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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2023
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"Odyssey" - John Tasoulas
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Eric Stoltz has said that the script he was working from wasn't as much of a comedy as the film that came out with Michael J. Fox was. I tend to believe Stoltz in this. One of the running gags in the Fox version is that he is wearing a down vest, that everyone in the 1950s keeps calling a "life jacket." _None_ of the scenes with Stoltz have him wearing such a down vest, so *that* joke was obviously not in the earlier version of the film.
I never realized this but that makes so much sense. This makes me want to see Eric Stoltz version even more for just the difference in comedy or levity
That’s a really good point. It may have been a bit of both. The script wasn’t quite as comedic, but he honed in too much on the darker (and valid) implications of the story and made his performance more self-serious or in crisis or what have you.
There was a novelization of the movie when it came out that went more into a backstory about atomic power, and was less comedic than the film. I’ve wondered in years since whether the book was based on a previous draft of the script.
@@75aces97 There were details in the book that matched early scripts, so I would say absolutely.
I've read most of the older scripts for the movie (even the ones prior to casting anyone in any role), and they are still primarily comedy. Also, Stoltz's gimmick was that he wore green shoes rather than a down vest, and the comments made to him in 1955 were in regards to his shoes.
The Eric Stoltz footage ranks very high on my list of lost media I desperately want to see. I’ve been curious about it for decades.
Same. The other lost footage on my list has already been released. That was the lost Sesame Street episode with Margaret Hamilton. So now we just need to get BTTF Eric's footage now.
It really is wild that we haven’t seen more Eric Stoltz footage yet.
It is likely archived, though may have never been formatted off of the original film reel
After seeing The Flash, I now REALLY want to see this footage more than ever!
I really hope if they ever find some, it makes BTTF into Taxi Driver.
Doc: Great Scott!
Stoltz as Marty: This is…heavy. So heavy.
Doc: Heavy? Why is…
Stoltz as Marty grabs Doc by the collar leaning in real menacingly: that’s right! Real…fucking…dog damn motherfucking…heavy… *Glares at Doc
@@UncomfortableShoesIt’s not lost, they have it all. They also received permission from Stoltz to put his footage on DVD. I highly suspect Universal will dole it out over repeated re- releases.
I WANT TO SEE THE FULL MOVIE
Let's hope with the 40th anniversary of BTTF around the corner a mostly complete Eric Stoltz print is added to the list of added extras and with sound I'd say it was 85-90% complete before MJF became available
I swear, Eric Stoltz looks so much like Crispen Glover & Leah Thompson. He may not have been right for the part but physically he’s perfect lol. Also, that jacket he wears is so cool!
You're right, physically, he was an amazing choice. I could legit imagine George and Lorraine producing a child that looked like Eric, he is the perfect inbetween, facially, of the pair.
@@BDog54 Well Stoltz and Thompson would still work together in two other movies! The Wild Life and Some Kind Of Wonderful. Stoltz would still be a McFly well sort of he was in the Fly II as Martin LOL! Get it Marty/Martin, McFly/Fly. 🪰🤔🙃🙆
Given 'Back to the Future' is my second favorite movie of all time tied with and just behind 'A Nightmare on Elm Street' and that I love Eric Stoltz in 'Some Kind of Wonderful' and 'Mask', I really want to see the footage of his version to see what appeals to me. Just because it's him and Doc exactly as HE is in the finished product are ALREADY things I LIKE, but I might like the different vibe and the interactions between him and the rest of the characters because that happens with me and sequels. Knowing what I already know of it and what bits I've seen, I'm INTERESTED in seeing the rest of it, and THAT'S a good thing for it!
2:43
I like this universe where Michael J Fox is Marty Mcfly.
No good reason not to release it, it's not like they recorded a crime or top secret info. As far as not being a full movie, if the tech gets them there, CG / A.I. finish it, this isn't gonna be a new commercial release anyways, just a passion project to show what different DNA would affect a well known product.
100 percent
Rad! I love learning about Back To The Future lost media. It's my favorite trilogy movie.
