Eachine US65 VS QX65 - BRUSHED OR BRUSHLESS? - What’s Better?
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- Опубліковано 11 лис 2024
- US65 VS QX65. Brushled or Brushless indoors? Which is better? What to start with as a beginner and why. See examples of both quads. Honest review by Drone Camps RC.
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As a complete noob to fpv that has the QX65 I can say it's awesome for learning to fly indoors. I've crashed so much even dunked it in a pool in my maiden fpv outdoor flight. It's survived it all. Great value drone. 🤓
From Scotchtown NY.
I agree that for a newbie, like I was just 11 months ago, starting with the brushed is a good idea. Also, durability is super important when crashing lots. I flew an E011 LOS to start, then added a camera for FPV. Burned out my first motor after 9 months but the replacement was cheap and easy. I recently got a Mobula7 after flying my ET115 outside and both are good for me now. I'm sure I could not have handled the power at the beginning! I do have a friend with the QX65 and he often has to fix the camera after a crash because the canopy doesn't hold it so great. Lots of glue in there to try and make it stay. My other friend with a US65 is definitely frustrated with the frame that seems to be made of potato chips! He replaced it with the URUAV frame, but that canopy also has trouble holding the camera.
I have the Qx65 and still like it. It is quite precise as you said. I also threw on some high-end brushed motors and the thing is quite fast. I do with it had turtle mode but otherwise, I love it. I also have the snapper 7 and a custom 1S build and still gravitate to the QX65 when I want to hit some gaps inside. Thanks for the review, sir.
Thanks for this very best in depth review comparison!
Purchased the QX65, although I am kinda advanced in piloting..
But I prefer the durability and don't really see a must have in brushless for indoors. :-)
Makes two of us ✅🔥🏆
So a year has passed... How did it prove? If you care to share your experience, I would appreciate. :-)
The brushed version will cost less initially but by the time you have replaced the motor's a couple of times it just cost you more ! Just adjust your speed with less of a camera angle.
I have the two one and I am totally OK with you. Qx65 is very too bad quality.
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These micro quads are insane! I got a Mobula 7 and it's opened a whole new world of fpv to me around the house and yard. Great performance and tiny size that nobody will "freak out" about.
1S is plenty for the typical home. My Snapper 7 does just fine as a brushless, even has plenty for calm days outside. Some may wish to put a bit of expo though to calm it down if needed. I do still enjoy one of my brushed 65's though too for strictly inside flying. Thanks Justin, Jeff
Drone Camps RC, Good review! I had ordered a US65, but after seeing so many reviews of the frame breaking so easily I just canceled the order since it had not shipped yet. That cool frame artwork was a big reason I ordered it to begin with, too bad they put such a bad frame on it. I will stick with my Mobula7 and older brushed Whoops.
I've been flying my brushed whoop with 716 motors on the gnb 450mah HV batteries, and you might think the battery is too heavy, but to my surprise it actually flies better and has more power, not to mention flight times of 5+ mins! I've never had so much fun with my brushed whoop! try the 450 high volt batteries in your brushed whoop, just elastic band them onto the bottom if you need to and let 'er rip and tell me your mind isnt blown! 🤯
What KV 716 motors are you running?
@@JustinDDavis I'm not sure the kv, but it's the stock motors from the eachine e011
Hello from U.K. Couldn’t get my QX65 to arm, but didn’t know about Betaflight at the time. Had a play with BF now so inspired by your helpful review I’ll revisit it and hope to get it going!
Nice review. Been flying diy brushed E011's and 75mm with 820 motors here in rainy PDX. I just got my US65 and it already came with 2 sets of 4-blade props, crooked camera mount, and those struts under the battery were already broken. I ordered a UR65 replacement frame since I hear it's more flexible/durable. Even in stock tune, I'm lovin my first brushless whoop. I decided not to go for the 2S M7 or Trashcan because I'm primarily an indoor flyer in a small house. Besides the new frame, I need more batteries!
Battles of the brushed & brushless!!!! Snow in Cleveland!!!!!
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Sup Cleveland! Aww man snow... time to whoop dat house.
