When I was eight months pregnant with my first baby, I had to have an X-ray on my back. The doctor slipped the X-ray into a clip that had light coming through. When the doctor began talking about my back in the X-ray, I couldn’t hear him because I was looking at my upside-down baby, and when I noticed the shape of his forehead I recognized him! I was so moved, felt such love and joy I cried for three days. Another time, I was given to know my three sons had signed contracts in their pre-mortal lives…but that’s all I can share due to the sacredness of what I was shown. On a different subject, I heard it said by many in the Church when I was much younger, that we in our pre-mortal lives knew what our weaknesses were and chose what our “helpful” trials would be on earth . After being told that we CHOSE what we would suffer here, I thought: If I could go back in time and could find my own pre-mortal spirit, I would smack her silly!!!
I have been married 4 times . I can say is I have had dreams of a man that I still haven’t met . One dream I was in his arms, realizing I was in a dream and started to wake up , I started to cry 😭 no I don’t want to go . He said it will be ok . I said , what if I don’t remember you . He grabbed my face and looked into my eyes and said I won’t forget you! Ya i woke up crying 😭 Trying to draw ✍️ him . And record everything I had seen and felt. Ya i have forgotten him as the years have gone on . But I still yearn for him . I am not sealed yet . I have always been a member . But I am not worried. And will let things unfold as they will .
My husband got his patriarchal blessing after the birth of our first child. In it, he was told that other spirits had chosen us as parents and are waiting to be born into our family. I'm sure not all of us chose our parents, but I feel sure our children chose us. Some are active, some aren't, but we choose to remain strong and faithful as an example to our children.
In my patriarchal blessing, it states that it was no mistake that I chose to come into the family that I did. That through my faithfulness in the pre-mortal, I was given that choice. That this was all planned out by our Heavenly Father before any of us got here.
Some in these near death experiences are also saying they choose their trials, choose their families ect before coming to earth. Some said it was like picking groceries off the shelf. Some have been saying in these prebirth memories as they call them that they Even went as far as popping up an advanced editor to edit their own life choices to edit the kind of body they wanted, to edit the paths they wanted to chose in life choosing the experiences to go through ect before coming here to experience it. Some also remember what it was like to going through the veil and leaving the light of god behind to leave god's presence to come to earth.. But there some thing that I found freaky and that's when some of them also remember way back before their spirit birth and recall being just light orb intelligence's sitting in some cosmic star nursey receiving light and love from God.. Or some remember being spirits and remembering walking with God the Father with his glorified resurrected body and God the Father saying to them if you want to have a body just like me, you have to go down to earth to get it and go through the experiences I went through in order to obtain mine. It won't be easy. Some also say they remember having gender as being an intelligence before being born as spirits.
@@germansliceyour saying in pre mortal life i chose to be sealed to my step dad and kill him in self defense when he chose satan over us harming my sister and our families night of discovery being indanger? Im pretty sure satan is what did it i dont think we know or chose all before we came here
Unpopular opinion: I think now (and have pretty much always thought) my husband and I are an exception to the “no soulmates”/foreordained spouse thing. I dreamt of him 3 times starting at age 15, seeing clear physical characteristics (like him being brunette with wavy hair, height compared to me, head shape,and how thin he was) and seeing other important details like that he was being called home from a foreign mission like I was during Covid. I was often ridiculed by my peers and for being “too picky” for never dating someone seriously who didn’t meet all of the requirements I had from my dreams. Both of our patriarchal blessings seemed specific for each other and on our sealing day, we were told by our sealer that we had known and chosen each other in the premortal life, had fought to find each other in this life, and would now never again be separated.
Adam and Eve descended together. Some were with them, the spirits that followed them (not all spirits were of the ‘hosts’ of heaven. A Host is of the house. When the brethren speak, it is to the whole, with a general address. As an example, They will say at times, ‘we don’t know the answer to this…’ when in fact they know, but we as a church are not informed. To say the hosts didn’t descend together is to deny the Eternal plan of progression and our journeys on Jacob’s Ladder. A time must come when we move past the milk, forget what we think we know, study, ask, knock and receive the meat and be instructed by the lord. Empty the cup, allow the lord to fill it, he cannot fill a cup that’s already full. This is also generally speaking for all. You know you came to this world to be with your husband, and I also had dreams and direction in knowing my future wife, appearance as a young woman and more mature. Also remember we are all at different levels of understandings, even our apostles and prophets have shared opinions, conflicting with others, and even changed their positions later in life. Joseph’s quote about pre selection changed before his death as he continually was taught, line upon line, building on his knowledge. Those that learned from him taught quite a different view of our journey in progression. I have a friend I worked with who’s patriarchal blessing named his future wife, first and last name. The milk and the meat, let’s use the analogy of teaching our child about conception at a young age. A married couples love creates a baby. Later the fullness is made known at an age of understanding. Both are true, one is a greater understanding of the act of creation. Yet in the church, even with a wealth of further resources, almost all saints will dig in their heals of their minimal knowledge and continue to defend that only love creates a fetus in the womb. They will live in ignorance rather then seek out the true fullness available to us. We are older then we think, we have been down a long road to get to this point and there’s more ahead. Jacob’s dream of the ladder to heaven starts where he sleeps. The angels on their journeys ascends first, and secondly descend. So important was this it was mentioned again in D and C. Ladders have steps. On those steps we make connections, and that love is the bond. Now remember the words of Christ, As it is on earth, so it is in heaven. There are no surprises for our father in heaven and he knows our life plan and every decision we will make and therefore he knows who we will marry and whether it is sealed by the Holy Spirit promise. This is a continuation. This is not debatable, the knowledge is here, found by those who learn to seek (study), and knock.
My patriarchal blessings tell me that I choose my parents, And did so because of my righteousness in my premortal life. My oldest son was in a drowning accident when he was a toddler and passed away. I have had some very spiritual experiences that are too sacred to go into here but I can tell you that I knew in pre earth life that he would be born to me and exactly what would happen in his short life. I also made covenant and contracts with other people and would help to be an influence in their lives because of the relationship I had with them there. Agency is never taken from us. I can also testify that because of that agency and choices of ourselves and others there are things not in our control but the there are specific things that the lord has promised and in the lords time ALL PROMISES will be fulfilled.
I have had many similar experiences related to my premortal life, including making contracts with many ancestors, choosing my mom and brothers and sisters, etc.
