She embodies everything South African she didn't have her parents flags on her socials she embodies everything South African so ur comparison is bull this girl obviously loves her Nigerian and Mozambican roots and rightly so because she is that so why impose herself on a culture that isn't hers??!
South Africa is not a country for a specific people. South Africa is not a tribal country. In fact South Africa is a region, that is, South of Africa, named by white people. If you are a Zulu then you are from Kzn, you are not from Limpopo or North West and you are not the same people as the people of these provinces. What would make you as a Zulu or as a Sutho be the same people as Pedi or Tswana people and be diferent to Shona, Ndebele, Shangaan or Kalanga?? All these people are different to one another. Each one of them is a specific tribe, it is a unique, none is the same as the other. These borders where put by the colonialists to conquer you , devide to better and easily conquer and then rule. None of the tribes created these borders. And why are you so obssessed with the colonial past to the point of discriminating and humiliating other blacks????????? If this is the logic then bring back the apartheid system. Your issue is that SA is more developed than other African countries and this being the reason why people come here, so what? Did you develop SA??? It was developed by white people, and white people are not xenophobic toward others. They may be racists but not xenophobic. Some say that SA can not carry the whole Africa. That is nonsense. The African continent has 1.2 billion people. The population of SA is 65 million including foreigners. Are the remaining 1.13 billion African people living in SA? They are in their own countries. They could come to SA if their wanted to. All they need is a passport. Some African countries need visa but many do not need visa to come to SA. And why is all Africa not in SA?. This is a monsense hatred, self-hate because you are lazy and incompetent and then you get jealous. The bottom line is every country in the world has a foreign population. You go to Mozambique, Angola, Congo, Malawi, Nigeria, Namibia, Ghana, Ivory coast, Kenya, etc you will see plenty foreigners there and there is no issues. Why should it be a problem in SA??? Why??? Selfish people, with mentality of entitlements
There are many blacks who are even born outside of South Africa whom we consider South African since they assimilated with us and adopted one of our cultures. The problem with her is that she just stayed in our location and never assimilated and does not know any of our languages which is considered a rejection of South African cultures. That is why it is hard for South Africans to accept her. This is also why you never hear South Africans claim Elon Musk but will claim Charlize Theron because one rejects us but the other embraces us. It is like this whether you are black or white. Mxolisi Kaunda was the mayor of Durban and he got that because he embraced our culture even though he clearly has a Zambian heritage. If you are going to identify as a Nigerian in South Africa and never adopt one of the cultures you are going to have a big problem and that is why black foreigners are having a problem in South Africa, they fail to assimilate and that is seen as arrogant and people will reject you because of your perceived rejection of them. Please, I suggest you take this advice into consideration when raising your children among us as South Africans. Even when a fellow South African moves into an area that is largely dominated by another tribe if he thinks he will not assimilate into the tribe he just moved into, he will have big problems, South Africans don't discriminate in that regard.
I like your explanation and understand your point of view, however I don’t think we know if she can speak our languages or not because she is always speaking English, unless I missing something here because I can’t watch the tv show, I’m saying this because I’ve been accused of being a non South African due to the way I always speak English and that is because I reside in the west that’s the language out here. But people who’ve never heard me speak out language will assume I can’t. Maybe she can speak our languages as well
@@Thetalkcentralbyphindy I think you are right about the language part. I think her parents could have made things easier for her if they had given her South African names. But I do understand them giving her those names in order for her to know her heritage and identity, unfortunately it might be a problem if she wants to be a representation of black South Africa. However, for me it doesn't matter as long as she has citizenship I consider her South African, but unfortunately the assimilation thing is very strong in this country, they immediately pick you up if you haven't done it because the mannerisms will tell on you. My own mother had to assimilate because she married into the Zulu culture while she is Xhosa. At this point no Zulu can ever guess she is Xhosa because she completely assimilated. One of my car mechanics is from Burundi, I could pick up that Zulu might not be his first language but I couldn't tell that he was not South African until he told me himself. Him and his wife are leaving comfortably among Zulus and all the time I was with him he was speaking in Zulu to his son who has a Zulu name. I tell you that his children who are all born here will never have problems like Chidimma has had from South Africans.
Hey sis I hear you and I understand the problems “SOME” Nigerians are contributing to, but the reality is that we can’t blame every Nigerian for the crimes committed by a few. I also think most South Africans don’t how immigration works, you can become a South African permanent resident by applying through different streams that the South African government has, examples: through business investments, life partner,work,refugee and volunteer. So to say that both parents aren’t South African that doesn’t matter if they got their citizenship through these streams
@@ThetalkcentralbyphindyNigerians don't need to do that, they must improve their country's socio-economic conditions. If they are unable to improve their country, what would they do to our country. They must come to South Africa as tourists and go back to their country.
There's no need to argue about this issue if you claim to be african, you will know that you are what your father is.no matter where you are in the world.
You think slow Bruh. A citizenship is either by birth or by claims” but you worship the European to be a citizen, but an African is not. You are very slow. South African should stop this hates on other Africans, It started to Affect your fellow South Africans in Diaspora.
@@phumlaBAC yep Africans knows very well that our origin is not written anywhere but in our hearts, when things don't go well, we know where to go,you can't be a goat and mix yourself with dogs,it will be easier for goats to spot you cause you wouldn't eat what they eat and you won't cry the same way they do,we all know that when you are alone at night that's where you speak with who you are and in my life I don't think I can claim what's not mine cause it will be heavy to carry.
You are whatever your father is, this thing of just making babies with the whole world and expecting us to embrace them is nonsense, why cant they be nigerian like their fathers?
If you are not Xenophobic then accept Chidimma as a South African then bru. 🇿🇦 Don't also push this narrative of African people are not welcome in South Ahhh. Relax. She's fire 🔥
@@sambanelly4219 u should refrain from using your nuts to think young bull...this is a country we're talking about not ur grandmother's house, okay? okay
South Africa is not a country for a specific people. South Africa is not a tribal country. In fact South Africa is a region, that is, South of Africa, named by white people. If you are a Zulu then you are from Kzn, you are not from Limpopo or North West and you are not the same people as the people of these provinces. What would make you as a Zulu or as a Sutho be the same people as Pedi or Tswana people and be diferent to Shona, Ndebele, Shangaan or Kalanga?? All these people are different to one another. Each one of them is a specific tribe, it is a unique, none is the same as the other. These borders where put by the colonialists to conquer you , devide to better and easily conquer and then rule. None of the tribes created these borders. And why are you so obssessed with the colonial past to the point of discriminating and humiliating other blacks????????? If this is the logic then bring back the apartheid system. Your issue is that SA is more developed than other African countries and this being the reason why people come here, so what? Did you develop SA??? It was developed by white people, and white people are not xenophobic toward others. They may be racists but not xenophobic. Some say that SA can not carry the whole Africa. That is nonsense. The African continent has 1.2 billion people. The population of SA is 65 million including foreigners. Are the remaining 1.13 billion African people living in SA? They are in their own countries. They could come to SA if their wanted to. All they need is a passport. Some African countries need visa but many do not need visa to come to SA. And why is all Africa not in SA?. This is a monsense hatred, self-hate because you are lazy and incompetent and then you get jealous. The bottom line is every country in the world has a foreign population. You go to Mozambique, Angola, Congo, Malawi, Nigeria, Namibia, Ghana, Ivory coast, Kenya, etc you will see plenty foreigners there and there is no issues. Why should it be a problem in SA??? Why??? Selfish people, with mentality of entitlements
She’s really annoying to be honest and too emotional. She’s comparing her to European descendants and quite frankly it’s not the same . White people have been here five generations what does she expect us to do . The girl is first generation Nigerian to be born here . And has not learn anything thing about the languages or any ethnicity she has no loyalty to anyone even her profile showed to flags the Nigerian 🇳🇬 flag and Mozambique 🇲🇿 flag . Where is her patriotism .
But the law of citizens don't say if you are born in south Africa you are South African besides you can't apply law of other countries here in south Africa and some countries you come a citizens through the father not mother at least in south Africa Thy allow you if one parent is South African I don't think if I'm born in kzn I'm automatically be Zulu even my parents are bapedi
It’s crazy because the same law your referring to allows white peoples whose parents are both Dutch to become full citizens neh, this so called law only applies to African people who look just like you and me right? 😏😏 y’all are way too slow for this discussion
@@ThetalkcentralbyphindyAlmost every African nation was colonised by Europeans they formed the boundaries right ? We can debate that the land was stolen some other time. So the fact that u know u are South African its the system every country accepted and I am pretty sure there are White Nigerians if not there were there before but left due reversal reasons, In SA I am sure u know White people didn’t leave they have established themselves helping to build the country centuries back and am sure 90% of white people in SA trace their roots here and never left the country through out the formation of RSA so do want them to be casted out as South Africans? Chichi off cause she was born in SA through and Nigerian and Mozambican whom has no roots in SA but through neutralisation. SA has 11 languages with their own heritage and are recognised in the constitution, now thats where the law that will all submit to comes to place, which I think u should blame not South Africans, we don’t have Nigerian nor Mozambican heritage under our laws. She praises her Nigerian and Mozambican heritage but enjoys the South African side as she was nurtured with and go see in some of her socials posting Nigerian and Mozambican flags but there was no South African flag. I bet u if she can go represents SA in miss universe or world u will see Nigerian and Mozambican Flags flying all over and where will that put South Africans in that space? You don’t see whites and Asian contests having their country of origin flags in their socials and I bet u again if u can ask them to put flags on the socials u will only see South African flag not Chinese or Indian nor Dutch flags.
