Shapeshifter rankings (I Forgot to put them in...) Hellspawn A+ Tier - most insane DPS in the game ATM which fully carries it obviously mobility is on the weaker side but even with T7 Hellspawn u can fight 8.3 bloodletter and other meta builds with ease it's insanely broken Prowling Low A Tier - Sadly prowling has been hit with tons of nerfs, it's still very playable tho but sadly just not at the top of the food chain anymore. These are pretty much the only 2 shapeshifters i would consider playing in the mists (Sorry for forgetting to put them in the list hope this helps)
Love the list, but the huge variables are your IP and what you combine the weapon with to make up for issues. With that in mind, would love to see a video on say “best weapons for mists in the 1250 IP range” 👌
Actually this tire list is more accurate than others...ppl keep telling us 1h spear is A+ but if u do one single mistake u die? And this weapon supposed to kill swords easily but dual swords and carving always punish u with their insane damage if u do a mistake ..so yeah its on B tire blow swords
current spear is like bloodletter wannabe, just look at the builds playing it at the old school style (not stalker jacket and purge helmet) u have not so much success... I mean it even doesn't hard counter swords with cripple anymore since they got that nasty leap on Q
Well I do be seeing way more tombhammers than chillhowls and it doesnt mean tomb wins vs chillhowl but it has more mobility that is the deciding factor
as a bladed and great hammer player i must tell u that once u get good with great hammer it becomes the old bladed staff before the cd nerfs and dmg nerfs
I would put dual swords higher. Fact that they don’t loose stacks after e makes them insane chasers, also they are super good brawlers. They can be countered but it is not that easy as it seems, the radius of e is insane and if you e on opponents global cooldown it will be hard to counter.
@@SaneAO Nice vid it was a good watch. maybe you are confusing dual swords with another sword but they do not consume Heroic Charges on E cast. That being said, the tier you put them in is just fine imo
DBS sucks.. it can't really do any brawl and with stun run being nerfed.. quite easy to catch too.. bloodletter is good if you play as a IP abuser and max out awaken - otherwise BL sucks
It gets really confusing when he says bow of badon is the best bow and puts it in c tier.. then puts short bow in b tier... I thought bow of badon was better, so why is short ow higher tier? I'm gana assume b tier is actually c tier? Idk.
I mean the weapon is so forgotten that ppl tend to underestimate it when facing it lol Talking about it from a objective PoV for a tier list is another story, the weapon is surely playable but in mists context it has low mobility and mid dmg, also for playing it u require a lot of game knowledge while the meta weapons can just slap the keyboard with their dongs and have better success than you
I agree with this list. Absolutely on point. Even after the slight nerfs, double bladed and bloodletter are still top, they are still broken and op. I felt kinda sad when I saw my boy (broadsword) not even going in B tier, but they got him dirty, nerfed it to oblivion and forgot of its existence.
I mean yeah it got a bunch of nerfs cuz corrupted cringe until SBI adressed the actual issue lol They should revert some nerfs from it and fix the E hit bug
Sorry for the translation I'm doing my best : Is this list only available if you knows how to play or use T8 weapons or does it match with beginers skill and T4-6 weapons ? If it's not clear tell me 😂
Normal bow have more dmg and more mobility than Badon, and you put it lower? rlly? And then you say the problem is no mobility? Dude that is the only bow with a small jump in mobility, over all other bows, that makes no sense
@@MLarios97 its just something that went unnoticed but if u wanna listen to yellow zone noobs you can or you can listen to somebody that has played for 6+ years been rank 1# several times in hellgates and has 20k hours :)
Hey buddy im so dumb I picked a list where shapeshifters werent in and didnt notice... Primal staff i would consider a middle A tier weapon, its very tanky and has good crowd controll sadly it just lacks DPS and is often required to run cloth which makes it so when it goes human form it takes waaay to much dmg. I would rather opt to play Prowling or Hellspawn.
@@SaneAO now I am confused...should I use bl or carving...can u say me which weapon would be good for me...is bl more versatile and has less counters?or vice
If you want to play bl properly you’ll need to be full spec on daggers tree + min 6.3 set. Carving is waaaay more noob friendly and can be used in any tier above 5 and fight a fair 1v1. Bloodletter low tier play style is basically ratting, that’s it. Carving = brawl, better potential at 1v1 but lack of mobility, you’ll need to play around your Q stacks Bloodletter (low tier)= rat with high mobility Bloodletter (high tier)= ip abuser with high mobility, can reset almost any fight always.
