@@mrtonytj5000 On a big bike like this, you would be surprised how well lead acid will work for a quarter of the cost. He's using 100ah batteries tell me where you can get 100ah 48v lithium-ion battery cheap enough for a DIY sportbike like this? SLA's still have their place in EV cant write them off just yet. 100ah lithium-Ion that would cost about 3k not worth it for a DIY like this. Dealers like Zero bikes get quantity discounts us DIY'ers don't have that option. Your logic is flawed.
Why do people keep asking that question?! Of course you need a motorcycle licence to ride it, it's still a motorcycle and it's still being used on public roads. It's not a toy. It's big and heavy and probably very powerful.
TheKnightsShield some people suffer from fucktard syndrome. It's like... Ok it did have a gas motor and now it's electric powerd... Is it road legal??? Lmao 🤣! Duh! Nope it's not anymore. Of course it's road legal still. Freakin stupid people. LoL 😂!
You can say many things without uttering a single word. Purrfect video. No blah blahs I'll do my electric bike soon or latter.. That was the kick that I needed Thanx
The point, my friend, is to show that it can be done! There are several nay sayers out there who just look at what things should be rather than looking at all the steps in between. As an engineer myself I admire the work this person put into the project to prove a point. True, it may not be the most bang for the buck but that is why it is called a hobby. Didn't mean to go on the offensive but it bugs me when people don't understand the full process of designing and engineering.
Thats really neat. It not that fact that it can't got 180mph it's the fact that its all electric now. I'm sure he was just thinking outside the box and he nailed it.
I have a few tips: Don't waste a perfectly working bike like your 250r but do as he did, take an old one and work on it. Also, take your time and learn to ride your actual bike first before doing this kind of work. It's always good to get some years of riding experience before starting to modify bikes ;) Nice to see some young people interested in these conversions as this is the future!! :)
good for you djcvids. you like many others are pioneers to the free energy revolution that most people dont realize you are playing a great part in one day. cudos
First off: Very cool job on the conversion! And: I owned a 1985 Ninja 600R back in the day, and still think that era had some great styling. Kawasaki said they won't make motorcycles powered only by internal combustion engines starting in 2035. So Kawasakis will all be hybrids, or fully EV starting in 2035.
I perfure electric over gas. I think its great because it's so quite, you can ride around with out disturbing the peace. There you are, speeding by, hardly making a sound, it's like magic.
...and people say electrics are dangerous because they don't make noise? Silly...it's all about what you're used to hearing on a daily basis. When more vehicles like this are running about, we'll all hear them!
Awesome! What a nice job you've done! The engine sound is off course something to get used to, totally different from a conventional engine...Now it's time for manufacturers to produce high capacity batteries to enlarge the range and speed. This is the beguining of a new age.
3. And of course he wouldn't get the same power out of it... He's looking to spend a couple thousand dollars for a hobby, not build his own line of electric supersports in the $30k range. That's not a reason for him to just NOT try it at all. The whole attitude of "go big or go home" in the motorcycle culture is what gets inexperienced squids killed. He's a kid who's eager and willing to get into technology that'll change our world. There's no need to shoot him down for starting small.
This is a cool experiment, I won't belittle you with what I would do. I often think about this and I am glad that you made one. I imagine that you have everyone under the sun trying to explain the problems. That is easy to do when you won't spend the money yourself (themselves).
That's awesome for 09 I'd love to see a company produce an actual conversion kit, or like Mission R to partner with someone and create something affordable.
I love crazy builds as much as the next guy, but turning a 106 horsepower, 478 pound, 150mph work of mechanical art into a 565 pound two wheel golf kart seems quite counter productive would you say? It's an awesome build and I'm really happy that you got it to working but that 42 mph top speed hurts my soul
Hey, don't get me wrong. I truly admire the design (assuming it his own) and the fact that the bike runs. I'm an engineer too, btw. I just rather try coming up with new things that actually improve on an original design if I'm gonna spend so much effort and time on something. Cheers!
1. The Mission-R has been around for two years. And by 'around', I mean it's been fully functional and available for test rides and reviews, and has even been on a race track with other bikes - and won first place. 2. Yeah, the Mission-R is ridiculously expensive... because it's just about the best electric sport bike on the market, which is why I chose it as a perfect example. There are much cheaper bikes out there, just as there were a year ago when you posted the comment.
