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Best Offensive Armor Skills Comparison - Monster Hunter Now
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- Опубліковано 13 сер 2024
- Looking at the best armor skills in Monster Hunter Now!
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0:00 Intro
1:34 Attack Boost
1:53 Critical Eye
2:18 Weakness Exploit
2:52 Lock On
3:09 Burst
3:33 Special Boost
3:55 Element Attack
4:47 Wrap
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From the looks of it, there ARE no elemental hitzones in this game. Element is simply "conditional" raw. If the monster is weak to an element, the element value simply gets added to the raw to get the final overall attack, then motion values are applied, and the final damage calculated based on that. This makes element equally important on all weapons.
This is correct, it is essentially doubling your raw when they are weak.
Hey hunter rank 74 and 8 stars monster hunter here, just a quick note to all of you, start building elemental gear and wepons, atk boost and crit eye are only the cherry on top in later hunts but never worth it if you sacrifice element up for it. Element up is the only way to kill 8 star monsters and above. I see a lot of videos where its mentioned that the rathalos mail is the singel best armor piece and should never be swapped and while its very good its not worth it if u need elemet up but cant get it because you refuse to take it off. English is not my first language so sry for any mistakes :D
Interesting... thanks!
But i don't really have the time and resources to invest into more than 1 elemental weapon. Kulu longsword alone is already difficult enough to upgrade. I know elemental weapon is stronger but that's just not a practical and realistic strategy for casual players. I heard that they are adding decorations to this game in the future, my bet is that they are going to add crit boost decorations so that my high affinity will pay off when the update happens
So you’re saying I won’t be able to kill 8 star monsters with girros SnS g7 5/5 even if I’m a skilled player?
Don't generalize, because raw damage will still do the job when using Greatsword or Hammer (Blos Hammer exists for a reason). GS the most economic weapon while hammer is more forgiving.
Me gs main
Me build big raw
Me hit big hard
Dude, I was looking for this! My friends and I play Monster Hunter pretty often, but they didnt like Now so I'm climbing the ranks solo, and when I got to 4-5 stars I started to feel the difficulty spike rising. There should be more tutorials for the meta of this game. Its surprising there isnt more
Haha, I felt the same! Had to think and figure this out myself so might as well post it!
Rising tide is such an underrated ability. Especially in later fights when you definitely are not beating the monsters fast
I'm really feeling that five-star wall right now. I started the game going for the paralysis sword and shield and a divine blessing set but at the point I am right now I literally cannot kill a five-star monster with more than 5-10 seconds on the clock remaining. Even if I play absolutely perfectly. Couldn't even enjoy the diablos event because there wasn't enough time to kill him I would always fail the fight with him having around 5% of his health left.
Yeah, I find there’s a bit of a chicken and egg paradox too. Once I could make the diablos hammer things changed completely but I needed to push my para hammer as far as I could to even kill enough diablos. Doesn’t help making a mistake sits you down for too long to try again.
Diablos was probably the worst monster they could've used for that opening event:
- A 5* mon, the second to last unlock which means a lot of players wont even have it yet.
- Only 2 weaknesses: Para and Ice (We don't count Dragon)
Para is, as you said, probably not enough to kill for most players at this level, and if you didn't build an ice weapon yet your probably gonna fail most hunts.
- Only has craftable weapon (Hammer) (Edit: It's 2 forget about Bow, sry.)
- Hits like a truck, one failure and you either have to wait for 18min or drink a potion. Which options sounds better in a 3h time window event?
It's as if this was done to see how many current players are willing to buy potions.
Great video! Thanks for those breakdowns! Well I myself Im not a math surgeon but I’m finding Rising Tide to be a great DPS boost on my hunts. It’s super cheap and accessible on craft. Very affordable way to boost your damage. I’m also liking burst as well. I don’t have all the elemental up gauntlets yet so I sub in the Rathian gauntlets for burst. It’s really easy to proc constantly with bow.
I’d just finished mathing out rising tide as I’d forgot about it. It’s very strong, 30 attack after 25 seconds and 60 after 50 seconds for just one point! I think 1 weakness exploit is better if you have more than 600 attack but rising tide is a must use!
@@AifritGaming Hawt damn! Well until you can actually make those Rathalos pieces, rising tide is hugely affordable in comparison. Thanks again for the math and specifically on this too!
Best options would be
Rathalos head(Atkup) - Rathalos\Leather Mail(WEvsATKup) - Rathian Gloves(Lock on) - Anjanath Waist (Special Boost)- Rathalos legs (WE)
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Rising Tide turns out to be incredibly powerful, level 1 provides 30 attack after 25 seconds and 60 attack after 50 seconds!