@@SaneAOit is true a little but in 99% of games theres always certain weapons/classes that have more advantages but it’s just plain boring that people put this same comment on every tier list just play what you like doesn’t win medals🤣
If you are a meta slave for solo content, daggers or swords at 700, swords are better option as a newbie weapon. And if you just want to have fun, anything but arcanes, nature staffs and holy. (Solo content) Also Bow/warbow are good for corrupted dungeons and warbow/badon for mists.
@@raikiri1327 if going that way yeah, swords (carving), daggers (bletter) and quarterstaffs (dbladed staff) are the way to go u stomp with big pp IP and can escape fairly easy if u are on a bad situation
hi i have not the premium, so its slow the progress i need a weapon to play as a DPS, has to be usefull in a party but i need the capability to play solo too, i like war axe, dual swords, axes can steal life, swords increase the atack speed whit every charge, carbed sword its a bit slow to my taste but i gues is strong, i know i ask a lot but could yo help me to decide wich rise to 100 first, the last consideration is be able to play abbeys and solo dungeons to make some money, thanks a lot from argentina!
Daybreaker with duskweaver build has 0 counter and potentially win against all the S S++ list. It deserve to be S tier. For Sure not S++ because BL is just ridiculously strong but S for sure.
@@aratox971 literally the counter to it is having more mobility and higher IP, also mistwalker hard counters the E, that statement about daybreaker is kind of biased imo sure it can brawl better than spear (and that's good since we are in a brawl/mobility meta), also has built-in purge but besides that it's not the BIGGEST threat in mists no need to mention that u need a bit of brain to play it while S+ weapons can just slap the keyboeard with their pp's and win
@@tinkukiller7915 higher IP works for any weapon 🤷🏼, and in case you lose trade cripple gives you actually more mobility than any weapon in the game. If you play correctly your fight no weapon win trades against daybreaker. And mistwalker is not a day breaker counter, it works the same for any weapon’s E. Mistwalker lack is just the mvp item for any weapon
@@tinkukiller7915 I’m not putting daybreaker on S+. I said S tier was fair, higher IP is indeed a « counter » for any weapon. With duskweaver helmet you have almost the same mobility than any weapon since you hit the helmet. And in case you lose the trade cripple gives you more mobility than your opponent to just reset. You mention mistwalker jacket as a counter but it actually counter any E weapon this has no sens 🤷🏼. Well the tierlist is based on mobility brawl and day breaker with my build is totally in phase with this. You can ask any player from the top 20 if they would start a fight thinking they have great chance of win against me. Of course the weapon is more skilled than swords or dagger but we talk here about a tierlist for meta stuff based on the skilled player that run the meta.
As main badon and spear player...im mean you right about badon..but damage is not the only issue.cast speed on W and lack of mobility is worse...reflect can hit hard badons .but i love this weapon and i always challenge myself with it..i hate the ez play style on curse . Fire . Carving .bl and others ..so faking unbalanced:/
Spear tier A Bloodlether tier S In the current meta spear is bloodletter but worse And if you don't play it with the NPC build (stalker jacket + stalker hood) it is even worse lol
Shapeshifter rankings (I Forgot to put them in...)
Hellspawn A+ Tier - most insane DPS in the game ATM which fully carries it obviously mobility is on the weaker side but even with T7 Hellspawn u can fight 8.3 bloodletter and other meta builds with ease it's insanely broken
Prowling Low A Tier - Sadly prowling has been hit with tons of nerfs, it's still very playable tho but sadly just not at the top of the food chain anymore.
These are pretty much the only 2 shapeshifters i would consider playing in the mists
(Sorry for forgetting to put them in the list hope this helps)
what about hellspawn after the update?
what about bloodmoon?
And what about werewolf stafs in solo/duo avalon now?
@@yeashviennair1478 bad
@@ЮрійЯкимишин its a decent weapon for 1vX but in 1v1 its ass
Love the list, but the huge variables are your IP and what you combine the weapon with to make up for issues. With that in mind, would love to see a video on say “best weapons for mists in the 1250 IP range” 👌
Actually this tire list is more accurate than others...ppl keep telling us 1h spear is A+ but if u do one single mistake u die? And this weapon supposed to kill swords easily but dual swords and carving always punish u with their insane damage if u do a mistake ..so yeah its on B tire blow swords
Skill issue lil bro
current spear is like bloodletter wannabe, just look at the builds
playing it at the old school style (not stalker jacket and purge helmet) u have not so much success...
