What you need for a LEGIT home studio setup

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  • @Worgram
    @Worgram 2 роки тому +28

    To be fair, every Pro-studio I was in including the Kohlekeller Studios had cubase as their first daw :D Other than that: Reaper is free to use for 60 days and can be downloaded even as a portable version for your ssd etc. so you can technically work at every place that has wifi and about 50mb for Reaper free on their harddisk.

    • @GC-nd1lp
      @GC-nd1lp 10 місяців тому

      Cubase is much more popular in Europe for whatever reason. Almost all major studios in NA are going to be running Pro Tools.

  • @wallofsheep5645
    @wallofsheep5645 Рік тому +17

    "... only things that you need ..." like a $2000 Mac (for next to no good reason) and Protools... you don't NEED either of these. I run my studio on a refurbed $400 Lenovo Tiny Windows PC, with Reaper as a DAW and no problems. Don't blame the tools.

    • @ismellpedo
      @ismellpedo Рік тому

      How often are you recording and mixing bands or sessions with high track counts? How many clients are you managing with that setup?

  • @dafo115
    @dafo115 2 роки тому +159

    PC works just fine if you choose good components. Idk why producers are obsessed with Macs. Use what gets the job done.

    • @christhembones8244
      @christhembones8244 Рік тому +23

      Macs are great but you can get the job down with half the price or a refurbished PC.

    • @jondaniels3774
      @jondaniels3774 Рік тому +59

      I spent most of my time troubleshooting my PC instead of recording music. I made the investment in a Mac I haven’t had to troubleshooting it once. It just works.

    • @christhembones8244
      @christhembones8244 Рік тому +4

      @@jondaniels3774 yes, Windows is not perfect but it may also depend the version software your DAW running. Newer DAW versions require faster processing speed, memory, etc. The number of tracks, plug-ins, unnecessary applications running in background can also effect.

    • @jondaniels3774
      @jondaniels3774 Рік тому +14

      @@christhembones8244 yes. I understand all of that. I’m just speaking from my own experience. I’m a computer guy. I’ve built many a PC. As for DAWS. I’ve tried Reason, Cubase, Adobe Audition, Studio One (and they were all legit purchases/not cracked) time and time again I ran into issues. I shutdown every background task, scanned constantly for viruses/adware/malware, kept checking registry settings, firmware updates for any and all connected devices, checked drivers to make sure they were up to date, researched if anyone had issues with the various components I had, such as sound cards, etc. as well as software. In many cases it was difficult to find an answer due to the fact that PCs have an endless variety of potential configurations / the odds of finding someone with my exact (or even similar) configuration who was also recording and mixing audio with it was slim to none.
      I wasted an enormous amount of time troubleshooting issues (when I’d fix one problem, another would randomly pop up a week or two).
      As a PC owner at the time, I resisted for many years using macs because I thought they were just way overpriced. If a person is just going to use their computer to do the basics such as email, web browsing, etc: PC is the way to go. But for anyone who doesn’t want to be bothered fussing with maintenance and instead wants to focus on music (especially if time = money) Mac is the way to go. Personally, I envy guys who have studios that run PCs.

    • @officialWWM
      @officialWWM Рік тому

      @@jondaniels3774the problem is you…

  • @serge1643
    @serge1643 2 роки тому +9

    I use a PC, Reaper DAW, Behringer PHORIA UMC1820, Focusrite Solo, AKG Drum Set Session I, AT2035, Fluid Audio F4, ATH M20 x, ATH M30x, AMT Reincarnator, Plugins from Waves and iZotope. And yes, I have a tambourine.

    • @oskarwroniewicz
      @oskarwroniewicz 2 роки тому +3

      What do you use the Scarlett Solo for if you have the multi-input Behringer?

    • @serge1643
      @serge1643 2 роки тому +2

      @@oskarwroniewicz at home, I have enough Focusrite Solo for mixing and it is more compact.

  • @samellis012
    @samellis012 2 роки тому +40

    You forgot all the leads and mic stands you need as well as headphones for tracking, the cost adds up quickly

  • @lodougherty
    @lodougherty 2 роки тому +60

    I remember when Joey Sturgis was very anti reaper, then he tried it, dived into it and never looked back coming from Cubase and Pro tools.

    • @jdwdrums
      @jdwdrums 2 роки тому +6

      Lol he for sure still uses Cubase.

    • @gaetanclybouw
      @gaetanclybouw Рік тому +1

      Joey is a pro, he could make any DAW work

    • @ianparker5007
      @ianparker5007 Рік тому +3

      The reaper community and plugin devs rock. ❤

    • @SlyHikari03
      @SlyHikari03 4 місяці тому +1

      I'm more of a Studio One person.
      Reaper doesn't like my mac that much tbh, never got it to work for what i do.

  • @JasonBuffin
    @JasonBuffin 2 роки тому +12

    I can't understand why you would want to track through plugins ever. Track through real preamps, of course. Carbon is a really limiting choice and I would rather use UAD with the unison technology. But I still don't think any DSP is really necessary. I think you're better off getting something from RME, MOTU or maybe even Focusrite rednet. Much less money with way more flexibility. I think protools only matters for 2 reasons: you're used to it or you have to work in pro studios in LA, NYC, or Nashville. Otherwise, just use whatever you want to mix. I like your microphone choices. I would probably add a solid outboard bus comp to the list.