Before I say anything, I just want to applaud you ma'am for your courage, support and understanding to speak on this issue. It is extremely refreshing hearing a South African take this approach. Most people in this comment section are quite myopic in their thinking, inflictive with self-hate and are misinformed. And unfortunately, they are misinforming fickle minded South Africans who are contagious with this level of hate. And I understand, because it's clear that Mzansi is still struggling to find their identity as a nation, particularly within Africa. 1. People saying that she lied about being from Soweto or CPT... you do know that migration is a thing right? She could have resided and be born in Soweto and move at a later stage with her family to CPT. You do know that right? So saying she's lying about coming from Soweto is quite stupid. 2. Her Mother has Mozambiquan decents but was naturalized and has obtained her South African ID after years of following protocol. Therefore, with her mom being South African, and her being born here... SHE IS SOUTHAFRICAN. 3. By South African laws, to obtain ID or permanent residence status, you must have at least one of your parents being ID holders or you must be married to a South African. Additionally, you must be on a work visa for at least 5 years before applying for permanent residence. 4. People subtly pushing the narrative that the Father may be an illegal drug dealer (without any evidence to that) because he's from Nigeria is quite disgusting of you guys and I'm not surprised. Most South Africans have developed these discriminative and hateful stereotypes over the years and is symbolic of who you guys are and your inferiority complex towards Nigerians. 5. As a case in point, Trevah Noah is South African right? But his father is from Switzerland and his mom South African. There's a chineese South African who was eliminated out of the top 20 right? So why is there no uproar against her being that her identity and names are foreign to "South African names"?? She's is literally CHINEESE. You people go all around claiming Elon Musk, Doja Cat, Charlie Stheron and etc. People who don't even recognize you guys as a nation, pitiful. Even Dricus Du Plessis who South Africans claim, but yet has family and an ancestry in France 🇫🇷 6. When it comes to issues of immigration, you guys complain that y'all are not xenophobic and you are only concerned about illegal foreign nationals right? Lol Now, you have a lady who is not illegal, is South African and here you are complaining about her history of legality. 😂 You can never win with you people. So are you saying you guys know more or better than the South African Pageantry as a whole or better than their law officials who do background checks on all contestants? 7. Lol South Africa is not a rainbow nation, and I think even you guys are starting to accept and come to terms with the inner hate and anger you show towards your fellow Africans but not Europeans. Let's all just call a spade a spade. Some South Africans are hateful, quite narrow in their thinking and don't want to do the bare minimum of learning, growing and developing. 8. Last but not least, most of you in this comment section should do your best in researching, educating yourselves and travelling a lot more so that you can be exposed to modern day thinking and development. 9. Nkulunkulu (God) can be so funny sometimes 😂 he knows how divisive and discriminative South Africans are towards Africans and decided to place someone of mixed ethnicities in such a highly recognizable position? Kuzolunga! South Africans, you will be okay in the end, whether she wins or not so don't worry. If anything, I'm glad this has forced y'all to have a new discussion on this issue but in a different light. Thank you once more mamzo for your discourse on this matter. Kind regards. A Proud African Man
@@SirEbube wow you couldn’t have explained this better, thank you for sharing this hopefully many would read to the end and hopefully receive some insight into how immigration works in South Africa. Thank you 🙏🏽 ❤️
Her social media platforms affirms that she identifies as both Mozambican and Nigerian both by descent and ethnicity and as such is not really fond of the country she was born in. Not to be narrow at all my brother but her culture is what is foreign to most South Africans and the fact that she doesnt even try to embrace the south African flags just adds salt to the already deep wounds that Nigerian illegal migrants have inflicted on the south african population by their mammoth participation in drug trade, human trafficking and sex trafficking. She is legally south African but doesn't carry the south african cultural baggage and hence is not the best person to represent south african women.
Well sisi we welcome the American people because they introduce themselves to us and they come here with good intentions,you are in America I hope you are documented and observe their laws so what is the difference with South Africa and this people they don’t associate with South Africans.
No amount of videos & twisted information can change our minds. We cannot have someone who's going to fly a Nigerian & Mozambiquen flag wearing our crown. Never
The only thing I have with her is she seems like she doesn’t like South Africa look at her page she flying Nigerian and Mozambican flags and no South African flag and she claims represent South Africa then it begs the question where’s her allegiance to which country because if she align herself with parents countries that’s good than she must not call herself South African and represent South Africa.
We love our brothers and sisters across the diaspora... Please Don't Duplicitous. . Please don't speak for us or be disingenuous...I hope don't think you are south african... your closed minded choices should not shut down the valid concerns where Nigerians are chased away from ghana, Kenya and even senegal and many other African countries 😳... There's nothing afrophobic about the observations people have made about the citizenship being bought in this country it's happening. Since my sister you are close to them...tell them to stop being afro-destructive in destroying other Africans by selling DRUGS AND disrespectful to our women by exploiting their poverty by prostitution them... Don't be selective if you truly represent the truth!!!
It's funny how u spew misinformation so eloquently, but anyways do u bby. There's a very great relationship between SAns, Ghanaians, Namibians, Botswana people etc ... Study the relationship or lack thereof between SAn and Nigerians and speak on it
I thiink that facts are not realy exoposed in this issue..the fact is there is a general hate for black South Africans by Nigerians and that infuriates most South Africans tiktok is filled with them spewing ignorance and disdain for black south africans. So to jave their seed representing our doughters?? How do you expect us to feel nobody cared about beuty pagent for some time but the fact there is a Nigerian there makes us care and pay attention
She's not pround to be South African. She's hold Nigerian flag and Mozambique flag on her social media platform. She'll not representing south Africans (birth-right country). She goes with Papa Mom nationality.
Your girl is not SAcan guys please make peace with it Not even by naturalization Can dhe be s thread in Mozambique or Nigeria Which 12 SA tribes is she representing?
@Thetalkcentralbyphindy, unfortunately, not according to DOHA. They explained that on Newzroom Afrika. So this whole debate will continue until the Miss South Africa organization lets her go. DOHA explained what makes you South Africa, and in her case, she's not.
White people and Indians in South Africa hardly raise british flag for example 😂😂😂 may Orania but those are south africans too!!…this one os nigerian makahambe😂😂
What is wrong with you? There are present. Zulu girls and Tswana girls. She is not the only one there. The problem is you lot want to single her out and make her a hot topic issue for no reason, simply because she is of Nigerian and Mozambican origin and make her isolated in her own country of birth. She didn't come her yesterday. She was born and raised in South Africa and she still lives here and represents this beautiful nation and speaks Zulu and Xhosa. If you can accept non African people to represent South Africa proudly, then you can do the same with Chidimma. You people need to heal. She didn't do anything wrong bathong.
@@Qotha So what about Vanessa Carreira? Natasha Joubert and a lot of the White people that entered? Does that include them or because they are white they get the privilege to be South Africans? Her Maternal Grandmother is Zulu. Chidimma is South African Finish and Klaar. Imagine if that was your daughter?
We have 9 black indigenous tribes and languages in sa why we should let a mozambican and Nigerian descent whom because is born her then he must be miss sa what is sa about where are the twanas zulus Xhosas tsongas ndebeles sothos my sister I am sorry she is born her she is south african citizen but not enough represent sa
@@Thetalkcentralbyphindywhich of the 9 black tribes she's conscripting to? The point is in 2024 we can't add Igbu to be our national symbol othetwise if we do that we lose our South African identity therefore Nigeria 2.0? No, if I move to Germany now I will be fullly converted to German hence I can't impose myself into Germans to accept me as Ngunu therefore forcing them to merge my Ngunism in their diversity.
If one of her parent was south african then she is south african . But if she was born in south africa by parents who are not south african , she is not south african . No hate there.
@@Thetalkcentralbyphindyplease dont talk about dutch people because truth be told myb 5 generations born here,how many generation she has here in SA if you recall stop hiding behind white people to make excuses of mistake of corruption.You know very well that people sold our documents which i cannot do in Nigeria
0:10 Who is the real Makoti in this relationship, if your husband is the one wearing panties then ill understand that you paid lobolo to his family. the children belong to the tribe of the husband which is the culture across the continent. Your children are Nigerian that's where they belong whether you like it or not, you're also Nigerian since you are married into that family.
@@Thetalkcentralbyphindy Then why are you fighting so hard for your Nigerian kids to be South Africans? why you begging us to like Nigerians? if South Africans don't like Nigerians and you happen to be the few who like them then good for you but don't force it on the rest of us, with thinks they have done in this country, why should any reasonable South African like them? if black Americans are liked in SA and not Nigerians be it, people have their own reasons move on
As citizen of this country by blood, am really afraid of the future of it, but what I see is just our children and great great children, will never have a place they call their own because South Africa has became something else, we can't defend it, this is a free country anyone can come and claim it, and we are not suppose to say anything, because is a free country for everyone,
Being SAn🇿🇦does not give you the right to dismiss,ridicule & vilify SAns🇿🇦 who do not agree with you,we SAns🇿🇦 are exercising our urgency,and its not based on your love life, don't make your choices to masquerade as our principles, convictions, laws,she does not resonate with us SAns🇿🇦period
She’s more South African that you will ever be, she’s clearly well mannered and has Ubuntu that a lot of you haters combined, being South African or having a South African ID doesn’t give you a ticket to success or wealth. You worship white people and discard Africans . The level of self hate you have against yourself is astounding
@@Thetalkcentralbyphindywe are not saying she's not manner she doesn't resonate to our history basically she's South African by documents just let her represent nigeria stop talking what you don't understand nothing ladythis is our country shup the fck up.
@@ThetalkcentralbyphindySouth Africa is our country stop forcing yourselves to other people she's has nigerians father and Mozambique mother both of them they're economic illegal economic migrants she not South African klaar.
But white resonate with you right, some of you people are inhumane. When white came to take over your Land African countrys stood by you, but it is very disheartening how you accept these whites as citizens and wouldn't accept blacks
What people don't realize it that people can literally pay their way into being South African. So yeah she is a South African. South Africa is a nationality and it's part of our culture nothing more nothing less.
I don't like the fact that you say women married to Nigerians are quiet. We are not quiet but we can't stop people from hating on her but we do send her messages of support.
