I know, I know, some grand seiko enthusiasts may be a bit disappointed in my feedback on the watch. BUT we all have different backgrounds that give us different perceptions on what we think is quality, or value. To me, being a blue collar worker, literally money is more than time at work, when I get home from work and I’m physically sore and filthy and I put my best effort forward to do quality workmanship I expect to trade my money from quality workmanship to buy things of high quality workmanship. I simply didn’t feel I got that with this watch. You don’t have to agree, you can trade your time at work for money and spend it on whatever you like, I’m doing the same and unfortunately a Grand Seiko didn’t meet my expectations.
Как и я зарабатываешь деньги честным трудом. Мне очень нравятся эти часы. Но после вашего обзора задумаюсь несколько раз. Прежде чем купить. Может брак?
@@maxim4849 I did a screen shot of your comment to translate it. Thank you! Yes it was very disappointing of a watch. The cost is over $12,000 USD Я сделал скриншот вашего комментария, чтобы перевести его. Спасибо! Да, часы очень разочаровали. Стоимость более 12000 долларов США
@@alexsystems2001 Like me, you earn money by honest work. I really like this watch. But after your review, I think several times before buying. Maybe factory defective?
I’m sorry you got such a defective watch. Definitely not acceptable. I have a GS. I’ve had no problems at all with the watch and would buy another one without hesitation. I hope your situation gets resolved!
I see no comments from other people agreeing that there's is like this. Seems like an isolated issue. I'll be sure to update when I go to the dealer and see for myself.
I hope nobody else has these problems 😄 this was really a dreamy watch for me and to have the opportunity to afford it was a dream come true too so it was truly a meeting your heroes sort of situation. Fortunately since I bought it new they have their watch back…
It cannot be isolated issue because there too many issues. He listed bracelet we all know as substandard for this price range and basically on the level of a 300$ watch. So all that lose bracelet stuff I believe to be true and I do owe a few grand Seiko so I can confirm that. Bad bad bad cheap bracelets and not elegant at all. The off center thing could be and same with lose pushers. That's what happens when all is hand made and slips quality control. The machine made Rolex or cheap mass produced watches will not have this "human errors" caused when all is hand made.
Thank you for your honestly report on this watch. I have had my eyes on this models for a time now. I really like GS. It would be wery interesting to hear what GS themself says about this. Hope you will report back. Take care
So, someday I’m going to post an update video but for now I’ll try to put it here in the comments. I returned the watch to the dealer to send it in for “service” the understanding was at minimum to replace the bracelet and inspect the loose pushers. The watch departed to go back to Grand Seiko and was in their hands for a bit and came back. The existing bracelet was “repaired” and the whole watch was sent back. So I inspected the returned watch and there was what appeared to be clamp marks on the bracelet. Yes I received paperwork documenting the repair too. So I expressed my displeasure with this being the level of standard for this watch with my dealer and asked for a refund. They said they would need to look into that. So I left that day with the watch quite unhappy. I contacted grand Seiko via the BBB. Grand Seiko/Seiko responded saying that they didn’t really understand the issues I had with the watch and confirmed they repaired the bracelet. However before Seiko replied to my issues my dealer called me and told me to bring it back for a refund. So, essentially it ruined the relationship with my Rolex AD, but I’m happy I’m out from this watch. What a pile. I ended up getting an omega from an omega boutique and everything from the bracelet to the general quality of the rest of the components has been over the top! Very close to the quality of my submariner. Some people have commented if I didn’t notice the clunky bracelet, yes I noticed that when I picked it up, but you expect that, that’s notable in forums and stuff, but I didn’t expect a messed up clasp out of the box, and most people don’t wiggle the crown and pushers in the store, I never thought a loose crown and pushers was a thing. So there it is, the update in a nut shell. For as expensive as it was there are design things you can overlook like the pinned bracelet, but things that just aren’t precise, or made poorly is not cool. I hope you get the watch of your dreams! Thanks for watching.
@@alexsystems2001 For such an expensive watch, i cannot expect such flaw. Japanese are known for their quality. I am very surprised for what you encountered and sad.