    • @LuLeBe
      @LuLeBe 6 місяців тому

      why the compressor? Seems like a weird investment for a home studio. You can probably get really good simulations of 10 analog pieces for the price of one real unit.

    • @Man.Well93
      @Man.Well93 18 днів тому +1

      Of course you are wrong. There are plenty of plugins out there that sound better than the hardware, especially since they are much easier and more versatile to use.

  • @CelloFranc
    @CelloFranc Рік тому

    Very good info here! Just bought a new mic SM57

    • @Man.Well93
      @Man.Well93 18 днів тому +1

      amazing news man. you're about the first to do so! very rare mic.

  • @legacyShredder1
    @legacyShredder1 2 роки тому +1

    Headphone amp/routing system, headphones for engineer and musicians, mic stands (short and booms,) music stands for charts, mic cables, patch cables, loads of gaffer's tape, air freshener.

  • @ianmunn
    @ianmunn 2 роки тому +5

    I find myself working on plenty of projects where the mix has already started and the buffer size needs to go up whilst tracking. That’s where UAD Console is super handy, so agree on the DSP thing. But that’s precisely why amp sims don’t cut it for me. For latency free monitoring a Kemper, Fractal etc or a load box is essential.

    • @RealHomeRecording
      @RealHomeRecording 2 роки тому +1

      You're right but what it usually boils down to is people's budget!

    • @TazzSmk
      @TazzSmk 2 роки тому

      it's very simple to bounce/freeze the mix, do additional tracking, and unfreeze again when mixing ;)

    • @ianmunn
      @ianmunn 2 роки тому +1

      @@TazzSmk I prefer to not freeze tracks and find it a PIA

    • @Yhago8120
      @Yhago8120 Рік тому

      @@ianmunn PIA?

    • @ianmunn
      @ianmunn Рік тому +2

      @@Yhago8120 Pain in the ass- inconvenient

  • @ADrummersDelight
    @ADrummersDelight 2 роки тому +10

    When it comes to interfaces, i bought myself a Zoom L-20R. It has 16 Mic/Jack inputs and a lot of mono/stereo outputs because it was designed for a live situation. As i have when i track my band during the rehersal. The preamps are okish, every channel has a built in pad and that is essential cause they will clip from the lowest signal. But it does the trick for all my needs and it sounds great. Unless you are recording Céline Dion, thats a very good bang for the buck. With an reaper licence and a intel nuc Computer this setup cost me about 1000€ two years ago.

    • @Reakerboy
      @Reakerboy 11 місяців тому

      Great choice! I'm running the Zoom also, it's great! And I'm getting studio quality recordings. 👍🏻

  • @TicManFlorida
    @TicManFlorida 9 місяців тому

    Ive used mixcraft pro 9 for long time. Also zoom L20 board. Weve recorded some amazing work with these 2. We run a LIVE stage recording studio. It's a unique set up that is rarely seen or done.

  • @mankepoot9440
    @mankepoot9440 Місяць тому +1

    I use a portable cassetteplayer with build in microphone. But i can't sing or play so that is no issue.

  • @SteveRiddleGuitar
    @SteveRiddleGuitar 8 місяців тому

    I upgraded to Carbon about a year ago and am also running two of the older Platinum Octopres via ADAT which gives me 24 inputs :) I’m super happy with my new setup and tracking with no latency has been amazing!

  • @christhembones8244
    @christhembones8244 Рік тому +5

    I’ve found a condenser mic in combination with a dynamic mic works great with thick sound on heavy guitars. Saw Black Sabbath engineer say they used on Tony Iommi’s guitars so I tried and liked it.

    • @LuLeBe
      @LuLeBe 6 місяців тому

      Yeah, combining two mics (ribbon mics are another option!) really allows to dial in a precise sound in between 2 extremes.

  • @TicManFlorida
    @TicManFlorida 9 місяців тому

    Also use an ev nd96 as main vocal mic. The gain before feedback is excellent and noise rejection is spot on

  • @niteshades_promise
    @niteshades_promise Рік тому +2

    So true. 8 mics/inputs are not enough for drums. I need 16!!! Definitely need a hihat tambourine too.🍻

    • @LuLeBe
      @LuLeBe 6 місяців тому +1

      Truly depends on the music though. many bands have no or just 2 toms. Or they have a bit of PA equipment and can run 2 snare mics into a mixer and then use just one channel. Yes, less flexible, but the setup suggested in this video is only for dentists anyways, so most will need to compromise.

  • @chrisburkhardt4902
    @chrisburkhardt4902 6 місяців тому

    Great list!! I opted for a Kemper and I have to say, the day of physical amps/cabs is gone...at least when it comes to recording and studios. I love my amps and cabs, but I moved them all to storage after getting the Kemper. It just makes more sense in terms of space usage when space is limited. I also have delved into the world of 500 series gear and love it. I think that might be something worth looking into for anyone who is looking to shave some money off of analog gear and/or save some space in their rack.

  • @TheMcinku
    @TheMcinku 2 роки тому +12

    Your argument for Pro Tools is all major pro studio are using it... but purpose for having a 'legit' home studio is, you don't need a pro studio anymore. So why pay for PT, there are more affordable options out there, which can give you even more then PT.

