I was near the barricade on the right. dmitri took a parasol from someone in the crowd near the beginning of this and was singing while holding it and stomping around. video does no justice. it was fun as hell. and he was intense af throughout the whole performance.
Dimitri not doing vocals on stage is CRAZY. When he came out to do Under The Running board with the band during one of their “final” shows in 2017 he sounded great
Right?! When Justin Pearson goes onstage at nearly fifty and tears shit up like he's still in his late teens, there is no excuse for any singer to be unprepared.
Dmitri was in the crowd during parts of this song starting at the beginning lol. also I think he sounds good here, ofc he can't reach the same painful intensity as his youth, but the energy and intent is there, and you can tell by his mannerisms in these recordings that he's feeling this stuff fr
@@eliptikstudios8996 Yea but why didn't he just jump right back up? there were stacks near the stage you can see in other videos from the set where you could jump back up cause Mike Muir who is in his 60's did the same thing during dillinger's set. Dimitri who is pretty tall from what fans say just lazily walked back around the entire stage which kind of made the band look awkward lol I just don't get why he didn't just jump back up the stage.
They just butted heads alot over the years. It stinks tho because if they didn’t get Greg they probably wouldn’t have done as much as they did in their careers with dimitri on vocals
Well as far as I know they have no beef. And Greg has always said it. there is a recent interview where he addresses this, and he sees this reunion as the "much needed" reunion between Ben and Dimitri. Greg also has a billion things going both in his life and music and in that same interview I just mentioned he announced a bunch of new material. ua-cam.com/video/mO2_Ox3g4hA/v-deo.html
@mariobertrand6305 there's definitely beef. They are just smart enough to not let it spill out publically. The whole last record is about their relationship.
People seem to forget that Calculating Infinity and Under the Running Board are what made this band legendary. Even without their other records, which some are arguably better, they’d have legendary status in hardcore
@@sacredxgeometry this may be true, but allow me to explain: I don't mean this in a bad way, just that when this album was written DEP were very much still an underground band. This is a visceral, and personal work of art, not at all akin to stadium or festival rock. This was true punk rock, not meant for the masses and the club shows they did in support reflected the energy and intensity of the record. Personal, visceral live shows with no regard for the mainstream. DEP grew and evolved over the years and towards the end of their career, they most certainly leaned into a bigger, arena-like sound and it made their appearances at big festivals feel much more natural and understandable. Now granted, it is unfair to judge based on a poor phone video, and of course this is just speculation, but I think one of the reasons this video is so divisive among fans, is because these songs just don't translate well to a festival/stadium sound. I think the smaller shows will be received more favorably.
@@sacredxgeometry He is right. This music is too chaotic and and all over the place to be put on a bigger stage. This kind of stuff needs intimate feeling and chaos of it.
I do agree. However seeing dillinger at arctangent 2015, which is a similar size stage to this and TDEP were headlining.... that show made me a lifelong fan! Greg was on form and the crowd was electric @northtimo666
The band is done, though. They closed that chapter with Greg. This string of shows is, like Ben said, a celebration, and doing shows with his friend Dmitri at a level he never got to experience with them.
@@shaunmasonmusic Yes, totally. But weird to not do this CASH GRAB without the more popular vocalist that all the real ones are demanding, ey. They went with the big bad original vocalist instead so pay is less! But yes, cash grab. Go spread it to all those whining about Greg not being a part of this hahaha
Seen them once with Dimitri in 1999 and they were amazing also saw Greg with them multiple times over the years and they were amazing. Never a bad show the always brought it. Only a couple bands that opened for them back in the day that were able to keep up with them Mastadon and Darkest Hour to me were the only bands that didn’t get stomped by DEP live…
Dimitri what is going on with your vocals man? Hopefully this was just a once-off blunder. I know he is a million times better than this. Hes the king of the banshee scream
I'm a huge fan of these guys, and I'm going to see them on the 23rd, because it'll be an honor to get to see them with their OG vocalist doing the Calculating stuff, BUT... ...this performance feels rough at best. Dimitri's vocals feel really flat and unenergetic, and it seems like he's just shouting more than he's actually screaming. Which is weird to me, because he sounded WAY better just doing those couple of songs at the farewell show in 2017, and I imagine he didn't practice nearly as much for that short set compared to what I imagine he's had to do to prepare for this mini tour. I know it's been years since then already, but he went a lot longer between leaving Dillinger and the farewell shows than those shows to now. I'm hoping this show was just him shaking the rust off, and I'm excited to see something close to the band's OG form no matter what (and tbh, a Dillinger show at all...after 7 years since the Terminal show I went to, it's a blessing to have one more chance to see them).
