What's So Good About Pirate Radio?
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- Опубліковано 11 лис 2016
- Pirate radio is illegal but that doesn't make it bad. We talk to a real radio pirate and learn of all the good things that come from this illegal activity.
Special thanks to Bill Milosz
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References:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirate_radio
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_broadcasting
www.wbur.org/news/2014/05/14/pirate-radio
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mbanna_Kantako
diymedia.net/audiovideo-library/mbanna-kantako
audionoir.com/
www.npr.org/2012/12/12/167091866/radio-pirates-used-medium-as-an-organizing-tool
You didn't show his face, but you showed his house. Good job 👍
Not to mention he lives in one of the the takeoff runway paths from O'Hare.
@@sheiladawg1664 Might as well have shown his face lmao, we already know so much
Who cares its not like he's manufacturing meth or something. He is only broadcasting on a radio station that can't interrupt any other stations and his signal only travels about a mile.....
Therefore no one really gives a rats ass. They could have shown his face and every blemish on it and still nothing would happen
@@flyineyeaerialfpv5592 yeah, he does use a vacant frequency, so I think that should be legal enough
@@catchyname4353 awesome. Probably better than most known stations
I think this is great! I wish there were more quality radio stations, not 10 different pop stations...
Indeed. A great Alternative rock station was taken out for a sports channel. Now my state has nothing but rap, pop, and sports. Thank god for SiriusXM! Now if only I can get my internet radio up that doesn't play the same songs every 30 minutes :p
John Matthews I built and operate 15O Watt F M Radio Station 1O7.3 FM THE PIRATE...!!! YARGH !!!
Dallas has rap, pop, and what seems like 30 Hispanic language speaking only stations. This is where a thumb drive and a radio with a USB port comes in handy.
He doesn't want to be recognized because all his listeners are near his neighborhood.
**They proceed to show his fuckin' house!**
London has a lot of pirate radio stations, still. Mostly grime, house and British hip hop.
The most famous period was in the 60s though. That was before popular music was played on the BBC. Radio Caroline was so famous that when it finally was shut down some of its DJs went to work for the new BBCR1.
And Sealand.
Government Radio tends to be boring or unimaginative so it's not surprising. Radio Caroline was fascinating. Had I been working there, I would have probably been throwing up between records due to seasickness (LOL).
Quality public service. I run a FM pirate station playing public bands and solo artists as they deserve a voice too.
are you in London area ?
The timing of this video is interesting, because some friends and I just started a little pirate radio outfit in our small town where we do old-style radio dramas and feature local bands live. It's a BLAST.
"So the FCC won't let me be or let me be me so let me see..."
The laws need to be re-written to say that your allowed to broadcast on any frequency in that spectrum as long as you don't interfere with someone else and keep your power under the same level that licensed commercial stations are allowed to use.
The current situation enables the rich, which creates radio monopolies. It completely shuts out everyone else.
Those rules already apply to the Amateur Radio Service--except that there is a specific rule against broadcasting on the amateur bands to protect the rich commercial radio stations from competition from amateurs.
I've supported an Amateur Broadcast Service for years, but it is unlikely to ever happen.
I have an amateur radio license, and on that end of the spectrum, some people are courteous and follow the rules and others will just try to transmit over your signal. When radio isn't regulated it gets chaotic. A common thing on amateur radio is something called a "pile-up" where you will have dozens of people trying to talk on the same frequency. If broadcast radio was deregulated this kind of stuff would happen there too.
Joe is exactly right, there would be chaos. You wouldn't be able to hear your favorite station in all the noise. Besides, those with the most money would still buy whatever they needed to stay on top of that noise. A Kentucky station, WLW, once ran 500,000 watts until the Canadians complained. You could've probably heard the station through your teeth.
hakachukai any one from the uk and remember how great pirate radio is over here who watched that pirate documantrey on the I player
No, spectrum simply does NOT work that way. It would be the same as saying "You are allowed to shoot anyone in the head with a shotgun at point blank range as long as you don't disturb them." I have a radio license, it costs $15 initially and $10 every *TEN YEARS*
I love Shortwave Radio. When I was little, a family friend gave me a big old tube radio, and I was spellbound to hear all the other countries. Today there aren't nearly as many long range broadcasts, but I can also listen to the "Hams", which are nice folks within 1,000 miles. Thanks for this "Good Stuff".