  • @badmonkeymusicproductions3569
    @badmonkeymusicproductions3569 2 роки тому +2

    Great list, and I agree. As you secondary SDC I chose the Beyerdynamic M201TG for about $300
    My go-to LDC is the Lauten Audio 387.
    Also, for more intimate vocals the Mojave Audio M300 tube mic.

    • @Dwolfmusic
      @Dwolfmusic 2 роки тому +2

      A m201 is a dynamic mic not a Sdc. Great mic tho

    • @legacyShredder1
      @legacyShredder1 2 роки тому +1

      @@Dwolfmusic You, sir, are correct. I see people making the same typology mistake kind of often, really.

    • @badmonkeymusicproductions3569
      @badmonkeymusicproductions3569 2 роки тому

      @@Dwolfmusic Yes sir. I should've said my alternate in place of an SDC. "moving coil" = dynamic

    • @RealHomeRecording
      @RealHomeRecording 2 роки тому +1

      @@badmonkeymusicproductions3569 shiver me timbers and moves me coils!

    • @stupendousmusic4190
      @stupendousmusic4190 2 роки тому

      @@Dwolfmusic Agreed!

  • @andrewtolson2566
    @andrewtolson2566 Рік тому

    Ive been saying for years the 4050 is about the best workhorse mic ever made. People blow it off. Thank you for validating my opinion.

  • @CodyMWI
    @CodyMWI 8 місяців тому

    Yup he is right on. I would add a Neumann large diaphragm or a good clone, An 1176 compressor or good clone, and honestly the only other thing is an 88 key weighted midi controller . Also I would maybe sub in is the new ssl pure drive 8 preamps over the focusrite.
    Great list!

  • @helmanfrow
    @helmanfrow 2 роки тому

    Just to get pedantic: The AT4050 is billed as a LDC but its diaphragm is 21.4mm in diameter which makes it more of a medium-diaphragm mic.

  • @justme-eb6lz
    @justme-eb6lz 10 місяців тому +1

    late comment but.... you didnt mention one of the most important thing....acustic response of your studio! i find that eventualy you will have to add some(obsorvers,bass traps ext..) to your existing setup

  • @compucorder64
    @compucorder64 6 місяців тому

    I like Beta 52A for kicks too. And Electro-voice RE-20 is a another nice, less warm, but more articulate alternative to the SM7b, that can work on vocals, cabs and kick. SM7b sound nice on small tube bass amps like Ampeg B-15 / PF-20T/ PF-50. Speaking of which, an Ampeg PF-20T does great quadruple duty as a bass amp, clean pedal platform tube guitar amp and bass / guitar DI with transformer. And something like a GAP Pre 73 is good both for vocal mic pre, kick pre and bass or guitar DI. When starting out, things that can be used in multiple scenarious are most useful. For example Line Audio CM4 Stereo SDCs, or Oktava MK-012s are good for overheads and for acoustic guitar, at about 250 a pair. I also like Austrian Audio OC16 414-style LDC mics for vocals, spoken word, guitar cab, bass cab and for toms, strings, piano, at about 650 a pair (which is still cheaper than the more limited Sennheiser MD-421-II's). The new Warm Audio WA-19 clone could be cool for drums / guitar cab duty too, at 200 each. The new SSL Quad Pure Drive is another good option. And yeah, 4 channels for starting out you can even the use 4 mic, 4-channel drum kit recording methods, which can sound great. I think a good affordable ribbon mic, or ribbon mic pair is good to have, and I like the GAP R1-A and the Cascade Fatheads. I think you probably want one good tube amp around, or at least a head with a Torpedo captor. Something Fender Deluxey, Vox AC-ish or Marshall JTM or Plexi ish (the 20 watt mini-heads are great studio tools). I like something like a Gretsch Brooklyn as an all round studio drum kit, or a Broadkaster if you want . With a set of Zildjian K's. Never NS-10s, I prefer what more modern monitors can do, and love my APS 2020 Klassiks but Hedd Type 07s are great too. Skimping on monitors, drum kits or amp is not a good idea. Vintera Tele/Strat/P-basses are good classic type guitars and basses. Les Paul Specials are good all-rounders that aren't as expensive as Standards too. Sire V5/V7 Jazz-bass style are good.

  • @Ross_Sandoval
    @Ross_Sandoval Рік тому +1

    ive been tired of vids saying "budget". i dont want budget i want the best haha this vid is perfect thank you

    • @josuastangl7140
      @josuastangl7140 Рік тому

      I 100% agree.
      Most of the time if someone says “budget”, it’s oriented towards hobbyists and it doesn’t offer much value for someone who wants to take this serious on a professional level.

  • @vault4455
    @vault4455 2 роки тому +2

    You have the videos that actually matter, great channel!

  • @nbl95
    @nbl95 2 роки тому

    I'm thinking about upgrading my mics, getting a nice preamp, and some nicer instruments just because I bought a bunch of cheap ass pawnshop mics and gear and i've pushed it as far as I think it can go. At some point there's just an extra 10% of clarity, depth, and polish that I'm missing out on. But what he said about getting an insanely nice piece of gear and still being at the same skill level is 100% true. I feel like I've paid my learning dues on the cheap shit now.

    • @legacyShredder1
      @legacyShredder1 2 роки тому

      What are your cheap pawnshop mics? Anything interesting?