I've purchased 5 Grand Seikos and had nothing but great experiences with them. That a GS could be *this* poorly constructed is baffling to me. If I were in your shoes, this would be an instant return.
I certainly understand why you don't like the watch. The uneven gap near the clasp is clearly a defect, and not something that should have been there. But it should be possible to fix. The wiggly pushers don't look good at all. This is a deal breaker that made me lose interest in this particular watch. Thanks for pointing this out. Otherwise I could have bought this and been very disappointed. I don't mind the wiggly crown, since it does not wiggle when screwed in. As for the bracelet and clasp overall, it is certainly not as impressive looking as for example a Rolex of Omega bracelet. But while my Planet Ocean bracelet is not very comfortable, my Grand Seiko bracelets are supremely comfortable on the wrist. What they lack in heft, they make up for in finishing. The polishing and brushing on the links is way beyond what Omega does. And the edges are very smooth, hence to comfort in wearing the GS bracelets. A tip: If you want to see a Grand Seiko bracelet than is more impressive looking, check out one of the Evolution 9 models without the diving style clasp, for example White Birch (SLGA001 or SLGH005). The non-diving clasps feel more solid on all GS models that have them, and the Evolution 9 models have a much thicker bracelet.
Thank you for your comment. Is the non diving style clasp adjustable on the fly? That’s the reason for my like of that clasp, I was spoiled by my on the fly adjustable bracelet on the submariner. I work as a maintenance technician and daily wear my watch so in summer on hot days my wrist tends to grow a bit, so I need to expand the bracelet just a little bit for comfort.
Honestly, I thought about the zenith chronomaster but I repair equipment for a living and so I was worried about the unprotected ceramic bezel, I’ve already broken the pip off my submariner by smacking it on unforgiving surfaces but I think I haven’t chipped the ceramic because on the sub it has that small trim of steel around the bezel, those ceramic bezels are crippling expensive, fortunately the pip was under $200 to be installed by Rolex. I also considered the chromomaster but the bracelet didn’t have the on the fly adjustability. In a lot of environments it’s quite hot and my wrists swell a little bit and if the watch gets too tight I like that I can just make my sub a little bigger and put it back on, I’d be worried with a chronomaster that it would get tight and I’d take it off, set it somewhere and lose it, or worse drop it from a scaffold or something. They are beautiful watches, but I love my submariner. The AD took the Seiko back and when I was in there I held a chronomaster and checked it out but I decided to just hang on to my money before buy another watch.
The micro shots of the bracelet finish especially the clasp are so poor for the price and really i have never been a GS fan even though I have never been any brand nord.
I have owned several rolexes, a Breitling, a Hublot and a few others over the years. I currently have my collection pruned down to one Rolex gold/steel sub with blue dial I have had for about 10 years. I also have 3 pateks, a ulysses nardin white gold diver and a stainless audemar royal oak offshore. I thought I was done with new watches but recently purchased a grand seiko chronograph 253. I had been intrigued by the spring drive since I first learned about it. Obviously, I own some very nice watches. Overall, the Pateks are probably the nicest watches I have ever owned. However, this New Grand Seiko has surprised me with what a cool watch it is. As far as time keeping, after wearing it for close to a month, it was off by just a few seconds. I am used to wearing a larger watch since I have owned a number of sports watches, divers and chronographs so I found the watch very comfortable-the titanium is so light, I forget I have it on. It also is a very nice looking watch. The watch isn’t cheap but is definitely cheaper than my other watches and I find I am wearing it more than the others by far. I have to say that I zero regrets buying the GS-it has been a welcome addition to my collection
Sounds like you need a new authorized dealer. Like every 1 in 10 guys who spend $10,000 on a watch get a lemon. That's the way it seems. Rolex, Omega? It doesn't matter. It just seems like the dealers should see the defects before selling them.