I had brushed whoops with 6mm, 7mm and 8.5mm motors. 6mm and 7mm motors burnt too quickly, but 8.5 mm motors are great. After started flying brushles whoops I don't think I will fly brushed ones again, my SE0603 brushless motors are doing great. Next is to have a 2S whoop with SE0802 motors ;)
Nice!! Thanks Justin - great info. Getting my son a QX65 for Christmas to introduce him to FPV.
Perfect choice for your son. He will love it!!!
Awesome thorough review as always! I've been rocking out with a an Acrobee V2 that I upgraded to recently from an upgraded Inductrix and I too found I'm getting more battery life from 2:18 to almost 4 depending on how aggressive your flying is.TINY WHOOPS ROCK!!
I have the UR65 but I upgraded motors to 19000kv motors, quad blades and a BetaFPV 65 frame. Flies good and is very durable.
Good videos like always. I ordered a QX65 last night. Thanks for the video.
Perfect woop for a beginner. thanks for your input. I was thinking about the US65 version, but might just get this for now.
My brushed whoop (Furibee F 36 with AIO FPV cam glued on top) was fun, but I was constantly soldering new motors onto the board. It finally got to where it wouldn't bind to the toy grade transmitter. My UR65 is light years better. My only issue is a smoked esc in the board that Banggood replaced for free. The flights are longer, it flies more stable, and you don't have to change motors after 25 flights.
Watch your channel all the time here in Iowa. I have a maxed and modded out E010S and E011. The T-hawk would be a excellent next step. Keep up the great work, we appreciate the honesty in your reviews.
Thanks for the review. This is perfect for newbie like me want to start up slow, learn to fly then move up to more speedy one. will order one tonight.
Your the boss flying that thing. Got 1 on route with skyzone goggles n t8sg v3 plus also couple of other whoops 2 that are 2 to 3s outdoor flyers. Cant wait to be able to fly like that. |ts well impressive
Would it be possible to show your stick movements please bro. Are you using yaw and pitch to make them really tight quick turns?
I've been flying brushed 716 motor whoops for close to a year now and while its plenty fun, I find myself not wanting to practice around the house regularly (even tho I need the practice) in fear of wearing/burning out the motors too quickly. As a result, I only fly when I go someplace cool, but then I'm both rusty in my piloting skills and still constantly wondering if my motors are performing at full potential. I think I'm ready to upgrade to brushless.
Very good and interesting comparison!
Other option would be to add an expo curve to the brushless version (in betaflight or in the transmitter) to soften the throttle at the hovering level making it more easy to fly. I am sure that any beginner will eventually want to change the brushed version once he gains experience and will end buying two (false economy). In my opinion the brushless version is better in many ways, not only the motors (charger, smart audio, durability of the motors) and when you buy the QX version with more batteries the price difference is not even that much.
I wonder if the QX65 could handle a 2S battery?
I didn't like flying indoors. All the walls seem much closer together when you've got fpv goggles on.
So I've given up flying indoors and put my QX flight controller into my Syma X5C.
I have both and totally agree with you. I have been flying the QX65 for about two months and I'm only on my second set of motors, third frame. It's an awesome indoor quad and not too bad outdoors on a calm day. Flies exceptionally well in ACRO too.
My qx65 fall down in each flight, like a failsafe. What can I do?
Check the Antenna or try to pair it again. Make sure that that you are in the right mode for frsky, flysky. Good luck.
//I have replaced the original Antenna cable with a longer thicker one..
Probably a range problem, some have deffective receivers/antennas
Bash up the soft yellow then fly colors.
Right now bashing a mini best from gear best but don't own googles (yet) should I wait for tiny hawk package to come out, whats best for whooping indoors. I want to get both will need controller and googles wanna fly as shown great job.
Thinking of buying this little QX65 quad, not been flying for a couple of years so looks like a good wee practice rig. Do you know if I would I be able to use the DSM2 model on my old Devo10 controller.?
I agree with everything you said. Great reviews as always bro!
Been flying the qx65 for a while and absolutely love it. Its time to upgrade to brushless though. Im from yukon territory, canada. The great white north and i WANT THAT EMAX!! LOL great vid man love your stuff
sweet video brother..... always helpful for us to make decisions on... lucky to have you in this hobby ;)
Muncie, IN here. Keep me in the air this winter! 😁
Awesome Vid! I just purchased both, Hopefully they arrive soon so i can play around with them. I live right next to the Airport so i dont get a chance to fly outside of my house. Now i might just be able to :) Thanks from Sydney Australia
Thanks for keeping it real. That tiny hawk looks fun.