  • @brandanleiter
    @brandanleiter 2 роки тому

    Gotta get that tambourine

  • @dougnval
    @dougnval 22 дні тому

    great vid. the only thing I would argue here is that computer should have minimum 32 gigs of ram. If you try running pro tools with an 8 gig setup, the latency issues will drive you crazy. Make sure the computer has "more than enough" ram to handle the load.

  • @jerrykroth
    @jerrykroth 9 місяців тому +1

    What's the total cost?

    • @guitarshop3227
      @guitarshop3227 6 днів тому

      Probs about $20k and then you need to think about the room also.

  • @adamphillips6747
    @adamphillips6747 2 роки тому +1

    I love my OX box for guitars! When I use mics lately I have loved the Lewitt 441 Flex and an SM57 combo.

  • @MrNoireclipse
    @MrNoireclipse 2 роки тому +2

    Hate Macs. Had one years ago and it kept having to go back to Apple for repairs and they kept billing me to fix it despite it actually being a design flaw that they got sued over. PC ever since and never had any issues.
    DAW: You can install Reaper on a USB stick and take it wherever you go.. No need to have DAW compatibility if you can take your DAW wherever you go.

  • @guitarplayer5932
    @guitarplayer5932 7 місяців тому

    i run studio one pro, presonus interface and 8 channels of adat so i record 16 channels, and record with zero latency, 16 channel presonus controller ,warm audio la2a,1073

  • @mrvron
    @mrvron 2 роки тому +4

    Pro Tools is where i disagree with you
    its is not compatible and carbon is not a best option, but i agree with UAD

  • @brandnewyou5254
    @brandnewyou5254 3 місяці тому

    I really like your video and I recommend just about everything there I play a PC but that's because it was affordable and this is 2024

  • @ClarityJustin
    @ClarityJustin Рік тому +1

    If i use the pre amp from api would the pre amp from the octo pre or my audio interface be added on as well?

    • @eweesplace
      @eweesplace 7 місяців тому

      I'd imagine you'd want to go api to ideally something that's direct to the converters, but that's not always doable depending on the interface. Then, it looks like octo pre for additional preamps via adat or something for other kit elements like toms, snare bottom, rooms, etc assuming the api 3124v is the only 4 channels of high end you've got

    • @rydog3701
      @rydog3701 2 місяці тому

      So the 4 API preamps would go to the lines in on the interface (assuming you have 4 analog ins). The UAD X8 has 4 unison preamps (you can use mic or line) and 4 extra lines in. So you would use the uad preamps for drums, send the API into lines 5-8 and add the focus rite octopre via the ADAT ports in the rear of the interface. The ADAT interface has its own conversion onboard and it uses the ADAT cable to basically send the information digitally to the UAD or alt interface, giving you 16 channels.

  • @joemayerski
    @joemayerski Рік тому

    "Hard to screw it up" challenge accepted, Jordan! LOL. Awesome video man always enjoy watching and learning!

  • @pdoherty6920
    @pdoherty6920 Рік тому +2

    Class video. Great job. Would love to hear your thoughts on the use of e drums triggering programs like superior vs recording drums in an "ok-ish" sounding space.

    • @RyanShaw-lb4ie
      @RyanShaw-lb4ie 11 місяців тому +1

      You didn't ask me but e-drums and a really good VST like Superior Drummer gets my vote. They take the best recording engineers, put them in the best sounding rooms, with the best drums, and record them with the best mics, then let you use those uncompressed audio files for like $200. It's much better and way less hassle than spending all that money and time on setting up, micing, and mixing a kit in a not-so-great room and trying to make it sound professional. Just my opinion

  • @metallicafan3124
    @metallicafan3124 2 роки тому

    love the new camera! Adds a lot to these vids

  • @TacomaEscape
    @TacomaEscape 2 роки тому +2

    Hey Jordan! Great vid! I would love to see a Little Labs Red Eye video of you setting it up and using it for re-amping guitars, and then using those in a mix. Would be cool to see how you’d nail a mix with this tool.

  • @TabascoVolta
    @TabascoVolta 2 роки тому +8

    Also recommend the Supraphonic for snare. tons of old beat up ones floating around on the cheap that still sound amazing.

    • @steverok67
      @steverok67 Рік тому

      Still my favorite drum of all time. I prefer it over the BB in most scenarios.

  • @CrazyRainbowHippie
    @CrazyRainbowHippie 11 місяців тому

    Hey Jordan, I’d be interested in how you’ve got your Mac Studio configured? I’m in the market for one and don’t want to skimp, but also not go overkill.

  • @nbd181
    @nbd181 2 роки тому +2

    I think this is all good stuff but the only thing I would add is an external hard drive for back ups. You did mention lots of space on the mac computer but still it will save your skin.

  • @Andrea.Cardenas
    @Andrea.Cardenas 15 днів тому

    I thought this would be easier 😅 Even though I’m a singer I’ve no clue what most of the mentioned things are (except for the PC, Interface, mic and instrument part obviously) so now I’m heading to google to look them up and learn more as it’s evident I’m quite ignorant on this subject 😂

  • @dansutherlandmusic
    @dansutherlandmusic 11 місяців тому

    Tambourine easily the most important

  • @mathewworkman1625
    @mathewworkman1625 Рік тому

    Excellent video.