I mean it even doesn't hard counter swords with cripple anymore since they got that nasty leap on Q
Skill issue tbh
Never let bro cook again (the list is actually not bad)
Let me cook 😢
I’ve seen more terrorist tier lists before, this one is a little bit sus but overall great
Tombhammer over chillhowl is criminal lol but solid list overall
Well I do be seeing way more tombhammers than chillhowls and it doesnt mean tomb wins vs chillhowl but it has more mobility that is the deciding factor
Bro is Heisenberg with this cooking!
More tier lists please 😭🔥 this is awesome content. Any shot you'll do a best dps weapon for duos in the future ??
Sounds like a great idea! Thanks for the comment
Dont let bro cook
i cooked tho
This is a good video, thanks! We would like to see a tier list of weapons somewhere around 1250 IP! Because not everyone can play in 8.4 :D
Thanks bud a low IP tierlist sounds good!
1H dagger is going insanely top, wtf?! This thing will be countering by 90% other weapons, why is it too high?
as a bladed and great hammer player i must tell u that once u get good with great hammer it becomes the old bladed staff before the cd nerfs and dmg nerfs
Hot tierlist
Great fire
@@GPIOSSSSS great fire is sadly terrible in mists
Awesome video! I would have liked to see the druidic staff in the cheese build section 😊
wth
Grovekeeper in the dont play category? Pog log doesn't deserve the slander
out of a for fun stand point it could have been in the list but to compete with the strongest weapons it sadly just doesnt do that.
I would put dual swords higher. Fact that they don’t loose stacks after e makes them insane chasers, also they are super good brawlers. They can be countered but it is not that easy as it seems, the radius of e is insane and if you e on opponents global cooldown it will be hard to counter.
Dual Swords does lose stacks after E'ing...
@@SaneAO Nice vid it was a good watch. maybe you are confusing dual swords with another sword but they do not consume Heroic Charges on E cast. That being said, the tier you put them in is just fine imo
@@Flisity am I crazy I’ve fought them so many times maybe I haven’t noticed they didn’t drop stacks..
@@SaneAO they drop stacks, SBI ovebuffed them when trying the revive this weapon
Only thing i dont agree is hellfire being at dont play list, list is pretty good
yeah tbh has a fair place in cheese weapons
DBS sucks.. it can't really do any brawl and with stun run being nerfed.. quite easy to catch too.. bloodletter is good if you play as a IP abuser and max out awaken - otherwise BL sucks
Disagree - DBS is only good as an IP abuser. Blood letter you can still rat kills on lower IP
The META is to IP abuse that is why DB and BL are in the S++ they are insanely good in higher IP fights.
Is whispering really that bad? Serious question. If so, would you recommend a build that could help my whispering bow?😅
Why C is higher than B?
It gets really confusing when he says bow of badon is the best bow and puts it in c tier.. then puts short bow in b tier... I thought bow of badon was better, so why is short ow higher tier? I'm gana assume b tier is actually c tier? Idk.
It's also a guy pronouncing the W in the word sword. Idk man, you connect the dots.
For to make me and you dumsses comment to video.
Great nature should be S+ tier as well :(
If onesimee is on Gnature yes its S+ otherwise veri bad
Thx for the list. ❤
Do one for duo mists
another one that underestimates arcanists but thats good >:)
Its not about underestimating but to the meta weapons its garbage sadly.
I mean the weapon is so forgotten that ppl tend to underestimate it when facing it lol
Talking about it from a objective PoV for a tier list is another story, the weapon is surely playable but in mists context it has low mobility and mid dmg, also for playing it u require a lot of game knowledge while the meta weapons can just slap the keyboard with their dongs and have better success than you
I agree with this list. Absolutely on point. Even after the slight nerfs, double bladed and bloodletter are still top, they are still broken and op. I felt kinda sad when I saw my boy (broadsword) not even going in B tier, but they got him dirty, nerfed it to oblivion and forgot of its existence.
I mean yeah it got a bunch of nerfs cuz corrupted cringe until SBI adressed the actual issue lol
They should revert some nerfs from it and fix the E hit bug
Sorry for the translation I'm doing my best : Is this list only available if you knows how to play or use T8 weapons or does it match with beginers skill and T4-6 weapons ? If it's not clear tell me 😂
This list is for what is the best at the current moment obviously the higher tier u go the better but it still works with lower tiers.