Peak Performance is also an option if you don't get hit and stay at max health for 30 attack.
Element appears to be completely different in this game so the assessment is not correct. Element attack seems like it is always worth it given you're matching up weaknesses correctly.
I forgot to mention it but Critical Eye can be found on Leather Headgear, and Kulu head hands and feet.
if level 1 of rising tide gives 30 attack at 25 sec. what does level 2 give? im asking because I want to know if its worth getting jagras chest up to grade 6 for the two rising tides buff. also I might try to get 3 levels with the jagras waist. awesome video by the way.
Glad to see your recent Rising Tide vid. But how about the "Offensive Guard" skill? I haven't seen much guides/builds so far regarding it.. Doesn't it give a pretty decent attack% increase?
@@darkling6655 I don’t know! I have to unlock it to find out and I’ve got no zenny left right now haha.
@@darkling6655It's something like this, at 25 secs into the hunt...
Level 1: 30. L2: 50. L3: 70. L4: 90. LV5: 110-120.
Then each level doubles at 50 secs.
That background gameplay is insanely good🔥
Now that Black Diablos released you can get Partbreaker 5, which increases damage to breakable parts by 40%, you also get new skill called Resentment 3 which increases Attack Power by 20% for 15 seconds when you take damage. Then the set comes with Heroics 2 which also increases Attack Power by 20% when hp is less than 30%.
Lastly the Black Diablos weapons have the highest base Attack Power but in exchange they come with -30% Affinity
Interesting, I never found any black diablos but the gear and weapon seem very strong!
@@AifritGaming They appeared extremely rarely on the Diablos invasion event. Like from 1-4pm last Sunday
UH brilliant question?
Partbreaker always worked like a softener. Displayed dmg in MHW and MHR was higher but didn't do more dmg to the monster. It was just so that every part has HP till it breaks. So you do more dmg against that parts HP and not more dmg in general. It's weird I know. So I wonder if we do actually more dmg "now".
Any opinion on rising tide? Do you know if it is a % boost or a flat boost per level? Also do you know if the first and second trigger in a hunt stack additively or multiplicatively?
Hey great point I’d forgot about this one. From my testing it seems to be a flat and equal boost for the first and second trigger. However it’s hard to pin point the exact amount it is increasing by as hit zones and motion values are a little nebulous. I’m guessing it’s like 20 attack each trigger at level 1. If true this seems extremely strong. I’ll have to dig in more!
It is 30 attack per tier at level 1!
@AifritGaming Holy smokes that's huge! Thanks for the followup!
It's something like this, at 25 secs into the hunt...
Level 1: 30. L2: 50. L3: 70. L4: 90. LV5: 110-120.
Then each level doubles at 50 secs.
It depends on the weapon type, flat damage is good for fast weapons while percent damage is good for weapons that deals high damage in single strike. As a greatsword main, I have soloed a Diablos decently with just Barroth GS 4 5/5 using Critical Eye 3.
I don't think this is true for attack. The main thing that should matter is the expected overall damage increase from receiving the stats. Affinity will provide a decent amount of variance especially at low values but the averaged percentage increase can be calculated by taking your affinity and multiplying it against 25% (the increase in damage from criting). So with 20% affinity from CE in your case, it is 0.2 x 25 = 5% expected overall damage increase over time. This can then be enumerated to attack by comparing it to having 5% more attack all the time. So at say, 600 attack, the 20% affinity is worth about 30 attack.
@@AifritGamingThat's just also false, you're evaluating crit chance value as flat number, which is false by default. Sometimes you crit 3 times in a row sometimes you don't. It's that simple, the 20% crit chance is not something to be calculated because it's literally RNG. 1.25 is the base value of a crit attack in MonHon and 600*1.25 is 750 raw attack damage. The real value of crit eye in MHNow is that you can always hunt again so as long as you have HP. If you're really lucky with crits, you can beat monsters that is above your level just like what I said that I beat Diablos solo even if I only beat Anjanath Chapter.
Critical Eye is just the most economic damage boost when you're using heavy raw weapons for the late game scaling so you won't have to blow your money for multiple armors and weapons.
They need to update the LBG recoil and reload speed, they don't have a sheet to look at, like in the mainline MH.
Everyone talking about element builds. But my question is what other choice is there? Ive got water fire and electric +3 from my armor set and i been switching weapons every monster since i started the game. I never saw the point of making a raw build when there's only 4 elements and almost all the monsters weak to atleast one
It's just a matter of having the materials in the early game to build out 4 different weapons. Specializing element weapons ends up being the way to go in the late game so if you feel like you're already doing well with that then that's pretty ideal.