  • @ericwassell9872
    @ericwassell9872 Рік тому

    Hey Jordan, I love your video quality on this video. What camera and lens are you using?

  • @abdrumtrack
    @abdrumtrack 2 роки тому +1

    Hey Jordan, thank you so much for everything you do here for us!!! just showing some love to your page... BTW The CRANBORNE AUDIO ADAT500 is so good for outboard gear!!!

  • @bradleyduer
    @bradleyduer 2 роки тому +2

    The most important aspect of your DAW is how well you know it.

  • @joemcleod2033
    @joemcleod2033 Рік тому +1

    Hey, Jordan. Is the Focusrite Octopre compatible with Pro Tools Carbon? I have a second gen Octopre and I'm looking for a new interface but can't find any info on compatibility.

    • @SomebodyPickaName
      @SomebodyPickaName Рік тому

      Yes - You'd go ADAT out of the Octopre into the ADAT in on the Carbon. Since by the time it sends out via ADAT, it's already data and so the Carbon is not converting it at that point - it's simply receiving the data from the Octopre.

  • @ryanm7777
    @ryanm7777 7 місяців тому

    Thanks great! You forgot drums what drums do you recommend? Electric or acoustic? Please some recommendations

  • @davidhayman9330
    @davidhayman9330 Рік тому

    Thanks Jordan such a helpful video, as always...generous of you

  • @kierojin
    @kierojin 2 роки тому +1

    8 gigs of RAM is the minimum, but so is a UAD Apollo? I’d prefer a better computer with a slightly less intensive interface, but then again I’m not making pro records

  • @RobRuffMusic
    @RobRuffMusic Місяць тому

    Wait... But doesn't the interface have the preamps? Why would you need more preamps? I don't get it.

    • @Streck0_909
      @Streck0_909 Місяць тому

      Official answer: To add character.
      Actual answer: To seem legit.

  • @Son_Of_Kel
    @Son_Of_Kel 2 роки тому +2

    After watching tons of CLA10 reviews including yours, I took to my trustworthy Facebook groups for advice and as someone who has never owned a pair of monitors before everyone told me not to start with the CLA10 and that they shouldn’t be used as my only option for monitoring (aside from my DT990 pros). The theory behind that advice made sense to me, and I was strongly recommended to get a pair of KALI LP8 first. Do you have an opinion on this scenario or do you believe CLA10 are hands down a must have right away?

    • @hardcoremusicstudio
      @hardcoremusicstudio  2 роки тому +6

      I’ll be very blunt since you’re asking… this is nonsense. Zoom out and realize what’s happening here: you know that many pros with decades of experience say the NS10s WORK. Yet a FB group of random people who may never have tried NS10s, and who may never have done any decent work themselves, tells you not to get the thing that real pros have advocated for decades… why would you listen to them?

    • @Son_Of_Kel
      @Son_Of_Kel 2 роки тому +1

      @@hardcoremusicstudio The specific person that gave me the most sound advice is in a pro studio and has the CLA10s, his theory is that the CLA10 are geared specifically for pointing out problems in the mix and have a very present mid focus with not much bass, and that they are very harsh which could aid in faster ear fatigue, which corroborates with other reviews and general information that I’ve found on the CLA10, and so his suggestion was that I start with something a bit more flat and “sonically pleasing” for general monitoring, and then add the CLA10 to my room when I feel it necessary to add more monitors. However my initial thought based on other reports was that I should get the CLA10 because they expose problems within the mix and of course as you said because so many pro studios use and love them there’s obviously a reason the NS/CLA10 are practically industry standard monitoring. And that if I can get my mixes to sound good in them they’ll more or less sound good through any other speaker. I appreciate you for responding as well!

    • @hardcoremusicstudio
      @hardcoremusicstudio  2 роки тому +8

      @@Son_Of_Kel exactly... that logic doesn't really make sense! It's saying, "You should get something that fools you into thinking your mix is better than it is."
      I would think the opposite way. Get speakers that will help you translate easier, and then later you can add "nicer" ones so you can make sure it sounds cool on big speakers too. But for that purpose, headphones / earpods / car test is enough for me.

    • @Son_Of_Kel
      @Son_Of_Kel 2 роки тому

      @@hardcoremusicstudio I’ll say I’ve been watching your videos and implementing your advice/ experience, and in doing so have only learned and progressed, so once again I think I’ll take your advice! Thank you again for responding and helping clear things up. I understand a lot of people who have been in the industry are under the impression that beginners have a specific series of steps to take into learning and growing towards becoming a producer, which I assume would lead that person to the conclusion that I should start at a different point as far as what monitoring gear to begin with. But I believe that as a beginner there should be no reason to start by using more “advanced” gear or methods as long as they is an obtainable opportunity to learn how to use it accurately. In this case I am fully aware and understand the concept of why CLA10s are used therefore I should be capable of learning how to use them properly.

    • @TazzSmk
      @TazzSmk 2 роки тому

      Kali Audio is a decent company, folks which left from JBL I think,
      LP-8 aren't that great, if you can stretch budget to get IN-8 well that's a completely different league as those are 3-way coaxial monitors, rivaling Genelec The Ones for the poor :)

  • @gabet3754
    @gabet3754 7 місяців тому

    How many bells do I need in my tambourine?

