I think it just makes sense Cruel King and Griefer didn't have their actions set on their true intentions, HATRED used the swords to make them follow it's orders (as in promising them with power, or such) as The Voices so it could control their actions Cruel King had a noble cause, but his fear and hatred of the future from what HATRED told him made him fall to the demon Griefer had a hatred towards his father, which enabled HATRED to control him and in turn do things he wouldn't have done otherwise while HATRED is HATRED The music being different here really explains how much of a vile creature Hatred really is, especially with the fact It isnt even human atleast that's what i think lol
Yeah no doubt HATRED is the main villain. Dudes the reason for you fighting 2 of the bosses that aren't in your mind with you straight up facing the RED THING down after it presumably tries taking you over as well as to avoid having to deal with you doing anything to it in anybody's mind. (along with having a physical vessel capable of wielding all of the swords of time at once? We've never seen anyone BUT us wield more than one and we ARE said to be the chosen one so, I assume that anybody who isn't "chosen" essentially suffers the effects of the ghost walker but like WAY worse, potentially being erased from time as the swords ARE said to be the swords of TIME. Perhaps the reason we can wield them is because we are more temporally stable having come further along in time?)
@@star_straw If you dont remember about Cruel King's dialogue, saying about a tainting Voice in his head, then i understand cause that's on his battle in blackrock The Voices ended up getting to Cruel King because of his vulnerable emotions yet strong will to protect Blackrock himself he ended up giving him, got the Icedagger and yadda yadda till we fight him somewhat the same thing with Griefer, slightly different on the reason part
Also, HATRED has the biggest path I like to think it just connects with how impactful each fight was to the player ( longer = worser ) I haven't seen how much Cruel Kind or Bubonic Plant is compared to eachother, but I believe Bubonic Plant has a slightly bigger path than King
halved chance of it happening though, after Darkheart, Illumina will be the last sword to be added and I think they're going to make something inverse than that
And neither when getting the ghostwalker, the player does not manifested by hatred, the player is GETTING RID of hatred to make theirself pure to held the ghostwalker
Even tho he edited it and its not real ... its supposed to be nirvana song but creepier makes sense cuz u sit with guru and u enter ur own mind.. where the memories reside and hatred can also be in everyones minds afterall
But it is real????? Do it for yourself, reverse the audio and speed it up by 5x. I didn’t fake this, there’d be no reason to and I don’t wanna waste people’s time If you look at other videos regarding this topic, you’ll see they probably do the same thing, so why would we ALL fake it???
me when I’m the first person I can find to make this secret into a video and other people find it a week later, post it and get way more views 😭
I think it just makes sense
Cruel King and Griefer didn't have their actions set on their true intentions, HATRED used the swords to make them follow it's orders (as in promising them with power, or such) as The Voices so it could control their actions
Cruel King had a noble cause, but his fear and hatred of the future from what HATRED told him made him fall to the demon
Griefer had a hatred towards his father, which enabled HATRED to control him and in turn do things he wouldn't have done otherwise
while HATRED is HATRED
The music being different here really explains how much of a vile creature Hatred really is, especially with the fact It isnt even human
atleast that's what i think lol
Yeah no doubt HATRED is the main villain.
Dudes the reason for you fighting 2 of the bosses that aren't in your mind with you straight up facing the RED THING down after it presumably tries taking you over as well as to avoid having to deal with you doing anything to it in anybody's mind. (along with having a physical vessel capable of wielding all of the swords of time at once? We've never seen anyone BUT us wield more than one and we ARE said to be the chosen one so, I assume that anybody who isn't "chosen" essentially suffers the effects of the ghost walker but like WAY worse, potentially being erased from time as the swords ARE said to be the swords of TIME. Perhaps the reason we can wield them is because we are more temporally stable having come further along in time?)
curious, are the voices ever mentioned in any context connected to The Cruel King?
@@star_straw If you dont remember about Cruel King's dialogue, saying about a tainting Voice in his head, then i understand
cause that's on his battle in blackrock
The Voices ended up getting to Cruel King because of his vulnerable emotions yet strong will to protect Blackrock himself
he ended up giving him, got the Icedagger and yadda yadda till we fight him
somewhat the same thing with Griefer, slightly different on the reason part
@JuglyFun thanks man!
@@star_straw no problem, just make sure to not give in to HATRED and you're good lol
The ever lasting peace is corrupted by the hatred and anger of the players very soul
this is JSAB level OST secrets right here
Also, HATRED has the biggest path
I like to think it just connects with how impactful each fight was to the player ( longer = worser )
I haven't seen how much Cruel Kind or Bubonic Plant is compared to eachother, but I believe Bubonic Plant has a slightly bigger path than King
1:14 oh thats why the song is slowed to 5x
in the future the world is destroyed by YOU you hate your self the swords are also the reason why hatred manifests in every sword. you are the villain
halved chance of it happening though, after Darkheart, Illumina will be the last sword to be added and I think they're going to make something inverse than that
And neither when getting the ghostwalker, the player does not manifested by hatred, the player is GETTING RID of hatred to make theirself pure to held the ghostwalker
@@LittleZucky Hatred is still alive. Unlike the other emotions, who collapsed when we defeated them, Hatred "became tame"
@skeletoneyd want waht
@@LittleZucky at the end of the boss fights it says, "Greed collapsed", "Solitude collapsed", " Fear collapsed", but "Hatred became tame"
Even tho he edited it and its not real ... its supposed to be nirvana song but creepier makes sense cuz u sit with guru and u enter ur own mind.. where the memories reside and hatred can also be in everyones minds afterall
But it is real????? Do it for yourself, reverse the audio and speed it up by 5x. I didn’t fake this, there’d be no reason to and I don’t wanna waste people’s time
If you look at other videos regarding this topic, you’ll see they probably do the same thing, so why would we ALL fake it???
@@star_strawits real. but i saw it on a other video it didnt actually sound like that , but it is nirvana reversed
Is it just me or is Hatred's theme for Nirvana better than the original nirvana soundtrack?
Ok so then its just nirvana but slowed 5 times???
Not being slowed 5 times, but slowed to 0.2x (1/5th speed) and reversed (you’re close tho I get what you mean)
@star_straw oh aight then