Bowdens description of the block is just how u remember it, empty cell with nothing in it except a pisspot, your mattress and blanket would be thrown in at lights out 8pm and taken away in the morning 6.30am, they might let you out for exercise or a shower after a few days if you've behaved yourself sometimes you would be offered a book but for the most part it was an empty concrete box, winter time was the worst time to be down the block because the screws would keep the heating off or down so low it felt like it was off, that was brutal, i was manageable in summertime just about.
Coincidentally, this piece of library music at 9:28 was regularly used in the TV series "Prisoner: Cell Block H", set in a women's prison and originally broadcast between 1979 and 1986.
Luckily my longest stint down the block was 11weeks and it just makes you hate and wreak havoc or have a grudge against a certain screw that doesn't like you . And it does fuck your head in too a little bit.
I remember as a young offender being put on a “rule” for subversive activities which you would be told was 28 days. This time would often be extended for 2 and 3 months at a time,simply because they believed the institution would run better with you not on the main wings. The only difference from a rule to punishment was they allowed you to keep your mattress all day,the rest was the same. The brutality in segs was disturbing back then,skinny young boys being kicked around by men,prisoners being taunted into suicide,the list was endless
@@jasonantigua6825 you’ve obviously never done any time if you think a rule only means 43. The rule we were put on was 34 and came under the bracket of “subversive activities”
You get two kinds of people in prison , those that keep their heads down and get on with their sentence and then there are those who like to be heard and fight back against the system ( whether physically or theoretically) but both types of those people can indeed end up down the block dependent on what screws are on the landing on any given day ?
My late father (who was once an AG) always said that prisons were full of highly intelligent prisoners who were completely innocent and never ever told untruths!
You will find that you are treated the same way in or out of prison... if you are alright then you will be treated alright by screws and inmates... push boundaries and you will get pushed back...
I was down the block in the scubs in 1992 door open like 4 in the moring....get up yr on the move like fuck i said that was that i was on the M1 heading north 2 hmp durham....
Charlie magee's case needs investigating. He spent days in a sweatbox, moving from prison to prison and each prison refused to take him in... Heart attack at a young age...
Prison officers wouldn't get away with this today, there home addresses would be compromised and they would pay a price, basically I was in the system in late 90s, the mobile phone with cameras is what spun this abuse, photos were taken to I'D thes cowards bullies, prison officers had to change , they were getting good terrorised, a lot them were arrested around the 2000 mark,
I was an officer for 30 years in various jails across cat A down to local. The majority of us only react to the situations prisoners put us in.A lot of inmates have got their own way in society by bullying and violence, we don’t accept that and one of ways we have to manage it for the safety of us and other inmates is to send them on 28 day lay downs to other prisons.How else are you going to manage it, we try negotiating but nothing works , that’s what we do.
Many Sociologists subscribe to the theory that, a society gets the criminals it deserves. These stories must go some way to proving the Sociologists are correct.
You dont here old charly bronson moaning about seg,, now he would have plenty to say, he been in seg 50 odd years, i love Charlie bronson, he is or was a madd man, he is a real man,, he can handle any thing thay chuck at him, he then littraly chucks it back,,😂😂😂😂😂😂🫣💪💪💪👏👏👏
Excellent documentary. I think there was another one in the same series, called the Hate Factory.
I vaguely remember that was it about Wandsworth
It's on here!
Chris Hague was my cousin, hearing his voice again was heart warming
Great channel love the posts, proper old Skool
Bowdens description of the block is just how u remember it, empty cell with nothing in it except a pisspot, your mattress and blanket would be thrown in at lights out 8pm and taken away in the morning 6.30am, they might let you out for exercise or a shower after a few days if you've behaved yourself sometimes you would be offered a book but for the most part it was an empty concrete box, winter time was the worst time to be down the block because the screws would keep the heating off or down so low it felt like it was off, that was brutal, i was manageable in summertime just about.
Coincidentally, this piece of library music at 9:28 was regularly used in the TV series "Prisoner: Cell Block H", set in a women's prison and originally broadcast between 1979 and 1986.
Luckily my longest stint down the block was 11weeks and it just makes you hate and wreak havoc or have a grudge against a certain screw that doesn't like you . And it does fuck your head in too a little bit.