  • @theartofshwa
    @theartofshwa 2 роки тому

    That's so funny. I've had those exact same mics on my list (excluding the C451s) for years. One of these days I'll finally have all my stuff together. I've been looking at the Focusrite Scarlett 18i20 for a while. 8 inputs is plenty for me for necessary drums; kick, snare, four toms (on my kit), and two overheads. I've not found hat to be super necessary to spot mic, but I do like a good room mic.

  • @hardcoremusicstudio
    @hardcoremusicstudio  2 роки тому +5

    Did I miss anything essential? Comment below and go grab your FREE mixing cheatsheet here ☛ hardcoremusicstudio.com/mixcheatsheet

    • @prodjr714
      @prodjr714 Рік тому

      Hi! Love your videos! Computer-yes Mac or Windows just preference both are OS and they're both PC = Personal Computer. The minimum in RAM I'd say 16G since everything the PC uses is mostly run by the RAM and at least Quad-Core. USB port 2 it's fine why? Because you can run up to 127 USB in 1 USB.
      The DAW and interface it's the person's preference and what do they want to achieve like recording lots of ins and outs, for mixing don't need that much same as mastering.
      Plugins and outboard gear same as above.
      Controller and/or midi controllers depends.
      Studio Monitors also depends on what the person wants to achieve.
      Keep up the great job 👍

    • @russellhill1981
      @russellhill1981 Рік тому

      I’m a live sound person who wants to get into studio recording. How do you feel about using a Behringer X 32 as the main console? I ask because that’s the one I know most about

    • @steverok67
      @steverok67 Рік тому

      What about a cello ? Haha just kidding. 8 inputs would be enough for me. For non-metal, the LDCs may become more essential, or maybe not. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

  • @helmanfrow
    @helmanfrow 2 роки тому +65

    You lost me after _Mac_ and _ProTools_ but I'll pretend I didn't hear those and keep watching.

    • @Bogdan_Tolm
      @Bogdan_Tolm 2 роки тому +8

      Glenn Fricker? Is that you?

    • @michaelyolch79
      @michaelyolch79 10 місяців тому +4

      Is the Mac too stable for you? HAHA!

    • @adriancadena2887
      @adriancadena2887 8 місяців тому +2

      Wow so edgy

    • @1rcproductions
      @1rcproductions 8 місяців тому

      @@michaelyolch79 The current PC I'm using hasn't crashed since I bought it which was about three years ago. I'm just comfortable with PC's and Windows. Whatever works for you is great!

    • @userdeleted4723
      @userdeleted4723 8 місяців тому +4

      @@michaelyolch79 I'm a software engineer, if your PC is unstable that's a you problem. Build/optimize your own PC and it'll run over anything you put in front of it.

  • @MoneyRouteRay
    @MoneyRouteRay 2 роки тому +1

    I just need a home setup for recording vocals and mixing I don’t record instruments at all other then my voice

  • @brandnewyou5254
    @brandnewyou5254 3 місяці тому

    Oh yeah I track everything straight off of my modeler through my compressor into my interface

  • @diamondbayonet6710
    @diamondbayonet6710 Рік тому

    Only thing I would add is a boutique cowbell, makes or breaks a mix

    • @rjb7569
      @rjb7569 10 місяців тому

      You should use two cowbells in stereo... then triple track them while staring at the lava lamp. It's more better.

  • @publickx7611
    @publickx7611 6 місяців тому

    well done 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @Michaelvan-g3q
    @Michaelvan-g3q 5 місяців тому +1

    Get whatever stuff you want..... don't listen to anyone who tells you : "you need this..."

  • @Arrrrrrrrrrn
    @Arrrrrrrrrrn Рік тому

    I really appreciate this video. Keep up the great work. You always come across honest and genuine.I have the Neural DSP plugin Nolly and I only wanted to try it because I saw that you recommended it. It works perfectly for me. Neural DSP may have other plugins that are great but Nolly does the job for me. This video was what I had asked. This video was made for someone like me. Thanks for sharing your recommendations. I really appreciate it.
    I may still stick with my favorite DAW that never crashes but this has some great info. Thanks

  • @danymalsound
    @danymalsound 2 роки тому +1

    Only issue in this video, is that Avid discontinued the Artist Mix series a long time ago... earlier this year, if not late in '21. Cheers!

    • @hardcoremusicstudio
      @hardcoremusicstudio  2 роки тому +1

      I realized that after I made the video... whoops! Controller options are seriously lacking right now.

    • @danymalsound
      @danymalsound 2 роки тому

      @@hardcoremusicstudio agreed! I think SSL has the best bang out there with the UF8, but it's like $1200 USD, which is crazy, in my opinion

    • @legacyShredder1
      @legacyShredder1 2 роки тому

      @@danymalsound Doesn't it come with the plugin?

    • @danymalsound
      @danymalsound 2 роки тому

      @@legacyShredder1 if you mean SSL 360, then yes, but I think you get 360 with any of their plugin purchases. I'm not 100% on that. Maybe I just got a freebie and didn't realize it

    • @legacyShredder1
      @legacyShredder1 2 роки тому

      @@danymalsound I had to look it up. I was thinking about a totally different controller than what you mentioned. The one I had in mind was the SSL UC1 channel strip plugin controller. Ignore me altogether.