Thank you, yes I’m sure it was a genuine GS, I’ll make an update to this video at a later date in time BUT the AD had sent it in for repairs and GS “repaired” the bracelet, meaning the clamped it in something and bent it until the weird gap was visually gone and sent the watch back. They didn’t replace anything 😄 I even wrote GS thru the BBB and GS admitted they only repaired the bracelet. I can’t recommend GS to anyone as for returning the watch the dealer did take it back after I was dissatisfied with the repairs. I would have been happy if grand seiko send my AD a replacement bracelet and they just replaced it on the fly at the AD.
BTW, I almost bought this model also. That cheap-ass bracelet is not cool, pins, get real, should be screws. Rattling like a rattlesnake? Also had the same issues on the case as you had. Told the AD to keep her. Not interested to buy it. Eventually I bought a gmt2 rootbeer , ss and rose gold instead. 😁😁 Very happy once I figured out how to set her! The hell with Seiko!!!😮😮😮
@@tonygu2958 well I’m glad you got a watch you are happy with. If you wanna know how to set it, Rolex has some instructional videos on how to set all their watches including the gmt 2 and also how to set the sky dweller. Congratulations on your buy
Thank you for looking into the details! I'm also interested in getting a GS but noticed some people complained about QC issues in recent years. I love their choice of dials, but I'll have to consider another brand by now.
I just checked for crown wiggle on all (3) of my watches...happy to say that none of them wiggle haha. That's pretty disappointing for a grand seiko though.
I don’t wanna give away the full bit of everything until the update video but I brought it to the dealer and they sent the watch to seiko and seiko sent it back with a clean bill of health. So the best I can assume is this is normal.
Great review! Yes, I love my Grand Seikos and other Seikos. However, I've never really seen them as competitors to Rolex. Both brands make fantastic watches, but there's a reason why Rolex is often considered the King. And don't get me started on the resale value; Grand Seikos don't hold up quite like Rolex-they tend to drop like lead balloons.
If you buy regular. Buy a very limited edition ok n and if deep pocket I mean really like where they made 100 or less for the whole world. Price of those will keep up and go up.
I def saw the pusher wobble with that model at my AD. Didn’t see the clasp issue but I was not impressed with the bracelet. There are some GS models that blew me away in terms of build quality and fit/finish and movement accuracy. This one like you showed in the video, did not impress me. They have a lot of ground to cover with most of their models. The SBGE277 (and other steel models like it) was very impressive.
I thought so too, that’s why I put my hard earned money into GS. Turned out it certainly doesn’t seem like it. The clasp extension I think is even just stamped metal… on a Rolex it is this heavy duty feeling super thick part that seems to be machined rather than pressed. I was seriously disappointed.
It's absurd that so many people have missed what you showed. The bracelet has been criticized by others as well but your attention to detail shows where the problem is in the alignment of the holes. But no one has noticed the crowns? Can other grand seiko owners check for this movement and tell us if it's in all of them because right now I believe that's the crappy way they're made unless someone can show me differently. What a shame that the spring drive is cased in a flawed housing. This really changes my mind about real quality and attention to detail.
I agree, they really have an innovative movement, the visual aesthetic is great, the lightweight of the titanium was nice but the actual details and tolerances and stuff of the watch was really disappointing especially for the price. The watch wasn’t made of any precious metals like gold or platinum or anything like that. Titanium is unique BUT it’s not terribly expensive. So the bulk of the price of the watch should be in the overall build quality. It just wasn’t there. They need to fix the clasp and make it a quality substantial clasp, make a screw together bracelet, and tighten up their tolerancing on the crown and pushers and the watch would be 100%. I recently got an omega seamaster and the sliding clasp on the bracelet is amazing. I don’t understand why grand seiko put that crappy stamped thin metal clasp on this expensive of a watch. Why can’t they do a machined clasp like omega? Even the crown on my omega is super nice and tight when unscrewed with no movement to it and my omega was less than half the price of this. Even my omega has a nice screw together bracelet, it doesn’t pinch between the links either. I really REALLY wanted to love grand seiko, I wanted a grand seiko before I got my rolex. I saved hardcore to buy this watch, I met my hero 😅 I was let down.