And Greg stans demanding Greg back refuse to understand that Ben wanted to celebrate 25 years of their groundbreaking album with the original vocalist. The audacity! No? Well stage shows aside, Greg stans certainly refuse to understand that despite all the stuff they made with Greg, Calculating Infinity still clears everything they made with Greg. No? Its legacy>
Yea cause god forbid we have a negative opinion in today's society. Everything needs to be positive. No negative thoughts cause somebody's feelings might get hurt. Dimitri's performance was boring and he just looked like he had no energy. Hopefully he can do better in the future. Watching his performance in 2017 he was solid but this is not.
Omfg. I have tickets to see them on June 23 in Brooklyn. Ngl this video is a blackpill. I hope they were just phoning it in for this show because it was a massive payday, and they'll actually go all out for their home crowd back on the East Coast.
@@DuffyLONER64 I know all the guys are older, so they can't literally turn back the clock. That's not what I expected. I got into Dillinger six weeks after their break-up when I was pretty much a baby. This album blew my fucking mind the first time I heard it. When Dimitri gets up there and screams like he's waiting for a phone call, and Ben awkwardly takes away his torch to set his own guitar on fire and smash it like he's Pete Townsend in 1965, it's not cathartic. I feel a little embarrassed for my boys when I see that. This is a lot of negativity right off the bat and hopefully they knock my socks off, but I have to be honest; this live video doesn't portray the whole reunion in the best light.
I lost my job and had to sell my tickets for that same show because I couldn’t afford the trip from Portland after that, and seeing this video makes me feel a whole lot better about having to do that. Especially compared to the Botch reunion shows, where they sounded better and tighter than they ever had, this is pretty rough. I’m glad I was lucky enough to see them in their prime with both Dimitri and Greg.
That’s nice but the reality is Dimitri himself chose to leave the band. That wasn’t Ben’s decision. They still wouldn’t have gotten where they did with Dimitri? Sure that’s also nice but barring the fact it was Dimitri’s decision to leave, so it took him 20+ years and no touring to not sound like he did in 2017 and other times he did guest spots with TDEP (he sounded great). But hey…
@@james_the_animator Yes Mike Patton one of the most prolific musicians of all time who’s regarded as one of the most talented vocalists overall and, aside from the time he took a break due to personal reasons, constantly tours. How dare Dimitri be lacking by comparison and also apparently Ben himself who is STILL jumping and moving around overall despite all the injuries he’s suffered
@@mikeymoose7253 Yes and they’ve never broken as many bones as Ben has (Ben’s still jumping around in this mId performance), didn’t leave music altogether like Dimitri, and also weren’t absolute maniacs on stage like Ben was known to be for two decades. But yeah, no excuse!
Since the announcement, that Dimitri is performing, 99% of the fanbase were bashing Greg. Saying how much he sux and how much better Dimitri is. Now it's the complete opposite 🤣 DEP fans r just pathetic
Eh it seemed like it was mostly the old heads saying that. Every time someone brought up Dimitri bringing the real intensity it felt like an "okay boomer" moment to me. I think Ben really set Dimitri up for failure with the hired gun interview. Dimitri could sound amazing and this would still be getting criticized because they're two different front men stage presence wise. Still going to support the boys, but I'm expecting nothing to top the adrenaline rush I got at the couple of nights I was at Terminal 5.....and that's okay.
Wow 😂 For a band I have loved and seen multiple times throughout the years, who I also rated as one of the best live bands I’ve seen, this is just really sad and kinda lame 🤷♂️
Sorry but this is an absolute abortion. I would want a refund seeing this and sadly dillinger is one of my favorite bands. Greg's live performances are what made this band what they were. This is just people playing TDEP covers if you ask me. How very unfortunate this is the current state of this band and Ben and Greg can't work out their differences.