I had one of these GPX750Rs for 6 1/2 years. I sold it ;-( then saw it for sale and bought it back ;-) for another 3 1/2 years. Great bike. I used to ride hard with guys on R1s etc and keep up (possibly something to do with the rider though!).
the wide frame of this bike seems to make it a rather good choice for an EV conversion.. gives you a lot of space to pack batteries into while still being able to fit the fairings over it... i wonder if he did what a lot of people did and cut the fuel tank in half.. put some hinges and a latch on and use it as a storage compartment
I was inspired ! I just snagged a little block with flexible wands with alligator clips on them to help with my harness. it's called the SolderBuddy Moto. Go Fast! ;)
@assassinsGprods, in Britain you have to put it through an MSVP test which costs roughly £80 for a motorbike and make sure it matches the criteria and if its successful they'll register it, get an MOT done and it's good to go.
@karabesklow ... return the enegery by making electrical machine work as generator on breaking that will increase the distance you travel in traffic conditions. Try to reduce weight by doing all you can. ( best is to turn many metalic componenets to carbonfiber parts but it costs alot ) . Keep up the good work !
actually he could double the range and make it significantly lighter by simply using NiMh batteries instead. and if he used LifePO4 batteries he could get an additional 40% range ontop of that. If he wanted even more range still he could switch to a hub motor and use the space for the motor and drive train for extra battery space (at the sacrifice of torque efficiency) and if he wanted more power he could use a 72V motor which could all be retrofitted quite easily now
@Starman6915 Think of it in physics terms: if you want to use a dynamo to charge the battery at say 500w, then an extra 500w load is put on the motor, which then means an extra 500w load is drawn from the battery. Therefore, at best you will only gain what you've already lost.
@UH60crewman Electric motors have been around and been developed for longer than internal combustion engines. Nicola Tesla built the first brushless motors. All AC-direct motors are always brushless. The latest innovation has been in electronic motor controllers, which use DC input and control the 3-line AC output to optimize the efficiency of the motor at various RPMs and torque outputs. There isn't that much further that you can go with electric motors any more.
This is a whole lot better job than what I'm planning. I'm affectionately titling it my electric rat bike project. A first attempt with used parts to commute 14 miles to work at under 45 mph, charge at work and return home. Gonna be ugly so I'll put some fun rat effects to make it worse
@999firemonkie EV motors behave very differently and consequently, a unique type of transmission that can handle their torque without wasting as much energy has been developed for the new line of Brammo motorcycles. They actually give you slightly reduced range as it's one more power conversion step and that means necessary losses, but it does increase the top speed considerably.
Actually, the batteries are only 43.5 lbs each, the motor is less then 50 lbs, so total power-train is less then 250 lbs. The gas tank on a Ninja 750 holds around 5 gallons of gas, that is 30 lbs by itself, remove the weight of the original battery, the engine and its related controls and you will drop almost 130 lbs, leaving a net increase of only around 80 - 90 lbs overall. By using actual EV batteries, the weight will be even less though the price gets much higher.
This build was WAY ahead of its time lol, seriously slap some good lithium batteries on and it would spike your range, top speed and performance would be really cool to see
Мой совет это наверно совет "диванного" эксперта, но почему не использовали мотор-колесо ? Так былобы место под еще один аккумулятор. И собственно вопрос по сущетсву, какая емкость аккумуляторов и напряжение питания в том что сделали и какой запас хода вышел в итоге ? П.С. Еще один совет, мне это приходило в голову очень давно уже но до сих пор нет возвожмстей ваабще чтото делать не мешая никому рядом жить, :) это жлектромагнитные амортизаторы-генераторы, даст почтоянную подитку заряда на аккумуляторы не нагружая никак двигатель. Правда есть такие заводские или нет незнаю но если есть мастерская то можно и самому чтото такое сделать.