Would be very interesting seeing what the Eric Stoltz version looked like.
12:22 Fun fact: The scene of Marty seeing the destroyed Hill Valley High School is in the original Back To The Future trailer and has the audio of Marty talking and saying from what I recall "This is heavy."
I also find funny that in that scene the fence to the right just randomly disappears and reappears because of poor editing, it was the 1980s though.
One more thing... The " To be Continued " was a time travel pun... In the 80s when we read books and magazines it was said that "fans of the movie thought there was going to be a sequel and this wasn't going to be the case."
I have to say, i think the back to the future trilogy has to be one of the best trilogy's.
OH GOD I nearly had a heart attack around 15:05! WHY SO SUDDENLY LOUD?!
I once heard Stoltz describe the disconnect between him and Robert Zemeckis as "he was Huey Lewis and I was Talking Heads." He meant it as a metaphor, but thinking about it literally, wouldn't Talking Heads' Once in a Lifetime have a lot more thematic relevance to BttF than Huey Lewis' Power of Love?
It would have, but would a Zemeckis movie have David Byrne on the soundtrack? 😊
Power of Love goes along with the movie much better than Psycho Killer
It's no surprise that, since he was one of the only original cast members of the film to reprise his role, Thom Wilson would have a career as a voice over artist. He does a lot of work on Spongebob, most famously playing Patrick's father. He was also the Banana in the short lived Pig Goat Banana Cricket and Sportsmaster on Batman Brave and the Bold.
I’d say he most famously played the bouncer of the Salty Spittoon in SpongeBob.
Ironically, he didn't initially reprise his role as Biff in Back to the Future: The Game, where Kid Beyond voiced the character instead. This was changed for the 30th anniversary edition (of the film, not the game). You can still hear Kid's take on old retail versions, like the Wii version.
@@BareBandSubscriptionLet's not forget Flatts.
I'm gonna kick your butt!
He wasn’t one of the “only” cast members to resume his role. More did than didn’t.
Got to go on the ride in ‘95 and it was a blast. Went to Universal last year and rode the Simpsons ride (same location as Back to the Future) and it’s just not the same experience whatsoever. Even the park employees will tell you that they wish the ride never left.
I went on that ride in 99. Fun times.
Welp when you give your attraction an actual date inside you are giving that attraction an expiration date. It would be beyond stupid in 2016-2023+ to still be running a ride where the date inside is 2015. Its been almost a decade, people really need to get over it and move on.
Another deleted scene from the first film that was initially released, but has since been removed is an alternate version of Marty finishing his cover of "Johnny B Goode", where he explains that it's rock and roll music.
Surprised you didn't mentioned the cancelled manga adaptation,great video btw!
Thanks!
My favourite part of The Flash 2023 was the mention of Eric Stoltz being Marty Mcfly in the alternative reality where Barry travels in the movie.
If only there was an alternate reality where the Flash was played by someone besides Ezra Miller.
It's pretty telling how awful that movie must be if all you can salvage is a passing mention of a better movie
And they probably stole the joke from Rick and Morty anyway.
Or the of episode of Fringe that shows the alternate world@@mightyfilm
The music that plays at the end is from Super Back to the Future Part II a NES game that was only released in Japan. I personally like it.
I seen the deleted scenes on the BTTF trilogy and I got to experience the ride back in 2003 and it was amazing.
about time big guy lol waiting for this lol
6:53 that tiny split second side glance Doc Brown gives when Marty asks if he becomes an asshole in the future, is so utterly priceless.
My favorite 80s franchise
Love this !
This is dope not gonna lie
Like to see the Stoltz cut to see if he was really that bad but Michael was Marty McFly
I'm sure he was bad, Michael was born for that role.
There's an alternate reality where Michael J Fox was cast, and then was fired for Eric Stoltz. And then Eric Stultz gets Parkinsons.
Did you call Crispin Glover "Christian Glover"? Great Scott!