Firstly I'm glad you highlighted that it is not ANTI-BLACKNESS OR XENOPHOBIA since Black Americans are welcomed warmly in SA. The Truth is: You say it's hard leaving your country kodwa Nigerians find it so easy since they do so much😭 but I think it's the same reason Nigerians' passport is one the weakest and the Black Americans' passport is one of the strongest is what influences the difference in reception. People who don't need to leave their countries(Americans) have a better image then and seen less of a national threat than people who desperately left their and will do anything to survive in another country(Nigerians) It's unfortunate but makes sense. Look at people from Botswana, leave out the cultural relatability but BW is a reasonably prosperous nation and are not known to cause no trouble as immigrants when they are Gauteng culture of a melting pot is transported across the broader South Africa through Education,Media,Television,Radio etc South Africans know who they are, they understand that we have 11 official languages, that we have Black(Zulu,Xhosa,Tswana,Sotho,Ndebele,Venda,Pedi,Swati,Tsonga),White, Indian & Coloured South Africans, we literally learn this as kids in school The Miss SA issue not discussed properly tho and it;s not solely about this but about a Representation of Black SA girls
Wow, your assumptions are wow! Believe me, when Black Americans and any Americans or Europeans or Asians etc. live their place of birth for any African country, including South Africa, it's because they need to. They are running from stress and being overworked only for all their money to go to the high cost of living 😢😢😢. Those who came have managed to squeeze some money by working triple shifts or take out loans and are running to African countries because they think our costs of living is so......cheap. they live with these delusions and many of them end up running back to their homes and face the very hard life they have there. Why? Because they learn no where is a bed of roses and it is better to stay where you are familiar with. Anyways, this love is purely out of fantasies about who they think have the most $$$$$$$$$$. The truth will come out in shocking ways. Africans, hold your heads up through these storms for they all shall pass. We can get there quicker if we do away with self hate. Outsiders come close to you for the betterment of themselves and not for you. Don't be delusional. Love begins at home. Charity begins at home.
ENVY! Nigerians are the most successful blacks anywhere in the world and we don't have hate in us towards other black folks. we have achieved this much with all the challenges our country presented... wait until we get our leadership right very soon , then we will shock the world and we will carry all our black brothers and sisters along!
here is the Chidimma issue: first the parents met in Britain before 2010 and in 2010 in South Africa. If she was born out of wedlock then clearly she does not qualify, If she was born from marriage, then she will be 14 years at the most. Secondly, any person born from a foreign national in Mzansi does qualify as a citizen. Department of Home Affairs will issue a registration of birth which must be taken to the relevant Embassy for that child to be registered as a citizen of that country (Nigeria). Thirdly, the father came to South Africa on a visitor's VISA and did not and does not qualify as a naturalized citizen . Conclusion is therefore that Chidimma is a foreign national who is a resident of Mzansi and not a citizen of this country. Disqualify her.
South Africa is multiracial and it is good the way it is. I do not know why people like you want to divide South Africa for your own gains? you cannot compare someone who has been in South Africa for generations and someone with foreign parents regardless of being African, another issue she even put foreign flags and yet she wants represent South Africa what is this nonsense?. South Africa is for South Africans not Foreigners (regardless of being African, Asian, Europeans and etc).
Divide who ? Lol please don’t make me laugh Venda’s and shangani’s are still outcasted by the rest of the country because everyone think’s they’re not good enough. The country has good people who don’t care 🤷♀️ about foreigners nationals and the ones that have still yet to see Cape Town with their own two eyes 👀 , but cannot afford to due to failed government that makes them believe that their jobs are taken by foreigners nationals. Instead of blaming them for looting and selling the country 🤣😂🤣😂
@@Thetalkcentralbyphindyyou are laughing at yourself 😂😂😂 can't you see all that wrote none of it is true 😂😂😂 you are just trying to save your face South Africa is for South Africans not for foreigners whether you like it or not.
@LLEntertainment I have never seen someone blinded by emotions like this lady @thetalkcentralphindy she is even spreading misinformation about South African tribes, I now believe the muti from ...... is too strong for her to resist 🤣😂.
My sister I think you don't have enough information, this thing started long time ago is not a SAcn thing. It happened in Ghana and Nigeria when they chase other Africans to go back to their home. I have a friend who works in Ghana and it's been more than 12yrs and the experience was not good he told me they were given a permit to drink in a specific area and they have to report even when they go to the mall so that they will send them their own transport to pick them,on the way the police will be waiting for them to request a money to allow them to pass. He further said the everywhere they go they were paying money even to the person who serves alcohol.
I hear you Lucas but in this regard we are talking about our children who are now caught in this Afro phobic state of South Africa, where are they supposed to go? The corruption your friend experienced in #Ghana is quite common in South Africa, police also stop cars to ask for money and extort money from foreigners nationals who have documents just for the sake of being in South Africa
the unescapable realty that you are fully aware of is that Nigerian children have no future in South Africa so the strategies of mobilizing Nigerian wives is a futile exercise.
@@Thetalkcentralbyphindy you see clearly the political direction that is why you are mobilizing Nigerian wives. Hate to break it to you there are no wives of Nigeria that can change the political discourse. No Nigeria children will inherit what we have build solely.
Here is My perspective as a Black American. When we come to South Africa, we come in love and really wanting to learn the culture and finding a sense of our African identity. We don’t do hustling, sex trafficking, drugs. Scams, etc. unfortunately Nigerians have a really bad reputation for doing what i previously stated. We don’t live or hangout in all black American enclaves or neighborhoods in South Africa, we live with the people, Nigerians don’t do that, you have all Nigerian Enclaves in Joburg and that pisses people off, you have to understand why South African have a problem with Nigerians.
@@mphosa995 how do you know? I done my DNA test and it’s west African and East. Stop with the nonsense and xenophobic comments. When you didn’t have democracy, it was us Black Americans who gave the ANC money and support its leaders, we boycotted the NP and made sure American companies leave South Africa when apartheid ruled the nation. We welcomed Nelson and Winnie Mandela to Harlem with big crowds of love. Stop talking ungrateful nonsense.
@@mphosa995 no the culture we had to create to survive because our African brothers conspired with the white man to enslave us. Your culture or tribe is?
@@mphosa995don't come here spew nonsense 😮 we love black Americans here. And we also love those people from West or east Afrika so show some respect boy
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Thanks God bless u for ur support leave those animals that is making noise to continue to waste there energy as chidimma is warming up to archive her goal
We are tired of this topic and now let me be open to you… until Nigeria learn to respect South Africa 🇿🇦 this war will never end, chidima is not a problem here but the problem is because she has a Nigeria genes so we want nothing to do with Nigeria 🇳🇬… You are still paying for what Burna Boy said about our late AKA
I think the hangover of apartheid on the psyche of the South African is heavy. If Africans married Europeans are taken or accepted as Europeans one is taken aback at the backwardness of black south Africans in this regard. They say that they are losing their identity. Stupid thought. Nigerians don't do tha because we are more civilised in Nigeria.
@@adekunleadesoye7882 you’re right, apartheid is still very much alive in the hearts of our people it’s very unfortunate, just like a child that has been abused for years it’s always hard to fully heal from these type of trauma. I think more conversations like this need to be held in order to heal and educate people so that the hate of our own people can stop
I think in this case of Chidimma, her father came to South Africa in 2010 as he said already Chidimma was born in Nigeria from a different lady who's not South African and he married the South African or that Mozambiquen lady that he claims and have kids. Then they decided to bring Chidimma to South Africa at the age of about 9yrs to grow up there and fordge the documents for Chidimma via corruption to fulfill her dream. Maybe if the mother can come forward or the relatives of her and clarify this matter it can cerstify every who have the question about this.
My son is Canadian even though I’m South African and his dad Nigerian, your nationality comes from the country you are born to, why is it ok for the children of our oppressors to be South African because they’re born in our soil but it’s wrong for our own African people children to be South African if they’re born on our soil ? seems unfair and very wrong
@@Thetalkcentralbyphindysister yours is deferent you are a South African automatical your child is South African,but here this girl's parents are not South African somebody said its actually her stepmother which is South South African. So here is question how did his parents obtain citizenship till now theres foriegn lady who can't get smart ID she hasn't qaulify for it,but her late husband is South African. Dont look at this from your prospective only because this is pure corruption from home-affairs,i don't want look like a bad person but our people specifically females have been selling our citizenship just for small money are been exposed for wanting to have divorce.Dont forget foreigners who have been fraudulently using South African documents doing all this people end-up in serious things,till today they still fighting for their identity because western African person using it working with home-affairs workers.Im married to a foreigner still my wife hasn't got her PR but the west African people got theirs fast because of corruption we be dealing today we be called xenophobic
@@ThetalkcentralbyphindyYou should blame the law not South Africans the law here does not say if a child is born in SA through a foreign father let’s use tht coz that’s what defines ur nationality should be automatically become South African and we all know why the law does not allow tht.
But this debate is about cultural representation - surely someone who wants to represent the country should embodies the spirit of the people - this girl identifies as a Nigerian - she has a Nigerian and a Mozambiquan flags on her Tik Tok account - obviously I don't agree with the toxic social media comments, but it is a valid discussion to have...
Is so sad how us Africans we look one another down,if she was in Canada or USA she was not going to have any problems,but I believe one day Africa we will be one .
Its ok , she represents you and your pals not most of us black south africans , you speak more of this country more than your country of origin. She doesn't carry the pride us as south africans if you get what I mean.
Don't lie, we have Zimbabweans & Mozambiqueans that we have embraced and work with. They don't arrogantly cause social problems for the country, and they are respectful. Chididima is proudly Nigerian, and celebrates with the Nigerian flag. Both her parents are foreigners, and the law says she's not South African. You can't use xenophobia or afrophobia to shut us up, we don't have a fear of working with foreigners. Her heart is Nigerian, you must encourage her to go and represent where her soul is
Great speech, but i think it would have been most appreciated if it was made in Nigeria towards Nigerians. Who till today, theyve failed and are still failing to fight for the girls that were abducted zillion years ago, and more are still abducted in Nigeria, sadly instead of their men fighting for them, they're vagabonding all over the world. Mostly are busy fighting SAns for exercising their rights on issues that are SAn and for SAns. Wena my sister, we understand inkinga yakho, udakwe yiwo shem. Cant say much especially you boSisi bethu. Unfortunately none of you will silence us, we fought for these rights. We have freedom of speech as well of activizm.
