dates back to the 80s & 90s back in Europe. They hated eachother
It's the NBA. If you can draft a future hall of famer you do it. Doesn't matter the need. NBA you're lucky if you get two hall of famers in a draft. Most championship teams have two hall of famers on it.
fox's best teammate for the first 3-4 years before sabonis and hali were buddy hield and marvin bagley no way in hell you can expect him to carry sacarmento to anything vlade threw him under the bus
It's NOT the worst. Remember Portland making the same mistake in 1984? Apparently they already had a 2 guard in Clyde so the drafted Sam Bowie instead of MJ
Look at the Mavs when they traded for Luka in the draft. They drafted Dennis Smith Jr. 1 year before Luka and planned to have him as their starting pg but once they saw Luka with their own eyes, they gave Luka the ball. The Kings could have done the same thing but they are stupid if it wasn’t Divacs personal issues with Luka’s dad. But I definitely wasn’t complaining about their stupidity as a Mavs fan
Is Luka the same guy either the same amount of success with him not being on the Mavs and going to a different situation. Side question: what team do you think he would’ve turned out bad/ineffective on
They didn't draft Luka because they had Fox. But they drafted Haliburton? If a guy in the draft is way better than someone on your team at the same position, just draft the dude and trade your current player. It's not complicated.
Facts!
Good in the amateur isn’t good in pros
Yea but why we acting like the kings had the 1st pick….. didn’t they suns draft ayton that year, and the hawks traded for Trae
The regime after Vlade drafted Tyrese, for the record.
Bro they were 2 different GMS. Vlade drafted bagley, mcnair drafted hali
Lexies legs are the real MVP
Bruh. I legit get no bitches. But those are some stock ass legs. I see those everyday, every couple minutes. 😂
You need some cold water brother
Facts
Stop objectifying her bro
Regular bony legs on a average chick bro calm down
How Divac telling Fox to play better when he averaging 30😂😂😂
Facts!! better put some respect on my brother FOX 🦊 name!! He might not talk to me But he been balling In Siberia,CA
respectfully 26 ain’t 30 , only 5 assists
@toerawyea He was the NBA Steals Champ 23-24 and he's was NBA Clutch POY in 22-23🤷♂️
@@cwhitt8110he also ain’t luka so
@@ryanbaumgart9837🤦I never said he was. I'm just saying, Fox is a better defender and u can't act like he's not a bucket. He got the Kings a #3 seed 2 years ago, y Luke dem was in the Lottery😂😂😂
Gil refused to take the L on the Luka height discussion. Read the context of the quote and still wouldn’t accept it 😂
Bruh 😂😂😂😂
*" society is cooked, everyone talkin in no diddy terms "* 😂💀
No diddy
😂😂😂😂
I read ur comment a milsec after Shad said it ..
Detroit passed on Carmelo Anthony cause they had Tayshaun Prince.
They won the championship that year though; so it was the right decision!
Would have won 3@@brendenhassler4613
😂😂😂😂 Carmelo went on to win nothing with no one.
@@brendenhassler4613would’ve more with him so bad decision even Chauncey said iy
Listen, Lexie better relax with those LEGS 😮💨
Stop objectifying her bro
@@theicon145 it's not objectifying, it's an astute observation.
@@theicon145Captain save a hoe to the rescue😂😂😂
@@theicon145 NO
1 Timothy 2:9
“In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;”
Matthew 5:28
“But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.”
How you tell stories is amazing!
Why he try to throw it on fox 😂😂😂😂
Luka and Fox would be one of the best backcourts in the nba
Sac would already have a 🏆, biggest blunder in history, Luka winning MVP at 19 in euro league is a no brainer
@@Johnny.NaturalSo fox is better than Kyrie?
@@g5162 Fox, Sabonis and Sac got solid outside shooters, plus Fox can get a bucket in the clutch, Kyrie is kinda old now, so it spot minutes yeah Fox is better
they wouldn't have most of the players they have now if they got luka
@@g5162 they would have had 5 years of playing together. Thats a lot of time to try for a ring. Kyries only been there a year and a half.
Eddie Jones and Kobe Bryant could've been a one two punch. I hated it when the LAKERS got rid of EJ
Bruh' he was the whole reason I became a Lakers fan..I was like "who tf is this Kobe guy, tryna replace EJ" 🤣🤣🤣🤣💜💛
Koby didn’t want a 1/2 punch he wanted the ball every possession
@@postsniper-7532 he was coming off the bench at the time. He didn't have that mentally as a rookie.