I had to go back and repeat the first time he mentions his name, yelling in my head “Noooo! It’s Crispin! Think of crispy chicken tenders or CRISPR Cas9 genome editing!” C’mon man! Christian? Pffft!
No mention of this of the computer games? There was another video somewhere that had the game cutscenes, calling it part 4.
I always thought Marty should have woken up the next morning, and be played by either Cameron or Jason Bateman.
Interesting ,thanks, be blessed and all in Jesus shalom
Great Scott
I always thought Buff disappeared because since he changed the past his current version doesn't exist anymore
I don’t consider any other BTTF media to be canon to the main movies.
13:57 Hey, what did you expect? Marty is straight/heterosexual.
They all say, "it just wasn't working with Eric" WTF? Eric is a fine actor. You tell him what to do and he does it and you get what you want. I've never heard before or since , replacing the star of a film after shooting for 5 1/2 weeks! Poor Eric. He must've pissed off the wrong person. what did you do ,Eric. ? he'll never tell.
I think the problem is that he was playing a role that was intended Michael J. Fox. No substitute for the real thing, , sadly for Eric.
Dang! Eric Stoltz almost ruined my childhood. Back To The Future was the first movie i ever seen in Theaters.
Robert Zemekis has that footage under his bed in his house. We just need to get it. But we all know Michael J. Fox was born to play Marty and is perfect in the role. Still, we all want to see Eric's footage.
Glad they deleted the playboy scene. I don't like the idea of Doc looking at porn.
LOL he's an old, lonesome man
@@anotheryoutubeaccount5259he’s not lonesome, his best friend is a 17 year old boy.
@@rxmxnxff Well... that's even more of a reason
@@rxmxnxff Don't act like you've never wacked off... Or are you just a playboy who gets all the ladies?
Yeah, I know, life doesn't revolve around women but men have an innate desire to get their sexual energy out. That's how it is.
@@rxmxnxff But the suitcase belonged to old Doc. 😎
I think it wouldve been cool for Marty to run into his parents again years later, maybe not how they wanted to though
13:53 I do believe that was meant to be a play on words. Marty meaning "gay" as a "homosexual", and Doc thinking it as "carefree" or "joyful" (a more popular definition in the 50's), that's why he responds "Why shouldn't you be happy?". But, on hindsight, it was for the better that it got cut. Having your main character saying "being gay" as a bad thing isn't a good look.
If you're not born gay I doubt you would wish to become gay. From my hetero pov being gay is not a bad thing per se but it's not something I would risk on becoming (which is what Marty says). Gays will always be a minority in society which is always an obstacle one way or another.
HA gayyy comment
It was very of it’s time, but it definitely would have dated the movie. It’s a pretty funny exchange, though. Doc saves it.
its wild how often the word F*ggot was dropped in 80s movies 😬
some things can stay in the past lol
@@poindextertunes yeah, the 'f' word is one of my problems with the original Predator film. That, and just too much testosterone. It's why I prefer the sequels. But when I do watch it, I have to remind myself "that's just the era." Jesse Ventura would actually give tongue-lashing to someone who said it today. So would Arnie. Even I said it back then as a kid, until in 1989 when several of us kids used it to refer to New Kids on the Block. My 2nd grade teacher said that's not very nice, and that it was a bad word.
The part where the original script for BTTF II scene with Jaws 19 as Godzilla 19 being that we had a Godzilla in 2014 failed to mention we actually had a Godzilla movie called Godzilla 1985 which would have made more sense.
14:54 I was one that went looking through the 2002 DVD release of BTTF, on a computer, & found that banned deleted scene.
I wasn't even looking for it.
Can someone give me a link to these early drafts please?
Some Melora Hardin footage as Jennifer would be interesting too, but not sure if she actually did any filming before she was let go from the project.