I'm adopted, i truly feel that the family that adopted me was the family I was meant to be with. 18 months prior to my birth, my mother who adopted me had a dream, in that dream I appeared to her as an infant, she described me having strawberry blonde curly hair and rolly polly. My mother had 3 sons, two of which passed away within 10 days of birth, she also had several miscarriages, but she knew her family was not complete. They filed for adoption through LDS Church services and received a call that there was a baby girl available for adoption at the relief society building on Temple Square. They drove down from Logan and was met by the General Relief Society President and taken to the nursery, when my mother looked down into the crib I was in, she picked me up and said, this is the baby girl I saw in my dream 18 months previous. She never laid me back down in that crib again, my older brother on the other hand asked on the return trip home if they could go back and get one that didn't cry so much, he was five at the time and not a fan. I know my heavenly father had a hand in my adoption, you won't convince me otherwise. He had a plan for me all along!
I believe in this 100%! I love your story. ♥️ My friend saw her adoptive son in a dream as well, and my husband and I both had dreams that led us to begin the adoption process too ♥️♥️
I also am adopted and often wondered about where I fit in. As I got older I received witness that the Lord put me with my new family. I often felt I didn’t fit in though because they were so different from me. They were so much better than I. But I was always grateful for I learned the gospel through them. I am 69 and I have connected with my birth family…my 4 half siblings seem like I’ve known them before there are so many similarities. Long story short I am sealed to my adopted parents and I know that the Lord has blessed me abundantly!
I have a 19 yo birth son, he’s on a mission in Japan. I knew once his parents finally came to me after 7 months of searching and being turned down by 4 other adoptive couples (God is in the details), I knew he was meant to be with their family! Now almost 20 years later, it’s still undeniable. 🦋🦋🦋
My mother always stressed about her youngest son. She did find some relief in a statement made by an apostle or prophet of the church. I don’t remember who it was, but they had received personal revelation about one of their own wayward children. That child was sent to his family because that was going to be the best chance for their child to return to Heavenly Father’s presence This brought some relief to the guilt my mother experienced thinking she had failed as a parent
I believe I was sent to my family by a higher authority. I cannot fathom I would ever choose them. However, I know that no matter which scenario it ends up being, I am unconcerned. I know that it was all divinely organized for what I needed to learn, experience, and grow from to prepare for my exaltation. My lessons won’t be the same as others, and vice versa. Heavenly Father knows us all intricately and only authors the most needed, not most wanted, circumstances for our celestial return.
After my 3rd son was born I had an experience where the veil was pierced and I saw us talking and laughing in the premortal world. We lived each other so much. He asked if I could be his mother on earth. I was delighted to say yes... That soon and I have always had a lovely relationship..❤
I had a very vivid dream when I was a child, a dream which I still recall in great detail where I was with Heavenly Father and he gave me the choice of which parents to be born to. When I chose he asked me why I chose them, my answer was “because they love each other” even though all the couples I saw were fighting often. He said “that’s right”, and gave me the admonition to set an example for my family.
In a priesthood blessing, I was told that I chose my mother. I had been really struggling with her at this time of my life (she has borderline anger issues). That statement in my blessing changed my perspective somewhat. I’m excited for the next life when all of these things regarding choices and premortal life will (hopefully!) be revealed to us.
My father was abusive and I didn’t have a happy home. I joined the church in my 20s and have a wonderful husband and children. I would never have chosen my father, but maybe Heavenly Father did? If I don’t see my father again I’ll be happy. Don’t know how it all is decided.
It is situations like yours that makes me think that we were assigned on missions or a calling. I believe we accepted the mission or call to go to certain families so that we may learn from experience the bad from the good. I also think that this is why we can't remember the pre existence, because we would be more upset with ourselves for agreeing to certain calls or missions.
I believe we chose among other things, our trials to some degree. I do not believe there wasn’t a single trial presented to us that was promised to strengthen us in some way. Stay strong my friend. Your father is a child of God as well.
My birth father didn’t want me. My mother married someone else and that beautiful man raised me as his own & I am sealed to him and my mum. I’ve often thought about why I would choose someone who would abandon me. Then I remembered that my birth father also chose to come to earth, he chose Gods plan over Satans. He has good qualities but he also had free agency and made some bad choices on his mortal journey. I think we all had the very best of intentions to come and do our best and perhaps our decisions regarding family were based on our knowledge of our pre mortal selves. Either way, God will put everything right in the end x
This is interesting. I know that I chose my family because my patriarchal blessing told me that I chose my family in the premarital life. So I know that some people did choose their spouses and families. Maybe not everyone did but I know I did. 😊
I don't know if we choose our families but God never forces us into something that is against our agency. Perhaps we were called into our families just as we are called into a position in the church. So at minimum, we accepted or consented to the families were were born into.
My patriarchal blessing said I did choose my parent. Also that I would have a home where the spirit of the lord would dwell. I have a wonderful home and spiritual parents.
I’ve heard people say yes we did choose our family and then I’ve had other people say their family with their children are chosen at random. Personally, I sometimes get glimpses of pre-mortal life and I know my three girls picked me to be their mom. I am very thankful to have them in my life.
My blessing states my spouse and I chose each other before mortality. Soul mates might not be the norm but it does exist, even amongst us boring people.
Just had a thought last night. Think of an Olympic torch relay race and each generation carrying a torch onto the next until the final generation before the second coming. I thought that was interesting. I like the symbolism of it. Might be worth looking into...
My patriarchial blessing tells me to prepare myself for the day that I have selected a companion of my choice and the two of us can go to the House of the Lord and be sealed for time and all eternity. I fully had faith in that, and I know that God inspired me and my wife to get married, and the timing couldn't have worked out any better. We met in April 2001, and we were engaged in May of 2001 and were married and sealed in the Manti Utah Temple in October 2001. It was within a year of me being home from my mission. In fact, when I was still on my mission in 2000, there were members in my last area who said to me that I would get married six months after my mission, I felt like it would be a year after. I would tell them, no but give me a year. When my wife and I got to know each other there were so many things that we had in common. We both grew up in Utah, only about 40 miles away, and in fact, we found out that when we were growing up we were in the same preschool at BYU and there was a lady that would give us a ride to preschool. Both of our mothers knew that same lady. It was very interesting. There are a lot more we have in common. God works in mysterious ways, and I feel as if we knew each other in the preexistant. I believe we knew who our families would be and that is for particular reasons. I don't know if I would be able to live in any other family, although my wife's family and my family are very much alike and it sure helped to marry into a family that I get along with my in-laws. My wife's family and my family would shop at the same location while we were growing up. There could have been many times that we were at the same place at the same time shopping and never knew.