=Maine=
The fact that this gentleman is doing both traditional radio and streaming is pretty cool. Best of both worlds
30watts and only a mile! Ermmm something is not right there!
Me thinks he's under exaggerating his range
@@CaptainDominic And power .
Did you see the antenna?
@ time stamp?
@@PracticalTacticalSheepDog Within the first 3 minutes.
This was delightful! Pirate Radio is doing a good service! Unless they are blocking out other stations or being jerks... then that's no good!
We need more pirate stations, because commercial radio really sucks. At least pirate radio gives the people what they want.
I'm all for it. I'm a Ham operator, and love talking on the radio. To create a pirate radio station and gather a following on it, im all for. Not all Hams feel this way, but so long as the content is not offensive, or dangerous to society, or stepping over an established station, I say go for it.
Dominic Racca I'm a ham too and I'm in the same boat as you I say let the pirates play as long as it is not offensive and under a certain power level of say 30 watts
Wait till someone has a pirate tv station! You can get analog equipment cheap and somebody is going to see it eventually.
Pirates are the best broadcasters, there is such a large monopoly on transmission its stupid, also at what point does audio fall under freedom of speech?
I don't think a blur like that hides much of his identity. Sure, i wouldn't pick him out on the street right away, but I have a good idea of what he looks like.
And there's enough footage of his house to locate it.
There are enough clues in the video to find Bill using freely available online records. It took me less than a minute to get his full name, address, phone number, and email address. If anyone complains to the FCC, they'll have no problem finding him. As long as he's broadcasting decent material and not causing harmful interference, there's really no reason to complain. If a station starts using the same frequency legally in his area, that would likely result in an interference investigation. If his equipment isn't working correctly and starts interfering with nearby frequencies or harmonic frequencies, that would also likely get him in trouble. In the meantime, I suggest leaving him alone.
took me less than a minute to get his full name, address, phone number, and email address...how?
With a coverage area that small, it'd take less than an hour to find his transmitter (and thus him) with nothing more than a receiver and a directional antenna. One of the ironies of radio is that a weaker signal is easier to find than a booming one--provided you can hear it in the first place.
@Syed:
OSINT
Heh - electromagnetic booty.
Anyone remember the movie "Pump Up The Volume" about pirate radio? good times
That was a stupid movie. The FCC does not have big, conspicuous radio-detection vans as portrayed in that movie. You would not know an FCC agent's vehicle if you saw it. They use plain unmarked cars and the RF sniffer is a handheld device. Also, the idea of evading the trackdown by having the station in a moving vehicle has been tried, and it didn't work.
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Small local radio (1 mile) is usually legal without a license, but I understand how a huge city like Chicago might have all the frequencies taken.
That was some Good Stuff! Happy to be a Patron!!!
Gorgeous stuff, guys :) one of my favorite channels on UA-cam
I'm actually tempted to start my own little pirate radio station. Unfortunately, I really don't have the money for a transmitter or an antenna, but I _could_ possibly build my own.
first video i watched by this channel.
a really nice video about a very interesting topic.
subscribed! :)
really fascinating video, thanks for the great content!
As always money, money, money. These licenses for channels need to be set up so that if they are not used they are revoked and put to bid back to the public for bid. Similar to how the government sells oil leases. This will prevent huge companies from buying the frequency only to drive the market to their station on another channel. That would drive the cost down for folks to get licensed.
I'm very happy you guys are still around!!!!
When I was in Maine in the early 1990's, we would listen to Pirate Radio USA on the weekends (Not much to do in the Air Force in Aroostook County near Limestone in Loring AFB)
What burned me is when the 97.9 frequency was sold to K-Love up in Chicago. "97.9, The Loop" was a Rock-n-Roll Institution for 44 years there. Cumulus Media had a LMA with the owner, Merlin Media to operate 97.9, The Loop. The Loop's Programming was moved to 101.1 WKQX HD-2, and streaming. K-Love already had another signal in the market. They paid 21.5 million for that 97.9 license! Doubt they will ever in our lifetime give that up! People on other UA-cam Videos have asked how to sabotage their studio to transmitter link. Since the FCC did away with the "main studio" requirements, they must be getting their programming from their network off satellite in California and rebroadcasting at the Sears Tower. Bet the place is guarded to the Max! My point here is don't think you're going to afford to by a existing FM License in the Chicago Market!