As much as I like Eric Stoltz and believe he did the best he could, I dont think this series wouldve done so well without the comedic timing we have now. Hugely dramatic movies need tight realism to maintain the serious tone. But a time travel movie in nature is hard to suspend disbelief in. Had they stayed with Eric, he wouldve done fine and movie wouldve been ok. But the comedic nature helps us pull back from an overly serious tone to take the movie entirely serious and we let cheesy or unrealistic elements slide a little. We all know that some of cheesiest or ridiculous movies we all love get saved by this edge of comedy that cuts through it all. Back to the Future needed this to become as iconic as it is today.
12:23; on the KC special, it has sound, but not on the dvd.
Reminds me when Star Wars hired Mark Hamilton when he was committed to the TV show 8 is enough.
They didn't hire Mark Hamilton.
In regards to the BttF-ride at Universal Studios! It blows my mind, that they ever tore that down! The movies are as popular as ever, and it doesn’t get more classic than BttF :-( I really dig The Simpsons ride, but not enough to have it replace BttF! One is just way above the other, and BttF should’ve ramained (so very little classic stuff left there to begin with)
Thanks for this video, greatly enjoyed it! :-)
Michael J was a huge part of the success. I don't know if Eric's version would've done as well.
It's funny how in that article he assumes BttF would have been just as successful and made him rich. No way to know if it would have done poorly, but I'm positive it would not have been a classic.
@@RaffBuilding I caught that too. In no way shape or form would it have been so iconic, he was dry and flat. Even the way he walked was wrong.
The film was a Michael J Fox vehicle, might not have had any sequels had not Michael saved the day by making the time to film.
I went on the ride in 1991 they had the train outside
Release the Stoltz cut. 🤣🤣
I don't know why Bob Gale doesn't want to "embarrass" Eric Stolz with releasing his Gawd awful method acting Marty McFly. It'd be interesting to see and educational to watch. Universal pushed Eric Stolz into the role. It's not like Eric was initially.casted nor auditioned. Considering it less embarrassing and more enlightening as to WHY Eric Stolz just didn't click with Robert Zemeckis vision.
Opinionated much?
@@stephenbanks5860 OPINONS/ASSHOLES. It's an overpopulated world...
is there any lost media related to the video games?
Please talk about parker plays lost episodes
Eric Stoltz didn't have a 'successful' career - and he really missed the opportunity of his life by not being what they wanted for BTTF.
How many times did this happen in movies, where another actor films scenes then they get someone else? I know Harvey Keitel filmed scenes for Apocalypse Now.
Lt. Hicks in Aliens. Aragorn in Lord of the Rings.
@@TabbyTimeOut Ah ok. Who played the original ones in those movies?
@@AmIDeadYet Aragorn was Stewart Townsend. Early in filming it was decided he wasn't right for the part and they got Viggo. Not sure who originally played Hicks. I just remember Michael Bien talking about how he was a late add and how he had to wear the armour the other guy decorated. There's also one shot of the other guy in the movie. A shot where they are walking into the hive in the processing station. The first X-men also swapped out Dougray Scott for Hugh Jackman. I don't think filming had started thought.
A Nightmare On Elm Street part 2. Random stuntman in a mask as Freddy. Over half of the movie was shot before they realized they needed Robert Englund back. Roughly 2 seconds remain in the movie of the unnamed stuntman, most likely due to the practical effect, which is pretty cool.
He can be stolz of his career (haha)
Hopefully something for 40th Anniversary
Wow, it's been so long that this great movie came out. I was born in 86, a year after this came out in 85.
Oh
They chose Eric Stoltz over C Thomas Howell who was close to beating Eric out for the role. if C Thomas Howell Had been cast they probably would have stuck with him.
Lloyd was up for the part?
I think that, with AI and deepfakes, it would be relatively easy to complete an Eric Stoltz version of BTTF. And, in a few years the tech will be advanced enough to recreate an entire Stoltz trilogy.
Of course what Jeff Goldblum says in Jurassic Park remains valid...