This was a great bit of engineering works and the video was great Well Done!. What will be your next project, I really think you can make this inot a great business. Good Luck for the future and dont get put of by some of the negative remarks. Once again Brilliant from the UK
Do your research. There are plenty of electric bikes out there that are fast, travel long distances, and charge quickly. The Mission-R is 160hp, 0-60 in 3 seconds. Gets up to 150 miles per charge. Charges fully in about 2 hours. The ONLY con against electric motorcycles is their relatively high prices... But they're virtually zero maintenance, and don't need gas. You save a ton of money in the long run.
since im guessing this would be most useful in urban areas, have you looked into regenerative braking? it might not be particularly difficult to implement a basic system, and it could drastically improve range.
Only twenty miles of range, eh. Lithium ion technology might allow you to increase that range and drop some weight, if it's not prohibitively expensive. Nice job on the build. Good job on fitting everything inside the stock fairings. Looks clean.
also. what's the HONEST miles per charge specs when you are easy on the throttle and brakes? 0 to 50 mph on full throttle on as flat and smooth road as possible? If your bike is even HALF the specs of the Brammo Empulse 8.0 you're doing GREAT either way man..DONT GIVE UP! KEEP striving for the top!
@13brotary depending on where you live, it might be a combination of oil and coal. But it doesn't have to be. he could have a solar panel on his roof. There could be a wind turbine down the road. Perhaps the city draws some of it's power from the river. It is only necessary that he use gasoline if it has a gasoline engine. This is one step. All journeys begin with one step.
See now that's impressive! Replace the batteries with lithium ion (uncase them from used laptop batteries), use super capacitors (pc motherboards) and build the fastest electric bike eva!
First wow man well done You built what people dream about ! Second how do you get the electric motor to have no restrictions on limited speed what do you change? And what is the amp and Voltage going to the motor directly?
Good job, 2009 you were definitely ahead of the curve with DIY! :-)
Juc Lee 2009 was the time people made good projects, now people just make crappy mods to vehicles instead of doing some maaaaaddd conversions.
+Juc Lee I was watching and getting mad at the SLA's! Then realised it was 2009.. lol
@@mrtonytj5000 On a big bike like this, you would be surprised how well lead acid will work for a quarter of the cost. He's using 100ah batteries tell me where you can get 100ah 48v lithium-ion battery cheap enough for a DIY sportbike like this? SLA's still have their place in EV cant write them off just yet. 100ah lithium-Ion that would cost about 3k not worth it for a DIY like this. Dealers like Zero bikes get quantity discounts us DIY'ers don't have that option. Your logic is flawed.
Now you should rebuild and use modern lipo batteries and really boost the performance
Great job coming from almost a decade ago...he must riding on UFO technology by now..
VERY slick conversion! Love how the mechanicals peek through the fairing.
Why do people keep asking that question?! Of course you need a motorcycle licence to ride it, it's still a motorcycle and it's still being used on public roads. It's not a toy. It's big and heavy and probably very powerful.
TheKnightsShield some people suffer from fucktard syndrome. It's like... Ok it did have a gas motor and now it's electric powerd... Is it road legal??? Lmao 🤣! Duh! Nope it's not anymore. Of course it's road legal still. Freakin stupid people. LoL 😂!
Now still watching in 2019
You can say many things without uttering a single word.
Purrfect video. No blah blahs
I'll do my electric bike soon or latter..
That was the kick that I needed
Thanx
Impressively good looking with the fairings re-installed. Some expert striping and bang.
The point, my friend, is to show that it can be done! There are several nay sayers out there who just look at what things should be rather than looking at all the steps in between. As an engineer myself I admire the work this person put into the project to prove a point. True, it may not be the most bang for the buck but that is why it is called a hobby. Didn't mean to go on the offensive but it bugs me when people don't understand the full process of designing and engineering.
This is the best and neat conversion as of my knowledge
If you having this bike please make an another video
Thats really neat. It not that fact that it can't got 180mph it's the fact that its all electric now. I'm sure he was just thinking outside the box and he nailed it.
Can't get over how quiet this sounds. Great job.
Best conversion I've seen
This is the best conversion I've seen yet. Great job! I would like to know where to get the motor and electronics for this kind of project.
I have a few tips:
Don't waste a perfectly working bike like your 250r but do as he did, take an old one and work on it.