@zachmillerdrums I know who Dimitri is... my comment about cover bands was about the quality sounding more like a cover band instead of being the original band who wrote the album. This sounds absolutely horrible.
@@zachmillerdrumsyou took the words out of my mouth. Yeah it's not a normal dillinger show it's a festival but this was still beautiful and we got Dimitri and Ben. Cover band? Right.
@@Sevensentai6918Hahaha no, and u know it. Any song in Option Paralysis outclass those that you're talking about, although I like first works, it's a fact that after Miss Machine things were way better.
I really liked this band a lot back then … but it's 2024 and you still break your guitars and shit … it not even looks rock 'n roll more like: I'm so used to break so f*** it … pretty sad performance though …
I was near the barricade on the right. dmitri took a parasol from someone in the crowd near the beginning of this and was singing while holding it and stomping around. video does no justice. it was fun as hell. and he was intense af throughout the whole performance.
It’s odd because Dimitri sounded great when he did under thee running board at the final shows in 2017
Dimitri not doing vocals on stage is CRAZY. When he came out to do Under The Running board with the band during one of their “final” shows in 2017 he sounded great
Right?! When Justin Pearson goes onstage at nearly fifty and tears shit up like he's still in his late teens, there is no excuse for any singer to be unprepared.
In one of the videos on the compound it shows him near the barricade with the crowd. He might of had to go around to get back on stage.
@@james_the_animator no way that dude is 48!
Dmitri was in the crowd during parts of this song starting at the beginning lol. also I think he sounds good here, ofc he can't reach the same painful intensity as his youth, but the energy and intent is there, and you can tell by his mannerisms in these recordings that he's feeling this stuff fr
@@eliptikstudios8996 Yea but why didn't he just jump right back up? there were stacks near the stage you can see in other videos from the set where you could jump back up cause Mike Muir who is in his 60's did the same thing during dillinger's set. Dimitri who is pretty tall from what fans say just lazily walked back around the entire stage which kind of made the band look awkward lol I just don't get why he didn't just jump back up the stage.
Ben's dedication to not letting Greg have the last word is so impressive
Can someone explain the beef? There's never anything concrete about their relationship without people being vague about it. I miss Greg.
They just butted heads alot over the years. It stinks tho because if they didn’t get Greg they probably wouldn’t have done as much as they did in their careers with dimitri on vocals
Well as far as I know they have no beef. And Greg has always said it. there is a recent interview where he addresses this, and he sees this reunion as the "much needed" reunion between Ben and Dimitri. Greg also has a billion things going both in his life and music and in that same interview I just mentioned he announced a bunch of new material. ua-cam.com/video/mO2_Ox3g4hA/v-deo.html
@mariobertrand6305 there's definitely beef. They are just smart enough to not let it spill out publically. The whole last record is about their relationship.
Greg is to frontmen what Mike Tyson was to boxers and the same thing happened.
43% energy in that vocal performance. Oof.
Man the vocals kind of suck. Like they aren’t bad but they don’t match the intensity of the music and it takes away from the overall intensity.
Where’s the Dimitri?
People seem to forget that Calculating Infinity and Under the Running Board are what made this band legendary. Even without their other records, which some are arguably better, they’d have legendary status in hardcore
Option Paralysis is actually the first album I think of whenever it comes to Dillinger.
The drumset was unharmed!
This music wasn't meant for a big stage
You are out of your fucking mind with this comment
@@sacredxgeometry this may be true, but allow me to explain: I don't mean this in a bad way, just that when this album was written DEP were very much still an underground band. This is a visceral, and personal work of art, not at all akin to stadium or festival rock. This was true punk rock, not meant for the masses and the club shows they did in support reflected the energy and intensity of the record. Personal, visceral live shows with no regard for the mainstream.
DEP grew and evolved over the years and towards the end of their career, they most certainly leaned into a bigger, arena-like sound and it made their appearances at big festivals feel much more natural and understandable.