The good stuff. Living up to your name.
Really awesome video & content. So damn interesting every time.
Cool stuff! I really enjoyed this.
you guys should do a video on amateur (ham) radio. if you haven't already done it. Its an interesting service with tons of different aspects to it besides just talking back on forth with voice or Morse code. I have been a ham for years. its awesome.
"You can't stop the signal." :-)
So you don't show his face but tell his name and show where he lives?
what logic is that for safety against police
Scratch that
Very helpful Thank You
Old time radio and pirate radio together! Wow my two favorite things! Cool video.
Anyone know what program this is? 7:00
Here in the states the FCC does allow license-free broadcasting, at 100 Milliwatts, that's one tenth of a watt. Doesn't sound like much but if done right, especially in AM, a 100 milliwatt signal could cover a couple of miles. Then the station could easily and inexpensively supplement that abbreviated coverage with an Online stream of their on-air signal, Coverage problem solved. You CAN be in the airwaves, but at the same time eliminate any worries of potential trouble from the authorities by playing by the FCC rules and regulations of Part-15 broadcast operations. Another great thing is that unlike LPFM which must operate as non-profit, there are no restrictions in ad content in Part-15 broadcasting.
really nice video. it was quite sweet seeing the radio guy talk and he seemed to really enjoy. you interviewed well and without presumptions. I like that that you didn't make it seems like he was a terrible guy. cause he is doing really nothing wrong
As a kid in Iowa we used to listen to Beaker Street and Beaker Theater being broadcast out of Little Rock, Arkansas... when the weather was just right.
I'm going to make a radio station that plays nothing but dank memes 24/7.
When I have to, I use a tiny FM transmitter just to listen to music in my friends' older cars. Funnily enough, 89.7 is one of the quiet enough frequencies that's usable for such a purpose. 90.7 and 88.7 are a couple others if you're ever in the area and need to know.
Extreme Measures that's not illegal
I didn't say it was. It was just a funny happenstance I thought I'd share.
I would actually like to buy one, but is the price worth it? I'm afraid it's a bad quality
I'd say it's worth it. You can get a pretty good one for less than $20, as I did.
What is the na,e of the track at 0:50 sec?
very interesting, cool job
In Australia, we have three categories(I don't use the term "class" as implies quality often absent from one of these categories) of radio station, A] National, non-commercial, ABC and SBS(though SBS was allowed to run ads on its TV network). B] Commercial, licences priced in the millions of dollars but the quality of content....now you know why I use the term "category". C] Community, licences are free but there are strings attached. No private individual can own a Community station, it belongs to the region it's meant to serve and is run by a committee and staffed by volunteer presenters, of which I was, once.
As long as they aren't interfering with other stations, i really don't see much of a problem.
I'm not gonna lie, a small part of me was hoping to see some mention of the movie Pirate Radio haha. (I'm kinda obsessed with it)
Me too!
As long as you're under 100 watts, not broadcasting over state lines, not advertising, and not broadcasting over licensed broadcasters, you're all good. The trick is to stay out of the FCC's jurisdiction.
What I learned over time. The trick with fm used to be have a frequency higher on the band so it wouldn’t interfere with anyone else. However as everyone else had the same idea, the. You then get problems
5:23 I live in West Palm Beach, FL and I've heard a Haitian pirate radio station around here before. I haven't listened to radio as much over the past couple of years, but I used to tune into it for short periods while driving. I obviously didn't understand anything they were saying, and it wasn't my style of music (not saying it was bad music by any means), but I thought it was pretty cool nonetheless.
This is kind of awesome. Really interesting.
Would you go so far as to call it Good Stuff?
Andy Lord Yeah, it's good. I'd even call it great.