Also, take your time and learn to ride your actual bike first before doing this kind of work.
It's always good to get some years of riding experience before starting to modify bikes ;)
Nice to see some young people interested in these conversions as this is the future!! :)
good for you djcvids. you like many others are pioneers to the free energy revolution that most people dont realize you are playing a great part in one day. cudos
This is the best quick conversion vid on youtube! fantastic work.
First off: Very cool job on the conversion! And: I owned a 1985 Ninja 600R back in the day, and still think that era had some great styling.
Kawasaki said they won't make motorcycles powered only by internal combustion engines starting in 2035. So Kawasakis will all be hybrids, or fully EV starting in 2035.
that's so cool- you really got you're stuff together and you obviously know what you're doing!!
I perfure electric over gas. I think its great because it's so quite, you can ride around with out disturbing the peace. There you are, speeding by, hardly making a sound, it's like magic.
This is a really beautiful example of DIY engineering. Great job!
You did a great job on the bike. It looks fantastic.
Gratulálok! Ilyen egy jó videó a végén a Specifikációkkal! Csak a Magyar nem képes ilyesmire. Örültem a videódnak! THX!
Wow, 2009 electric motorbikes weren’t even close to mainstream. Great job, hope it’s still saving you petrol!
...and people say electrics are dangerous because they don't make noise? Silly...it's all about what you're used to hearing on a daily basis. When more vehicles like this are running about, we'll all hear them!
Awesome! What a nice job you've done! The engine sound is off course something to get used to, totally different from a conventional engine...Now it's time for manufacturers to produce high capacity batteries to enlarge the range and speed. This is the beguining of a new age.
Excellent proyect man. Congratulations to you from Colombia in south America
3. And of course he wouldn't get the same power out of it... He's looking to spend a couple thousand dollars for a hobby, not build his own line of electric supersports in the $30k range. That's not a reason for him to just NOT try it at all. The whole attitude of "go big or go home" in the motorcycle culture is what gets inexperienced squids killed. He's a kid who's eager and willing to get into technology that'll change our world. There's no need to shoot him down for starting small.
This is a cool experiment, I won't belittle you with what I would do. I often think about this and I am glad that you made one. I imagine that you have everyone under the sun trying to explain the problems. That is easy to do when you won't spend the money yourself (themselves).
Very clever design stage. Using cardboard mock ups, Great idea. Great vid.
That's awesome for 09 I'd love to see a company produce an actual conversion kit, or like Mission R to partner with someone and create something affordable.
+Craig Parrish They do.. They're called Zero Electric Bikes.
Nice work! You can hardly tell the difference to look at it!
You probably played the music too!
Nice job, great project. I'm about to buy an Ultra Bee, things have come a long way...
@thaboxking You're right about that, and good for you guys for being ahead of us Americans on this.
the way all motorcycles should sound haha peaceful
Excellent job. You are a very good builder.
Wow really cool and friendly for the environment
I love crazy builds as much as the next guy, but turning a 106 horsepower, 478 pound, 150mph work of mechanical art into a 565 pound two wheel golf kart seems quite counter productive would you say? It's an awesome build and I'm really happy that you got it to working but that 42 mph top speed hurts my soul
GREAT JOB! I hope to get some time to do a similar project. Something along the lines of the monotracer.
Hey, don't get me wrong. I truly admire the design (assuming it his own) and the fact that the bike runs. I'm an engineer too, btw. I just rather try coming up with new things that actually improve on an original design if I'm gonna spend so much effort and time on something. Cheers!
well done guys, lovely project work and the bike looks great.
1. The Mission-R has been around for two years. And by 'around', I mean it's been fully functional and available for test rides and reviews, and has even been on a race track with other bikes - and won first place.
2. Yeah, the Mission-R is ridiculously expensive... because it's just about the best electric sport bike on the market, which is why I chose it as a perfect example. There are much cheaper bikes out there, just as there were a year ago when you posted the comment.
NICE PROJECT,however you will miss engine growling sound
this is great hands on learning,, more people need to get off there azzz and get in to these electric projects.