1. In African culture in South Africa, when you get married you go to your husband's home, hence you use your husband's surname. Awuhlali ebukhweni, ngo-Sibayeni na aba bakhwenyana bethu. 2. If a person is not married and having a child, it's different, the child belongs to her mother's side. That is african culture in South Africa. If the father wants the child, there is a process that is followed. 3. If the father's family does not acknowledge the child even if the parents are married, the mother's family takes care of the child and claim her/his as theirs. 4. With these instances, there is no half these, a child belongs to a certain family, depending on the circumstances.
We need an update about Chichi Adesina Miss SA... I heard home affairs has released some updates about the matter.. it's only fair after people were called names
She must take the crown and run with it to Nigeria. There is nothing that South Africans can be proud of even if she wins. She does not represent South Africanness. Period !
Her life style doesn't say that she is proudly Nigerian and Zimbabwen nothing south African about her she can win but as South Africans we will say we don't have a miss SA but a miss Nigerian because that's exactly what it is her blood is Nigerian
In 2023, Lydia Balogun was rejected by many Nigerians who said she doesn't represent & carry the "Nigerian identity, culture, & language. Then you didn't call Xenophobic
That is why they fail to support eff bcos jm is telling them the truth but bcos there lost that is why there seing jm as a traitor instead of praising him for opening there eyes to embrace there fellow Africans
We give black americans the same benefit of doubt that we once gave nigerians, till they took advantage of our hospitality. Secondly you are not south african, we can hear your accent...
We don’t know where you’re from but not from South Africa “ke wena wazi kakhulu angithi” 😂😂😂😂😂 and that just proves us right what mixture of languages is that 😂😂😂😂
I think, if someone tells you to go back where you come from, you shouldn't be worried by that, as long as you know that you are legal in that country, because the only department which knows that it is the Home Office who knows that you are legal in the country, but definitely not that person. Therefore, they just need to chill.The other thing i want to mention, is that, you mentioned something about, saying that, most of the Nigerian people who are in South Africa right now, are reluctant to interfere with Chi-Chi's and her parents issue, of which i think they are not reluctant at all. The only reason why they don't want to get involved, it is because, most of them, they are just like Chi-Chi's family, because they also are aware that they haven't got any correct documents or proper procedureral documents to be in South Africa, as it happens always with the Nigerians. As a results they are scared to death, wandering if what is going to happen to them if they happen to be found in nearly similar cases, as most of the Nigerians, do not have proper documents to stay in South Africa. Most of them get those documents through corruption, while they are happy to pay a lot of money just for them to stay in S.A. Therefore for them to stay silenc it is their only option, as they think it is the only best way for them to hide for the South African government or community. They are going to be found one of the days, if they don't put their citizenship qualifications documents in order, for them not to be sent where they come from.
I bet one thing, if She was from Zambia , Botswana, or Swaziland etc no one would notice but Nigerians have done something to South African maybe that where the problem is, so this whole thing need a review from both parties. What went wrong ? When? Why did it happen, and how can we fix it? The hate won't help us no matter who it is coming from. Our starting point needs to be on the rule of law. I personally believe it no1 reason we are where we are. Come on, Africa, let us upgrade the problems we entertain. We can't move forward if we continue to live like this. Administration of individual countries is still hard for our leaders. So by the time that administration has to be for Africa as a single country it can be much harder. Let us start, but controlling understanding. Amoungst us as communities then we can take on to more complex issues like living in harmony as different people with one Vision.
Miss south africa 2001 was vannesa carrieira.her was Portuguese and her mom angolan.but Vanessa was born in south africa.where was the noise?
@@BarnigoWilliams this 🙌🏾
IN 2001, we're here now. No more!! plus I have a soft spot for Angolans
She embodies everything South African she didn't have her parents flags on her socials she embodies everything South African so ur comparison is bull this girl obviously loves her Nigerian and Mozambican roots and rightly so because she is that so why impose herself on a culture that isn't hers??!
She will finish her race, the EFF is fully behind her, we are also supporting her so don't stress yourself she's in Good hands
We have children who have dad's who are Nigerian but you see you can't stop hate they will post on Twitter but physically they can't do anythig
Why you guys always complaining and at the same time wanting to belong in South Africa so bad ? You don't like South Africans too
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Welele. What are you asking?
Exactly, they must go back home and enjoy their country we don't mind but we're not gonna let them get away with fraud and corruption here
Our sisters sold us💔 but we can't watch South Africa losing it's identity.
Amen
Your sold yourself with nyaope
@@lizaortegadecordero7680 your brother came here with nyaope
South Africa is not a country for a specific people. South Africa is not a tribal country. In fact South Africa is a region, that is, South of Africa, named by white people. If you are a Zulu then you are from Kzn, you are not from Limpopo or North West and you are not the same people as the people of these provinces. What would make you as a Zulu or as a Sutho be the same people as Pedi or Tswana people and be diferent to Shona, Ndebele, Shangaan or Kalanga?? All these people are different to one another. Each one of them is a specific tribe, it is a unique, none is the same as the other. These borders where put by the colonialists to conquer you , devide to better and easily conquer and then rule. None of the tribes created these borders. And why are you so obssessed with the colonial past to the point of discriminating and humiliating other blacks????????? If this is the logic then bring back the apartheid system. Your issue is that SA is more developed than other African countries and this being the reason why people come here, so what? Did you develop SA??? It was developed by white people, and white people are not xenophobic toward others. They may be racists but not xenophobic. Some say that SA can not carry the whole Africa. That is nonsense. The African continent has 1.2 billion people. The population of SA is 65 million including foreigners. Are the remaining 1.13 billion African people living in SA? They are in their own countries. They could come to SA if their wanted to. All they need is a passport. Some African countries need visa but many do not need visa to come to SA. And why is all Africa not in SA?. This is a monsense hatred, self-hate because you are lazy and incompetent and then you get jealous. The bottom line is every country in the world has a foreign population. You go to Mozambique, Angola, Congo, Malawi, Nigeria, Namibia, Ghana, Ivory coast, Kenya, etc you will see plenty foreigners there and there is no issues. Why should it be a problem in SA??? Why??? Selfish people, with mentality of entitlements
@@lizaortegadecordero7680the nyaope that you sell?
There are many blacks who are even born outside of South Africa whom we consider South African since they assimilated with us and adopted one of our cultures. The problem with her is that she just stayed in our location and never assimilated and does not know any of our languages which is considered a rejection of South African cultures. That is why it is hard for South Africans to accept her. This is also why you never hear South Africans claim Elon Musk but will claim Charlize Theron because one rejects us but the other embraces us. It is like this whether you are black or white. Mxolisi Kaunda was the mayor of Durban and he got that because he embraced our culture even though he clearly has a Zambian heritage.
If you are going to identify as a Nigerian in South Africa and never adopt one of the cultures you are going to have a big problem and that is why black foreigners are having a problem in South Africa, they fail to assimilate and that is seen as arrogant and people will reject you because of your perceived rejection of them.
Please, I suggest you take this advice into consideration when raising your children among us as South Africans. Even when a fellow South African moves into an area that is largely dominated by another tribe if he thinks he will not assimilate into the tribe he just moved into, he will have big problems, South Africans don't discriminate in that regard.
I like your explanation and understand your point of view, however I don’t think we know if she can speak our languages or not because she is always speaking English, unless I missing something here because I can’t watch the tv show, I’m saying this because I’ve been accused of being a non South African due to the way I always speak English and that is because I reside in the west that’s the language out here. But people who’ve never heard me speak out language will assume I can’t. Maybe she can speak our languages as well
@@Thetalkcentralbyphindy I think you are right about the language part. I think her parents could have made things easier for her if they had given her South African names. But I do understand them giving her those names in order for her to know her heritage and identity, unfortunately it might be a problem if she wants to be a representation of black South Africa. However, for me it doesn't matter as long as she has citizenship I consider her South African, but unfortunately the assimilation thing is very strong in this country, they immediately pick you up if you haven't done it because the mannerisms will tell on you.
My own mother had to assimilate because she married into the Zulu culture while she is Xhosa. At this point no Zulu can ever guess she is Xhosa because she completely assimilated.
One of my car mechanics is from Burundi, I could pick up that Zulu might not be his first language but I couldn't tell that he was not South African until he told me himself. Him and his wife are leaving comfortably among Zulus and all the time I was with him he was speaking in Zulu to his son who has a Zulu name. I tell you that his children who are all born here will never have problems like Chidimma has had from South Africans.
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Ey Sis to be honest and respectful,your in-laws have made a really really bad name for bona.We not Xenophobic but kwanto ethi Nigeria ivele yonqeneke
Hey sis I hear you and I understand the problems “SOME” Nigerians are contributing to, but the reality is that we can’t blame every Nigerian for the crimes committed by a few. I also think most South Africans don’t how immigration works, you can become a South African permanent resident by applying through different streams that the South African government has, examples: through business investments, life partner,work,refugee and volunteer. So to say that both parents aren’t South African that doesn’t matter if they got their citizenship through these streams
Bathong. Heal Sisi.
@@ThetalkcentralbyphindyNigerians don't need to do that, they must improve their country's socio-economic conditions. If they are unable to improve their country, what would they do to our country. They must come to South Africa as tourists and go back to their country.
Your comment aged well. Turns out the brother in law is a drug dealer who steals people's identities. What a disgrace!
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@@Thetalkcentralbyphindydo you see how they are contributing? Nigeria is a red flag. Sisters are brave yoh!
There's no need to argue about this issue if you claim to be african, you will know that you are what your father is.no matter where you are in the world.
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You think slow Bruh. A citizenship is either by birth or by claims” but you worship the European to be a citizen, but an African is not. You are very slow. South African should stop this hates on other Africans, It started to Affect your fellow South Africans in Diaspora.