@@postsniper-7532u just lie to yo self and don’t watch games
Kobe’s Pop got Eddie Jones moved
I remember there was a story that coach Knight from IU had told, Zeke told it as well. After coach Knight coached MJ in the 84 Olympics he had said something along the lines of him being the best player he had ever seen. When asked about the draft, Knight said whatever you do, take Jordan. Someone then said, “what if you need a center”? His response was, “draft Jordan, and play him at center” whatever you do, take him. Portland went ahead and took a 7footer in Sam Bowie, instead of pairing MJ up with Clyde Drexler. The rest, is history.
1:49 The way Gil looks at Rashad 😂😂😭😭
dont forget Lebron averaged 37 PPG against McCants
shout out to the new subs !!!
Wipe your mouth
😂
It’s getting old rn
Makes me laugh every time 😂
@@SovereignStateofBraindonia 😭😭😭
Luka is not 6’10
He was over exaggerating clearly. Regardless Luka is above average sized PG
He 6’8 barefoot shoes add an inch or 2 so he would be 6’10 on the court
@bandzyolo Smh, hes not 6'10. Just like Gil , cant admit when u said something stupid
Why yall bozos feel the need to respond when yall saying the same shit I said ? F all yall
Luka is 6’8
Hind sight is always 20/20.
Came for the topic, stayed for the legs.
Stop objectifying her my Brudda
@@theicon145 I never said whose legs. You exposed yourself with that objectifying shit bruh.
@@theicon145bro STFU 😄, her legs poppin
@@theicon145*appreciating
@@theicon145 I never said whose legs... So you just exposed yourself with that objectification shit there big guy.
Someone should ask the Suns former GM the same question…about AYTON. We had Luka’s former coach on the team who was later fired…
The worst move was between trading Luka for Trae and trading SGA to get PG
This conversation reminded me of my starting lineups in nba live 03-06 TMac Kobe Vince KG/Duncan Shaq
The Mavs had Dennis Smith Jr(a Fox lite play style ) and they made that call for Luka. Yeah no excuses for that blunder. Even if it don’t work you still get an all time player and possibly something in a trade.
“The coach who measuring him” is wild!!
Reading both of their achievements in the NBA was basically the ether before the conversation started lmao
Marvin Bagley 😂😂😂
Marvin Bagley killed his one year at Duke and was a top 3 recruit out of HS. Bagley ended up the Black Tyler Hansborough or Christian Laettner. He was projected to go Top 3. Why didn’t the Suns get the same smoke for talking Ayton. He was better than Bagley, but no where near Luka. He had the talent, but not the work ethic or motor.
She look good
That thigh 😅😂
RawDogg
That mighty ducks jersey is 🔥🔥🔥
5:11 am I trippin lolol I swear I hear some one say.. ‘ wait what ? ‘
Brandon saying him and Kyrie are the same height...needed Kenyon here to call the captitude on that one.
2:49 - It's the Jordan and Bowie scenario, and talking about How Portland had Drexler.
3:32 - they then tried Fox and Haliburton
I don't know let's not forget:
1. Minnesota passing on Steph 2 times in the 1st round
2. Detroit drafting Darko Milčić
3. Dallas passing on Giannis
Lexi's legs...🫣
Love this show but sometimes y'all just be biased and wrong. That man told you why he didn't draft Luka. It checks out. Other teams passed on Luka too.
Bro if u defending Vlade u must be related to him. Not only did he fucked he won’t admit his mistake.
@@hendrikdalnoot1989luka and fox couldn’t play together lol
@@reaper10142 yeah exactly what they said about Luka and Kyrie
@@hendrikdalnoot1989 kyrie can actually play off ball lmao whoever said that was dumb
Lmfaoooo Gil was wallen he stood shut for a sec 😂😂😂😂😂
1:20.... Did ever mention his defense...o you can't he ain't got none
Did they ask for your opinion on more successful ppl
Be quiet.
Luka still 100% better
Sam Bowie was drafted by the blazers #2 ahead of MJ. That tops missing a HOF guy for a perennial all star.
Halliburton was traded. He didn’t work with Fox. Kings dumb
Because hali isn’t a score first guard d fox ain’t tryna move off ball and shoot him and luka would work fox can defend and run and slash luka can pass and rebound and shoot sabonis would have made that arguably the leagues best big 3
How is kings dumb when u yourself said it didn’t work. WHICH IT DIDNT. Kings were able to get the center they been trying to get which literally matches Fox perfectly, which is who bagley was SUPPOSED TO BE
@@1takefadesbc they drafted him in the first place but don’t draft luka
These fools said they would draft Yao Ming even if they already had Shaq the year before.
@@Numbers-mc2ks lol ur slow. U do realize they were 2 different GMs. Divac drafted bagley. McNair drafted hali. So what’s ur point
BRUH lmao...swear the funniest shit is trying to watch a nicca bounce back from a PAUSE moment😂😂😂 Rashad had one at 14:47 ...then said "long" again at 15:07..thought they was laughin wit him tho instead of at him is wat killed it 😆😆😆 nicca felt awkward af out there afterward.....