My husband and I are similar - so many times we could have met before my mission, but didn't, because the Lord's plan for me included a mission before marriage, and that probably wouldn't have happened had we met before that opportunity came. I do feel that I was led to him and that he was hands down the very best choice for me out of all the guys I had ever dated (and our families are pretty similar too), whether that means we chose each other before this life or not. I look forward to understanding more one day, but in any case, I know the Lord's hand and blessing was in it. ♥️
My patriarchal blessing tells me that I chose my parents and my children choose me. But that is all contingent on my keeping my covenants, and my parents keep their covenants. I was always taught that not all choose.
Great video - my thoughts - Jesus Christ who was Jehovah at the time said - “here I am send me”. And He chose to do Heavenly Father’s Plan. We chose to follow Him so I believe the same was true for us. The call was given - we chose to step forward or not - some of us could have chosen our family but if we were using our agency as Our Father wanted us to - we would probably be seeking His guidance in doing so. Some may have said “I trust You know what I need because You have taught me what I needed to know in my spiritual body.” We had Agency there. If not - 1/3 wouldn’t have followed and been cast out with Lucifer. It makes sense to me that those of us who chose to follow God‘s plan would probably seek his guidance in the things He wanted us to accomplish in this physical world. With these physical bodies. That is what He wants from us now. We will always be responsible for what we do with our Agency. I have had an interesting thought come to my mind lately - I wonder - If I am able to get to the point of becoming One with my Father in Heaven and Jesus Christ - to the point that my will is completely swallowed up in Their Will - will that be like I am gratefully handing back my worn out gift of Agency - with the knowledge that I have learned how to have a new heart that is completely theirs and free from being tempted by any other choice - making that gift of Agency no longer necessary in my life? I know it is a Peculiar thought. But I feel it may be true.
I'm now interested to know how you and Jenica met. I dont know that my husband and I were soul mates or predestined to be together, but I definitely can look back and see the Lord's hand in bringing us together. I prayed for my future husband from the time I was 14 years old. I was blessed to know things about his life long before I ever met him in person. I also knew his daughter as mine that was promised to me the second I met her. It had been my absolute honor and privilege to raise that young lady.
My blessing talked about a man that looks nothing like my ex husband. When my daughter was 8 years old .she said my dad shouldnt have been my dad .even now as an adult she still strongly believes her dad was not meant to be her dad , it was meant to be someone else she says.My question is could it be that we may have chosen our parents , but when we come into mortality we forget everything and our chosen parents chose the wrong partners down here , just a thought.the fact tyst my daughter still feels strongly about this.shows we still have agency , and can still make mistakes through poor choices
We each come here with a purpose to fulfill, and for some that requires a spouse that fills a certain role as well. Even in these cases, though, it seems like Heavenly Father would have chosen for us and we would have been more likely to use our agency to agree to His foreordination than to have chosen everything ourselves. Great video! It really got me thinking 🤔
I have a little book by John Taylor called THE VISION OR THE DEGREES OF GLORY. It is only 165 pages long. What you just read, ORIGIN AND DESTINY OF WOMAN, is part of it.
This confirms many, many personal revelatory experiences I have had about my family. Beautiful. Choice is the plan. I can see some may have chosen some in full knowledge before mortality, maybe some waited until mortal to choose...no matter what, Gods plan is very detailed and beautiful.
I have had plenty of experiences where I know certain things, that I have made certain choices pre-mortally that put me where I am, with the people whom I associate. I don't know that everyone experiences such things and I can only speak for myself. But I know what I know, what the Lord has shown me about my own life. It will be very interesting to see how it all plays out in the end.
I have heard that numerous times throughout the years. So, I have believed it to be true. In my patriarchal blessing it only says that I have been well born, of goodly parents. Except for me, and my children, none of my family are members.
God is a master planner. Nothing is left to chance. He knows his children better than we know ourselves. Agency is eternal truth as is repentance and forgiveness. Everything was known, chosen and planned for. Ordain means to put into order indicating a plan. We did not blindly decide to follow Gods plan. Just because He knew and planned doesn't take away our agency. Yes, we who are here accepted how we were organized and we knew our family members.
I just hope to get married soon but I need to use faith and act to talk to single adult sisters in my ward.i also need confidence because i have medical issues. this Thursday i will be 35 years old .
It was a source of contention between my parents because mom just couldn’t let go of helping him. When she passed away, I had to completely distance myself from him because he was trying to use me like he did my mom. And like my mom I was troubled with telling him no, so I just couldn’t interact with him at all. A few years later after spending time in prison and living on the streets, he finally reached his bottom and put himself in rehab. He was addicted to meth and I thought he would never be free of his addiction but he is. He has a job he likes, owns his own home, and has a car he paid for. Myself and our two brothers are SO proud of him. I know mom and dad are too. Miracles can happen but I think he needed to find his bottom to see how bad it was. That’s our family miracle. And yes, my brother has the same sex attraction, but I don’t know if he is giving in to those feelings anymore. I sympathize for those that suffer from that tribulation. I pray that Heavenly Father will watch over them and help them find peace in who they are as sons and daughters of a loving Father 🙏🏼
In my patriarchal blessing I was told that I have guardian angels surrounding me keeping me safe. I was able to hear their wings flapping and circling around me. They even heal me and I have the ability to physically feel them even to the point of fixing something in my body where I have pain. I have no doubt about us all having guardian angels. There are a few really great talks and articles about angels
President Joseph Fielding Smith: “We have no scriptural justification . . . for the belief that we had the privilege of choosing our parents and our life companions in the spirit world. This belief has been advocated by some, and it is possible that in some instances it is true, but it would require too great a stretch of the imagination to believe it to be so in all, or even in the majority of cases. Most likely we came where those in authority decided to send us. Our agency may not have been exercised to the extent of making choice of parents and posterity.” -Joseph Fielding Smith, The Way to Perfection
In the April 2024 General Conference, Elder Shane Bowen mentioned that his deceased son was a guardian angel for his family. I listened to that talk again today just after watching to your video and thought I’d share that.
Amazing video Jared. I've had a warmness accompanied feeling that my Mom who is 60 will not taste of death until the second coming.\ Can anyone please help me interpret this, please?
If it is just a feeling no one can help you . Can you look at your mom’s PB and see how it is worded . Any hints there . Or statements . Does it say come forth in the morning of the first resurrection ? My moms had said that she would come with the savior and be one of his jewels. And that she would come forth in the morning of the first resurrection. Her body and her spirit never to be divided again . And this was way back when she was young .we were just teens and said is she going to die . She was 34 then . 20 years later she died at 64. . So see if her blessing says anything . I have a cousin 66 who has a PB that says she will live to see the millennium come . Then president Nelson says us our children and grand children will be the ones to receive the savior second coming. That’s the baby boomers their kids and grand kids .