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Yes , which is her father is Nigerian of Igbo descent
@@phumlaBAC yep Africans knows very well that our origin is not written anywhere but in our hearts, when things don't go well, we know where to go,you can't be a goat and mix yourself with dogs,it will be easier for goats to spot you cause you wouldn't eat what they eat and you won't cry the same way they do,we all know that when you are alone at night that's where you speak with who you are and in my life I don't think I can claim what's not mine cause it will be heavy to carry.
You are whatever your father is, this thing of just making babies with the whole world and expecting us to embrace them is nonsense, why cant they be nigerian like their fathers?
It's weird bro...foreigners hate south africans but love their country, hypocrites
It's crazy bro...Nigerians are embarrassed about their home....red flags
True you belong to your fathers tribe
They are Ashamed of their country and nobody takes them serious, there is pride in been South African
@DumaM-ir7rk True, our sisters are breeding with illegal aliens and those children aren't South African 😂
South Nigerians,what nonsense is that?
They call south Africa xenophobic country but still flocking in SA in millions fighting to be south africans😂😂😂😂😂
What are the benefits of having a South African passport????
@@Thetalkcentralbyphindyyou tell us..
As your husband.
If you are not Xenophobic then accept Chidimma as a South African then bru. 🇿🇦 Don't also push this narrative of African people are not welcome in South Ahhh. Relax. She's fire 🔥
@@sambanelly4219 u should refrain from using your nuts to think young bull...this is a country we're talking about not ur grandmother's house, okay? okay
South Africa is not the only African country why don’t you try next door
South Africa is not a country for a specific people. South Africa is not a tribal country. In fact South Africa is a region, that is, South of Africa, named by white people. If you are a Zulu then you are from Kzn, you are not from Limpopo or North West and you are not the same people as the people of these provinces. What would make you as a Zulu or as a Sutho be the same people as Pedi or Tswana people and be diferent to Shona, Ndebele, Shangaan or Kalanga?? All these people are different to one another. Each one of them is a specific tribe, it is a unique, none is the same as the other. These borders where put by the colonialists to conquer you , devide to better and easily conquer and then rule. None of the tribes created these borders. And why are you so obssessed with the colonial past to the point of discriminating and humiliating other blacks????????? If this is the logic then bring back the apartheid system. Your issue is that SA is more developed than other African countries and this being the reason why people come here, so what? Did you develop SA??? It was developed by white people, and white people are not xenophobic toward others. They may be racists but not xenophobic. Some say that SA can not carry the whole Africa. That is nonsense. The African continent has 1.2 billion people. The population of SA is 65 million including foreigners. Are the remaining 1.13 billion African people living in SA? They are in their own countries. They could come to SA if their wanted to. All they need is a passport. Some African countries need visa but many do not need visa to come to SA. And why is all Africa not in SA?. This is a monsense hatred, self-hate because you are lazy and incompetent and then you get jealous. The bottom line is every country in the world has a foreign population. You go to Mozambique, Angola, Congo, Malawi, Nigeria, Namibia, Ghana, Ivory coast, Kenya, etc you will see plenty foreigners there and there is no issues. Why should it be a problem in SA??? Why??? Selfish people, with mentality of entitlements
Don't impose her on us, we are rallying behind our own beautiful SA🇿🇦 sisters,they must win, empowered & protected, SA 🇿🇦 first
She’s really annoying to be honest and too emotional.
She’s comparing her to European descendants and quite frankly it’s not the same . White people have been here five generations what does she expect us to do . The girl is first generation Nigerian to be born here . And has not learn anything thing about the languages or any ethnicity she has no loyalty to anyone even her profile showed to flags the Nigerian 🇳🇬 flag and Mozambique 🇲🇿 flag . Where is her patriotism .
Excuse you this is my channel and I will talk about what I want, do not tell me what to do
@@Thetalkcentralbyphindy you are an intellectual failure
@@phumlaBACyou are a dummy 😂
You mean your white and Asian sisters? What a dummy😂
But the law of citizens don't say if you are born in south Africa you are South African besides you can't apply law of other countries here in south Africa and some countries you come a citizens through the father not mother at least in south Africa Thy allow you if one parent is South African
I don't think if I'm born in kzn I'm automatically be Zulu even my parents are bapedi
It’s crazy because the same law your referring to allows white peoples whose parents are both Dutch to become full citizens neh, this so called law only applies to African people who look just like you and me right? 😏😏 y’all are way too slow for this discussion
@@ThetalkcentralbyphindyAlmost every African nation was colonised by Europeans they formed the boundaries right ? We can debate that the land was stolen some other time.
So the fact that u know u are South African its the system every country accepted and I am pretty sure there are White Nigerians if not there were there before but left due reversal reasons, In SA I am sure u know White people didn’t leave they have established themselves helping to build the country centuries back and am sure 90% of white people in SA trace their roots here and never left the country through out the formation of RSA so do want them to be casted out as South Africans?
Chichi off cause she was born in SA through and Nigerian and Mozambican whom has no roots in SA but through neutralisation. SA has 11 languages with their own heritage and are recognised in the constitution, now thats where the law that will all submit to comes to place, which I think u should blame not South Africans, we don’t have Nigerian nor Mozambican heritage under our laws.
She praises her Nigerian and Mozambican heritage but enjoys the South African side as she was nurtured with and go see in some of her socials posting Nigerian and Mozambican flags but there was no South African flag. I bet u if she can go represents SA in miss universe or world u will see Nigerian and Mozambican Flags flying all over and where will that put South Africans in that space? You don’t see whites and Asian contests having their country of origin flags in their socials and I bet u again if u can ask them to put flags on the socials u will only see South African flag not Chinese or Indian nor Dutch flags.
Well put @@philad1439
What about the white people tell me how they became south Africans using the same logic
@@Thetalkcentralbyphindyyou busy with white people this not about them this time weAunty onescefe
Before I say anything, I just want to applaud you ma'am for your courage, support and understanding to speak on this issue. It is extremely refreshing hearing a South African take this approach.
Most people in this comment section are quite myopic in their thinking, inflictive with self-hate and are misinformed. And unfortunately, they are misinforming fickle minded South Africans who are contagious with this level of hate. And I understand, because it's clear that Mzansi is still struggling to find their identity as a nation, particularly within Africa.
1. People saying that she lied about being from Soweto or CPT... you do know that migration is a thing right? She could have resided and be born in Soweto and move at a later stage with her family to CPT. You do know that right? So saying she's lying about coming from Soweto is quite stupid.
2. Her Mother has Mozambiquan decents but was naturalized and has obtained her South African ID after years of following protocol. Therefore, with her mom being South African, and her being born here... SHE IS SOUTHAFRICAN.
3. By South African laws, to obtain ID or permanent residence status, you must have at least one of your parents being ID holders or you must be married to a South African. Additionally, you must be on a work visa for at least 5 years before applying for permanent residence.
4. People subtly pushing the narrative that the Father may be an illegal drug dealer (without any evidence to that) because he's from Nigeria is quite disgusting of you guys and I'm not surprised. Most South Africans have developed these discriminative and hateful stereotypes over the years and is symbolic of who you guys are and your inferiority complex towards Nigerians.
5. As a case in point, Trevah Noah is South African right? But his father is from Switzerland and his mom South African. There's a chineese South African who was eliminated out of the top 20 right? So why is there no uproar against her being that her identity and names are foreign to "South African names"?? She's is literally CHINEESE. You people go all around claiming Elon Musk, Doja Cat, Charlie Stheron and etc. People who don't even recognize you guys as a nation, pitiful. Even Dricus Du Plessis who South Africans claim, but yet has family and an ancestry in France 🇫🇷
6. When it comes to issues of immigration, you guys complain that y'all are not xenophobic and you are only concerned about illegal foreign nationals right? Lol Now, you have a lady who is not illegal, is South African and here you are complaining about her history of legality. 😂 You can never win with you people. So are you saying you guys know more or better than the South African Pageantry as a whole or better than their law officials who do background checks on all contestants?
7. Lol South Africa is not a rainbow nation, and I think even you guys are starting to accept and come to terms with the inner hate and anger you show towards your fellow Africans but not Europeans. Let's all just call a spade a spade. Some South Africans are hateful, quite narrow in their thinking and don't want to do the bare minimum of learning, growing and developing.
8. Last but not least, most of you in this comment section should do your best in researching, educating yourselves and travelling a lot more so that you can be exposed to modern day thinking and development.
9. Nkulunkulu (God) can be so funny sometimes 😂 he knows how divisive and discriminative South Africans are towards Africans and decided to place someone of mixed ethnicities in such a highly recognizable position? Kuzolunga! South Africans, you will be okay in the end, whether she wins or not so don't worry. If anything, I'm glad this has forced y'all to have a new discussion on this issue but in a different light.
Thank you once more mamzo for your discourse on this matter.
Kind regards.
A Proud African Man
@@SirEbube wow you couldn’t have explained this better, thank you for sharing this hopefully many would read to the end and hopefully receive some insight into how immigration works in South Africa.
Thank you 🙏🏽 ❤️
Her social media platforms affirms that she identifies as both Mozambican and Nigerian both by descent and ethnicity and as such is not really fond of the country she was born in.
Not to be narrow at all my brother but her culture is what is foreign to most South Africans and the fact that she doesnt even try to embrace the south African flags just adds salt to the already deep wounds that Nigerian illegal migrants have inflicted on the south african population by their mammoth participation in drug trade, human trafficking and sex trafficking.
She is legally south African but doesn't carry the south african cultural baggage and hence is not the best person to represent south african women.
African Americans -- welcome home
Continental Africans - Go back home
It's all about education,loving yourself and knowing your history
Well sisi we welcome the American people because they introduce themselves to us and they come here with good intentions,you are in America I hope you are documented and observe their laws so what is the difference with South Africa and this people they don’t associate with South Africans.
Shes not a threat beauty with brains is the thing we used to .she is not a South african period she cant represent us. but she can Malawi and nigeria
Good 👍
She’ll be great for Miss Africa. Not Miss South Africa.
she will represent us, what can you do bra?