Ok thx 😊
@@nicolasjolivet3599 no problem :)
I’ve seen worse lists. Pretty close to what I would say. GG.
Is C tier C TIER ? Or B tier ? Cause it s swapped
Is it for high ip mist or overall ip?
Highest IP is always King is MISTS since its uncapped
@@SaneAOyeah but sometimes some weapon excels with 1800 ip while in t4 it suxx or is normal tier compared to other t4
Normal bow have more dmg and more mobility than Badon, and you put it lower? rlly? And then you say the problem is no mobility? Dude that is the only bow with a small jump in mobility, over all other bows, that makes no sense
You said 110% win ratre and mine is 110% - 100% =10%
Yea its 10% win rate for me
Its impossible to have 110% win rate as it would mean he won 11 fights out of 10
Can u tell me the best one hand crossbow Build for solo mists, i dont find a good one?
1h crossbow muisak guardian helm cleric robe any plate boots with martlock or undead cape
@@SaneAO Okay Thank You
Hello fellow Swede :)
DUO mist next
Build for double Bladed please, solo mist 🎉
purity cowl, stalker jacket, any refreashing sprint boots, thetford cape.
Albion should pay you for this video it's inSANE!!!
Where is infinty blade?
what abt artic staff bro? i play that weapon and i always kill the deathgivers. do you think it's the new meta?
It's one of those things that is playable but it just isnt meta and up there.
@@SaneAO thanks for your thoughts bro < 3
@@joshualopez2738 Thanks for the comment
As a hellfire main wtf hell naw why you do me like this and he puts bolt caster and blazing wtf
Where is Infinity blade?
Bruh B and C are swapped?
Yeah the list i got from a guy that was cooked but in general doesnt matter that much.
@@SaneAOit does. It shows you put as less effort as you can in what you do, making whatever you say unreliable due to half assedness
@@MLarios97 its just something that went unnoticed but if u wanna listen to yellow zone noobs you can or you can listen to somebody that has played for 6+ years been rank 1# several times in hellgates and has 20k hours :)
Why is C Tier shown above B tier? I am confused.
What did you say after stalker jacket? If you have tunic??? What is that?
Where are shapeshifters?
sadly forgot the put them in but i put a comment which i pinned.
You have prowling still in S tier and blood moon in A tier. Other are don't play. There you go, I finished the tier list for you👍
Hi please create new tierlist
corrupted tier list ❤
hammer best then chillhow??
Why is C tier above B tier?
Mistake
Why no primal?
Hey buddy im so dumb I picked a list where shapeshifters werent in and didnt notice...
Primal staff i would consider a middle A tier weapon, its very tanky and has good crowd controll sadly it just lacks DPS and is often required to run cloth which makes it so when it goes human form it takes waaay to much dmg. I would rather opt to play Prowling or Hellspawn.
hey wanna ask if i spec up bloodletter will i be set for the mist? XD
i play a little so want to spec a single weapon thats gonna allow me to do pvp
I think bloodletter/carving is the top weapons to spec up so decide what you enjoy the most and pick from one of those 2 if you wanna be meta.
@@SaneAO now I am confused...should I use bl or carving...can u say me which weapon would be good for me...is bl more versatile and has less counters?or vice
@@dastan4750 Play Bloodletter.
@@SaneAO okay sensei
If you want to play bl properly you’ll need to be full spec on daggers tree + min 6.3 set. Carving is waaaay more noob friendly and can be used in any tier above 5 and fight a fair 1v1. Bloodletter low tier play style is basically ratting, that’s it.
Carving = brawl, better potential at 1v1 but lack of mobility, you’ll need to play around your Q stacks
Bloodletter (low tier)= rat with high mobility
Bloodletter (high tier)= ip abuser with high mobility, can reset almost any fight always.
i mean every weapon can be good if you know how to play it and have experience playing it
not true
@@SaneAOit is true a little but in 99% of games theres always certain weapons/classes that have more advantages but it’s just plain boring that people put this same comment on every tier list just play what you like doesn’t win medals🤣
C and B are swapped?
What about infinity blade?
High A Tier weapon.
Where does infinity blade rank?