@@lindamartinez7006 She's been told she'll wake up during the first morning as long as she keeps doing good. She's an amazing Mom. I've been told I wouldn't be there when the big disasters strike and that I'll be "Preserved to rise up during the first morning of the Resurrection. My guess is that I'll be gone for a really short time but any help figuring this out is welcome! :thumbs_up: I'm a Millennial from the late 80's and hoo boy do I look forward to the second coming!! 😄
This video is timely - my kids and I were just talking about this earlier today! I don't know if someone has told them that they chose their parents and siblings (maybe my husband has said that 🤷🏼♀️), but I'm fairly certain I haven't, because I was never totally sure if it was true. But in any case, they believe it's true even at their young ages. I personally have felt strongly that my husband and I have received all of the children that were assigned to us, but we both have had strong promptings to adopt a baby (we are still working through that process). I don't know if this is like "plan B" due to other people's agency, or what. But I do know that God will provide an eternal family for every single one of His children who desire and choose that.
When my dad saw my mom for the first time. The spirt told him and He knew that was the girl he was to marry. When I saw my husband for the first time I was told by the spirit he was the man I was to marry. I had no idea who he was. I lived in Utah he lived in West Virginia. My moms blessing said all her children were her friends before we came to earth. I believe there is a plan and the spirit helps us to follow the plan. Its not a roll of the dice.
There's actually quite a few quotes on this, including from presidents of the Church and apostles. I've never known if I should send them or not. The temple also touches on this. This John Taylor quote is often the starting point for the discussion. Yes, I am aware of the Spencer W. Kimball and Joseph Fielding Smith quotes.
@@CMZIEBARTH it might be too much, but if not, you could copy and paste them as a reply maybe. 🤷🏼♀️ It's okay if it's too much or not possible to share :)
It's something I was taught from a young age but after researching for myself came to the conclusion it isn't doctrine that we chose our family though I'm sure there are a few cases where it has happened. I certainly won't be teaching it as doctrine, I've not found quotes from anyone with authority who has made the claim and it wouldn't make any sense in many cases. My dad for example had other children to another woman in an extramarital relationship.
It's a great idea if the marriage/ family works out but if not it's hard to believe it was chosen. My mom told me this when I was a kid and I remember thinking, "really? that doesn't feel right." My family has since fallen apart. Makes me wonder what the plan was and when it first fell apart.
This is such an interesting subject, and I have mixed feelings about this. I have often felt like I was sent to my family as a missionary. I don't think I would have chosen the family I have for several reasons which are of a personal matter. Just like missionaries or members dont get to select missions or callings. I think that family assignments are more like a mission or a calling. I do think I agreed to the mission or the calling. Then, I was set apart in heaven before going. Just a different train of thought. I think it fits the narrative better.
Can we look at the king follet discourse, maybe look at Joseph’s last dream etc… trying to recall if Joseph’s dream spoke of boats etc… had lots of boat crashes lately. Love your stuff tho.
***As same up its the same down, when you send your application to be missionary, you never before choose the country or mission to serve, in fact some missionaries change the missions for many causes. Otherwise, where is the agency?***
I find this an interesting topic and wonder if some of this is propagated by ideas like the play and/or movie "Saturday's Warrior" where the whole play/movie is set on families and friends were established in the pre-existence.
An odd question ,given the rampant mental illness in my present family...having a vague remembrance of having chosen those to come to earth with, I'm still wondering why...
I don't think choosing you family is always the case, as my P.B. states that I was assigned to my family to receive specific blessings. I know that genetics and family lines are very important as well as being born within the covenant. The things we agreed to do in the pre-mortal realm specifically for this life also play a great role.
I liked this really well Tried to take notes on it and had to rewind several times Would you email me an outline on this Would love to dig deeper into this When doing genealogy I find myself wondering about so many things you’ve covered here Thank so much for this post
How does one reconcile the viewpoint at 7:22 with that expressed at 14:34? If you met the person you previously loved and chose to be with in the mortal life (and beyond), since it says you were kindred spirits in the previous spiritual worlds, would their bond on earth not honestly be called a "soul" mate relationship? They were already loving each other and kindred spirits in the realm of the soul, the spiritual world. If a woman chooses her Head in the spiritual world, why would any of many other men suffice for her on Earth, making it almost a random process?
I think it can help for people to find faith and love of God in their crappy family situation. It’s hard to explain to other people but knowing it was completely planned for and that you were in on the plan has really helped me deal with some difficult family stuff.
Hasn't this kinda been debunked as "Saturday's Warrior" doctrine? I am open to it if true. However, if we chose our spouse in the pre-existance. what if that person isn't there because of some accident or their own choices. Are we just hosed? The problem I have with this level of "LDS Calvinism" is that it seems to fly in the face of free will or agency
I appreciate your insight. I think yes and no. The scriptural evidence for the idea of organized families is the scriptures prophesying of Christ, his earthly ancestry and other prophets. Like how Nephi saw Christ and Mary, for one example. It's a good question, do we truly have free will if God prophesys it?
I dont believe that this is correct for everyone in fact I know its not. Remember not everyone comes from perfect little mormon families, sure some did but not everyone did.
When I was eight months pregnant with my first baby, I had to have an X-ray on my back. The doctor slipped the X-ray into a clip that had light coming through. When the doctor began talking about my back in the X-ray, I couldn’t hear him because I was looking at my upside-down baby, and when I noticed the shape of his forehead I recognized him! I was so moved, felt such love and joy I cried for three days. Another time, I was given to know my three sons had signed contracts in their pre-mortal lives…but that’s all I can share due to the sacredness of what I was shown.
On a different subject, I heard it said by many in the Church when I was much younger, that we
in our pre-mortal lives knew what our weaknesses were and chose what our “helpful” trials would be on earth . After being told that we CHOSE what we would suffer here, I thought: If I could go back in time and could find my own pre-mortal spirit, I would smack her silly!!!
When my oldest daughter’s son was born, as soon as she saw him, she gasped and said, so excitedly “oh!….. I know him”. It was very emotional.
I have been married 4 times . I can say is I have had dreams of a man that I still haven’t met . One dream I was in his arms, realizing I was in a dream and started to wake up ,
I started to cry 😭 no I don’t want to go .
He said it will be ok .
I said , what if I don’t remember you .
He grabbed my face and looked into my eyes and said I won’t forget you!
Ya i woke up crying 😭
Trying to draw ✍️ him .
And record everything I had seen and felt.