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I like the idea of a pirate station. I am a active ham operator and I hear lots of violations on the bands. Now in my opinion local radio is dead. The only way for big time operators to make money is getting their signal into your car radio. This creates a niche for the pirate station that is after the people at the home market. So I can understand this guy's setup. He can't invade into vehicles audio systems with 30 watts. The locals that due enjoy his material might send him some donations from time to time and that will help him keep going. Big time radio is only interested in getting in your car or your smart phone. Pirate radio will only get better as corporate radio becomes so stale you can't stand it. Rock on pirate we are not all rich.
All part of control and censorship, from radio and TV to UA-cam and facebook... Watch the movie 1984 sometime and you will see where the world is going..
I like it. Good for him!
I think you'll find places where 30 Watts is going 20 miles, even further! Well done with the video.
As long as people "keep it reasonable" and don't try to jam everyone else on the air, I'm all for unlicensed radio use, be that Baofengs or my local pirate radio station
You are right so right. I'm an audio noir listener/fan and do listen to go sleep.
The FCC fines have gone up to $2M now. But I feel that will not change anything as to taking down more pirate radio stations. Last I checked only in 2 states in USA you can go to jail for running a pirate radio station.
We had one down in Winston called free
Radio.
Wow cool! I want to make my own pirate radio station now.
We had a pirate radio station here in my city. It was on for about a week before they got busted.
Are there any pirate stations on the now under-used AM frequency? What kind of equipment would that take compared to FM?
I don't think you need any special equipment. AM is lower quality, but is cheaper and goes further. From google: "The difference is in how the carrier wave is modulated, or altered. With AM radio, the amplitude, or overall strength, of the signal is varied to incorporate the sound information. With FM, the frequency (the number of times each second that the current changes direction) of the carrier signal is varied."
It's actually quite a bit more difficult to get an AM pirate station on the air than an FM one, but not for the reasons you'd think:
The equipment isn't difficult to obtain (or build if you're reasonably skilled with a soldering iron), but the antenna required to get out even a few blocks on the AM broadcast band is absolutely huge.
In a very basic sense, an antenna needs to be 1/2 wavelength long in order to create gain--that is to radiate more energy than is being fed into it. At 87.9 MHz, a 1/2 wavelength antenna is 5.3 ft. long, whereas a dipole antenna for 1,000 KHz (1 MHz) in the AM broadcast band is 468 ft. long.
You can see the challenge there. If you try to use a shorter antenna, you can make it work, but it radiate a signal with less power than you're using to drive it (loss instead of gain) and so will require that you pump more power, more than double in fact, into it in order to get similar results, meaning you need a larger and far more expensive amplifier. There are other challenges too, like an antenna for the AM broadcast band tends to emit most if it's signal straight up into the air if it's less than 1/2 wavelength off the ground (again, that's 468 feet)
So yeah, all that adds up to make it far easier to pirate on FM than AM. :)
The difference between AM, FM, and SSB: With FM, the neighbors hear a loud buzz in equipment receiving interference. With SSB, they hear "Donald Duck": something that sounds like a voice but makes utterly no sense. With AM, they hear you clear as a bell on everything: The TV, the radio, the telephone lines, the computer speakers, etc.
That's how mudducks and maul droppers get busted.
LimitedOptionsMan if the transmitter is built well and properly grounded, that won't happen. I can run a couple of kilowatts on the amateur shortwave bands without bothering anyone.
You and I both know that isn't true because no electric device is built with shielding any more, and amplifiers are going to amplify and rectify. Grounding has nothing to do with RFI. The RFI exists because the device has insufficient shielding and picks up any RF in the air, rectifies it and amplifies it, resulting in undesired operation. The FCC warned everyone about it decades ago, and sides with the licensed transmitter operator because many equipment designs simply had no RF filters.
If grounding had anything to do with it (and it doesn't), then a well grounded station would put more RF into the air. A perfect counterpoise maximizes the efficiency and predictability of the radiator. Grounding is just to take advantage of the fact that you've put down radials to dissipate induced static electricity over a wider area than normal.
And no, you can't run a few kilowatts on the amateur bands. 1,500 watts PEP or RMS is the maximum.
lol 89.7 is a legit radiostation where I'm from
Great video but I have to say that Part-15 compliance is legal for the typical hobby broadcaster... while under 30w is illegal 500mw is not, in fact 250 microvolts per meter is the maximum for unlicensed operation.