@@JustinClark-r4z she's welcome to stay and represent you nigeria we dont need and we didnt ask her
Listen mama if a father is a Nigerian ovar is beloved Nigerian your daughter finish 😊
No amount of videos & twisted information can change our minds. We cannot have someone who's going to fly a Nigerian & Mozambiquen flag wearing our crown. Never
Good for you
NEVER!!! All she holds is a South African citizenship. She is not a proud South African that one 🤞🏾
@@asandanAt least she is NOT illegal. She is taught in SA Schools and is intellectually viable, talk less of the beauty. She will WIN.
@@lizaortegadecordero7680Yebo! We're in support
@@15th_century dey play..the crown is already her's and ours.infact we are coming to take it by fire by force.dey play,NAIJA king Kong.😂💪🇳🇬🇳🇬🇳🇬
The only thing I have with her is she seems like she doesn’t like South Africa look at her page she flying Nigerian and Mozambican flags and no South African flag and she claims represent South Africa then it begs the question where’s her allegiance to which country because if she align herself with parents countries that’s good than she must not call herself South African and represent South Africa.
You can never like people who kill thier follow brother
Both her parents are not SAns. What is it that you don’t get.
@@funekamtsilaf3509 she is South African by birth Nigerian by blood that’s exactly what I’m saying
@@Thetalkcentralbyphindy being born in South Africa does not make her a South African
They come to our country (SA) pregnant and carrying 4 kids to sit on a corner and want to do odd jobs for cheap labour
@@Thetalkcentralbyphindyit doesn't make her South African!when u make a video at least pretend to do ur research
@@Qotha So are white south africans not South African?
We love our brothers and sisters across the diaspora... Please Don't Duplicitous. . Please don't speak for us or be disingenuous...I hope don't think you are south african... your closed minded choices should not shut down the valid concerns where Nigerians are chased away from ghana, Kenya and even senegal and many other African countries 😳... There's nothing afrophobic about the observations people have made about the citizenship being bought in this country it's happening. Since my sister you are close to them...tell them to stop being afro-destructive in destroying other Africans by selling DRUGS AND disrespectful to our women by exploiting their poverty by prostitution them... Don't be selective if you truly represent the truth!!!
The way this lady hates us. I'll remember her one day. She knows nothing about us.
Who hates us ?
@@Thetalkcentralbyphindy You hate South Africans.
Your own people
@@nqabakula9262 I wish everyone can just get along
Bana ba hao ke manigeria. Finish.
They’re not just Nigerian sis they are PROUDLY NIGERIAN 🇳🇬🇳🇬🇳🇬🇳🇬🇳🇬🇳🇬🇳🇬🇳🇬
@@Thetalkcentralbyphindy Good.
@@Thetalkcentralbyphindy😂😂😂 no Nigeria is proud that is why your kids want to live here and be proud of S.A .
@@nhlanhlamahlangu2895 you are delusional 😂😂 who told you I live there?? 😂🤣😂
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Take your children to Nigeria if the man truly married to you
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Bra what about Indians they are not SA and they are not Africa?
She should go spend time in Nigeria for her children to bond with her inlaws.
@@gordenmg4966 wat about if she wins miss South Africa, what will you do? just asking bra
what about if she wins miss South Africa, what will you? just asking?
Listing's mama if a father is a Nigerian person your daughter is a Nigerian finish
What??
Oksalayo she's still South African. 🇿🇦
@@sambanelly4219 but will never enjoy South Africa
@@Qotha according to who?
@@sambanelly4219 me
It's funny how u spew misinformation so eloquently, but anyways do u bby. There's a very great relationship between SAns, Ghanaians, Namibians, Botswana people etc ... Study the relationship or lack thereof between SAn and Nigerians and speak on it
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I thiink that facts are not realy exoposed in this issue..the fact is there is a general hate for black South Africans by Nigerians and that infuriates most South Africans tiktok is filled with them spewing ignorance and disdain for black south africans. So to jave their seed representing our doughters?? How do you expect us to feel nobody cared about beuty pagent for some time but the fact there is a Nigerian there makes us care and pay attention
You need to heal mfethu. 🙏🏿
Yes we know they hate us, therefore we can't allow their offspring to represent us
She's not pround to be South African. She's hold Nigerian flag and Mozambique flag on her social media platform.
She'll not representing south Africans (birth-right country). She goes with Papa Mom nationality.
Do your research girl before posting, there's no birthright citizenship in SA.
Not since 1996
Your girl is not SAcan guys please make peace with it
Not even by naturalization
Can dhe be s thread in Mozambique or Nigeria
Which 12 SA tribes is she representing?
@@MalitabaMofokeng-th5fc she’s South African by birth and Nigerian by blood her nationality is South African
@@Thetalkcentralbyphindy there is no such law in South Africa
@Thetalkcentralbyphindy, unfortunately, not according to DOHA. They explained that on Newzroom Afrika. So this whole debate will continue until the Miss South Africa organization lets her go. DOHA explained what makes you South Africa, and in her case, she's not.
@@Thetalkcentralbyphindywht about Mozambique 🇲🇿 😂
White people and Indians in South Africa hardly raise british flag for example 😂😂😂 may Orania but those are south africans too!!…this one os nigerian makahambe😂😂
I think southafricans have made this girl more famous ; they thknk they destroying her..but they making her big star...
God uses the enemy to elevate you to higher positions. It Grace for her even though it might come as a disgrace
Shame go to sleep course she's not going to win
Where is our South African ladies to represent the country?to make us proud?than being represented by Nigerian No!!!!
What is wrong with you? There are present. Zulu girls and Tswana girls. She is not the only one there. The problem is you lot want to single her out and make her a hot topic issue for no reason, simply because she is of Nigerian and Mozambican origin and make her isolated in her own country of birth. She didn't come her yesterday. She was born and raised in South Africa and she still lives here and represents this beautiful nation and speaks Zulu and Xhosa.
If you can accept non African people to represent South Africa proudly, then you can do the same with Chidimma. You people need to heal. She didn't do anything wrong bathong.
@@sambanelly4219 what do you mean for no when the reason is there? She is not South African, that is the reason
@DumaM-ir7rk yeses now I'm lying? Entlek wena ke mang? Are you brain damaged or what? Wena o stlaela straight
@@Qotha So what about Vanessa Carreira? Natasha Joubert and a lot of the White people that entered? Does that include them or because they are white they get the privilege to be South Africans? Her Maternal Grandmother is Zulu. Chidimma is South African Finish and Klaar. Imagine if that was your daughter?
@DumaM-ir7rkThen she's not a South African she's not familiar with the culture.
We have 9 black indigenous tribes and languages in sa why we should let a mozambican and Nigerian descent whom because is born her then he must be miss sa what is sa about where are the twanas zulus Xhosas tsongas ndebeles sothos my sister I am sorry she is born her she is south african citizen but not enough represent sa
Why?
@@Thetalkcentralbyphindy because she does not belong here, she just got papers
@@ThetalkcentralbyphindyCelebrations will be nigerian nd we will ne left out and presented
@@Thetalkcentralbyphindywhich of the 9 black tribes she's conscripting to? The point is in 2024 we can't add Igbu to be our national symbol othetwise if we do that we lose our South African identity therefore Nigeria 2.0? No, if I move to Germany now I will be fullly converted to German hence I can't impose myself into Germans to accept me as Ngunu therefore forcing them to merge my Ngunism in their diversity.
We accept americans because they're not drug paddlers and kidnappers sesi, you're judged by your conduct.
Do you really know what you are talking about!
@@VukaNsundu715 of course I do.
@@gordenmg4966 are you African?
@@VukaNsundu715yes
THE PRO SOUTH AFRICAN VIEWS HAVE MADE IT TO THE HIGHTS SPHERE OF GOVERNMENT
If one of her parent was south african then she is south african . But if she was born in south africa by parents who are not south african , she is not south african . No hate there.
Oh but the Dutch gave birth to kids in South Africa who you all call South African proudly so because of the colour of their skin? 😏
@@Thetalkcentralbyphindy those ones are settlers.
@@pako4926 who stole from us but here we are accepting them why can’t you accept your own brothers and sisters you look like you ????
@@Thetalkcentralbyphindyplease dont talk about dutch people because truth be told myb 5 generations born here,how many generation she has here in SA if you recall stop hiding behind white people to make excuses of mistake of corruption.You know very well that people sold our documents which i cannot do in Nigeria
That is your opinion not SA law on that regard
0:10 Who is the real Makoti in this relationship, if your husband is the one wearing panties then ill understand that you paid lobolo to his family. the children belong to the tribe of the husband which is the culture across the continent. Your children are Nigerian that's where they belong whether you like it or not, you're also Nigerian since you are married into that family.
Guys kant what's the problem of yrs you always fight to be a south Africans
Yey ninzima crc😅😅
Being a South African citizen doesn’t necessarily open the doors of riches for one, so I’m really surprised by your statement
@@Thetalkcentralbyphindy Then why are you fighting so hard for your Nigerian kids to be South Africans? why you begging us to like Nigerians? if South Africans don't like Nigerians and you happen to be the few who like them then good for you but don't force it on the rest of us, with thinks they have done in this country, why should any reasonable South African like them? if black Americans are liked in SA and not Nigerians be it, people have their own reasons move on
@@lozi4163😂😂😂
@@Thetalkcentralbyphindy pho nilwelani?
@@lozi4163FACTS!!!
As citizen of this country by blood, am really afraid of the future of it, but what I see is just our children and great great children, will never have a place they call their own because South Africa has became something else, we can't defend it, this is a free country anyone can come and claim it, and we are not suppose to say anything, because is a free country for everyone,
Being SAn🇿🇦does not give you the right to dismiss,ridicule & vilify SAns🇿🇦 who do not agree with you,we SAns🇿🇦 are exercising our urgency,and its not based on your love life, don't make your choices to masquerade as our principles, convictions, laws,she does not resonate with us SAns🇿🇦period
She’s more South African that you will ever be, she’s clearly well mannered and has Ubuntu that a lot of you haters combined, being South African or having a South African ID doesn’t give you a ticket to success or wealth. You worship white people and discard Africans . The level of self hate you have against yourself is astounding
@@Thetalkcentralbyphindywe are not saying she's not manner she doesn't resonate to our history basically she's South African by documents just let her represent nigeria stop talking what you don't understand nothing ladythis is our country shup the fck up.