I have two other Grand Seikos, one of them with a Spring Drive movement. The crown wiggles when unscrewed on both of them. For me personally, this is not an issue at all. I have not heard of any issues or things breaking while winding. The wiggly chronograph pushers, though. This are a deal breaker for me. I have my eyes on a few other GS chronographs, and now I feel I have to check the pushers before buying any of them.
Thank you for your time doing this video! The watch does look and feel amazing. I was thinking give GS a shoot for this model, not any more. Hope you sent it back and got your refund ASAP from the AD.
Holy crap! That's very revealing, nice detail, I hope Japan is watching. Astonishing movement, beautiful dials, fabulous finishing, put together with arrogance. No thanks...love that sweeping second hand though.
I hope they watch it too, I doubt they will, before I got my Rolex or my omega Speedmaster I wanted a grand seiko chronograph, the one with the huge screw down pushers. I thought that looked pretty brilliant and I loved the dial and smooth seconds hand then this one came out and I was in love, it is just beautiful. It was a dream of mine to own a GS, this was a classic case of meeting my heroes. I can see maybe people buying the more dress oriented watches but as a tool watch and being a maintenance/trades person this watch definitely put me off to GS, especially for the price. I had a seiko alpinist that was really satisfying to own and seemed really well built! Thank you for your comment.
So, long story short, my dealer sent it to GS for repair… GS sent it back and didn’t really see any issues… my dealer gave it back to me… I stirred things up a little and they finally gave me a refund.
I don’t mind the value tanking, recently I bought an omega seamaster professional 300m and it lost about 30% of its value immediately. That’s like buying a new car, I didn’t buy it to make money and I didn’t buy it to re-sell I bought it hopefully to be a quality lifelong good.
@@alexsystems2001 the GS watch. They simply can't get proportions right. Great movements and dials but they fall apart on case design, bracelets and sizing including thickness
Disappointing for a GS yes but it’s even more disappointing when you think about all you did to earn your money, the time away from family, the physical stresses and dirty jobs (I work on mechanical equipment) all that time traded for money and all that money traded for the GS.
That is unacceptable, lousy QC, very disappointing for the price. I hope you make a warranty claim. My AD sells Rolex and GS. She is always trying to get me to buy a GS but I have compared the two brands side by side and the Rolex always feel superior. Thanks for telling the truth about GS.
What do you expect. It’s Seiko. I gave up on Seiko a long time ago because of bad accuracy and quality control. I’ll never pay big money for a Grand Seiko no matter how exceptional the polishing is, or where they get their romantic stories for the beautiful dials.
I know, I know, some grand seiko enthusiasts may be a bit disappointed in my feedback on the watch. BUT we all have different backgrounds that give us different perceptions on what we think is quality, or value. To me, being a blue collar worker, literally money is more than time at work, when I get home from work and I’m physically sore and filthy and I put my best effort forward to do quality workmanship I expect to trade my money from quality workmanship to buy things of high quality workmanship. I simply didn’t feel I got that with this watch. You don’t have to agree, you can trade your time at work for money and spend it on whatever you like, I’m doing the same and unfortunately a Grand Seiko didn’t meet my expectations.
Как и я зарабатываешь деньги честным трудом. Мне очень нравятся эти часы. Но после вашего обзора задумаюсь несколько раз. Прежде чем купить. Может брак?
Сколько они стоят?
@@maxim4849 I apologize but I do not understand your language.
@@maxim4849 I did a screen shot of your comment to translate it. Thank you! Yes it was very disappointing of a watch. The cost is over $12,000 USD
Я сделал скриншот вашего комментария, чтобы перевести его. Спасибо! Да, часы очень разочаровали. Стоимость более 12000 долларов США
@@alexsystems2001 Like me, you earn money by honest work. I really like this watch. But after your review, I think several times before buying. Maybe factory defective?
I’m sorry you got such a defective watch. Definitely not acceptable. I have a GS. I’ve had no problems at all with the watch and would buy another one without hesitation.