Now granted, it is unfair to judge based on a poor phone video, and of course this is just speculation, but I think one of the reasons this video is so divisive among fans, is because these songs just don't translate well to a festival/stadium sound. I think the smaller shows will be received more favorably.
@@sacredxgeometry He is right. This music is too chaotic and and all over the place to be put on a bigger stage. This kind of stuff needs intimate feeling and chaos of it.
I do agree. However seeing dillinger at arctangent 2015, which is a similar size stage to this and TDEP were headlining.... that show made me a lifelong fan! Greg was on form and the crowd was electric @northtimo666
@@bottlemanic i saw em on a big stage and a small as well. Small was the best way to experience the chaos.
missing Greg....
Impossible not to miss Greg
Dimitri was a bit underwhelming but this was fucking beautiful.
underwhelming is a nice way to describe it yes
Greg, Chris, and Brian made this band special. There's no soul anymore.
Not a reunion without Chris if we’re being honest
Nah Billy is cooler
@@cc3230 said no one ever
Ben hates his guts tho
I love Chris, but I don't miss him while having Billy on drums, that's the truth.
This band needs Greg lmao
Facts
The band is done, though. They closed that chapter with Greg. This string of shows is, like Ben said, a celebration, and doing shows with his friend Dmitri at a level he never got to experience with them.
@@DuffyLONER64 So it’s a cash grab haha
@@shaunmasonmusic Yes, totally. But weird to not do this CASH GRAB without the more popular vocalist that all the real ones are demanding, ey. They went with the big bad original vocalist instead so pay is less! But yes, cash grab. Go spread it to all those whining about Greg not being a part of this hahaha
and chris p
Can’t wait I saw there last 2 shows in NYC before they retired. I got tickets to 2 outta the 3 upcoming shows in Ny. I’m fucking pumped 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
I'll be at the one on the 21st in brooklyn w carbomb. Fuck yes
Flying in for the 23rd lmao
Flying in for the 22nd!
Seen them once with Dimitri in 1999 and they were amazing also saw Greg with them multiple times over the years and they were amazing. Never a bad show the always brought it. Only a couple bands that opened for them back in the day that were able to keep up with them Mastadon and Darkest Hour to me were the only bands that didn’t get stomped by DEP live…
I expect this performance from a no-name local band on a Tuesday night...
no bro ben climbed on a speaker they’re crazy contractors
I would love to see where local no name bands where you live because they aren't even close to this quality in Chicago.
Uhhhh... where is Dimitri?
Yea after this, I think they should go back to their side projects or bring Greg back more sooner than not
Thank god Billy has Thoughtcrimes.
I’d rather see Greg do dillinger with Chris pennie than this tbh.
@@theshipoffoolsTHIS!!!
Or they might not, so you can feel free to ignore them and just stick with almighty Greg’s stuff. Nah? Ight
@ph-fi7qo wait, huh??!!!!
It's kinda cool they're doing this, but Dimitri simply is not on the same level as Greg as a vocalist or performer.
we dont need them, we need Mike Patton
Sorry but I don't need Mike if I have Greg, that's the truth@@alexandrebyte
This is a reunion with Dimitri for the first album. That's all. We know how good Greg is.
Pretty bad decision playing the first reunion show at a festival. This turned out not good.
Dimitri what is going on with your vocals man? Hopefully this was just a once-off blunder. I know he is a million times better than this. Hes the king of the banshee scream
Zero energy here. Glad I'm not going now. Anyone want to buy two tickets for NY Friday? 😂
F*cking knew that coffee shop would get boring and the band would get back together. New album soon, please.
Ben and Dimitri have been working on new music, but it won't be necessarily under TDEP banner.
LOL
@@northtimo666 Interesting. Source?
@@kuakilyissombroguwi There was a pretty recent podcast/interview they did. I think it is on youtube.
They played a great set, hope they do more of these
I'm a huge fan of these guys, and I'm going to see them on the 23rd, because it'll be an honor to get to see them with their OG vocalist doing the Calculating stuff, BUT...