  • @squelch84
    @squelch84 Рік тому +2

    Albini did countless records in his house using four mics on drums. You don't need more than eight mics on drums. If you're going for a specific sound, sure, but less can be more. Spend more money on getting your room sounding good before spending money on pre-amps.

  • @M.Holland
    @M.Holland 2 роки тому

    Yeah, I’m almost there. 😍

  • @GoldenProductions2019
    @GoldenProductions2019 10 місяців тому

    You can record a drum kit with just 8 inputs it will be a little tough but you can make it happen

  • @Zardox-The-Heretic-Slayer
    @Zardox-The-Heretic-Slayer 2 роки тому +1

    the distressor is something I want but haven't been able to afford yet. I'm glad you mentioned it though, some people bitch about it (forum people who don't ever seem to record anything). I would say that a pair of Beyerdynamic DT 770 pro headphones are a must along with their openback counterparts

    • @rydog3701
      @rydog3701 2 місяці тому

      the distressor is amazing. The plugins aren't quite there, and the hardware does something magical.

    • @Zardox-The-Heretic-Slayer
      @Zardox-The-Heretic-Slayer 2 місяці тому

      @@rydog3701 aye I know what you mean, software is very good but hardware sounds more "solid" (for want of a better word) in most cases and I'm not one to get into that audiophile crap, I'd very much love software to be perfect and I think it will get there eventually

  • @PabloLaFrossia
    @PabloLaFrossia 2 роки тому

    Tamborine is a must in any professional studio :)

  • @largeuselessness
    @largeuselessness 2 роки тому +5

    ~~about DAW: do not use Adobe Audition ~~

  • @stevenneufeldmusic
    @stevenneufeldmusic 2 роки тому

    great video! damn, i am really loving these exact gear choices.. we are on the same page!

  • @davidasher22
    @davidasher22 2 роки тому +1

    Can I get a quote on all that?

  • @kyleborch
    @kyleborch 2 роки тому

    I think I need one of those HCMS hoodies!

  • @aaronsmith2611
    @aaronsmith2611 2 роки тому

    Nice list! The only thing I would add is a good pair of headphones.

  • @geoffh8077
    @geoffh8077 2 роки тому

    I really need you to get more specific with the tambourine.

  • @stratoslear
    @stratoslear 2 роки тому

    I have a pair of NS-10’s I’ve recently acquired. Curious what amp you’re running, or would recommend to power them. Thanks! Great channel.

  • @ESP77769
    @ESP77769 2 роки тому +1

    This depends on what you need the gear for. If it's just instruments you're recording, an interface is all you need. (well, DAW & computer, plug-ins, etc, also)

  • @clowncarqingdao
    @clowncarqingdao Рік тому +1

    Mac Studio - expensive and not that great. Buy a Mac mini (base model) and put in your own ram (nit that difficult but make sure you know what your are doing). Logic is the best. Its plugins can essentially do everything from mix to mastering. Also, with Logic only DL and apply AU - it doesn't need VSTs and will save you heaps of disk storage. Focusrite is a good choice, but other are great too, although focus rite give you nice freebies now as they have created a bigger collective. The rest I agree with except of course Logic has those wonderful AI drums so as a songwriter out of a band, you don't need anything but guitar and vocal mics.

  • @krustdogg131
    @krustdogg131 Рік тому

    Very well thought out gear.. you can't have to many sm57 lol

  • @TomaszKalusMusic
    @TomaszKalusMusic 11 місяців тому

    Windows + Reaper + Focusrite 2i2

  • @TommyWashow
    @TommyWashow 2 роки тому

    dead and divine antimacy? did you work on that record? they were one of the best metalcore bands ever

  • @Bluepilled-c5t
    @Bluepilled-c5t 10 місяців тому +1

    Mac because “it just works”. What year is this, 2002? PCs are flawless and cheap. Spend twice as much as you need to if you want, nice logo. And DAW reaper is $60 and awesome. I had cubase for years, cost me $1500 once, ditched it, never looked back. Save on computer and daw and spend on good gear.

  • @PrantoKoX
    @PrantoKoX 2 роки тому +3

    Mac?? Avid?? Api?? UAD??Guess we could see this coming - soooo very typically USA based & biased.
    😂🤦🏻‍♂️
    Also, any studio & DAW in the world nowadays are compatible for further work/mixing/overdubs - we have AIFF or WAV exports, stem exports, and even cross-platform compatible session files.
    Also, no cables, interconnects, stands, clamps and even more glaringly no at least minimal room acoustics treatment solutions & materials???
    Also, NS10s or CLAs for TRACKING a live band, and NO headphones for anybody, seriously??
    Ehhhhhh, at least the mic choices were pretty safe (& sound) advice. And so was the tambourine.

  • @markbond08
    @markbond08 Рік тому

    Where I would differ: get an M2 Mac mini since the apple silicon is incredibly strong. Go no less than 16gb ram. Go for Cubase over pro tools because 99.999% of people will never enter a pro studio and Cubase is way more user friendly. For the interface, if you ever plan on being in a band just buy an X32 rack. Amazing for a live rig, band practice and for recording.
    For the condensers just get a matched pair of se7s. Incredibly cheap and amazing for the price. Paying $1500 for a pair of condenser mics isn’t going to be the difference in getting you pro results. You’d be better off using that on some decent fab filter plugins or just saving it.