We need to set aside 87.5, 87.7 and 87.9 for armature broadcasters of 5 watts or less.
anything under 92 MHz is supposed to be for LPFM non commercial use in the US but the FCC does not enforce that either. Broadcast bands are prime real estate for the FCc and networks.
If they live so close they will recognize his house.
Can you do what whatever you want if you don't go over 500 watts?
I have had a low powered radio station since 1997 when I was a kid someone gave me a low powered transmitter and now I have grown to the point I have sponsorship and started a second low powered station one plays music another is all talk
@Frost - I trigger keyboard warriors. Lol lol I don't know but I doubt it lol
You'll hear music that will expand ur mind frm the same worn out 100 songs on corporate radio
Is it technically illegal to use car radio transmitters that broadcast music from your phone to your car?
Player 2, the zone it covers are in feet more then blocks.
with the internet and the advent of things like spotify, apple/android car play more and more radio stations die. when those stations die, a big station picks up that open airspace leaving no room for the small guys. I personally think as radio continues to grow smaller and smaller as far as individual radio station go away, the big radio corps should only be allowed to purchase a small portion of that band, leave the rest open for the pirate radio.
As soon as the IOT takes over traditional radio, the massive blank spaces left behind unused should be allowed to be used freely and openly much like a public roadway. sure keep the roads clean and fix the potholes damaging the community, but let anyone access that public roadway.
Love it keep on keeping on the air waves.k rock classic oldies. K rock classic oldies at U tube
pirate radio stations doesn't harm anyone as long as the intent of the radio station really serves the public very well.. only the corporate radio networks does doing harm against these micro radio stations because of their greed for money and impending competition from them..
Great video! However, I don't think the background music fits very well with the typical mood of this channel. When you brought back the usual music at the end, it felt very much more like a GS video.
Right on
Shortwave pirate radio is alive as well, especially on the East Coast. Not just FM but alot of weekend shortwave too!!!
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Gun Crazy at 3:00. I've reviewed that and the remake.
Silent disco party's in the park, everyone wears headphones and dances.
An FM broadcast of 30 Watts arguably is not even under the Federal Government's jurisdiction. Shortwave and mediumwave by contrast involve international agreements. In past decades the feds have paid very little attention to FM pirates, but I hear that there is a real crackdown now.
Graffiti writers also do it “because they can”.
Somehow I do question the very relevance of pirates on the radio spectrum today given all the major game changing technological advances in mobile telephone ,internet and wi Fi which in my view is slowly but surly rendering the traditional AM FM radio spectrum as moot.
look at it like this. if the cell phones, internet go out for whatever reason the big networks stations will also go down because they rely on the internet to stream music and get scripted MSM news from. A pirate station does not follow the normal rules of broadcasting, there is no script and their equipment can be anywhere from DIY homebrew transmitters built from old TV and CB radio sets to something bought off ebay from China. most all is portable and very mobile and require at least 12 VDC to run and produce well beyond 50 watts RF out.. Now lets say SHTF and all the major networks fail, where will you get your news and info from? Those pirate stations may still be operating and can be a valuable resource. Sure you will have people chime up with ham radio this and ham radio that but seriously, how many people KNOW how to dial in a specialized ham radio to a frequency that is not very publicly known to receive news? There is a logical use and need for independent pirate stations especially after some disaster like a hurricane or massive earthquake when the big stations tower gets knocked out..
Sounds like fun to me.
"I'm an insomniac so I started my own radio station"..
Most others just smoke a little indica and turn the light out...
I heart radio is killing the good radio stations. Play the same stuff as they do everywhere in the country. Pirate radio is what we need.
yes sir fuck iheartradio
wouldn't any one around the area instantly know where this was filmed?
It's legal if you do it on the right frequency
If you wonder why you need a license to broadcast look up Father Conklin.
The Airwaves belong to all.
Well, that explains why the criminal element calls the police, 5-O.