I was actually just thinking bout my comment earlier and was thinking maybe I sounded like a asshole. When I only meant I had been doing 1 of every element the whole time and that I keep on my element up cause they was necessary to progress. I think I hit legiana and I needed to get anjananth sword plus fire element up just to stand a chance. I found it extremely hard to progress with poison para or raw
Oh, nah nothing wrong with the comment hah. Yeah if you start investing in element early you’ll get some huge power bumps especially if you get the element attack to 4 or 5.
I wont ever play this since it does not appeal to me, but thank you for explaining what burst does! Other content creators haven’t bothered to and it left me wondering if it acted like it does in SB
What about Rising Tide? It gets a lot of DPS on longer hunts, which are the more difficult ones.
Have a video just about it on the channel!
I'm all about that sneak attack with my hammer
lol
Really enjoying the game so far mainly in a multiplayer way and would love to see more about it :D so far im going for SNS with Divine Blessing as armor skills to be able to go on longer hunts without having to use up all potions.. tho now with unlocking 6* that might become more and more tricky :p time to "git gud" 🤣
Yeah the scaling on the damage spikes pretty dramatically. Divine blessing is great as a safety net but I have found keeping up with defense is kind of futile.
@@AifritGaming more damage = shorter hunts
@@AifritGaming yeah starting to see more and more 6* now and having a hard time with dealing enough dmg... mainly when im still missing ore to upgrade my weapon ... in multiplayer its fine but in solo play i will have to look for a few more offensive options .. 🤔
Question on Weakness exploit skill...does that mean there are specific "weak spots" for each of the different monsters or are they the same like the "head"? I'm not quite sure what the game defines as weak spot...
Yeah, "the head" is generally good. Historically, if you see orange numbers you are hitting a weak spot. There's not much defined to know clearly besides that right now.
Could someone explains the "Weak Zones"? Are these the same as the lock-on parts? If so, Lock-on skill becomes very useful and necessary.
The term is pretty vague in Now as the game doesn’t give us specifics on monster hit zones. Generally I’d say a measurement is areas that have orange damage numbers are a weak zone. To break it down:
In Monster Hunter, each monster part has a “hit zone” which has a value associated with it. This value determines how much damage you deal when hitting that part. In the main games, higher than 45 was considered a “weak zone”.
Generally you’ll want to hit the weakest part which is the head most of the time.
Areas that show grey numbers are definitely not a weak spot.
Yes, I think lock on for melee weapons should more or less be essential.
@@AifritGaming interesting!!! Because I thought Damage Calculation is based on a ranged simulation and critical hit is just 25% added after the simulation. So I have always taken "red" as lucky shots/critical shots, because damage do vary a lot when I'm using melee on the same place when monster is stationary. With what you said, I think I'll try to pay more attention to dmg per zones to see if there are truly differences.
of course, lazy way is just to play casually and wait for more information to be released. lol.
why did they make the 1st event 5star? i just unlocked 4star.
What set are you wearing at the moment?
Currently I'm seeing how focus feels at higher levels
Diablos Hammer Rank 5 upgraded 5/5
pukei head for focus and health boost.
Jagras body for rising tide
Rathian gloves for lock on
Ratholas waist for focus
Jyuratodus legs for focus
So far I'm quite liking it and having a hard time removing focus to try other things. Faster level 2 charge gives more opportunities to get in a quick strong attack that follows up really well.
I sometimes swap in diablos legs with slugger and anja body with special boost as those have more defense for me.
When burst triggers and how often during a single hunt? Looks it is random...
Triggers after a certain number of hits and then lasts 5 seconds I think but if you hit again in that 5s it extends it.
I need a armor set that will work till late game I'm lvl 25
So what would be the best Pure DPS build ?
Not sure yet on the combination! Perhaps a future video.
@@AifritGaming looking forward to this then! Can't wait.
@@zamoraivan if ur using an element weapon use element armor, if ur using a raw dmg weapon use critical eye and weakness exploit, use focus if ur using bow (or hammer). Percentage additional dmg (eg. critical eye) are better than raw additional dmg (eg. attack boost)(except if ur using element weapon) because ur adding a percentage of ur total attack while raw dmg just adds a small amount of attack (eg. adding 60 dmg to a 1600 overall weapon)
10% affinity only 2.5%? crit damage not double damage? only 125%?
Yes, crit is 125% in Monster Hunter.
Halloween helemt solo is worth without upgrading or nah?
Never really worth it solo no. Only somewhat decent in a group.
ty@@AifritGaming
How do you have your camera field of view so far behing? Mine is just above my head
Hmm I dunno, I did find myself zoomed before and could pinch to zoom out during combat.