@@ThetalkcentralbyphindySouth Africa is our country stop forcing yourselves to other people she's has nigerians father and Mozambique mother both of them they're economic illegal economic migrants she not South African klaar.
But white resonate with you right, some of you people are inhumane. When white came to take over your Land African countrys stood by you, but it is very disheartening how you accept these whites as citizens and wouldn't accept blacks
Sazesavelelwa....thanda ama Nigerian akho sisi usiyeke phansi..
What people don't realize it that people can literally pay their way into being South African.
So yeah she is a South African.
South Africa is a nationality and it's part of our culture nothing more nothing less.
If his father is a Nigerian she is a Nigerian even if the mother is a South African
I don't like the fact that you say women married to Nigerians are quiet. We are not quiet but we can't stop people from hating on her but we do send her messages of support.
Hi Phumla I said woman with bigger platforms such as this influencers who have a larger following I’m not talking about those with some platforms
Firstly I'm glad you highlighted that it is not ANTI-BLACKNESS OR XENOPHOBIA since Black Americans are welcomed warmly in SA.
The Truth is: You say it's hard leaving your country kodwa Nigerians find it so easy since they do so much😭 but I think it's the same reason Nigerians' passport is one the weakest and the Black Americans' passport is one of the strongest is what influences the difference in reception. People who don't need to leave their countries(Americans) have a better image then and seen less of a national threat than people who desperately left their and will do anything to survive in another country(Nigerians) It's unfortunate but makes sense. Look at people from Botswana, leave out the cultural relatability but BW is a reasonably prosperous nation and are not known to cause no trouble as immigrants when they are
Gauteng culture of a melting pot is transported across the broader South Africa through Education,Media,Television,Radio etc South Africans know who they are, they understand that we have 11 official languages, that we have Black(Zulu,Xhosa,Tswana,Sotho,Ndebele,Venda,Pedi,Swati,Tsonga),White, Indian & Coloured South Africans, we literally learn this as kids in school
The Miss SA issue not discussed properly tho and it;s not solely about this but about a Representation of Black SA girls
Wow, your assumptions are wow! Believe me, when Black Americans and any Americans or Europeans or Asians etc. live their place of birth for any African country, including South Africa, it's because they need to. They are running from stress and being overworked only for all their money to go to the high cost of living 😢😢😢. Those who came have managed to squeeze some money by working triple shifts or take out loans and are running to African countries because they think our costs of living is so......cheap. they live with these delusions and many of them end up running back to their homes and face the very hard life they have there. Why? Because they learn no where is a bed of roses and it is better to stay where you are familiar with. Anyways, this love is purely out of fantasies about who they think have the most $$$$$$$$$$. The truth will come out in shocking ways. Africans, hold your heads up through these storms for they all shall pass. We can get there quicker if we do away with self hate. Outsiders come close to you for the betterment of themselves and not for you. Don't be delusional. Love begins at home. Charity begins at home.
rubbish talk
no india, no no ways
You mother is not sa your father also not sa
They’re both SA
@@Thetalkcentralbyphindy you dont look south african
You the biggest bully in this comment section. You are disrespectful as they come but do whatever it's your channel.
Good 😊
Heal 🙏🏿
Please don't talk nonsense
What are you trying to explain
She’s hoping that we will say we love nigerians or something 😂😂
ENVY! Nigerians are the most successful blacks anywhere in the world and we don't have hate in us towards other black folks. we have achieved this much with all the challenges our country presented... wait until we get our leadership right very soon , then we will shock the world and we will carry all our black brothers and sisters along!
Nigerians have good hearts 💞
Even in death we will support this girl because she's South African I am a South African pan africanist
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here is the Chidimma issue: first the parents met in Britain before 2010 and in 2010 in South Africa. If she was born out of wedlock then clearly she does not qualify, If she was born from marriage, then she will be 14 years at the most. Secondly, any person born from a foreign national in Mzansi does qualify as a citizen. Department of Home Affairs will issue a registration of birth which must be taken to the relevant Embassy for that child to be registered as a citizen of that country (Nigeria). Thirdly, the father came to South Africa on a visitor's VISA and did not and does not qualify as a naturalized citizen . Conclusion is therefore that Chidimma is a foreign national who is a resident of Mzansi and not a citizen of this country. Disqualify her.
She is half Nigeria and Mozambiquean SA does not exist in her blood
Neither in the Asian Girl … so whats your excuse besides papers ? Hypocrisy .. SAns just own your Afrophobia ..you ain’t fooling anyone .
What matters is that we are all Africans and our continent belongs to all us....let's enjoy the beauty of being Africans❤❤
Yes sis Africa for all ❤️🫶🏽
Your kids are Nigerian ma'am...why are u embarrassed
They are proudly Nigerian honey, I’m not sure 🤔 where you heard that I’m embarrassed from?
@@ThetalkcentralbyphindyIgweee😂😂😂
If she is south african and the kids are born here they can claim their south African side one hundred. Stop being xenophobic
@@MissEasy- 🤣🤣🤣🤣small ogas are becoming igweeeees
@@nelzg5819 their father is Nigerian...that says it all! Only on south Africa where we have male makotis!the kids belong to Nigeria..finish🥱
South Africa is multiracial and it is good the way it is. I do not know why people like you want to divide South Africa for your own gains? you cannot compare someone who has been in South Africa for generations and someone with foreign parents regardless of being African, another issue she even put foreign flags and yet she wants represent South Africa what is this nonsense?. South Africa is for South Africans not Foreigners (regardless of being African, Asian, Europeans and etc).
Divide who ? Lol please don’t make me laugh Venda’s and shangani’s are still outcasted by the rest of the country because everyone think’s they’re not good enough. The country has good people who don’t care 🤷♀️ about foreigners nationals and the ones that have still yet to see Cape Town with their own two eyes 👀 , but cannot afford to due to failed government that makes them believe that their jobs are taken by foreigners nationals. Instead of blaming them for looting and selling the country 🤣😂🤣😂
@@Thetalkcentralbyphindygo to Nigeria my sister with your family in south Africa we are xenophobic country
@@Thetalkcentralbyphindyyou are laughing at yourself 😂😂😂 can't you see all that wrote none of it is true 😂😂😂 you are just trying to save your face South Africa is for South Africans not for foreigners whether you like it or not.
@LLEntertainment I have never seen someone blinded by emotions like this lady @thetalkcentralphindy she is even spreading misinformation about South African tribes, I now believe the muti from ...... is too strong for her to resist 🤣😂.
@@Thetalkcentralbyphindy go and sleep with him in Nigeria not here
You talking rubbish
Great 👍
My sister I think you don't have enough information, this thing started long time ago is not a SAcn thing. It happened in Ghana and Nigeria when they chase other Africans to go back to their home. I have a friend who works in Ghana and it's been more than 12yrs and the experience was not good he told me they were given a permit to drink in a specific area and they have to report even when they go to the mall so that they will send them their own transport to pick them,on the way the police will be waiting for them to request a money to allow them to pass. He further said the everywhere they go they were paying money even to the person who serves alcohol.
I hear you Lucas but in this regard we are talking about our children who are now caught in this Afro phobic state of South Africa, where are they supposed to go? The corruption your friend experienced in #Ghana is quite common in South Africa, police also stop cars to ask for money and extort money from foreigners nationals who have documents just for the sake of being in South Africa
Well in African culture children stay at their father's land finish and klaar .
@@africaiswealthy.africanson5072 🙄🙄
@@Thetalkcentralbyphindy They must go to Nigeria😂😂😂
Speak for yourself and Drug dealers. Our kids are dying our cities are Turned into Slums
the unescapable realty that you are fully aware of is that Nigerian children have no future in South Africa so the strategies of mobilizing Nigerian wives is a futile exercise.
My kids have every right in South Africa 🇿🇦 as any other child should
@@Thetalkcentralbyphindy you see clearly the political direction that is why you are mobilizing Nigerian wives. Hate to break it to you there are no wives of Nigeria that can change the political discourse. No Nigeria children will inherit what we have build solely.
In the near future the citizenship will be determined by the Father of the child watch the space & it will apply retrospectively.
Let me laugh in Spanish first 😂😂😂
They shoud simply move to Nigeria for the sake of their children's future
Here is My perspective as a Black American. When we come to South Africa, we come in love and really wanting to learn the culture and finding a sense of our African identity. We don’t do hustling, sex trafficking, drugs. Scams, etc. unfortunately Nigerians have a really bad reputation for doing what i previously stated. We don’t live or hangout in all black American enclaves or neighborhoods in South Africa, we live with the people, Nigerians don’t do that, you have all Nigerian Enclaves in Joburg and that pisses people off, you have to understand why South African have a problem with Nigerians.
@@mphosa995 how do you know? I done my DNA test and it’s west African and East. Stop with the nonsense and xenophobic comments. When you didn’t have democracy, it was us Black Americans who gave the ANC money and support its leaders, we boycotted the NP and made sure American companies leave South Africa when apartheid ruled the nation. We welcomed Nelson and Winnie Mandela to Harlem with big crowds of love. Stop talking ungrateful nonsense.
@@mphosa995 I know my culture. That’s not the question for me !!!
@@mphosa995 no the culture we had to create to survive because our African brothers conspired with the white man to enslave us. Your culture or tribe is?
@@mphosa995don't come here spew nonsense 😮 we love black Americans here. And we also love those people from West or east Afrika so show some respect boy
@@mphosa995 whatever 🤷 what's wrong being represented by a fellow African or you want a Chinese to represent you 🥱
Okay if she is south african which tribe does fall under?