  • @danielortizdecaracas
    @danielortizdecaracas 9 місяців тому

    Y si no tengo esos equipos no sirve??

  • @johnwest6083
    @johnwest6083 6 місяців тому

    It's crazy to me that so many people in the music industry seem to dedicate their careers just to keep protocols alive.

  • @gigngamer
    @gigngamer Рік тому

    interface SPL MADICON + MADISON 16 INPUT etc

  • @jellybean7253
    @jellybean7253 Рік тому +2

    Just went into business with a local old friend that had a little project studio that was just limping along. I am upgrading/adding to his gear. Went with the Mac Studio, SSL, Big Six, Scarlette 4 banger. We got two SSL UF8's. I was a live sound mixer for over 50 years so I like haveing faders I can touch NOW. I went with the same tom mics, but, got a couple Neumann 184's stereo pair. Also, Neumann TLM 103, RE-20, One SM-81 for hat specifically, but, other stuff too. He already had the basic band mics and a SM-7B. I live on Waves. He likes a bunch of niche plugins, but, I have the Mercury bundle from my live days, so that worked out nice. SSL bundle and Abbey road is his. I think your thoughts are dead on. You... and we... should be able to create well into the 2030 era. Congrats on your success. May peace be with you. Oh, BTW, you cost me money. I really liked the 4050's in my live mixing for overheads and electric gtrs. Thanks for pulling out my wallet for me. Pirate!!!! I had an Avalon 737 so that's my pre of choice and always has been. Doesn't travel well, but, for studios... Yummy. And, yes! We have a bunch of keyboards and some hammond organs, a drum kit and a bunch of amps. Hope you enjoy my book. I look forward to more of your videos.

  • @Hubson55
    @Hubson55 2 роки тому +2

    Ah! So that's the real All-Pros-Secret!... Tambourine!

  • @tlepsh_band
    @tlepsh_band 4 місяці тому

    I agree with what ur saying. Except for ur suggestion of using a mac and neural dsp. Since ur using Protools, it really doesn't matter whether its a mac or PC... and the prices are massively higher.
    Also, neural dsp has shit on actual guitar gear bro. How are u not aware of that?

  • @Jayrawk
    @Jayrawk 2 роки тому +8

    I agree on everything. Except pro tools. lol

  • @billesposito2112
    @billesposito2112 2 роки тому +1

    Lol the good ole tambourin . I tell you tho I'm a vocalist/ front man and we used to do all along the watchtower the Hendrix version and I would do the tambourin part and it was magic. That's probably why they used it in the studio version. I would look forward to it. I loved the analog live set up. Good times . Great content and delivery. You're the first one to recommend adding instead of subtractive EQ. But I tried it and the best vocal sound to date. The Disstressor is my go to compressor for my vocals also. Glad I found your channel . Thanks.

  • @martinwinges9328
    @martinwinges9328 2 роки тому +11

    ~20.980 $ for the things in the list here with rough maths, likely more.
    Good luck.

    • @adamphillips6747
      @adamphillips6747 2 роки тому +2

      If you listen to what he says, it's good to start with gear you can keep and not sell and loose your ass and have to spend more to get the good stuff. My grandfather always told me to save a little longer for what you really want and don't skimp where you shouldn't. Happy recording!!!!

    • @aeonic_drums
      @aeonic_drums 2 роки тому

      @@adamphillips6747 100% on the money there! 🙌🏻

    • @DeeDammersOfficial
      @DeeDammersOfficial 2 роки тому +4

      He said LEGIT studio - not budget ;)

    • @aeonic_drums
      @aeonic_drums 2 роки тому +2

      @@DeeDammersOfficial BINGO

    • @martinwinges9328
      @martinwinges9328 2 роки тому +6

      @@adamphillips6747 it wasn't meant as criticism but just as a simple summation. Quality always over quantity. Just a hard reality check for many illusionists out there thinking they will ever have a legit setup completely.

  • @shoon1093
    @shoon1093 6 місяців тому

    I think the best thing to take away from the video is not necessarily the products; but the functions he’s describing.
    Essentially what he’s saying is you want to allow yourself to have:
    •A good computer
    •A decent quality Audio Interface with enough inputs to track drums
    •Additional equipment if you want to separate your mixes more (The preamps
    •An Outboard compressor to help with minimizing clipping for intense tracks (FX loops, vox, meaty/experimental guitars, anything giving you a headache)
    •Enough decent quality microphones to do what you need, that will also last you long enough to make your records
    Overall you want to think of the challenges you have recording, and find out what’s the bare minimum to circumvent those challenges, and finally build from there. Don’t worry if You don’t need something afterall, you can always sell it and get a little money back. Take care of all of your gear!
    Happy Shopping!

  • @michaelrendon5224
    @michaelrendon5224 2 роки тому

    Great video. I’d maybe check out the Heritage Audio Super 8 in place of the Focusrite Octopre?

  • @Nomanspie
    @Nomanspie 8 місяців тому

    16 gb minimum if you're running a load of plugins or channels.
    Forget protools. Spend the money on a solid high end pc.

  • @jonlohrenz5446
    @jonlohrenz5446 2 роки тому

    Midi keyboard?