Ya i have forgotten him as the years have gone on . But I still yearn for him .
I am not sealed yet .
I have always been a member .
But I am not worried. And will let things unfold as they will .
My husband got his patriarchal blessing after the birth of our first child. In it, he was told that other spirits had chosen us as parents and are waiting to be born into our family. I'm sure not all of us chose our parents, but I feel sure our children chose us. Some are active, some aren't, but we choose to remain strong and faithful as an example to our children.
In my patriarchal blessing, it states that it was no mistake that I chose to come into the family that I did. That through my faithfulness in the pre-mortal, I was given that choice. That this was all planned out by our Heavenly Father before any of us got here.
Some in these near death experiences are also saying they choose their trials, choose their families ect before coming to earth. Some said it was like picking groceries off the shelf. Some have been saying in these prebirth memories as they call them that they Even went as far as popping up an advanced editor to edit their own life choices to edit the kind of body they wanted, to edit the paths they wanted to chose in life choosing the experiences to go through ect before coming here to experience it. Some also remember what it was like to going through the veil and leaving the light of god behind to leave god's presence to come to earth..
But there some thing that I found freaky and that's when some of them also remember way back before their spirit birth
and recall being just light orb intelligence's sitting in some cosmic star nursey receiving light and love from God.. Or some remember being spirits and remembering walking with God the Father with his glorified resurrected body and God the Father saying to them if you want to have a body just like me, you have to go down to earth to get it and go through the experiences I went through in order to obtain mine. It won't be easy.
Some also say they remember having gender as being an intelligence before being born as spirits.
Mine says something similar about my children. There were agreements and decisions about our families in the premortal life
@@germanslicethough those things may be true . They just read them . I really doubt they remember all that .
@@lindamartinez7006 My question is who is giving them this knowledge.
@@germansliceyour saying in pre mortal life i chose to be sealed to my step dad and kill him in self defense when he chose satan over us harming my sister and our families night of discovery being indanger? Im pretty sure satan is what did it i dont think we know or chose all before we came here
Unpopular opinion: I think now (and have pretty much always thought) my husband and I are an exception to the “no soulmates”/foreordained spouse thing.
I dreamt of him 3 times starting at age 15, seeing clear physical characteristics (like him being brunette with wavy hair, height compared to me, head shape,and how thin he was) and seeing other important details like that he was being called home from a foreign mission like I was during Covid. I was often ridiculed by my peers and for being “too picky” for never dating someone seriously who didn’t meet all of the requirements I had from my dreams.
Both of our patriarchal blessings seemed specific for each other and on our sealing day, we were told by our sealer that we had known and chosen each other in the premortal life, had fought to find each other in this life, and would now never again be separated.
Adam and Eve descended together. Some were with them, the spirits that followed them (not all spirits were of the ‘hosts’ of heaven. A Host is of the house. When the brethren speak, it is to the whole, with a general address. As an example, They will say at times, ‘we don’t know the answer to this…’ when in fact they know, but we as a church are not informed. To say the hosts didn’t descend together is to deny the Eternal plan of progression and our journeys on Jacob’s Ladder. A time must come when we move past the milk, forget what we think we know, study, ask, knock and receive the meat and be instructed by the lord. Empty the cup, allow the lord to fill it, he cannot fill a cup that’s already full. This is also generally speaking for all. You know you came to this world to be with your husband, and I also had dreams and direction in knowing my future wife, appearance as a young woman and more mature. Also remember we are all at different levels of understandings, even our apostles and prophets have shared opinions, conflicting with others, and even changed their positions later in life. Joseph’s quote about pre selection changed before his death as he continually was taught, line upon line, building on his knowledge. Those that learned from him taught quite a different view of our journey in progression. I have a friend I worked with who’s patriarchal blessing named his future wife, first and last name.
The milk and the meat, let’s use the analogy of teaching our child about conception at a young age. A married couples love creates a baby. Later the fullness is made known at an age of understanding. Both are true, one is a greater understanding of the act of creation. Yet in the church, even with a wealth of further resources, almost all saints will dig in their heals of their minimal knowledge and continue to defend that only love creates a fetus in the womb. They will live in ignorance rather then seek out the true fullness available to us. We are older then we think, we have been down a long road to get to this point and there’s more ahead.
Jacob’s dream of the ladder to heaven starts where he sleeps. The angels on their journeys ascends first, and secondly descend. So important was this it was mentioned again in D and C. Ladders have steps. On those steps we make connections, and that love is the bond. Now remember the words of Christ, As it is on earth, so it is in heaven. There are no surprises for our father in heaven and he knows our life plan and every decision we will make and therefore he knows who we will marry and whether it is sealed by the Holy Spirit promise. This is a continuation. This is not debatable, the knowledge is here, found by those who learn to seek (study), and knock.
My patriarchal blessings tell me that I choose my parents, And did so because of my righteousness in my premortal life. My oldest son was in a drowning accident when he was a toddler and passed away. I have had some very spiritual experiences that are too sacred to go into here but I can tell you that I knew in pre earth life that he would be born to me and exactly what would happen in his short life. I also made covenant and contracts with other people and would help to be an influence in their lives because of the relationship I had with them there. Agency is never taken from us. I can also testify that because of that agency and choices of ourselves and others there are things not in our control but the there are specific things that the lord has promised and in the lords time ALL PROMISES will be fulfilled.
Beautiful. Thank you for sharing , my mind and heart are definitely Definitelythinking this over and over ❤
I have had many similar experiences related to my premortal life, including making contracts with many ancestors, choosing my mom and brothers and sisters, etc.
I'm adopted, i truly feel that the family that adopted me was the family I was meant to be with. 18 months prior to my birth, my mother who adopted me had a dream, in that dream I appeared to her as an infant, she described me having strawberry blonde curly hair and rolly polly. My mother had 3 sons, two of which passed away within 10 days of birth, she also had several miscarriages, but she knew her family was not complete. They filed for adoption through LDS Church services and received a call that there was a baby girl available for adoption at the relief society building on Temple Square. They drove down from Logan and was met by the General Relief Society President and taken to the nursery, when my mother looked down into the crib I was in, she picked me up and said, this is the baby girl I saw in my dream 18 months previous. She never laid me back down in that crib again, my older brother on the other hand asked on the return trip home if they could go back and get one that didn't cry so much, he was five at the time and not a fan. I know my heavenly father had a hand in my adoption, you won't convince me otherwise. He had a plan for me all along!