2:10 they call that diesel therapy in the States.
I remember as a young offender being put on a “rule” for subversive activities which you would be told was 28 days. This time would often be extended for 2 and 3 months at a time,simply because they believed the institution would run better with you not on the main wings. The only difference from a rule to punishment was they allowed you to keep your mattress all day,the rest was the same. The brutality in segs was disturbing back then,skinny young boys being kicked around by men,prisoners being taunted into suicide,the list was endless
Rule 43? Nonce ?
@@jasonantigua6825 you’ve obviously never done any time if you think a rule only means 43. The rule we were put on was 34 and came under the bracket of “subversive activities”
@@gary_248 yeah alright
Don’t do the crime
utterly ridiculous that the powers that be can use this draconian rule with impunity
I feel ashamed to be human.
Astonishing documentary, showing the true nature of the prison system. How does anyone think these institutions exist for public protection?
because they do
Simple. They don't deserve anything more. Now or then. Sickens me that e should be made to feel guilty about these animals
So you want convicted murderers rapists and kiddie fiddlers on the streets?
@@LordknowswhereGTF.
You get two kinds of people in prison , those that keep their heads down and get on with their sentence and then there are those who like to be heard and fight back against the system ( whether physically or theoretically) but both types of those people can indeed end up down the block dependent on what screws are on the landing on any given day ?
World in action needs to be bought back
My late father (who was once an AG) always said that prisons were full of highly intelligent prisoners who were completely innocent and never ever told untruths!
I remember John well vrommy ti e in LL. I believe he has passed now. R. I .p John
It didn’t bother me doing 7 days down the block my head was fucked by that point anyway
Hmp Northumberland is most northern
You will find that you are treated the same way in or out of prison... if you are alright then you will be treated alright by screws and inmates... push boundaries and you will get pushed back...
I was down the block in the scubs in 1992 door open like 4 in the moring....get up yr on the move like fuck i said that was that i was on the M1 heading north 2 hmp durham....
And this is exactly what they're doing to Julian Assange.
Charlie magee's case needs investigating. He spent days in a sweatbox, moving from prison to prison and each prison refused to take him in... Heart attack at a young age...
Prison officers wouldn't get away with this today, there home addresses would be compromised and they would pay a price, basically I was in the system in late 90s, the mobile phone with cameras is what spun this abuse, photos were taken to I'D thes cowards bullies, prison officers had to change , they were getting good terrorised, a lot them were arrested around the 2000 mark,
I was an officer for 30 years in various jails across cat A down to local. The majority of us only react to the situations prisoners put us in.A lot of inmates have got their own way in society by bullying and violence, we don’t accept that and one of ways we have to manage it for the safety of us and other inmates is to send them on 28 day lay downs to other prisons.How else are you going to manage it, we try negotiating but nothing works , that’s what we do.
@@Alanhock75 it’s still possible to send someone on a lay down without the brutality
They do mate
@@gary_248 I’ve beefed on plenty of 1074 lay down escorts,don’t remember the brutality
@@Alanhock75 most don’t,but some do
well its now 2022 nothing has changed, its bloody barbaric!
It's a jungle outside chokey look at lunatics about in the news....
Bowden. Who did he murder and under what circumstances?
murderpedia.org/male.B/b/bowden-john.htm
Many Sociologists subscribe to the theory that, a society gets the criminals it deserves. These stories must go some way to proving the Sociologists are correct.
Carrot and stick has never worked. Stick and stick is much better. If the first stick breaks you get the other one.
I hope this lad gets a win , Home office are disgusting
Yeah everyone inside is innocent 🤣🤡🤣🤡
Cons v screws always
Don't do the crime simple
The hole system is corrupt … from the top down..
Alot of prisoners used violence and bullying outside prison...funny how the same prisoners complain about the same thing in jail.
It's still the same now
WTF did they do to that theme tune? A disgrace!
You dont here old charly bronson moaning about seg,, now he would have plenty to say, he been in seg 50 odd years, i love Charlie bronson, he is or was a madd man, he is a real man,, he can handle any thing thay chuck at him, he then littraly chucks it back,,😂😂😂😂😂😂🫣💪💪💪👏👏👏
And the Death Wish movies are ace 😜
Prisons remain places of dehumanisation