I hope your situation gets resolved!
I see no comments from other people agreeing that there's is like this. Seems like an isolated issue. I'll be sure to update when I go to the dealer and see for myself.
I hope nobody else has these problems 😄 this was really a dreamy watch for me and to have the opportunity to afford it was a dream come true too so it was truly a meeting your heroes sort of situation. Fortunately since I bought it new they have their watch back…
It cannot be isolated issue because there too many issues. He listed bracelet we all know as substandard for this price range and basically on the level of a 300$ watch. So all that lose bracelet stuff I believe to be true and I do owe a few grand Seiko so I can confirm that. Bad bad bad cheap bracelets and not elegant at all. The off center thing could be and same with lose pushers. That's what happens when all is hand made and slips quality control. The machine made Rolex or cheap mass produced watches will not have this "human errors" caused when all is hand made.
Thank you for your honestly report on this watch. I have had my eyes on this models for a time now. I really like GS. It would be wery interesting to hear what GS themself says about this. Hope you will report back. Take care
Thank you for this video. May I know how did GS respond to your disappointment? Any update?
So, someday I’m going to post an update video but for now I’ll try to put it here in the comments. I returned the watch to the dealer to send it in for “service” the understanding was at minimum to replace the bracelet and inspect the loose pushers. The watch departed to go back to Grand Seiko and was in their hands for a bit and came back. The existing bracelet was “repaired” and the whole watch was sent back. So I inspected the returned watch and there was what appeared to be clamp marks on the bracelet. Yes I received paperwork documenting the repair too. So I expressed my displeasure with this being the level of standard for this watch with my dealer and asked for a refund. They said they would need to look into that. So I left that day with the watch quite unhappy. I contacted grand Seiko via the BBB. Grand Seiko/Seiko responded saying that they didn’t really understand the issues I had with the watch and confirmed they repaired the bracelet. However before Seiko replied to my issues my dealer called me and told me to bring it back for a refund. So, essentially it ruined the relationship with my Rolex AD, but I’m happy I’m out from this watch. What a pile. I ended up getting an omega from an omega boutique and everything from the bracelet to the general quality of the rest of the components has been over the top! Very close to the quality of my submariner. Some people have commented if I didn’t notice the clunky bracelet, yes I noticed that when I picked it up, but you expect that, that’s notable in forums and stuff, but I didn’t expect a messed up clasp out of the box, and most people don’t wiggle the crown and pushers in the store, I never thought a loose crown and pushers was a thing. So there it is, the update in a nut shell. For as expensive as it was there are design things you can overlook like the pinned bracelet, but things that just aren’t precise, or made poorly is not cool. I hope you get the watch of your dreams! Thanks for watching.
@@alexsystems2001 For such an expensive watch, i cannot expect such flaw. Japanese are known for their quality. I am very surprised for what you encountered and sad.
I've purchased 5 Grand Seikos and had nothing but great experiences with them. That a GS could be *this* poorly constructed is baffling to me. If I were in your shoes, this would be an instant return.
I certainly understand why you don't like the watch. The uneven gap near the clasp is clearly a defect, and not something that should have been there. But it should be possible to fix. The wiggly pushers don't look good at all. This is a deal breaker that made me lose interest in this particular watch. Thanks for pointing this out. Otherwise I could have bought this and been very disappointed.
I don't mind the wiggly crown, since it does not wiggle when screwed in. As for the bracelet and clasp overall, it is certainly not as impressive looking as for example a Rolex of Omega bracelet. But while my Planet Ocean bracelet is not very comfortable, my Grand Seiko bracelets are supremely comfortable on the wrist. What they lack in heft, they make up for in finishing. The polishing and brushing on the links is way beyond what Omega does. And the edges are very smooth, hence to comfort in wearing the GS bracelets.
A tip: If you want to see a Grand Seiko bracelet than is more impressive looking, check out one of the Evolution 9 models without the diving style clasp, for example White Birch (SLGA001 or SLGH005). The non-diving clasps feel more solid on all GS models that have them, and the Evolution 9 models have a much thicker bracelet.