😂 I chuckled at your brother.. lol
I believe in this 100%! I love your story. ♥️ My friend saw her adoptive son in a dream as well, and my husband and I both had dreams that led us to begin the adoption process too ♥️♥️
I also am adopted and often wondered about where I fit in. As I got older I received witness that the Lord put me with my new family. I often felt I didn’t fit in though because they were so different from me. They were so much better than I. But I was always grateful for I learned the gospel through them. I am 69 and I have connected with my birth family…my 4 half siblings seem like I’ve known them before there are so many similarities. Long story short I am sealed to my adopted parents and I know that the Lord has blessed me abundantly!
I have a 19 yo birth son, he’s on a mission in Japan. I knew once his parents finally came to me after 7 months of searching and being turned down by 4 other adoptive couples (God is in the details), I knew he was meant to be with their family! Now almost 20 years later, it’s still undeniable. 🦋🦋🦋
My mother always stressed about her youngest son. She did find some relief in a statement made by an apostle or prophet of the church. I don’t remember who it was, but they had received personal revelation about one of their own wayward children. That child was sent to his family because that was going to be the best chance for their child to return to Heavenly Father’s presence
This brought some relief to the guilt my mother experienced thinking she had failed as a parent
Poor Mama😢❤
That’s so beautiful! I’m so grateful that we have true living prophets of God that speak the words of the Lord today!
I believe I was sent to my family by a higher authority. I cannot fathom I would ever choose them. However, I know that no matter which scenario it ends up being, I am unconcerned. I know that it was all divinely organized for what I needed to learn, experience, and grow from to prepare for my exaltation. My lessons won’t be the same as others, and vice versa. Heavenly Father knows us all intricately and only authors the most needed, not most wanted, circumstances for our celestial return.
After my 3rd son was born I had an experience where the veil was pierced and I saw us talking and laughing in the premortal world. We lived each other so much. He asked if I could be his mother on earth. I was delighted to say yes...
That soon and I have always had a lovely relationship..❤
My mom’s patriarchal blessing says my siblings and I chose her. She also said that when my dad proposed, she felt us celebrating in heaven
I had a very vivid dream when I was a child, a dream which I still recall in great detail where I was with Heavenly Father and he gave me the choice of which parents to be born to. When I chose he asked me why I chose them, my answer was “because they love each other” even though all the couples I saw were fighting often. He said “that’s right”, and gave me the admonition to set an example for my family.
What a beautiful and remarkable dream ❤
In a priesthood blessing, I was told that I chose my mother. I had been really struggling with her at this time of my life (she has borderline anger issues). That statement in my blessing changed my perspective somewhat.
I’m excited for the next life when all of these things regarding choices and premortal life will (hopefully!) be revealed to us.
My father was abusive and I didn’t have a happy home. I joined the church in my 20s and have a wonderful husband and children.
I would never have chosen my father, but maybe Heavenly Father did?
If I don’t see my father again I’ll be happy.
Don’t know how it all is decided.
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It is situations like yours that makes me think that we were assigned on missions or a calling.
I believe we accepted the mission or call to go to certain families so that we may learn from experience the bad from the good.
I also think that this is why we can't remember the pre existence, because we would be more upset with ourselves for agreeing to certain calls or missions.
I believe we chose among other things, our trials to some degree. I do not believe there wasn’t a single trial presented to us that was promised to strengthen us in some way. Stay strong my friend. Your father is a child of God as well.
My birth father didn’t want me. My mother married someone else and that beautiful man raised me as his own & I am sealed to him and my mum.
I’ve often thought about why I would choose someone who would abandon me. Then I remembered that my birth father also chose to come to earth, he chose Gods plan over Satans. He has good qualities but he also had free agency and made some bad choices on his mortal journey.
I think we all had the very best of intentions to come and do our best and perhaps our decisions regarding family were based on our knowledge of our pre mortal selves. Either way, God will put everything right in the end x
My patriarchal blessing states I helped choose the family I have here.
This is interesting. I know that I chose my family because my patriarchal blessing told me that I chose my family in the premarital life. So I know that some people did choose their spouses and families. Maybe not everyone did but I know I did. 😊
I don't know if we choose our families but God never forces us into something that is against our agency. Perhaps we were called into our families just as we are called into a position in the church. So at minimum, we accepted or consented to the families were were born into.
My patriarchal blessing said I did choose my parent. Also that I would have a home where the spirit of the lord would dwell. I have a wonderful home and spiritual parents.
I’ve heard people say yes we did choose our family and then I’ve had other people say their family with their children are chosen at random. Personally, I sometimes get glimpses of pre-mortal life and I know my three girls picked me to be their mom. I am very thankful to have them in my life.
My blessing states my spouse and I chose each other before mortality. Soul mates might not be the norm but it does exist, even amongst us boring people.
Just had a thought last night. Think of an Olympic torch relay race and each generation carrying a torch onto the next until the final generation before the second coming. I thought that was interesting. I like the symbolism of it. Might be worth looking into...
My patriarchial blessing tells me to prepare myself for the day that I have selected a companion of my choice and the two of us can go to the House of the Lord and be sealed for time and all eternity. I fully had faith in that, and I know that God inspired me and my wife to get married, and the timing couldn't have worked out any better. We met in April 2001, and we were engaged in May of 2001 and were married and sealed in the Manti Utah Temple in October 2001. It was within a year of me being home from my mission. In fact, when I was still on my mission in 2000, there were members in my last area who said to me that I would get married six months after my mission, I felt like it would be a year after. I would tell them, no but give me a year.
When my wife and I got to know each other there were so many things that we had in common. We both grew up in Utah, only about 40 miles away, and in fact, we found out that when we were growing up we were in the same preschool at BYU and there was a lady that would give us a ride to preschool. Both of our mothers knew that same lady. It was very interesting. There are a lot more we have in common. God works in mysterious ways, and I feel as if we knew each other in the preexistant.
I believe we knew who our families would be and that is for particular reasons. I don't know if I would be able to live in any other family, although my wife's family and my family are very much alike and it sure helped to marry into a family that I get along with my in-laws. My wife's family and my family would shop at the same location while we were growing up. There could have been many times that we were at the same place at the same time shopping and never knew.
My husband and I are similar - so many times we could have met before my mission, but didn't, because the Lord's plan for me included a mission before marriage, and that probably wouldn't have happened had we met before that opportunity came. I do feel that I was led to him and that he was hands down the very best choice for me out of all the guys I had ever dated (and our families are pretty similar too), whether that means we chose each other before this life or not. I look forward to understanding more one day, but in any case, I know the Lord's hand and blessing was in it. ♥️
My patriarchal blessing tells me that I chose my parents and my children choose me. But that is all contingent on my keeping my covenants, and my parents keep their covenants. I was always taught that not all choose.
