27:16 Modern day analogy of explaining Karnas decision correlating with anti-national sponsored consideration for education is very vivid to understand the intricacies of Dharma. Follow God's plan and Victory will follow you...Yato dharma tato Jaya by Gandhari shows the dharmanishtha of her than selfish considerations and blind attachments!!
So many realisations got from this lecture and the analogies are perfect to understand. I used to think that if I'm desiring something and Krishna is fulfilling that means my desire is correct that's why Krishna is sanctioning it. But in reality the lord sitting in my heart is so merciful that he just sanctions whatever I desire and even after realising the potential consequences of it...we ask the Lord again and again to fulfill them. This point hit me the most.
Hare Krishna, Prabhu Thank you so much for enlightening us with Dharma knowledge All of us need to learn & understand our Vedic knowledge. Jai Srila Prabhupada🙏
Conclusion:- Decide yourself whose character to follow in your life whether Arjun or Karna. Krishna is always with us no matter we perform good or bad activities. But he also says if we perform wrong activities we will have to face consequences. Hare Krishna Jay Srila Prabhupada
36:15 What's our Janma Rahasya and the purpose of our existence ? Disobeying God and rejecting lords plan to favour material consideration related to body will open doors for vikarma
Brilliant, I learnt a lot. But I have few questions. 1. Did Karna get more reaction for not accepting Lord Krishna's advice? 2. In Ramayan, Vibishan surrendered to Lord Rama and helped to wage war against Ravana. But still is considered a traitor. On the contrary, Meghnad and Kumbhakaran argued to follow Ravana despite knowing he was wrong. What is the right perspective to understand this situation?
Hare Krishna prabhu If Karna is sugreeva, in his previous life, then sugreeva did devotional service to Lord Rama. Because of his devotional service why he was not liberated. Even in his life as a karna, did he get impersonal liberation? Please clarify Prabhu Your servant
Hare Krishna Prabhu, my humble obeisances. Thanks for the class. Some errors are there I think. Aren't Arjuna and Karna the sons of Indra and Surya and not their direct incarnations? Also as per the Valmiki Ramayana, Lord Rama Himself said He would kill Vali after Sugriva surrendered to Him. Vali also questioned Rama's actions and Rama gave him suitable replies which satisfied him. ChatGPT also says that according to Madhvacharya's Mahabharata Tatparya Nirnaya Karna is not the reincarnation of Surya. Those points seem to be mistaken, the rest I get about following God but those statements regarding Surya and Indra seem to be mistaken, Prabhu. Could you kindly check?
@@hkmpune ok thank you prabhu. Where can i get that book? But still i see that the Valmiki Ramayana says this about Sugriva, Lord Rama and Vali: करिष्यति स साहाय्यम् युवयोः भास्करात्मजः | सुग्रीवः सह च अस्माभिः सीतायाः परिमार्गणे || ४-४-२८ 28. bhaaskara aatmajaH = Sun god's, son; Sugreeva; saha asmaabhiH = along, with us - vanara forces; siithaayaaH = of Seetha's; parimaargaNe = searching; youvayoH kariSyati sa sahaayyam = to you two, he will render, help. "He that son of Sun, Sugreeva, will render help to you two, joining forces of our like Vanara-s in searching Seetha..." [4-4-28] Here it says Sugriva is the sun of the sun god, not his incarnation. Also later.. वालिनो मे महाभाग भय आर्तस्य अभयम् कुरु || ४-५-२३ कर्तुम् अर्हसि काकुत्स्थः भयम् मे न भवेद् यथा | 23b, 24a. mahaabhaaga = oh! highly fortunate one Rama; vaalinaH = from Vaali; bhaya aartasya = in fear, intimidated; me = to me; a bhayam kuru = no, fear [fearlessness] give me; kaakutsthaH = Rama; me yathaa bhayam na bhavet = to me, as to how, fear, will not, be there; [tathaa = that way]; kartum arhasi = to do so, apt of you. "Oh, highly fortunate Rama, affirm fearlessness to me from Vali by who I am highly intimidated, and as to how there will be fearlessness to me from him, it will be apt of you to accomplish that, that way... [4-5-23b, 24a] एवम् उक्तः तु तेजस्वी धर्मज्ञो धर्म वत्सलः ||४-५-२४ प्रति अभाषत काकुत्स्थः सुग्रीवम् प्रहसन् इव | 24b, 25a; evam = thus; uktaH tu = who is said so; tejasvii = resplendent one; dharmaj~naH = righteous one; dharma vatsalaH = virtue, patron; kaakutsthaH = Rama; sugriivam = to Sugreeva; prati abhaaSata = in turn, spoke [replied]; prahasan