Thank you for your comment. Is the non diving style clasp adjustable on the fly? That’s the reason for my like of that clasp, I was spoiled by my on the fly adjustable bracelet on the submariner. I work as a maintenance technician and daily wear my watch so in summer on hot days my wrist tends to grow a bit, so I need to expand the bracelet just a little bit for comfort.
Is this a titanium case and bracelet for GS?
Yes
Good catches I share your opinion
Great vid, we need more videos about bad QC on all brands.
As an individual buyer I would love to but I can’t afford to do that 😄
Sell both of those piece of shhh and buy the zenith chronomaster sport :) YW
Honestly, I thought about the zenith chronomaster but I repair equipment for a living and so I was worried about the unprotected ceramic bezel, I’ve already broken the pip off my submariner by smacking it on unforgiving surfaces but I think I haven’t chipped the ceramic because on the sub it has that small trim of steel around the bezel, those ceramic bezels are crippling expensive, fortunately the pip was under $200 to be installed by Rolex. I also considered the chromomaster but the bracelet didn’t have the on the fly adjustability. In a lot of environments it’s quite hot and my wrists swell a little bit and if the watch gets too tight I like that I can just make my sub a little bigger and put it back on, I’d be worried with a chronomaster that it would get tight and I’d take it off, set it somewhere and lose it, or worse drop it from a scaffold or something. They are beautiful watches, but I love my submariner. The AD took the Seiko back and when I was in there I held a chronomaster and checked it out but I decided to just hang on to my money before buy another watch.
I do NOT recommend you unscrewing the crown on a Milgauss or an OP then 😂
The micro shots of the bracelet finish especially the clasp are so poor for the price and really i have never been a GS fan even though I have never been any brand nord.
I have owned several rolexes, a Breitling, a Hublot and a few others over the years. I currently have my collection pruned down to one Rolex gold/steel sub with blue dial I have had for about 10 years. I also have 3 pateks, a ulysses nardin white gold diver and a stainless audemar royal oak offshore. I thought I was done with new watches but recently purchased a grand seiko chronograph 253. I had been intrigued by the spring drive since I first learned about it. Obviously, I own some very nice watches. Overall, the Pateks are probably the nicest watches I have ever owned. However, this New Grand Seiko has surprised me with what a cool watch it is. As far as time keeping, after wearing it for close to a month, it was off by just a few seconds. I am used to wearing a larger watch since I have owned a number of sports watches, divers and chronographs so I found the watch very comfortable-the titanium is so light, I forget I have it on. It also is a very nice looking watch. The watch isn’t cheap but is definitely cheaper than my other watches and I find I am wearing it more than the others by far. I have to say that I zero regrets buying the GS-it has been a welcome addition to my collection
I’m glad you have had a better experience than I had. Enjoy!
Sounds like you need a new authorized dealer. Like every 1 in 10 guys who spend $10,000 on a watch get a lemon. That's the way it seems. Rolex, Omega? It doesn't matter. It just seems like the dealers should see the defects before selling them.
Sorry to hear that. Can you return the watch? Are you sure this is an authentic GS watch? It’s hard to believe the quality from GS can be this BAD …
Thank you, yes I’m sure it was a genuine GS, I’ll make an update to this video at a later date in time BUT the AD had sent it in for repairs and GS “repaired” the bracelet, meaning the clamped it in something and bent it until the weird gap was visually gone and sent the watch back. They didn’t replace anything 😄 I even wrote GS thru the BBB and GS admitted they only repaired the bracelet. I can’t recommend GS to anyone as for returning the watch the dealer did take it back after I was dissatisfied with the repairs. I would have been happy if grand seiko send my AD a replacement bracelet and they just replaced it on the fly at the AD.
BTW, I almost bought this model also. That cheap-ass bracelet is not cool, pins, get real, should be screws. Rattling like a rattlesnake? Also had the same issues on the case as you had.
Told the AD to keep her. Not interested to buy it.