Man be safe out there fellas when talkin lol
The Kings dropped the ball again by trading Halliburton and sticking with Fox but they did get Sabonis but still...
I’d rather have fox than Hali. Fox is so underrated. He has never had a talented team in all his years. In 2023 they got beat by the warriors in 7, they weren’t a bad team at all. Fox is like that. But they couldn’t play cause they the same position.
@@HoopsRaccoon you've seen Kyrie and Luka in Dallas right? Even Fox and Halli would've been good together too. But getting Sabonis was big for the Kings too.
@@HoopsRaccoonbig facts🔥🔥💯
@@paomec321they weren’t good though. So it’s no way to say they would’ve been good. & Kyrie is much better off ball than Fox. Tyrese best skills come from having the ball in his hands, they didn’t compliment each other.
@@paomec321 you know what I agree with you and Gil, I was speaking more from the gm. I also think kyrie is one of the smartest players IQ wise. Him and Luka working so quickly is because ky sacrificed his game for Luka.
How different is fox/doncic vs Brunson/doncic? One would need to depart regardless.
I'm still waiting on my stimulus check
From the phone to the tv needed Lexie on the big screen 😍
One thing to have in mind is that some players get drafted when they 18 and some of them grew after 2/3 years but they keep the same measurement as when they got drafted
#1 Rule when Drafting- “Draft the best available talent”.
He came back cheetah man lmao I’m rolling
Shoes don’t add three inches Gil 🤦🏾♂️
luka grew since he came to the league to 6'9 look at him next to bron they the same height
@@zonervision2than that mean jaylen brown is 6’9 bc jus seen a picture with him and luka..he look the same height maybe a inch taller.
Thats the Difference between a good ran organization and a bad one. We already had Luka and Cuban said tried Everything he possibly could in 2020 and offered all the assets we could afford to try to trade up so we could draft Hali to pair him with Luka. They saw the vision and potential pairing them together an how special thet duo could be.
She’s perfect just sitting there. Agrees isn’t interrupting conversation or changing topics. What a lady
“Martin Luther king was 167yrs old when I met, 167 years old”😂😂😂
You have to know when to pick by position and when to pick best player available it cant be onesided one way decision all the time
I’d play Fox next to Luka, they would fit nice together.
well it does has something to do with fox. because he didn’t draft him because fox was there same reason the blazers didn’t take jordan cause they already had drexler
Never forget that cc in the playoffs and lexie on the couch
Surprised after all this height talk that Arenas is so sure about that Mccants didn't say "woo cooked" or "body bag" at 9:05 cause I sure did.
Samerhing happend with Jordan Portland said they already had Drex
Fox and Luka could co-exist, this is such a cop out lmao
I swear to God Gilbert Rena hates being wrong, lol.
Even if Jayson Tatum is 6'10, you can Google pictures of Luka standing next to him and JT is visibly taller. 😂😂😂
Tatum is a bit taller since he's around 6'8 while Luka is 6'7. If Tatum is 6'10, it would definitely shows.
He drafted based on what the team needed not whose the best or most popular player to pick in the class he’s did what he was supposed to do now he should’ve got Jaren Jackson Jr if he could’ve got him rather than Bagley
If you got a top 3-5 pick you pick based on best player and figure out the rest later. If you already a bad team you need bpa. You need talent not fit lmao
Your logic is dumb as hell. You take the best player
When i play with the spraks ..... I force feed Lexie the ball . Cool 25 , leads the lead in 3s . Oh sexy lexie
It's just like when the Rockets made the move to get Chris Paul on the roster who is ball dominant and a point guard having James Harden the year before shifted to point guard and had his best season at that point in his career.
Just acquire the talent that's available to you and figure it out , most great basketball players will... Anthony Davis and DeMarcus Cousins is another example.
Dearon fox would be perfect on the lakers
Love how Brandon adds a T to Fox name lol
Yall clearly aint been to Sacramento in hella years.
Hoes on top of hoes💯🔥🔥🤝🤪
I love how everyone all of a sudden knew Luka was gonna be an MVP level player. There were a lot of doubts aroud Luka thats why he went 5. There were 4 teams that were wrong and on the day of the draft not many had probems with Luka not going 1.
Drafting Luka would have hurt the development of Fox just like it did with DSJ. Luka needed the ball him his hand for his development. Kyrie is a vet and knows how to play off ball so it works better.
My 76ers trading up to select Markell Fultz #1, was the worst move of the last 20 years...