I had one of these GPX750Rs for 6 1/2 years. I sold it ;-( then saw it for sale and bought it back ;-) for another 3 1/2 years. Great bike. I used to ride hard with guys on R1s etc and keep up (possibly something to do with the rider though!).
the wide frame of this bike seems to make it a rather good choice for an EV conversion.. gives you a lot of space to pack batteries into while still being able to fit the fairings over it... i wonder if he did what a lot of people did and cut the fuel tank in half.. put some hinges and a latch on and use it as a storage compartment
good job dude. screw all the nay sayers. good deal.
Really nice done! I like the noice it makes too, it really is a ordinary mc sound about it, eventhough it's an electric motor!
If ninjas were rice farmers, then yes. That is, in fact, a real ninja.
Cool bike, nice job.
I was inspired ! I just snagged a little block with flexible wands with alligator clips on them to help with my harness. it's called the SolderBuddy Moto. Go Fast! ;)
@assassinsGprods, in Britain you have to put it through an MSVP test which costs roughly £80 for a motorbike and make sure it matches the criteria and if its successful they'll register it, get an MOT done and it's good to go.
Looking good! The green machine!
The bike looks fantastic. Just that the speed is almost decreased to a quarter of the possible. Would it go any faster at a later stage?
@karabesklow
... return the enegery by making electrical machine work as generator on breaking that will increase the distance you travel in traffic conditions. Try to reduce weight by doing all you can. ( best is to turn many metalic componenets to carbonfiber parts but it costs alot ) .
Keep up the good work !
Nice clean project, I like the layout. What is your 0-42 time? have you found the actual range on the bike?
actually he could double the range and make it significantly lighter by simply using NiMh batteries instead. and if he used LifePO4 batteries he could get an additional 40% range ontop of that.
If he wanted even more range still he could switch to a hub motor and use the space for the motor and drive train for extra battery space (at the sacrifice of torque efficiency)
and if he wanted more power he could use a 72V motor
which could all be retrofitted quite easily now
nice bike, one of the cleanest builds I've seen. Any reason why you didn't try to put in a gearbox?
@Starman6915
Think of it in physics terms: if you want to use a dynamo to charge the battery at say 500w, then an extra 500w load is put on the motor, which then means an extra 500w load is drawn from the battery. Therefore, at best you will only gain what you've already lost.
@UH60crewman Electric motors have been around and been developed for longer than internal combustion engines. Nicola Tesla built the first brushless motors. All AC-direct motors are always brushless. The latest innovation has been in electronic motor controllers, which use DC input and control the 3-line AC output to optimize the efficiency of the motor at various RPMs and torque outputs. There isn't that much further that you can go with electric motors any more.
Hoping you're still around...I've done the same thing with LiPo batteries...but need to upgrade motor and controller. what did you use?
Well done. Did you experiment with different gear ratios for top speed/economy? Also, what was the total cost of conversion in $$$/hrs spent?
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This is a whole lot better job than what I'm planning. I'm affectionately titling it my electric rat bike project. A first attempt with used parts to commute 14 miles to work at under 45 mph, charge at work and return home. Gonna be ugly so I'll put some fun rat effects to make it worse
@999firemonkie
EV motors behave very differently and consequently, a unique type of transmission that can handle their torque without wasting as much energy has been developed for the new line of Brammo motorcycles. They actually give you slightly reduced range as it's one more power conversion step and that means necessary losses, but it does increase the top speed considerably.
What a beauty!!! Magic hands!!!
Nice job! I would buy one of those. That's just brilliant.
hey men great bike. its got to be one of the best looking E bikes i've seen.
what range and speeds do you get on this bike?
I want one now! Good video and even better job on the bike
Actually, the batteries are only 43.5 lbs each, the motor is less then 50 lbs, so total power-train is less then 250 lbs. The gas tank on a Ninja 750 holds around 5 gallons of gas, that is 30 lbs by itself, remove the weight of the original battery, the engine and its related controls and you will drop almost 130 lbs, leaving a net increase of only around 80 - 90 lbs overall. By using actual EV batteries, the weight will be even less though the price gets much higher.
