Masterfully explained and much-needed video! The 3rd case was the most complex and I have seen it VMC explaining once during flight w/ double bearings-- but now thiis is all clear. Kudos Gavin.
What a great video and clear explanation. Thanks again by your fantastic lessons and continue the great work on this channel that I'm always and daily following.
But Captain during a Sim interview we will not have this program SimSmart A320 Neo performance calculator, so how we will find the escape route point ??
Hi. Thanks for the helpful guide. In the case of LIMC, I don't understand why the EFAIL point was further south than the SRN VOR. This way it looks as if the aircraft should return to the SRN VOR and then enter HOLD
@@Easyjetsimpilot I followed this video along whilst in the simulator and noticed the the odd drawing so I drew a couple of radials using fix info and noticed there is actually no intersection between the 120 degree radial on the user defined waypoint and the 330 degree radial of SRN. I did a bit more testing and realised if there’s no intersection for two radials, it will draw the reciprocal of one of them until they do meet so in this case the Airbus drew the 330 degree radial back through SRN as the 150 degree radial until it met the 120 degree radial of the user defined waypoint (just south-east of SRN). I guess the procedure takes into account the distance you cover in the turn from runway heading to 120 after passing the 8.0 NM point and expects you to intercept the 330 radial from your position after you’ve finished the turn. To make the procedure slightly more accurate you could add another waypoint slightly further north of the 8.0 NM point and use that for the 120/330 degree intersection. That way you’ll arrive at the holding point from the north west which is much more suitable for an inbound course of 125 in the pattern.
Literally been crying out for a tutorial on the secondary flight plan and this is exactly what I’ve been looking for! Quick question, do we climb to the initial climb and stay at initial climb if we are following the EO procedure? Or would this usually be instructed by ATC?
So, let's summarize. I understood how to set alternate flight plan and barely understood where to get the data to program. But I completely do not understand the procedure. Let me think of it: 1) I fill alternate flight plan on take off 2) During Flight Planning Briefing I say: if engine failures, I activate alternate flight plan. The aircraft activates it's holding pattern and then lands at the Origin Airport manually. 3) If everything goes normally, I continue my flight and change alternate flight plan to alternate DEST airport on flight, correct? 4) If something goes wrong in cruise, I manually land an aircraft at suitable airport? Or I need to edit my alternate flight plan once more?
@ thanks for the reply mate , love your work and watch your videos all the time , you have been a great help to many of us simmers so thanks , appreciate it.
Nice video, especially for someone who hasn't yet had the chance to play with secondary F-PLN's. However: At 22:50, the EFAIL WPT appears to be behind the SRN VOR and its holding pattern when at 18:34 you say it should be way further north. Was your gesture just very much not to scale or was there some error when entering the EFAIL WPT?
I think it might have been the programming. And this might be just a bug. What Gav did was technically correct. Basically say I want that EFAIL waypoint to be 120° from the PRB04 waypoint and on the 330° radial from SRN. But it seemed to think that meant 330° inbound to SRN. Which would have been on the reciprocal radial of 150°. I’m not sure if this is just a bug or how the real aircraft works it out. I’d need to play and look. But close recognition of where these waypoints are being placed is pretty critical and yes, the EFAIL was in the incorrect place. The definition that should work would be “PBD-120/SRN-150”. This should place the EFAIL waypoint to the NW of SRN so you can then intercept and fly the 330° radial inbound to it (flying 150°) to take up the hold. Then just enter the hold in whatever entry that’s required. I’m not sure if this would be the correct way to define it or if there’s just some anomaly with the FMGC where you might need to use the reciprocal radial if you’re defining waypoints using bearings. 👍
Masterfully explained and much-needed video! The 3rd case was the most complex and I have seen it VMC explaining once during flight w/ double bearings-- but now thiis is all clear. Kudos Gavin.
Excellent tutorial, currently on my A320 conversion course and you gave the best explanation for this lesson ! Thank you
Glad it was helpful!
Wonderful Gav! I followed them all with Navigraph being at the respective airports. This video is a great tutorial!
I just subscribed after watching this video!!! Great one thank you!
So much information with so many details and so well explained! Thank you very much sir.
Just about to go do my APS MCC course on the A320. Invaluable stuff this, thx a bunch 😁
What a great video and clear explanation. Thanks again by your fantastic lessons and continue the great work on this channel that I'm always and daily following.
But Captain during a Sim interview we will not have this program SimSmart A320 Neo performance calculator, so how we will find the escape route point ??
Engine out proceedures are usually airline specific and provided to pilots by the airlines.
Thank you
Very interesting as usual
vary interest you are one of my favourite youtubers
Thnaks, i finnaly got the Fenix and with rhis i can learn easy since we don't have sec fp in fbw
Excellent video/Tuition!!!…Full view/Like
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Yiannis (Athens Greece)
remarkable information. that was beyond useful. cheers
Hey. Thanks for the tutorial!