Tay from NOLA... Hoping for the tiny hawk! I've been flying a built e010 for a while now and really look forward to the brushless power once my US65 arrives. Haven't flown in months and your review got me back in the saddle!
Michigan here, nice comparison!
-great review almost like 1st whoop brushed 2nd whoop brushless
keep up the great work Justin
How many brushed motors have you had to replace? How many brushless? For me, very few brushless have needed replacing (relative to actual flight time). Most of my brushed seem to last about 10-20 flights before they need replacing. I think I'll stick to my shiny new brushless setups. I'm sure that most of the precision difference can be compensated for with more expo.
I really love this video.
Kudos for giving the brushed guy some good vibes! They also have US stock on it which is important if you want to fly one soon. Does the standard package come with all the batteries and parts like yours did?
I believe it does yes.
According to Banggood, basic comes with 1 battery, standard comes with 3, and you need the advanced to get the 6 way charger, 5 batteries, and extra canopies.
great review man! cheers from Ontario Canada.
What about the motors? Which one lasts more?
Thanks for all you do... and this awesome giveaway. Hope to fly with you one day also.
Thanks for the reviews. Celina Ohio
I found brushed just didn't give me the throttle response I wanted. Also did not want to keep replacing brushed motors when they wear out.
Does the qx 65 have horizon mode?
May i know the music on qx65?
Great vid mate
That's a great compare. I also have both of rhem.
Justin how long should a 1s hv. battery last before you see it not taking a charge, say like it would when its new?
Justin, you sorta implied that the beta65 frame will work as a replacement for the US/UK65. Do you know that for sure? Will fc board standoffs lineup etc ? Thx.
Great vid! I was actually looking for a comparison between the two! Quick question from a newbie: FlySky or Frsky? Are they just equally good brands, or would you recommend one specifically? Also, could anyone suggest me a good combo of goggles + controller to flight it? Many thanks!
FlySky if only have $50.
FrSky QX7 if have $100. Much better option.
at night when there is a noise in the living room, would you go check with the cliche bat or send out this whoop?
What is the difference with the basic version and the standard version
Can you share UX65 PID configuration? Also did you experienced strange "auto rotation" on it? In Poland it is almost winter - will see if mine will survive it ;)
one more thing - it is worth to order spare motors for UX...
what i found "bad" on it - FC is mounted on rubber spacers, yet - plugging usb makes FC to off from back one - and that makes sensor to be misaligned - flying in horizon or angle mode is hard then.
I had to put heat shrinks on motor mounts - props were pulling motors out of them :)
After few crashes, camera is loose and can damage FC - i've put electric tape on bottom of camera - to prevent short circuit on FC
Camera angle - a bit too low - wires below it does not let it tilt more, also makes camera to tilt horizontally - thin double sided tape helps with that
pros - everything else - small, fits in pocket (once i've left it at home - i was thinking i have it in my pocket ;) ), betaflight - it is possible to put BF4 in it (some features are unavailable)
tough - only "camera" makes me .......... that's wy i have stylus with me ;) i can "mount" camera thru holes in canopy ;)
Like the review Justin
Can you do a comparison with the unicorn motors or something close to 25.000kv rating motors with the brushless plz and thankz again love all your quad videos.
how do you have eachine qx65 e betaflight
Great video!
Great flying
What do you think of the rctimer brushed version at 40 bucks ? cheers
Nice, love these little guys:)
Both are great ...
The main problem with UK/US65 or UR65 which are brushless whoops is battery sag :(
Instantly going down from 4.37 to 3.x in second ... None of my battery can survive more than a month LOL
My Tinyhawk is starting to actually puff some of my cheaper 1S batteries. The motors are hungry.
Checking in from Dover Delaware
I bought the qx 65 awhile back. I'm newb. Boy your right very little movement. It looks very complicated to go into beta flight. I don't have a decent fpv goggles. Just a cheap from mjx. Can't afford much. What do you suggest?
If you have a programmable transmitter you can tame control with expo or custom curves without using betaflight. I believe the eachine EV800 models are known as the best cheap goggle set.