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looks real good am thinking of building my self one soon
How much would it cost for you to make my Razor Mx650 Faster or my actual sized Dirt Bike and just concert my gas dirt bike into electric
This build was WAY ahead of its time lol, seriously slap some good lithium batteries on and it would spike your range, top speed and performance would be really cool to see
Мой совет это наверно совет "диванного" эксперта, но почему не использовали мотор-колесо ?
Так былобы место под еще один аккумулятор.
И собственно вопрос по сущетсву, какая емкость аккумуляторов и напряжение питания в том что сделали и какой запас хода вышел в итоге ?
П.С.
Еще один совет, мне это приходило в голову очень давно уже но до сих пор нет возвожмстей ваабще чтото делать не мешая никому рядом жить, :) это жлектромагнитные амортизаторы-генераторы, даст почтоянную подитку заряда на аккумуляторы не нагружая никак двигатель.
Правда есть такие заводские или нет незнаю но если есть мастерская то можно и самому чтото такое сделать.
Wonderful! I dream to make one too, but I am worried about the rain. Is it forbidden to use in the rain?
it's all about the design trades...size, weight, space, range, speed, and COST.
I like the music - I dont know why - thanks for the video - Ive seen it about 100 times- I REALLY REALLY want to build my own also ! have a safe 4th
This was a great bit of engineering works and the video was great Well Done!.
What will be your next project, I really think you can make this inot a great business. Good Luck for the future and dont get put of by some of the negative remarks.
Once again Brilliant from the UK
Do your research. There are plenty of electric bikes out there that are fast, travel long distances, and charge quickly. The Mission-R is 160hp, 0-60 in 3 seconds. Gets up to 150 miles per charge. Charges fully in about 2 hours. The ONLY con against electric motorcycles is their relatively high prices... But they're virtually zero maintenance, and don't need gas. You save a ton of money in the long run.
since im guessing this would be most useful in urban areas, have you looked into regenerative braking? it might not be particularly difficult to implement a basic system, and it could drastically improve range.
I'm thinking of building one myself. although I have no idea which Batterys fits the job best. Any suggestions are welcome.
Only twenty miles of range, eh. Lithium ion technology might allow you to increase that range and drop some weight, if it's not prohibitively expensive. Nice job on the build. Good job on fitting everything inside the stock fairings. Looks clean.
I’ve spent an insane amount of time looking at these projects but they are just too expensive for me! Very impressive though!
It's just that they are more expensive currently as the technology is new, plus the longer range and quick 'charge' of petrol bikes!
Congratulations very good job, one day I will have an electric car, I hope.
Or better we'll all have, I hope.
Greetings from Portugal
that sounds like a true ninja
Excellent work. Very nice project.
nice smart spray booth
Very beautiful work. Kudos.
also. what's the HONEST miles per charge specs when you are easy on the throttle and brakes? 0 to 50 mph on full throttle on as flat and smooth road as possible? If your bike is even HALF the specs of the Brammo Empulse 8.0 you're doing GREAT either way man..DONT GIVE UP! KEEP striving for the top!
BIG and Fantastic work! congratulations! from spain.
até hoje vejo esse video ja assistir umas 15 vezes tou fazendo uma aqui em casa
Ainda tá tentando?
@@foxxyytofficial parei mais vou vim com um novo projeto se deus quizer
@@rodrigo48183 ok, avise quando voltar a fazer
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looks like a winner!! What is the max distance between charges and how fast is it???
@13brotary depending on where you live, it might be a combination of oil and coal.
But it doesn't have to be. he could have a solar panel on his roof. There could be a wind turbine down the road. Perhaps the city draws some of it's power from the river. It is only necessary that he use gasoline if it has a gasoline engine. This is one step. All journeys begin with one step.
nice build.,Thanks for posting
that's really interesting. and wow man and A+ for skills !!!
greets from Thailand everbody :)
See now that's impressive! Replace the batteries with lithium ion (uncase them from used laptop batteries), use super capacitors (pc motherboards) and build the fastest electric bike eva!
Good job!
WOW, That's really cool. I'm planning to do a conversion for my 250r and i'm only fourteen, so if anyone has any tips that would be great.
First wow man well done
You built what people dream about !
Second how do you get the electric motor to have no restrictions on limited speed what do you change?
And what is the amp and Voltage going to the motor directly?