Great video
- my thoughts -
Jesus Christ who was Jehovah at the time said - “here I am send me”.
And He chose to do Heavenly Father’s Plan.
We chose to follow Him so I believe the same was true for us.
The call was given - we chose to step forward or not - some of us could have chosen our family but if we were using our agency as Our Father wanted us to - we would probably be seeking His guidance in doing so. Some may have said “I trust You know what I need because You have taught me what I needed to know in my spiritual body.”
We had Agency there. If not - 1/3 wouldn’t have followed and been cast out with Lucifer.
It makes sense to me that those of us who chose to follow God‘s plan would probably seek his guidance in the things He wanted us to accomplish in this physical world. With these physical bodies.
That is what He wants from us now. We will always be responsible for what we do with our Agency.
I have had an interesting thought come to my mind lately -
I wonder - If I am able to get to the point of becoming One with my Father in Heaven and Jesus Christ - to the point that my will is completely swallowed up in Their Will - will that be like I am gratefully handing back my worn out gift of Agency - with the knowledge that I have learned how to have a new heart that is completely theirs and free from being tempted by any other choice - making that gift of Agency no longer necessary in my life?
I know it is a Peculiar thought. But I feel it may be true.
My daughters patriarchal blessing, said she chose her parents.
I'm now interested to know how you and Jenica met. I dont know that my husband and I were soul mates or predestined to be together, but I definitely can look back and see the Lord's hand in bringing us together. I prayed for my future husband from the time I was 14 years old. I was blessed to know things about his life long before I ever met him in person.
I also knew his daughter as mine that was promised to me the second I met her. It had been my absolute honor and privilege to raise that young lady.
And about our daughter
My blessing talked about a man that looks nothing like my ex husband. When my daughter was 8 years old .she said my dad shouldnt have been my dad .even now as an adult she still strongly believes her dad was not meant to be her dad , it was meant to be someone else she says.My question is could it be that we may have chosen our parents , but when we come into mortality we forget everything and our chosen parents chose the wrong partners down here , just a thought.the fact tyst my daughter still feels strongly about this.shows we still have agency , and can still make mistakes through poor choices
We each come here with a purpose to fulfill, and for some that requires a spouse that fills a certain role as well. Even in these cases, though, it seems like Heavenly Father would have chosen for us and we would have been more likely to use our agency to agree to His foreordination than to have chosen everything ourselves. Great video! It really got me thinking 🤔
I have a little book by John Taylor called THE VISION OR THE DEGREES OF GLORY. It is only 165 pages long. What you just read, ORIGIN AND DESTINY OF WOMAN, is part of it.
This confirms many, many personal revelatory experiences I have had about my family. Beautiful. Choice is the plan. I can see some may have chosen some in full knowledge before mortality, maybe some waited until mortal to choose...no matter what, Gods plan is very detailed and beautiful.
I have had plenty of experiences where I know certain things, that I have made certain choices pre-mortally that put me where I am, with the people whom I associate. I don't know that everyone experiences such things and I can only speak for myself. But I know what I know, what the Lord has shown me about my own life. It will be very interesting to see how it all plays out in the end.
I have heard that numerous times throughout the years. So, I have believed it to be true. In my patriarchal blessing it only says that I have been well born, of goodly parents. Except for me, and my children, none of my family are members.
God is a master planner. Nothing is left to chance. He knows his children better than we know ourselves. Agency is eternal truth as is repentance and forgiveness. Everything was known, chosen and planned for. Ordain means to put into order indicating a plan. We did not blindly decide to follow Gods plan. Just because He knew and planned doesn't take away our agency. Yes, we who are here accepted how we were organized and we knew our family members.
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I just hope to get married soon but I need to use faith and act to talk to single adult sisters in my ward.i also need confidence because i have medical issues. this Thursday i will be 35 years old .
Yes I know some people did anyway. My mother’s patriarchal blessing stated she picked her husband and children and we agreed.
It was a source of contention between my parents because mom just couldn’t let go of helping him. When she passed away, I had to completely distance myself from him because he was trying to use me like he did my mom. And like my mom I was troubled with telling him no, so I just couldn’t interact with him at all. A few years later after spending time in prison and living on the streets, he finally reached his bottom and put himself in rehab. He was addicted to meth and I thought he would never be free of his addiction but he is. He has a job he likes, owns his own home, and has a car he paid for. Myself and our two brothers are SO proud of him. I know mom and dad are too. Miracles can happen but I think he needed to find his bottom to see how bad it was.
That’s our family miracle. And yes, my brother has the same sex attraction, but I don’t know if he is giving in to those feelings anymore. I sympathize for those that suffer from that tribulation. I pray that Heavenly Father will watch over them and help them find peace in who they are as sons and daughters of a loving Father 🙏🏼
I appreciate this video as I have been pondering much in this area of my life.
We are all different from each other. It’s kind of like the mission leaders choose were missionaries go.
In my patriarchal blessing I was told that I have guardian angels surrounding me keeping me safe. I was able to hear their wings flapping and circling around me. They even heal me and I have the ability to physically feel them even to the point of fixing something in my body where I have pain. I have no doubt about us all having guardian angels. There are a few really great talks and articles about angels
It our responsibility to watch over our relatives left alive on earth.you they have watched over me many times in my 68 years...
President Joseph Fielding Smith: “We have no scriptural justification . . . for the belief that we had the privilege of choosing our parents and our life companions in the spirit world. This belief has been advocated by some, and it is possible that in some instances it is true, but it would require too great a stretch of the imagination to believe it to be so in all, or even in the majority of cases. Most likely we came where those in authority decided to send us. Our agency may not have been exercised to the extent of making choice of parents and posterity.” -Joseph Fielding Smith, The Way to Perfection
In the April 2024 General Conference, Elder Shane Bowen mentioned that his deceased son was a guardian angel for his family. I listened to that talk again today just after watching to your video and thought I’d share that.
We are in a family already in premortal .... We just come down to earth in chosen family groups in different eras.... Thats what i believe.
Amazing video Jared. I've had a warmness accompanied feeling that my Mom who is 60 will not taste of death until the second coming.\
Can anyone please help me interpret this, please?
If it is just a feeling no one can help you . Can you look at your mom’s PB and see how it is worded . Any hints there . Or statements . Does it say come forth in the morning of the first resurrection ? My moms had said that she would come with the savior and be one of his jewels. And that she would come forth in the morning of the first resurrection. Her body and her spirit never to be divided again . And this was way back when she was young .we were just teens and said is she going to die . She was 34 then . 20 years later she died at 64. . So see if her blessing says anything . I have a cousin 66 who has a PB that says she will live to see the millennium come . Then president Nelson says us our children and grand children will be the ones to receive the savior second coming. That’s the baby boomers their kids and grand kids .