Eventually I bought a gmt2 rootbeer , ss and rose gold instead. 😁😁 Very happy once I figured out how to set her!
The hell with Seiko!!!😮😮😮
@@tonygu2958 well I’m glad you got a watch you are happy with. If you wanna know how to set it, Rolex has some instructional videos on how to set all their watches including the gmt 2 and also how to set the sky dweller. Congratulations on your buy
Thank you for looking into the details! I'm also interested in getting a GS but noticed some people complained about QC issues in recent years. I love their choice of dials, but I'll have to consider another brand by now.
@@lvchubby yes I was surprised at the sort of meh-ness about the watch. I hope you find a watch you love.
I just checked for crown wiggle on all (3) of my watches...happy to say that none of them wiggle haha. That's pretty disappointing for a grand seiko though.
I had to check my others as you saw in the video, I just couldn’t believe it either. Thank you for commenting!
Have you exposed these issues to the dealer? It looks really wonky QC. Not even the basic Seikos have these issues.
I don’t wanna give away the full bit of everything until the update video but I brought it to the dealer and they sent the watch to seiko and seiko sent it back with a clean bill of health. So the best I can assume is this is normal.
Great review! Yes, I love my Grand Seikos and other Seikos. However, I've never really seen them as competitors to Rolex. Both brands make fantastic watches, but there's a reason why Rolex is often considered the King. And don't get me started on the resale value; Grand Seikos don't hold up quite like Rolex-they tend to drop like lead balloons.
If you buy regular. Buy a very limited edition ok n and if deep pocket I mean really like where they made 100 or less for the whole world. Price of those will keep up and go up.
Piece 'o junk! 12k+ is a joke! More like $12 if I can say so. I definatley would pass on her.😢
Yeah, I don’t think I’ll ever look at another grand seiko again. Thank you for watching and commenting.
I def saw the pusher wobble with that model at my AD. Didn’t see the clasp issue but I was not impressed with the bracelet.
There are some GS models that blew me away in terms of build quality and fit/finish and movement accuracy. This one like you showed in the video, did not impress me.
They have a lot of ground to cover with most of their models. The SBGE277 (and other steel models like it) was very impressive.
I thought Grand Seiko was better quality than rolex.
I thought so too, that’s why I put my hard earned money into GS. Turned out it certainly doesn’t seem like it. The clasp extension I think is even just stamped metal… on a Rolex it is this heavy duty feeling super thick part that seems to be machined rather than pressed. I was seriously disappointed.
Rolex sells a lot of watches not because they are so good at marketing. They have products to back it up.
Rolex is overhyped. So just give me the GS…
@@Hmmm313 lol I dunno man I’d take an omega before I bought another GS that GS was pretty junk.
I think the tentagraph is way more beautiful than this 😂 i own 3 grand seikos, they all run perfectly, hope you got it all cleared up (:
It's absurd that so many people have missed what you showed. The bracelet has been criticized by others as well but your attention to detail shows where the problem is in the alignment of the holes. But no one has noticed the crowns? Can other grand seiko owners check for this movement and tell us if it's in all of them because right now I believe that's the crappy way they're made unless someone can show me differently. What a shame that the spring drive is cased in a flawed housing. This really changes my mind about real quality and attention to detail.
I agree, they really have an innovative movement, the visual aesthetic is great, the lightweight of the titanium was nice but the actual details and tolerances and stuff of the watch was really disappointing especially for the price. The watch wasn’t made of any precious metals like gold or platinum or anything like that. Titanium is unique BUT it’s not terribly expensive. So the bulk of the price of the watch should be in the overall build quality. It just wasn’t there. They need to fix the clasp and make it a quality substantial clasp, make a screw together bracelet, and tighten up their tolerancing on the crown and pushers and the watch would be 100%. I recently got an omega seamaster and the sliding clasp on the bracelet is amazing. I don’t understand why grand seiko put that crappy stamped thin metal clasp on this expensive of a watch. Why can’t they do a machined clasp like omega? Even the crown on my omega is super nice and tight when unscrewed with no movement to it and my omega was less than half the price of this. Even my omega has a nice screw together bracelet, it doesn’t pinch between the links either. I really REALLY wanted to love grand seiko, I wanted a grand seiko before I got my rolex. I saved hardcore to buy this watch, I met my hero 😅 I was let down.