How to build a EOP without SimSmart hints, just using navigraph charts? Thanks
Hi. Thanks for the helpful guide. In the case of LIMC, I don't understand why the EFAIL point was further south than the SRN VOR. This way it looks as if the aircraft should return to the SRN VOR and then enter HOLD
Yes, I believe this is a slight drawing bug in the Fenix.
@@Easyjetsimpilot I followed this video along whilst in the simulator and noticed the the odd drawing so I drew a couple of radials using fix info and noticed there is actually no intersection between the 120 degree radial on the user defined waypoint and the 330 degree radial of SRN. I did a bit more testing and realised if there’s no intersection for two radials, it will draw the reciprocal of one of them until they do meet so in this case the Airbus drew the 330 degree radial back through SRN as the 150 degree radial until it met the 120 degree radial of the user defined waypoint (just south-east of SRN). I guess the procedure takes into account the distance you cover in the turn from runway heading to 120 after passing the 8.0 NM point and expects you to intercept the 330 radial from your position after you’ve finished the turn. To make the procedure slightly more accurate you could add another waypoint slightly further north of the 8.0 NM point and use that for the 120/330 degree intersection. That way you’ll arrive at the holding point from the north west which is much more suitable for an inbound course of 125 in the pattern.
Literally been crying out for a tutorial on the secondary flight plan and this is exactly what I’ve been looking for! Quick question, do we climb to the initial climb and stay at initial climb if we are following the EO procedure? Or would this usually be instructed by ATC?
This is your choice and you'd mention it in your pre-flight brief.
You'd get yourself upto a safe Altitude at or above MSA.
in the box for eng out procedure appears "coming soon". I tried with several airport even with that you used for the tutorial. Nothing to do
Thanks, Very interesting as usual !!!! Do you schedule a vidéo abour GO AROUND procedures ? (with AP on/off,after touch down etc...)
GREAT Video, But where can I find the EO Procedure in general? Are there any charts for those in real Life?
EO proceedures are airline specific, so they are not on any charts.
Does clicking SEC F-PLAN activate it?
So, let's summarize. I understood how to set alternate flight plan and barely understood where to get the data to program.
But I completely do not understand the procedure. Let me think of it:
1) I fill alternate flight plan on take off
2) During Flight Planning Briefing I say: if engine failures, I activate alternate flight plan. The aircraft activates it's holding pattern and then lands at the Origin Airport manually.
3) If everything goes normally, I continue my flight and change alternate flight plan to alternate DEST airport on flight, correct?
4) If something goes wrong in cruise, I manually land an aircraft at suitable airport? Or I need to edit my alternate flight plan once more?
So we can enter the secondary flight plan, but what's the steps for activating that if needed? Would you click on FLT PLN and select secondary?
On the SEC F-PLN page, you'd select the ACTIVATE button.
@@Easyjetsimpilot Excellent! Many thanks Gav!
I have the latest version of SimSmart but it does not show engineout procedure. It says “Coming soon”. Is there another version of SimSart for that?
Not all airports have this feature implemented. More are being added all the time.
How many secondary flt plns you can preset? Only one or...
Just one.
Dose Navigraph have any engine out info hiding anywhere ??
No as EO info is airline specific.
@ thanks for the reply mate , love your work and watch your videos all the time , you have been a great help to many of us simmers so thanks , appreciate it.
Nice video, especially for someone who hasn't yet had the chance to play with secondary F-PLN's. However:
At 22:50, the EFAIL WPT appears to be behind the SRN VOR and its holding pattern when at 18:34 you say it should be way further north. Was your gesture just very much not to scale or was there some error when entering the EFAIL WPT?
I think it might have been the programming. And this might be just a bug. What Gav did was technically correct. Basically say I want that EFAIL waypoint to be 120° from the PRB04 waypoint and on the 330° radial from SRN. But it seemed to think that meant 330° inbound to SRN. Which would have been on the reciprocal radial of 150°.
I’m not sure if this is just a bug or how the real aircraft works it out. I’d need to play and look.
But close recognition of where these waypoints are being placed is pretty critical and yes, the EFAIL was in the incorrect place. The definition that should work would be “PBD-120/SRN-150”. This should place the EFAIL waypoint to the NW of SRN so you can then intercept and fly the 330° radial inbound to it (flying 150°) to take up the hold. Then just enter the hold in whatever entry that’s required.
I’m not sure if this would be the correct way to define it or if there’s just some anomaly with the FMGC where you might need to use the reciprocal radial if you’re defining waypoints using bearings. 👍
I have a high end pc... The Fenix just tanks my frame rate recently. Has anyone experienced this??
awesome, thanks!
You're welcome.
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