She doesn’t have to belong to a South African tribe to be South African. I think that’s where most people get it wrong
Afro phobia nonsense
Comment down below and give your thoughts on this topic please be respectful of others while stating your opinion, else your comments will be removed 😊
@@Thetalkcentralbyphindy You the biggest bully in this comment section. You are disrespectful as they come but do whatever it’s your channel
Our great South African sisters don't mate with foreigners,you're lesser daughters with no backbone.
You have no backbone.
@@petermasilo-jo7jg thank you 😊
@@phumlaBAC thanks 😊
Pls come to Lesotho we need people like you chichi
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Both Chidimma's names are spelt wrongly in the title. Please kindly fix it.
Please help with the correct spelling 🙏🏽
👑 Queen Chidima 👸 Miss SA 👑 Chidima.all of the best babygirl and thank those who made 💖 💕 u so famous later 👑
Amen 🙏🏽
Thanks God bless u for ur support leave those animals that is making noise to continue to waste there energy as chidimma is warming up to archive her goal
We are tired of this topic and now let me be open to you… until Nigeria learn to respect South Africa 🇿🇦 this war will never end, chidima is not a problem here but the problem is because she has a Nigeria genes so we want nothing to do with Nigeria 🇳🇬… You are still paying for what Burna Boy said about our late AKA
Don't defend lies guyz,be on the right track
I think the hangover of apartheid on the psyche of the South African is heavy. If Africans married Europeans are taken or accepted as Europeans one is taken aback at the backwardness of black south Africans in this regard. They say that they are losing their identity. Stupid thought. Nigerians don't do tha because we are more civilised in Nigeria.
@@adekunleadesoye7882 you’re right, apartheid is still very much alive in the hearts of our people it’s very unfortunate, just like a child that has been abused for years it’s always hard to fully heal from these type of trauma. I think more conversations like this need to be held in order to heal and educate people so that the hate of our own people can stop
I think in this case of Chidimma, her father came to South Africa in 2010 as he said already Chidimma was born in Nigeria from a different lady who's not South African and he married the South African or that Mozambiquen lady that he claims and have kids. Then they decided to bring Chidimma to South Africa at the age of about 9yrs to grow up there and fordge the documents for Chidimma via corruption to fulfill her dream. Maybe if the mother can come forward or the relatives of her and clarify this matter it can cerstify every who have the question about this.
Both her parents are not south africa unlike your story.
My son is Canadian even though I’m South African and his dad Nigerian, your nationality comes from the country you are born to, why is it ok for the children of our oppressors to be South African because they’re born in our soil but it’s wrong for our own African people children to be South African if they’re born on our soil ? seems unfair and very wrong
@@Thetalkcentralbyphindysister yours is deferent you are a South African automatical your child is South African,but here this girl's parents are not South African somebody said its actually her stepmother which is South South African. So here is question how did his parents obtain citizenship till now theres foriegn lady who can't get smart ID she hasn't qaulify for it,but her late husband is South African. Dont look at this from your prospective only because this is pure corruption from home-affairs,i don't want look like a bad person but our people specifically females have been selling our citizenship just for small money are been exposed for wanting to have divorce.Dont forget foreigners who have been fraudulently using South African documents doing all this people end-up in serious things,till today they still fighting for their identity because western African person using it working with home-affairs workers.Im married to a foreigner still my wife hasn't got her PR but the west African people got theirs fast because of corruption we be dealing today we be called xenophobic
@Thetalkcentralbyphindy they're south african
@@Thetalkcentralbyphindyyour kids are Nigerian
@@ThetalkcentralbyphindyYou should blame the law not South Africans the law here does not say if a child is born in SA through a foreign father let’s use tht coz that’s what defines ur nationality should be automatically become South African and we all know why the law does not allow tht.
Put SA first why can't she be miss Nigeria
If we are to take you reasoning, we will wake up with a Nigerian President of South Africa because of our women.
But this debate is about cultural representation - surely someone who wants to represent the country should embodies the spirit of the people - this girl identifies as a Nigerian - she has a Nigerian and a Mozambiquan flags on her Tik Tok account - obviously I don't agree with the toxic social media comments, but it is a valid discussion to have...
Is so sad how us Africans we look one another down,if she was in Canada or USA she was not going to have any problems,but I believe one day Africa we will be one .
Its ok , she represents you and your pals not most of us black south africans , you speak more of this country more than your country of origin. She doesn't carry the pride us as south africans if you get what I mean.
Where were all these voices when the Portuguese contestant won?
Black on black hate 😏 our people need to change their ways of thinking
Why are you so desperate to be South African ? We are enough being 11 in the Rainbow we don't need Igbo No
Don't lie, we have Zimbabweans & Mozambiqueans that we have embraced and work with. They don't arrogantly cause social problems for the country, and they are respectful.
Chididima is proudly Nigerian, and celebrates with the Nigerian flag. Both her parents are foreigners, and the law says she's not South African. You can't use xenophobia or afrophobia to shut us up, we don't have a fear of working with foreigners. Her heart is Nigerian, you must encourage her to go and represent where her soul is
YOU JUST WON A SUBSCRIBER. Love from Lagos!
Thank you 🙏🏽
Great speech, but i think it would have been most appreciated if it was made in Nigeria towards Nigerians. Who till today, theyve failed and are still failing to fight for the girls that were abducted zillion years ago, and more are still abducted in Nigeria, sadly instead of their men fighting for them, they're vagabonding all over the world. Mostly are busy fighting SAns for exercising their rights on issues that are SAn and for SAns.
Wena my sister, we understand inkinga yakho, udakwe yiwo shem. Cant say much especially you boSisi bethu.
Unfortunately none of you will silence us, we fought for these rights. We have freedom of speech as well of activizm.
xenophobia, racism and apartheid is the same
Exactly 💯
Uyadakwa lo . nothing colled South nigerian. We have south africa as a Country and Nigeria as a country.
yohhh south Africans we have lost our culture completely 🤦♂️
1. In African culture in South Africa, when you get married you go to your husband's home, hence you use your husband's surname. Awuhlali ebukhweni, ngo-Sibayeni na aba bakhwenyana bethu.
2. If a person is not married and having a child, it's different, the child belongs to her mother's side. That is african culture in South Africa. If the father wants the child, there is a process that is followed.
3. If the father's family does not acknowledge the child even if the parents are married, the mother's family takes care of the child and claim her/his as theirs.
4. With these instances, there is no half these, a child belongs to a certain family, depending on the circumstances.
We need an update about Chichi Adesina Miss SA... I heard home affairs has released some updates about the matter.. it's only fair after people were called names
Check out the video I posted last night
There are SA men with kids out of SA why the double standard.
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What is this southgerian thing about this is mzansi. We can't even think because we are overcrowded
She must take the crown and run with it to Nigeria. There is nothing that South Africans can be proud of even if she wins. She does not represent South Africanness. Period !
What's your point
the fact that she rather wants to represent South Africa and NOT Nigeria, says she believes in South Africa more than Nigeria.
Her life style doesn't say that she is proudly Nigerian and Zimbabwen nothing south African about her she can win but as South Africans we will say we don't have a miss SA but a miss Nigerian because that's exactly what it is her blood is Nigerian
Why don't you just stay away from South Africa
In 2023, Lydia Balogun was rejected by many Nigerians who said she doesn't represent & carry the "Nigerian identity, culture, & language. Then you didn't call Xenophobic
They are not south African kids 😢😮😢😢😢
Who said she's a threat....she isn't a south African representative...🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷thats all.
Clearly she was everyone was scared she would win 🏆
That is why they fail to support eff bcos jm is telling them the truth but bcos there lost that is why there seing jm as a traitor instead of praising him for opening there eyes to embrace there fellow Africans
We give black americans the same benefit of doubt that we once gave nigerians, till they took advantage of our hospitality. Secondly you are not south african, we can hear your accent...
So where am I from ?? Ke wena wazi kakhulu angithi 🤔
We don’t know where you’re from but not from South Africa “ke wena wazi kakhulu angithi” 😂😂😂😂😂 and that just proves us right what mixture of languages is that 😂😂😂😂
@@lebogangllale1257 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 you’re definitely reading this wrong, and definitely not Zulu either. “Ke Wena” read this in isizulu 🤣😂😂😂
A child take the Father surname and by blood, am a woman sometimes I also fear myself, honestly sometimes we must fear woman, aitog
I think, if someone tells you to go back where you come from, you shouldn't be worried by that, as long as you know that you are legal in that country, because the only department which knows that it is the Home Office who knows that you are legal in the country, but definitely not that person. Therefore, they just need to chill.The other thing i want to mention, is that, you mentioned something about, saying that, most of the Nigerian people who are in South Africa right now, are reluctant to interfere with Chi-Chi's and her parents issue, of which i think they are not reluctant at all. The only reason why they don't want to get involved, it is because, most of them, they are just like Chi-Chi's family, because they also are aware that they haven't got any correct documents or proper procedureral documents to be in South Africa, as it happens always with the Nigerians. As a results they are scared to death, wandering if what is going to happen to them if they happen to be found in nearly similar cases, as most of the Nigerians, do not have proper documents to stay in South Africa. Most of them get those documents through corruption, while they are happy to pay a lot of money just for them to stay in S.A. Therefore for them to stay silenc it is their only option, as they think it is the only best way for them to hide for the South African government or community. They are going to be found one of the days, if they don't put their citizenship qualifications documents in order, for them not to be sent where they come from.
I bet one thing, if She was from Zambia , Botswana, or Swaziland etc no one would notice but Nigerians have done something to South African maybe that where the problem is, so this whole thing need a review from both parties. What went wrong ? When? Why did it happen, and how can we fix it?
The hate won't help us no matter who it is coming from.
Our starting point needs to be on the rule of law. I personally believe it no1 reason we are where we are. Come on, Africa, let us upgrade the problems we entertain. We can't move forward if we continue to live like this.
Administration of individual countries is still hard for our leaders. So by the time that administration has to be for Africa as a single country it can be much harder. Let us start, but controlling understanding. Amoungst us as communities then we can take on to more complex issues like living in harmony as different people with one Vision.
Maybe 🤔