When the hunt starts, do the pinch in gesture with 2 fingers on your screen. Note that this only works with melee I think. Ranged weapons have a fixed FoV.
@@Emeraudus thank You guys, i tried this before but I guess It didnt register correctly. Thank you!
@@Emeraudus I think it might be possible, Ive done it once on bow but i dont know if it was a bug or not
wow cool
Is it 2 person hunting a monster the monster hp will be added or same as solo
No idea on this one, I never see other hunters when I play hahah
ok thx
@@AifritGaming
The more hunters there are in the party, the more hp the monster will have so make sure each hunter carries their weight or there had better be someone really strong to carry the party.
@@bleuetmyrtille Cool! Thanks for sharing! Would you say it feels like the health multiplies by each player like 4x with 4 people? In past games it's more like 2x more health with 4 people.
What gear setups do you recommend for hammer?
At the moment I value Focus a lot because the level 2 charge is a very strong tool. I used para hammer until I got the diablos one. Currently I use
pukei head for focus and health boost.
Jagras body for rising tide
Rathian gloves for lock on
Ratholas waist for focus
Jyuratodus legs for focus
I’m not sure how to quantify the value of focus but I’m starting to believe it’s pretty good.
These are pretty good because they have high defence out of the box
Rath body for weakness exploit
Diablos legs for slugger
Rath head for attack boost 2
@@AifritGaming thanks bro!
@@smcarmel use kulu helm for crit and lock in (so u can focus on hitting the head), rath body for weakness exploit (since head is a weakness point for every monster), and jyura boots for focus lvl2, the others u can use element/crit or use dodge or use more focus
have u tested rising tide on jagras mail? it procs twice: 25s, 50s into the battle, great for that last minute sp attack. is it better than attack boost? i just also run it because its the only use of my jagras mats
Yeah I slept on it, bunch of others also asked. It’s 30 attack per tier so 60 attack after 50s at level 1. Hoping to make a video on it soon. It’s very good, only weakness exploit 1 pulls ahead as attack exceeds 600.
Did you forget Optimal Performance ?
Yep I did!! Peak performance does seem pretty good given you just go in and don’t get hit which is common honestly since things mostly basically one shot. Just can be tedious to get back to full health if you do go down.
Idunno. I think attack boost is useless in MHNow
yea its pointless to add 60 dmg to a 1200 attack weapon
It's basically a free 10%-20% attack increase for the early game, it's probably the most important armor skill until you have stronger weapons/better skill options.
60 is 5% of 1200! A point of crit eye is 10% affinity which is about 2.5% gain. With 1200 attack it is basically equivalent to 30 extra attack. Until we get things like crit boost and can fit a ton of skills into the builds, flat damage increases are pretty good. Especially with how large they are currently. No doubt they are less noticeable as you progress further in the game but early game it is massive.
@@AifritGaming its just 5%, kinda useless when u have high lvl weapon
@qwsa3r yeah that’s totally fair that crit has odds to give much higher upper bounds if lucky. Plus if you don’t get hit you can leave the hunt and keep trying for that lucky attempt.
Black diablos Weapon, Diablos helm Black diablos mail diablos vambraces black diablos coil rathalos legs
Heroics 5, lock on 1, resentment 2, weakness exploit 1, firm foothold 1, fire res 1
on level 6 this gives you a 1213 attack (whereas 755 is already a lot) plus partbreaker!
but now youre asking... getting hit under 30 % on that level is risky! then i got just the build for you
Diablos weapon Diablos helm, Legiana mail Diablos vambraces Paolumu Coil and black diablos legs
Heroics 5, Divine blessing 4 , windproof 1, offensive guard 1, partbreaker 1
this way staying around 40 health will almost always make you survive, whith divine blessing as a background safety your damage will still be at a whopping 1006
and for fun, if you are level 10 then your black diablos weapon of choice with the risky number 1 option will give you a fucking 3244 while the normal raw of a kulu weapon would be 1675 without buffs...
I dont think affinity works that way, affinity is the percentage of how rarely u get a crit per hit, not dealing extra dmg per 10%
not saying that this vid is bad but ur missing a lot of "offensive" skills
Sorry I kind of quicken the math. For example 10% affinity means 10% of the time you will deal 25% more damage from a crit. Averaged out this amounts to a 2.5% damage increase.
@@AifritGamingsince the element part and the flat part can crit do they crit in a single proc or can they proc just one and not the other ?
If it’s like other games the element part simply cannot crit. Usually you need a skill called critical element to make element also crit. Hypothetically, when you do crit with crit element, both crit at the same time but the crit multipliers are separate (based on level of crit element skill) so they kind of add together after.
@@AifritGaming k mb for misunderstanding
@@AifritGaming what is critical element