Whcih tier sou would put powling staff on curenr patch?
low A tier since its gotten hit time and time again with nerfs. Its still very playable tho.
stoker jacket is nerf..... influence?
why r weapons that do so little damage in s++
What weapon to max out spec?
I mean fun should come first but if you just wanna play 1# meta Carving,Bloodletter or anything in S tier up
If you are a meta slave for solo content, daggers or swords at 700, swords are better option as a newbie weapon. And if you just want to have fun, anything but arcanes, nature staffs and holy. (Solo content)
Also Bow/warbow are good for corrupted dungeons and warbow/badon for mists.
@@Josu1v9 dont have skill so wanted to overcome with high spec
@@Josu1v9 arcane is fun bro, u can do big brain moves with some E's and mimick lol
@@raikiri1327 if going that way yeah, swords (carving), daggers (bletter) and quarterstaffs (dbladed staff) are the way to go
u stomp with big pp IP and can escape fairly easy if u are on a bad situation
anyone got a build for DBS (double bladed staff)? Lethal solo mists
Stalker jacket Purity cowl/cultist cowl, any refreashing sprint and thetford cape
hi i have not the premium, so its slow the progress i need a weapon to play as a DPS, has to be usefull in a party but i need the capability to play solo too, i like war axe, dual swords, axes can steal life, swords increase the atack speed whit every charge, carbed sword its a bit slow to my taste but i gues is strong, i know i ask a lot but could yo help me to decide wich rise to 100 first, the last consideration is be able to play abbeys and solo dungeons to make some money, thanks a lot from argentina!
Why are their build with low damage but good mobility
mobility is king in mist especially with all the rats
But like I won’t be able to kill anybody if I do no damage and what’s a build that does damage but also has good mobility
How dare you put my spears in A tier 🤬
Spears are very well rounded but sadly they arent the king of the mists with that being said tho they are really good still.
Daybreaker with duskweaver build has 0 counter and potentially win against all the S S++ list. It deserve to be S tier. For Sure not S++ because BL is just ridiculously strong but S for sure.
@@aratox971 literally the counter to it is having more mobility and higher IP, also mistwalker hard counters the E, that statement about daybreaker is kind of biased imo
sure it can brawl better than spear (and that's good since we are in a brawl/mobility meta), also has built-in purge but besides that it's not the BIGGEST threat in mists
no need to mention that u need a bit of brain to play it while S+ weapons can just slap the keyboeard with their pp's and win
@@tinkukiller7915 higher IP works for any weapon 🤷🏼, and in case you lose trade cripple gives you actually more mobility than any weapon in the game. If you play correctly your fight no weapon win trades against daybreaker.
And mistwalker is not a day breaker counter, it works the same for any weapon’s E. Mistwalker lack is just the mvp item for any weapon
@@tinkukiller7915 I’m not putting daybreaker on S+. I said S tier was fair, higher IP is indeed a « counter » for any weapon. With duskweaver helmet you have almost the same mobility than any weapon since you hit the helmet. And in case you lose the trade cripple gives you more mobility than your opponent to just reset.
You mention mistwalker jacket as a counter but it actually counter any E weapon this has no sens 🤷🏼.
Well the tierlist is based on mobility brawl and day breaker with my build is totally in phase with this.
You can ask any player from the top 20 if they would start a fight thinking they have great chance of win against me. Of course the weapon is more skilled than swords or dagger but we talk here about a tierlist for meta stuff based on the skilled player that run the meta.
bro using some ancient mic
its not that bad common.
@@SaneAO my 4 dollar mic performs better
@@Wesołek_pl Okay great.
What is mosac? He said 1h ax E hits hard w it what is that?
It is musiak, a type of offhand
An expensive off hand if you dont know what it is or does you shouldnt be using in you will drain your silver fast
Is infernal sythe that bad? Lol
@@swinglow6580 sadly yes
Why is broadsword soo bad:(
Where is crystal reaper?
As main badon and spear player...im mean you right about badon..but damage is not the only issue.cast speed on W and lack of mobility is worse...reflect can hit hard badons .but i love this weapon and i always challenge myself with it..i hate the ez play style on curse . Fire . Carving .bl and others ..so faking unbalanced:/
C tier oder B tier ? xD but nive video
Spear tier S
Bloodlether tier A
Spear tier A
Bloodlether tier S
In the current meta spear is bloodletter but worse
And if you don't play it with the NPC build (stalker jacket + stalker hood) it is even worse lol
mid tier list
@@DragonsThief mid player