Perfect example is the Boston Celtics drafting Brown and Tatum in the back to back drafts!
Hindsight you can say anything. Bagley was a monster coming out of high school. Luka was a young international player. It’s not stupid to take bagley over Luka. You can’t predict if these picks are going to work or not. It’s a gamble with all of them.
A perfect example is the Boston Celtics selecting Brown and Tatum in consecutive drafts!
Vlade not picking Luca was totally a personal decision. Sacramento along with Vlade have always loved to pick Europeans.
only semi valid reason is player egos cuz some ppl feelings just be getting hurt...but this can just be used as sign to trade bad team players
Fox and Luka on the same team would’ve been scary in the west 🤦🏾♂️🔥🔥🔥🔥
Let’s not forget everybody thought Marvin Bagley was gon be a generational swing man , that’s why Vlade thought that pairing with Fox would work.
At the time nobody thought Luka was gon be what he is today
Vlade didn’t want pair Luka and fox, but Cuban drafteed Luka after using a lottery pic on Dennis smith jr. Then when they get rid of DSJ and Carlisle went to the pacers, Cuban tried to pair Luka withHalliburton and the only reason it didn’t happen was because Luka was clashing either Carlisle before he left the mavs, and when Carlisle got to the pacers he sabotaged the mavs draft out of vengeance
"I could of picked up Yao Ming but I got Shaq, so no need for another Center" - Vlade logic
Nba draft you should always go with best available, and trade for your needs.
Vlade trying to take away from the actual worst move in NBA history, when he got moved to Hornets for the 13th pick Kobe in 1996. Granted he almost beat Kobe if it werent for the script.
Ive you deal with the Californian Tax Code you at least wanna see the ocean, thats why Sacramento is doomed.
Shaq and Yao on the same team is crazy work 😂
HARDEN AND KYRIE was a horror movie... the origin of scary hours
Like kids big kids don’t share their toys with little kids.Stars respect each when they get older
BuT Gil says the pistons would’ve been dumb for taking Melo when they had RIP and Tayshawn
Vlade needs to know Dallas already had Dennis Smith who had a solid Rookie season… you always take the best player available especially when the player is generational
If u wanna know how tall someone is go to draft combine online they measure players with shoes and without shoes there
You’re fine with Fox. Like had to have Kyrie brought I to help him. And last time I saw neither one has a championship.
U can tell they’re really friends off camera too.
Why are we leaving the Suns out of this conversation. They definitely should’ve been the 1st pick. One of his national team coaches was on staff and Booker played better off the ball when he had a decent NBA point guard. This would could have been a perfect fit for both. They wouldn’t have to spend big money on CP3, kept Cam and Bridges, and find a free agent big that meshed more with the offense than Ayton. The team would be probably be still be roughly in take to this day especially considering they got rid of their 3 young players in such a short span
Vlade basically did to luka what the lakers did Kobe when he was drafted and vlade was de'aaron
The Mavs had no problem getting rid of the PG they drafted the year before for Luka
Jt was 6'6 when we was in high school
The REEEEAL reason Vlade didn’t draft Luka, is that Vlade and Luka’s father have beef that dates back to the 80s & 90s back in Europe. They hated eachother
Not true, divac didnt have enough standing to draft the euro guy over ncaa guy weve seen compared to ofther draft picks
It's the NBA. If you can draft a future hall of famer you do it. Doesn't matter the need. NBA you're lucky if you get two hall of famers in a draft. Most championship teams have two hall of famers on it.
fox's best teammate for the first 3-4 years before sabonis and hali were buddy hield and marvin bagley no way in hell you can expect him to carry sacarmento to anything vlade threw him under the bus
It's NOT the worst. Remember Portland making the same mistake in 1984? Apparently they already had a 2 guard in Clyde so the drafted Sam Bowie instead of MJ
They always cap on height. It doesn't matter though, what matters is if you can hoop
ya'll got sac fucked up mannnnnnnnn
Pretty sure he was implying that Fox's career was going to get better, not be better than Doncic's.
“ HEYYYYYYYYYYY hey Lexi….. hoo ha.. i was know oh oh oh oh if you’ll be my girl@ lol
Look at the Mavs when they traded for Luka in the draft. They drafted Dennis Smith Jr. 1 year before Luka and planned to have him as their starting pg but once they saw Luka with their own eyes, they gave Luka the ball. The Kings could have done the same thing but they are stupid if it wasn’t Divacs personal issues with Luka’s dad. But I definitely wasn’t complaining about their stupidity as a Mavs fan
Is Luka the same guy either the same amount of success with him not being on the Mavs and going to a different situation.
Side question: what team do you think he would’ve turned out bad/ineffective on
Don't forget Portland and Jordan