...this performance feels rough at best. Dimitri's vocals feel really flat and unenergetic, and it seems like he's just shouting more than he's actually screaming. Which is weird to me, because he sounded WAY better just doing those couple of songs at the farewell show in 2017, and I imagine he didn't practice nearly as much for that short set compared to what I imagine he's had to do to prepare for this mini tour. I know it's been years since then already, but he went a lot longer between leaving Dillinger and the farewell shows than those shows to now. I'm hoping this show was just him shaking the rust off, and I'm excited to see something close to the band's OG form no matter what (and tbh, a Dillinger show at all...after 7 years since the Terminal show I went to, it's a blessing to have one more chance to see them).
🤐
ben spin kicking, liam stomping, fire spittin? so stoked for this tour
Oof
What happen with Greg Puciato?? 🤨🤔
google it
The great band ever, Under..., Calculating, Miss..., iconic records... Respect, hails from Ecuador south!! -Mark
Beautiful chaos
Ben just refuses to understand that Greg is what truly made this band
And Greg stans demanding Greg back refuse to understand that Ben wanted to celebrate 25 years of their groundbreaking album with the original vocalist. The audacity!
No? Well stage shows aside, Greg stans certainly refuse to understand that despite all the stuff they made with Greg, Calculating Infinity still clears everything they made with Greg. No? Its legacy>
Lol definitely not, Ben's what made the band, Greg wasnt even there for Calculating Infinity
Lol, no. Just no. I like greg. But this is Ben and Liam's band.
L take
Greg has 1,000% better stage presence & vocals
Good for you 😴
Let’s all judge a guy’s first performance in 8 years from a one-off which itself happened 16 years after this album came out
Yea cause god forbid we have a negative opinion in today's society. Everything needs to be positive. No negative thoughts cause somebody's feelings might get hurt. Dimitri's performance was boring and he just looked like he had no energy. Hopefully he can do better in the future. Watching his performance in 2017 he was solid but this is not.
Not really digging the vocals at all. And I'm a big DEP fan.
i regret paying money to see them in chicago now, this is just sad.
3:06 Best drop ever in E standard
Greg puciato performance was so alive not this quirky as hell
Love it but the singer sounded lazy compared to Greg
Dimitri did NOT seem to be that in to it.
No one can match Greg's intensity.
My thoughts exactly,
💯
Omfg. I have tickets to see them on June 23 in Brooklyn. Ngl this video is a blackpill. I hope they were just phoning it in for this show because it was a massive payday, and they'll actually go all out for their home crowd back on the East Coast.
@@DISTURBEDALLDAYLONG Eh, to be fair, it's more of the debut celebration to do shows at this level with Dmitri.
@@DuffyLONER64 I know all the guys are older, so they can't literally turn back the clock. That's not what I expected. I got into Dillinger six weeks after their break-up when I was pretty much a baby. This album blew my fucking mind the first time I heard it. When Dimitri gets up there and screams like he's waiting for a phone call, and Ben awkwardly takes away his torch to set his own guitar on fire and smash it like he's Pete Townsend in 1965, it's not cathartic. I feel a little embarrassed for my boys when I see that.
This is a lot of negativity right off the bat and hopefully they knock my socks off, but I have to be honest; this live video doesn't portray the whole reunion in the best light.
I was at this show, and it kicked ass. By far the best performance of the day. The videos do no justice. See you in Brooklyn!
@@CEOMisterJohnSaxonit’s so hard to judge live performances off of videos. Edit: see yall in Brooklyn and Chicago
I lost my job and had to sell my tickets for that same show because I couldn’t afford the trip from Portland after that, and seeing this video makes me feel a whole lot better about having to do that. Especially compared to the Botch reunion shows, where they sounded better and tighter than they ever had, this is pretty rough. I’m glad I was lucky enough to see them in their prime with both Dimitri and Greg.
Yup…Greg is a zillion times better than dimitri
🤓🤓
Mike Patton is a zillion times better than Greg
Greg live is so more or less
The band is obviously great but this shows why they went on to change the vocalist early in their career.