iva = laughing off, as though. When thus said, that resplendent and righteous one being the patron of virtue Rama replied Sugreeva, as though laughing off. [4-5-24b, 25a] उपकार फलम् मित्रम् विदितम् मे महाकपे ||४-५-२५ वालिनम् तम् वधिष्यामि तव भार्य अपहारिणम् | 25b, 26a. mahaa kapeH = oh, great monkey; mitram = a friend has; upakaara phalam = helpfulness, as resultant fruit; viditam me = known to, me; tava bhaarya apahaarinaam = your, wife's, adductor; tam vaalinam = that one, Vali; vadhishyaami = I intend to kill [eliminate.] "A friend is the resultant factor of helpfulness... that I know... oh, great monkey I intend eliminate that Vali, the abductor of your wife... [4-5-2b, 26a5] www.valmikiramayan.net/utf8/kish/sarga5/kishkindha_5_frame.htm (source) from here it seems that Sugriva just surrendered to Lord Rama and Lord Rama promised to kill Vali for his adharma. www.valmikiramayan.net/utf8/kish/sarga18/kishkindha_18_frame.htm Rama explains to Vali that he was adharmic to justify killing him. Just trying to understand and clear my mind about this. My humble obeisances prabhus
@@hkmpune Sure Prabhu, Email or WhatsApp? What do you suggest? I am in touch with devotees in Chennai and Bangalore also, I happened to watch this and had the doubt from my little experience of reading and hearing
very striking “ sometimes we are OK to disobey the Lord simply to make sure that material relationships are take care”
An excellent heavy wisdom 😍💫✨😍
27:16 Modern day analogy of explaining Karnas decision correlating with anti-national sponsored consideration for education is very vivid to understand the intricacies of Dharma. Follow God's plan and Victory will follow you...Yato dharma tato Jaya by Gandhari shows the dharmanishtha of her than selfish considerations and blind attachments!!
So many realisations got from this lecture and the analogies are perfect to understand.
I used to think that if I'm desiring something and Krishna is fulfilling that means my desire is correct that's why Krishna is sanctioning it. But in reality the lord sitting in my heart is so merciful that he just sanctions whatever I desire and even after realising the potential consequences of it...we ask the Lord again and again to fulfill them.
This point hit me the most.
Hare krishna prabhu ji❤
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 harekrishna
Hara Krishna, thank you so much for such a wonderful lecture ❤️❤❤.
Hare Krishna
Hare krishna Dandvat pranam Thank you
Hare Krishna, Prabhu
Thank you so much for enlightening us with Dharma knowledge
All of us need to learn & understand our Vedic knowledge.
Jai Srila Prabhupada🙏
40:52 Did God be partial only to Devotees ? Karna vs Arjuna's striking summary while decision making which is very relevant to us!!
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25:30 Simple definition of DHARMA
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Conclusion:- Decide yourself whose character to follow in your life whether Arjun or Karna. Krishna is always with us no matter we perform good or bad activities. But he also says if we perform wrong activities we will have to face consequences.
Hare Krishna Jay Srila Prabhupada
36:15 What's our Janma Rahasya and the purpose of our existence ? Disobeying God and rejecting lords plan to favour material consideration related to body will open doors for vikarma
Jai Ganesh , Hare KRISHNA
Thank you so much prabhuji i feel blessed to hear such a beautiful discourse 😊
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Nice lecture.
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Hare Krishna prabhu 🙏
Hare Krishna amazing realisations. 🙏🏼🌿
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Awesome lecture. Very relevant examples
Hare krishna prabhu 🙏nice lecture
Brilliant, I learnt a lot. But I have few questions.
1. Did Karna get more reaction for not accepting Lord Krishna's advice?
2. In Ramayan, Vibishan surrendered to Lord Rama and helped to wage war against Ravana. But still is considered a traitor. On the contrary, Meghnad and Kumbhakaran argued to follow Ravana despite knowing he was wrong. What is the right perspective to understand this situation?
Hare Krishna prabhu
If Karna is sugreeva, in his previous life, then sugreeva did devotional service to Lord Rama.
Because of his devotional service why he was not liberated. Even in his life as a karna, did he get impersonal liberation?