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@@lindamartinez7006 She's been told she'll wake up during the first morning as long as she keeps doing good. She's an amazing Mom.
I've been told I wouldn't be there when the big disasters strike and that I'll be "Preserved to rise up during the first morning of the Resurrection.
My guess is that I'll be gone for a really short time but any help figuring this out is welcome! :thumbs_up:
I'm a Millennial from the late 80's and hoo boy do I look forward to the second coming!! 😄
This video is timely - my kids and I were just talking about this earlier today! I don't know if someone has told them that they chose their parents and siblings (maybe my husband has said that 🤷🏼♀️), but I'm fairly certain I haven't, because I was never totally sure if it was true. But in any case, they believe it's true even at their young ages. I personally have felt strongly that my husband and I have received all of the children that were assigned to us, but we both have had strong promptings to adopt a baby (we are still working through that process). I don't know if this is like "plan B" due to other people's agency, or what. But I do know that God will provide an eternal family for every single one of His children who desire and choose that.
When my dad saw my mom for the first time. The spirt told him and He knew that was the girl he was to marry. When I saw my husband for the first time I was told by the spirit he was the man I was to marry. I had no idea who he was. I lived in Utah he lived in West Virginia. My moms blessing said all her children were her friends before we came to earth. I believe there is a plan and the spirit helps us to follow the plan. Its not a roll of the dice.
Heavenly experience on earth for experience and spiritual growth, and hellish experience for spiritual growth.
There's actually quite a few quotes on this, including from presidents of the Church and apostles. I've never known if I should send them or not. The temple also touches on this.
This John Taylor quote is often the starting point for the discussion. Yes, I am aware of the Spencer W. Kimball and Joseph Fielding Smith quotes.
I would love to see more quotes if you'd like to share!
Jared Kolob is not a real planet . Kolob is Jesus Christ . Another name for Jesus .
@@celestiallymindedsaints What's your e-mail address?
@@celestiallymindedsaints I don't know how to get them to you.
@@CMZIEBARTH it might be too much, but if not, you could copy and paste them as a reply maybe. 🤷🏼♀️ It's okay if it's too much or not possible to share :)
It is definitely true.
It's something I was taught from a young age but after researching for myself came to the conclusion it isn't doctrine that we chose our family though I'm sure there are a few cases where it has happened.
I certainly won't be teaching it as doctrine, I've not found quotes from anyone with authority who has made the claim and it wouldn't make any sense in many cases. My dad for example had other children to another woman in an extramarital relationship.
It's a great idea if the marriage/ family works out but if not it's hard to believe it was chosen.
My mom told me this when I was a kid and I remember thinking, "really? that doesn't feel right." My family has since fallen apart. Makes me wonder what the plan was and when it first fell apart.
@@lizh7777 Who builds families and who destroys them? We simply just don’t see the full picture yet
This is such an interesting subject, and I have mixed feelings about this. I have often felt like I was sent to my family as a missionary. I don't think I would have chosen the family I have for several reasons which are of a personal matter. Just like missionaries or members dont get to select missions or callings. I think that family assignments are more like a mission or a calling. I do think I agreed to the mission or the calling. Then, I was set apart in heaven before going.
Just a different train of thought.
I think it fits the narrative better.
Can we look at the king follet discourse, maybe look at Joseph’s last dream etc… trying to recall if Joseph’s dream spoke of boats etc… had lots of boat crashes lately. Love your stuff tho.
***As same up its the same down, when you send your application to be missionary, you never before choose the country or mission to serve, in fact some missionaries change the missions for many causes. Otherwise, where is the agency?***
I find this an interesting topic and wonder if some of this is propagated by ideas like the play and/or movie "Saturday's Warrior" where the whole play/movie is set on families and friends were established in the pre-existence.
An odd question ,given the rampant mental illness in my present family...having a vague remembrance of having chosen those to come to earth with, I'm still wondering why...
Maybe John Taylor was talking specifically to that woman and not to all.
Maybe its like being called on a mission.
Like we report to the MTC for preparation: the Mortality Training Center?
I don't think choosing you family is always the case, as my P.B. states that I was assigned to my family to receive specific blessings. I know that genetics and family lines are very important as well as being born within the covenant. The things we agreed to do in the pre-mortal realm specifically for this life also play a great role.
I liked this really well
Tried to take notes on it and had to rewind several times
Would you email me an outline on this
Would love to dig deeper into this
When doing genealogy I find myself wondering about so many things you’ve covered here
Thank so much for this post
Adam and Eve were the first arranged marriage
Some may but i don't know if all do.
How does one reconcile the viewpoint at 7:22 with that expressed at 14:34? If you met the person you previously loved and chose to be with in the mortal life (and beyond), since it says you were kindred spirits in the previous spiritual worlds, would their bond on earth not honestly be called a "soul" mate relationship? They were already loving each other and kindred spirits in the realm of the soul, the spiritual world. If a woman chooses her Head in the spiritual world, why would any of many other men suffice for her on Earth, making it almost a random process?
What difference does it make? I don't necessarily believe it is true.
I think it can help for people to find faith and love of God in their crappy family situation. It’s hard to explain to other people but knowing it was completely planned for and that you were in on the plan has really helped me deal with some difficult family stuff.
Please, please reread your script before recording it! Keep up your good work! Thanks. In advance!
Hasn't this kinda been debunked as "Saturday's Warrior" doctrine? I am open to it if true.
However, if we chose our spouse in the pre-existance. what if that person isn't there because of some accident or their own choices. Are we just hosed?
The problem I have with this level of "LDS Calvinism" is that it seems to fly in the face of free will or agency
Not trying to add fuel to the fire here... just showing that there is a diversity of opinion on this topic
@@nathangreer8219 There are true teachings on this.
I appreciate your insight. I think yes and no. The scriptural evidence for the idea of organized families is the scriptures prophesying of Christ, his earthly ancestry and other prophets. Like how Nephi saw Christ and Mary, for one example.
It's a good question, do we truly have free will if God prophesys it?
Some of this comes from productions like Saturdays Warriors and so on in some patriarchal blessings.
What patriarchs don’t go off movies for blessings .
I dont believe that this is correct for everyone in fact I know its not. Remember not everyone comes from perfect little mormon families, sure some did but not everyone did.
It does not say anything about my husband
It's not predetermined.....
It's pre selected