I WOULD LOVE TO AVE THE TINY HAWK IN MY COLLECTION...THANKS FOR SHARING!!!
don't brushled moters go bad faster?
Not before you break it 😆👍🏻
I'm thinking about upgrading my eachine e013 with a beecore v1 and stronger motors to fly acro/air mode indoors so i don't loose to much of my skills during the dark months. But i noticed most reviewers fly stab mode indoors. Why is that? To difficult on a brushed setup?
Do it, beecore makes them fly way better. I always fly acro on mine and its not hard at all. My Uk65 is on its way, looks like I'll be getting a better frame though
The QX65 has a Beecore V2 in it. :)
I’d go with the qx65, the v2 fc has osd, and it comes ready to fly. For the price you can’t beat it.
@@dronecamps i don't think the v2 is worth the extra money bcause my cam doesn't support osd. Otherwise i would have to upgrade the cam aswell. And cam + fc + motors= same prica as a new qx65. Kinda looses the point of an upgrade.
Ur65.... love mine 👍
Guy's Be sure to glue the power cables to the frame or they will detach from the board if the battery comes lose.
Hey Justin, if you're up for modding the US65, try changing the connector. Instead of using the PH2.0 crimping, use this connector thats meant to be soldered directly to a board. Only you solder the cable directly to the pins. See this connector, ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1_CqlQFXXXXbOXVXXq6xXFXXXx/50sets-Mini-Micro-PH2-0-JST-2-0mm-Pitch-2Pin-Connector-with-1007-26AWG-100mm-150mm.jpg_640x640.jpg , I also upped the cable AWG in to 1 grade thicker. I get 3 noticable benefits out of this. 1) At 30 seconds mark, battery is still showing 3.7v 2) Better thrust, especially when battery is still 4.2v 3) Lesser heat on the battery connector, in fact no heat on mine at all.
Where do you get your stick knobs for your Tarantis qx7 I would love to get a set would love to win the tiny hawk
Bestem Aerial
@@dronecamps thank you love your videos never miss one and thanks for what you do for us in the hobby
Thanks FOD. I appreciate that.
great channel
Is it really the frame being less durable ??? I think it's more the pressure being on it, bc of the higher speed...
@DILLIGAF fpv thanks man, I'm on the snapper 7 at the moment, but wanna get a different frame for it
@DILLIGAF fpv yeah I know, that was my plan, getting the betawhoop frame, but I'm low on money, and I'll just wait until black Friday
Very hard to do the turns
I had that problem some days ago and i chose Trashcan and now i can tell you guys trashcan 2s is to powerfull indoor until you live maybe in a castle. Now im going to get us65 i think, But that eachine is creazy cheap... hmmmm
I been practicing my whooping . That yellow brushed whoop is really nice. You whoop very well was fun to watch cool
I need spare batteries where to buy
Greetings from Stockholm!
Nice drone... justin
DroneCamps: do you swapped the stock cam ? how come your footage looks soo good and other videos from this whoop look like crap, is it your DVR ? share your recipe for that nice videos please ;) , i wanna fly half as good as you!! nice sticks twerking !!! ;) Rolo.
I want one that can bind to my futaba
Brushed gets taken down by a stray hair. My us65 came with a bad camera, then they sent me another bad camera. I love my ur65 though.
Reno NV!!!
Put mockingbird on both and review the difference. It's a phenomenal difference in control and accuracy on all UX/UR/US/UK platforms.
I'm really liking my QX65 in the house, I only have a small house so brushless is a little too much for my space but the brushed version is perfect for smaller indoor spaces. Looks like 2 of your batteries are over charging? What is your experience with the single usb charger? I found mine undercharges my packs I'm not sure if it's just mine or them chargers in general. Thanks for the video :)
I like my brushless whoop, becourse it has turtlemode.
LMFAO!! I really shouldn't comment drunk. I take back my previous comment. I was drunk, and had my drones mixed up.
ur65 or us65?
Ur65 is better
Brushed or Brushless?
really disliked the QX65 and all the brushed whoops variants, burshless is just so much better
Instead of buying new frames all the time, how bout just spend money on a tougher drone in the first place. Oh well, my two cents.