Please clarify Prabhu
Your servant
Mind blowing lecture 👏👏👏dandvat again and again phrabhuji 😍🤗hare krishna
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Hare Krishna Prabhu, my humble obeisances. Thanks for the class. Some errors are there I think. Aren't Arjuna and Karna the sons of Indra and Surya and not their direct incarnations? Also as per the Valmiki Ramayana, Lord Rama Himself said He would kill Vali after Sugriva surrendered to Him. Vali also questioned Rama's actions and Rama gave him suitable replies which satisfied him. ChatGPT also says that according to Madhvacharya's Mahabharata Tatparya Nirnaya Karna is not the reincarnation of Surya. Those points seem to be mistaken, the rest I get about following God but those statements regarding Surya and Indra seem to be mistaken, Prabhu. Could you kindly check?
@@hkmpune ok thank you prabhu. Where can i get that book? But still i see that the Valmiki Ramayana says this about Sugriva, Lord Rama and Vali:
करिष्यति स साहाय्यम् युवयोः भास्करात्मजः |
सुग्रीवः सह च अस्माभिः सीतायाः परिमार्गणे || ४-४-२८
28. bhaaskara aatmajaH = Sun god's, son; Sugreeva; saha asmaabhiH = along, with us - vanara forces; siithaayaaH = of Seetha's; parimaargaNe = searching; youvayoH kariSyati sa sahaayyam = to you two, he will render, help.
"He that son of Sun, Sugreeva, will render help to you two, joining forces of our like Vanara-s in searching Seetha..." [4-4-28]
Here it says Sugriva is the sun of the sun god, not his incarnation. Also later..
वालिनो मे महाभाग भय आर्तस्य अभयम् कुरु || ४-५-२३
कर्तुम् अर्हसि काकुत्स्थः भयम् मे न भवेद् यथा |
23b, 24a. mahaabhaaga = oh! highly fortunate one Rama; vaalinaH = from Vaali; bhaya aartasya = in fear, intimidated; me = to me; a bhayam kuru = no, fear [fearlessness] give me; kaakutsthaH = Rama; me yathaa bhayam na bhavet = to me, as to how, fear, will not, be there; [tathaa = that way]; kartum arhasi = to do so, apt of you.
"Oh, highly fortunate Rama, affirm fearlessness to me from Vali by who I am highly intimidated, and as to how there will be fearlessness to me from him, it will be apt of you to accomplish that, that way... [4-5-23b, 24a]
एवम् उक्तः तु तेजस्वी धर्मज्ञो धर्म वत्सलः ||४-५-२४
प्रति अभाषत काकुत्स्थः सुग्रीवम् प्रहसन् इव |
24b, 25a; evam = thus; uktaH tu = who is said so; tejasvii = resplendent one; dharmaj~naH = righteous one; dharma vatsalaH = virtue, patron; kaakutsthaH = Rama; sugriivam = to Sugreeva; prati abhaaSata = in turn, spoke [replied]; prahasan iva = laughing off, as though.
When thus said, that resplendent and righteous one being the patron of virtue Rama replied Sugreeva, as though laughing off. [4-5-24b, 25a]
उपकार फलम् मित्रम् विदितम् मे महाकपे ||४-५-२५
वालिनम् तम् वधिष्यामि तव भार्य अपहारिणम् |
25b, 26a. mahaa kapeH = oh, great monkey; mitram = a friend has; upakaara phalam = helpfulness, as resultant fruit; viditam me = known to, me; tava bhaarya apahaarinaam = your, wife's, adductor; tam vaalinam = that one, Vali; vadhishyaami = I intend to kill [eliminate.]
"A friend is the resultant factor of helpfulness... that I know... oh, great monkey I intend eliminate that Vali, the abductor of your wife... [4-5-2b, 26a5]
www.valmikiramayan.net/utf8/kish/sarga5/kishkindha_5_frame.htm (source)
from here it seems that Sugriva just surrendered to Lord Rama and Lord Rama promised to kill Vali for his adharma.
www.valmikiramayan.net/utf8/kish/sarga18/kishkindha_18_frame.htm
Rama explains to Vali that he was adharmic to justify killing him. Just trying to understand and clear my mind about this. My humble obeisances prabhus
@@hkmpune Sure Prabhu, Email or WhatsApp? What do you suggest? I am in touch with devotees in Chennai and Bangalore also, I happened to watch this and had the doubt from my little experience of reading and hearing
Hare Krishna