I learned how to saftey loose weight from a pirate radio station. My doctor said that the CDC has blocked these herbal remedies and warned me that I could go to jail if I supported such people 🥺 But the weight stayed off and my health drastically improved 😃
How does Bill handle his public distribution of copyrighted works? It would seem this would be a greater consideration than breaking FCC rules.
I kept waiting for someone to walk by through the window. 😩
Under 30 Watts and antenna height of 40 feet and he only gets a range of about a mile?? Yeah, right. Say he transmits with 5 Watts at that antenna height in an urban setting he should get at least a 10 mile radius.
That does sound like maybe 99% of his signal is being lost before it gets to the antenna? I've personally seen a handheld FM transmitter running ONE watt into a 3' antenna inside an apartment on the second floor going almost that far.
I had a Pirate Radio Mobile station I used to do for Trucking events used to push one watt of power and I would get a 5-mile radius out of it.
Likely poor ground plane grounding and antenna VSWR loss.
EdEditz he’s probably trying to make it seem smaller than it is so no one complains
5 watts get me a solid 4 miles and 7 miles fringe. 30 foot mast with a tuned half wave dipole and Andrews RG-6 cable. It's all in the calculations. No magic here.
Arghhh and shiver me timbers. OK... I feel better now. ;-)
when the fcc took away the old low power stations , (less than 1000 watst, they took away the comunitys voice. now with lo power fm this can help. however as the in the interview , niche stations fill in a important void.
pirate radio hek ya
I could get that Haitian station all the way in lynn, like 15 miles away!
In my area (upstate New York) there are not many rock stations at all that play heavy metal! I miss living in North Carolina for that same reason, because down there I listened to a station out of Greensboro that played nothing BUT classic 1980s heavy metal and newer hard rock bands like Nickelback, Seether and so on! And like I say now that I am back in New York there isn't snot on the radio worth tuning into! Other than lame top 40 stations, current hip hop and pop garbage or country stations are all we have to chose from in our area!! And making this all worse yet back when bands like Scorpions, Def Leppard, Twisted Sister and more were all the rage, there was still NO radio stations at the time that would play THAT music either even though with my generation it was totally popular to listen to Iron Maiden, Metallica, Megadeth and ManOwar! So the only thing we could do was buy and make our own cassette tapes (which I have thousands of) and play them in our cars and on our home stereos, then later in the mid 1990s that really changed to CDs when computers and CD burners became the normal standard! Of course I am aware that some rock songs you still can't play on the radio station air waves! Like Iron Maiden's Number of The Beast which to me is just silly, even by today's standards where they are allowed to curse on TV to an extent! But outdated rules still regulate what you can and can't play as well too! And honestly on that note it makes me wonder if anybody is considering "pirate Television channels, because again in my area there is a host of analog station space that is no longer used thanks to the Federal Government RULING that we all "have to have" HD television by law which killed the few "over the air" TV broadcasters in my area we had in the first place! And speaking of that, in my area we could only pick up two maybe (and that is a huge MAYBE) three stations at all, just because of the rolling hills of Upstate New York where I live! So it would be interesting to see pirate radio joined with a pirate TV station! But perhaps I am thinking to far into this!!!! In any case I since moved most of my own record collection to digital format and my truck has a stereo in it now that plays music from an SD card OR a flash drive, so I can listen to almost my complete music collection when I want where ever I want, and with that I seldom flip the switch to radio, because like TV it has way too many commercials anymore for my liking either!! Sadly to me radio died in the 1980s when I lived in Ithaca New York and I used to listen to the last "decent" radio station at the time WSYR FM Syracuse also known as 94 Rock!!! So too me New York has nothing for rock stations or even good music stations, so there is no point in a stereo having a radio in the first place!!!
Thats right. Seize the little guys radio equipment so we can ensure the continuance of radio monopolies and their advertising and political agendas. Of course forget about anti-trust to bust them up. No selective enforcement of the law going on. Go back to sleep, nothing to see here.
what about those fm transmitters on amazon are those illegal?
like the 100 feet ones
No they are not.
I sometimes heard some Pirate radio on FM and MW advising some fake products or fake medicine all day long😫👎(those are really wasting radio band), but the station in the video don't sounds bad at all.😂
I live in a big metro area with no rock stations. All country all the time
Dallas or Houston?