I have two other Grand Seikos, one of them with a Spring Drive movement. The crown wiggles when unscrewed on both of them. For me personally, this is not an issue at all. I have not heard of any issues or things breaking while winding.
The wiggly chronograph pushers, though. This are a deal breaker for me. I have my eyes on a few other GS chronographs, and now I feel I have to check the pushers before buying any of them.
Thank you for your time doing this video! The watch does look and feel amazing. I was thinking give GS a shoot for this model, not any more. Hope you sent it back and got your refund ASAP from the AD.
Exactly GS really need to step up there bracelet game! I don`t wear the dial I wear the bracelet! Come on GS you can do better!
Holy crap! That's very revealing, nice detail, I hope Japan is watching. Astonishing movement, beautiful dials, fabulous finishing, put together with arrogance. No thanks...love that sweeping second hand though.
I hope they watch it too, I doubt they will, before I got my Rolex or my omega Speedmaster I wanted a grand seiko chronograph, the one with the huge screw down pushers. I thought that looked pretty brilliant and I loved the dial and smooth seconds hand then this one came out and I was in love, it is just beautiful. It was a dream of mine to own a GS, this was a classic case of meeting my heroes. I can see maybe people buying the more dress oriented watches but as a tool watch and being a maintenance/trades person this watch definitely put me off to GS, especially for the price. I had a seiko alpinist that was really satisfying to own and seemed really well built! Thank you for your comment.
@@alexsystems2001 Yeah, but you have the wrist for it, a lot don't that's the other thing they don'y get with the sports versions.
8 inch wrists!!!
What a BeefLord!!
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I don’t have 8 inches anywhere else so I’ll take 8” wrists haha
@@alexsystems2001😂😂😂
Did you buy it new or used?
Brand new from a Grand Seiko Authorized Dealer.
I have SLGH017 and bracelet has no such movement. Your one is unacceptable and take back to GS dealer asap
So, long story short, my dealer sent it to GS for repair… GS sent it back and didn’t really see any issues… my dealer gave it back to me… I stirred things up a little and they finally gave me a refund.
Thank you for sharing
Not to mention that the value of GS tanks as soon as you buy it👎
I don’t mind the value tanking, recently I bought an omega seamaster professional 300m and it lost about 30% of its value immediately. That’s like buying a new car, I didn’t buy it to make money and I didn’t buy it to re-sell I bought it hopefully to be a quality lifelong good.
Please update us
That thing is hideous. Especially the clasp.
Which one? lol
@@alexsystems2001 the GS watch. They simply can't get proportions right. Great movements and dials but they fall apart on case design, bracelets and sizing including thickness
@@jchong416 agree, seikos have the worst proportions in the game. Biggest, thickest, bulkiest watches out there
@@Ferien7 they could do so much better but won't. The seiko company can design elegant watches. Look at some credors
No way this isn't a lemon. Price like that? Disappointing for GS.
Disappointing for a GS yes but it’s even more disappointing when you think about all you did to earn your money, the time away from family, the physical stresses and dirty jobs (I work on mechanical equipment) all that time traded for money and all that money traded for the GS.
That is unacceptable, lousy QC, very disappointing for the price. I hope you make a warranty claim. My AD sells Rolex and GS. She is always trying to get me to buy a GS but I have compared the two brands side by side and the Rolex always feel superior. Thanks for telling the truth about GS.
What do you expect. It’s Seiko. I gave up on Seiko a long time ago because of bad accuracy and quality control. I’ll never pay big money for a Grand Seiko no matter how exceptional the polishing is, or where they get their romantic stories for the beautiful dials.
Stick to Rolex, honeymoon forever, that GS is shocking!
I agree 😄
@Bmwryder I really enjoyed your vid, please more watch vids and the outcome please