Hollywood,.. uh ... uh,.. finds a way... ;x)
Wouldn't be the same. We want to see the *differences* thus what you're suggesting is highly redundant
The flash movie of all movies mentioned Eric Stoltz in Back To The Future #RepeaseTheEricStoltzFootage
I know this is not a popular opinion among Future fans, but even as a big fan of the movies - I much prefer the Simpson's ride. I rode the Back To The Future ride numerous times and while the movie portion was ok, the ride vehicles were crap. They were shaky, rattly, and you could see all the other cars around you. The Simpson's ride was a huge improvement in tech. 😎
Whatever. They should have hired Judd Nelson
7:06 "Only one prediction the film nearly got right." Not a baseball fan I see.
I love back to the future and consume every video I see about the franchise. But I'm out on this one by 7 min mark. How to mangle the English language
Eric stolz is the one that punched marty on that scene. He is still marty mcfly on that scene.
Why are you whispering?
lmao at 14:15 what is the context of this. im dying.
To be honest, I don't care about Stoltz bits of BTTF. It's a masterpiece with Fox as Marty. I don't don't need to hear an interview with him. Who really cares?
Yeah, nothing against Stoltz, but there would never have been a franchise with him. Fox's energy made that movie work. 😎
Umm..am I experiencing the Mandela effect? I saw the movie in theaters in 1985. Wasn't the end line "To be continued" always there?
I think I remember it that way in the theatrical cut too. However a few years earlier Dr Detroit had one, too, and I wasn’t sure whether that was a gag or a sincere promise of a sequel. Even though I was a kid I thought the movie was just right on its own and really didn’t want a sequel.
We’ll see an AI version someday no doubt
Other than Die Hard and Back to the Future are there any other movie series where the third movie is the best?
Revenge of the Sith.
@@lamarravery4094
Oh, dude, no way lol
Maybe Toy Story, depending on who you ask.
so just lick bait then. Same old rehash of rehashed mush.
Eric Stolz is a really good actor and could have been good in this movie with his version ....just not Michael J Fox good . If it was more of a sci fi film Eric Stoltz would have been really good .
Talk about the Mandela effect. I thought Eric Stolz was always in the movie.
Eric played way too serious, he lacking light-hearted charisma of MJ Fox and other actors, every scene with him feels like dramatic character got sucked into comedy and don't know how to be funny. It's almost how Tommy Wauseao in Room tried to be serious, but this time it's opposite.
You’ve seen like 20 seconds of silent footage. You can’t judge a performance off that. At best, he looks more overwhelmed and in crisis. The reason why people want to see more of this footage is because they’re curious about his performance, meaning we don’t actually know how well or how badly he did.
@@BareBandSubscription ive seen way more and not even silent, longe before this video, but even couple of seconds is enough to see that man plays dead serious, its his facial expression alone even on still shots gives away he is not right guy for this movie. Its an eye sight, smile (or lack of), and things like that, they all gives aways he is permanently serious and dramatic and not a good fit for any lighthearted movie like this. And ive seen thousands of movies in my life so i dont need to waste hours to judge performance, couple of seconds enough for me to say - nope, i dont believe its not Marty McFly!
@@YOBAMUSTDIE
So you basically just confirmed you’re judging all this based on facial expressions. I just said that. You haven’t seen the performance. Please get real.
Why does not wanting to be gay not age well? Not personally wanting to tske part in LGBTQIABCDEFG doesn't mean you HATE those people......
Using “gay” in a context where it seems like an objectively bad thing to be gay is legit homophobic. Does that mean they were coming from a place of hatred? Not necessarily, of course. But there’s a difference between saying something that’s inherently offensive vs “not taking part”. Also, referring to the LGBT as an exaggerated string of letters followed by calling them “those people” is not a great look, my dude. I’m not accusing you of anything, but it’s a bit of a red flag.
@@BareBandSubscription So, where do we draw the line? To show that we're accepting should we fall on our knees and fellate gay people when we see them?
If that sounds ridiculous, BLM was asking white people to kneel not so long ago.
Back to the future 3 was one of the most disappointing movie I've ever seen in a theater (even including Superman 4 and masters of the universe). It just felt like half of a movie. I remember sitting there after the credits and the lights came back on just being disappointed and confused since the first 2 were so good.