That’s nice but the reality is Dimitri himself chose to leave the band. That wasn’t Ben’s decision. They still wouldn’t have gotten where they did with Dimitri? Sure that’s also nice but barring the fact it was Dimitri’s decision to leave, so it took him 20+ years and no touring to not sound like he did in 2017 and other times he did guest spots with TDEP (he sounded great). But hey…
@@Sevensentai6918 Yeah, but Ben himself has said on multiple occassions that Greg has made his music better. So the change would come sooner or later.
I saw Greg on his solo tour and he killed it. This doesnt even come close.
Good for you 😴
Right
Dimitri Minakakis was leading the show. I still would have to have been there.
for this to be the perfect band, we just have to add Mike Patton
Wow, so disappointing!
Is Ben there? Billy?
Performance is the definition of mid
They're old now, man. I'm surprised they didn't play sitting down.
@@kuakilyissombroguwi That's no excuse. Look at Mike Patton, for God's sake!
@@james_the_animatoreven iron maiden are still running around and they’re 20 years older. They are barely old.
@@james_the_animator Yes Mike Patton one of the most prolific musicians of all time who’s regarded as one of the most talented vocalists overall and, aside from the time he took a break due to personal reasons, constantly tours. How dare Dimitri be lacking by comparison and also apparently Ben himself who is STILL jumping and moving around overall despite all the injuries he’s suffered
@@mikeymoose7253 Yes and they’ve never broken as many bones as Ben has (Ben’s still jumping around in this mId performance), didn’t leave music altogether like Dimitri, and also weren’t absolute maniacs on stage like Ben was known to be for two decades. But yeah, no excuse!
Why so slow?
W... wow... That was incredibly bad
Ben is such a poser
Why tho
Since the announcement, that Dimitri is performing, 99% of the fanbase were bashing Greg. Saying how much he sux and how much better Dimitri is. Now it's the complete opposite 🤣 DEP fans r just pathetic
Eh it seemed like it was mostly the old heads saying that. Every time someone brought up Dimitri bringing the real intensity it felt like an "okay boomer" moment to me. I think Ben really set Dimitri up for failure with the hired gun interview. Dimitri could sound amazing and this would still be getting criticized because they're two different front men stage presence wise.
Still going to support the boys, but I'm expecting nothing to top the adrenaline rush I got at the couple of nights I was at Terminal 5.....and that's okay.
@ph-fi7qo Yeah that's right
Wow 😂 For a band I have loved and seen multiple times throughout the years, who I also rated as one of the best live bands I’ve seen, this is just really sad and kinda lame 🤷♂️
Sorry but this is an absolute abortion. I would want a refund seeing this and sadly dillinger is one of my favorite bands. Greg's live performances are what made this band what they were. This is just people playing TDEP covers if you ask me. How very unfortunate this is the current state of this band and Ben and Greg can't work out their differences.
they’re doing calculating infinity reunion shows with the vocalist from calculating infinity but this is a cover band.
@zachmillerdrums I know who Dimitri is... my comment about cover bands was about the quality sounding more like a cover band instead of being the original band who wrote the album. This sounds absolutely horrible.
@zachmillerdrums and I can almost guarantee you the only reason this "reunion" is even happening is it's a fucking money grab!
@@zachmillerdrumsyou took the words out of my mouth. Yeah it's not a normal dillinger show it's a festival but this was still beautiful and we got Dimitri and Ben. Cover band? Right.
@@scottlauren3145 “hey i love this band who intentionally set out to make the most unlistenable music possible, but they sound really bad here”
find another vocalist please dimitri stage performance sucks, his singing also
They should get that guy from Better Lovers
@@ObeseChess He has promise and could to justice to Greg era songs for sure.
how many dep fans that actually arent even close to consideration of a dep fan is wild
Dmitri songs were always far superior to Greg songs.
Hahahha, no.
@@northtimo666
Hahaha, yes
@@Sevensentai6918Hahaha no, and u know it. Any song in Option Paralysis outclass those that you're talking about, although I like first works, it's a fact that after Miss Machine things were way better.
I really liked this band a lot back then … but it's 2024 and you still break your guitars and shit … it not even looks rock 'n roll more like: I'm so used to break so f*** it … pretty sad performance though …
Oof