THE BRITS BOYCOTT THE BANKING! The Story of the 1960 Italian Grand Prix
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- There's that long running meme that FIA means Ferrari International Assistance, but have they ACTUALLY had things changed to suit them because why not? Well, one of those instances could be the 1960 Italian Grand Prix, when the organisers decided to run the whole combined track+oval configuration to allow Ferrari to use the one advantage it had.
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Fun fact: This specific layout was specifically built to be exactly 10km long, and it is, it's not 1m too long or too short.
The level of consistency of this guy is phenomenal.
I agree, solid content everyday
Sounds like a good story time Enzo Ferrari vs. Italian racing officials I'd like to hear more of that if you don't mind
There’s been a collective awe of that combined circuit ghost hanging over every Monza GP race. Being iconised as a lost tradition by Frankenheimer’s Grand Prix helped that myth, even to its contemporaries. Its only recently I’ve realised this misguided 1958 re-construction of 1920s reckless misjudgement was so rarely raced in F1 (1960-62) and the story of a GP circuit that really wasn’t comes out. GP Laps has simulated the 10km layout that made some sense in the 1960s as a sportscar endurance track, where the banking speed is lowered by chicanes with Belisha-like warning lights, but its still something to be just survived. Its totally inappropriate for F1 and its heavy use in the famous movie was more about the ease of James Garner, Phil Hill & Ritchie Ginther shooting real in-car F2 footage at simulated speeds up there, while the 1966 Monza GP weekend burred away untroubled underneath as a thrilling backdrop. The banking creates an unforgettable finale that saved a tortuous film production that magically was shot, edited & released between Monaco & Christmas. For example of how hard a racing film was to make back then McQueen’s more existential Le Mans also began scouting & shooting in 1966, but took 5 years to emerge, almost longer than the Ford-Ferrari war that inspired it.
Wow you certainly know your stuff.
I have to admit that movie really did capture the danger and risk of F1 racing in the early days. The story line was typically cheesy but the racing was epic.
Love the historical f1 content and stories. Keep ‘em coming Aidan
Brilliant as always Aidan, love these F1 history videos
Im a Scuderia Supporter....but damn i was not prepared for Ferrari International Assistance....i like how redbull say Ferrari are not political in terms of protesting....im sure they do not know Mclaren and Brawn protests🤣🤣
Well researched again Aidan. I knew it was the last front engine win, but I didn't know about the boycott.
I didn't know the banking was only 21°, I always thought it looked more like 35°.
I've visited Monza and couldn't even crawl up the slope of the banking. I think you're right
38 in the steepest point F1 says
How about when the Italian organizers rearranged the gird layout in 1957, just so that there would be an Italian car in the front row.
As far as I know, the older grid pattern used at Monza is a 3-2-3 grid layout. But in 1957, the Vanwalls of Stirling Moss, Stewart Lewis-Evans and Tony Brooks (who died a few weeks ago, RIP.) were the fastest cars, locking the grid between the three. So, the organizers changed the grid layout to 4-3-4 to allow Fangio, in the works Maserati 250F to share the front row with them...
Another fun fact: The car Phil Hill drove to win at Monza in 1960 still exist. It actually won at Monaco a few weeks ago! Driven superbly by Claudia Hurtgen, who is sideways even at the hairpins!
I tried to climb the Monza banking, but I really do worth my teeth's wellness and acknowledge my lack of balance, so got only midway before desisting. Anyway in order to climb it you'll probably need your hands too
Yup! I got up it 😀
I am absolutely certain that Enzo made a comment that the Horse should pull the cart. Not push it..
Cant remember which book i read it in though :(
Edit: the quote was "The horses pull the carriage, not push them"
Thanks for the videos mate. Always look forward to them to learn something new.
this is a great video, looking forward to your next video
my favorite talking head man with another banger video
Great piece of F1 history I was unaware of . I remember Stirling Moss in a Fergusson v Ferrari at the Gold Cup at Oulton Park in i think 1960
May sound weird, but I'd forgot jus HOW stubborn Enzo was... My parents are stubborn! In a good way!
Oh yeah, you never mess with the engine when Enzo is around, as you will be immediately sacked. He always said when theres an issue with the car, it's the drivers fault. Car is perfect.
Done that track on AMS2... Just as mental as it looks.
And as I look out the window I see Avenida da Boavista where the Circuit of Boavista used to be. Nice!
That last non-championship win you mention- that was Moss in Rob Walker's Ferguson, right? 4WD as well... And the team was last privateer team to win in F1, and the first win for rear engined car since Auto-Unions, IIRC.
NASCAR drivers boycotted the first race at Talladega because for the high banking. They had to add cars from different teams as well.
There were a lot of factors that culminated with that boycott in 1969, mainly shredded tires and safety concerns, along with the construction of the track being completed precariously close to opening weekend. But that's not the end of it, there was also a scoring error, even though there were only 3 cars that ran competitively and the rest of the field were just field fillers from NASCAR's division below the Cup Series. Still considered by many people, even to this day as being the single worst race in NASCAR history without question.
This link should give you the full story, I trust it will be to good use: ua-cam.com/video/t5p6TajVQI8/v-deo.html
@@jordanmustang87 Thanks for the link. I have seen it before.
Is there anything better than this intro song?
Light jazz? Must be an Aidan Millward video
I love this channel, especially with these kinds of videos!
Great story. Thanks as always.
"Horses Pull, they don't push"Enzo Ferarri. 😎.
About the easiest way for an average Anglo to say Reims is Rance (rhyming with nance, as in the female name Nancy) but deemphasising the n \m/
As a Frenchman I had been wondering what Anglos could relate that to, throughout the whole video. That comes close indeed.
love the historicals.cheers .
I wish rfactor 2 had every car and every track from 1950 to 1990.
I often think of this as F1's first controversial race, an inglorious final win for a front engine car
"Manipulate" is a great word I appreciate the choice.
Kinda funny how many Ferrari road cars have a rear engine, if I’m correct, starting with the Dino 206 GT. Enzo was one stubborn SOB.
Subscribed to hear about the other boycotts
Get my Bell On..!
Italian authorities messed around with snowboarding and mountain bike events in the 90s to try and get italian winners
It's rather funny that you can now buy a yaris with more power than a formula 1 car then...
Indy this weekend! Get HYPE! From my seat, start finish will be to the left. They should be pushing 240mph by the time they go past.
I love alliteration.
True
Intro song?
That hairline is holding on for dear life
There Comes A Time in every man's life we have to accept the inevitable and just shave your head that day was about 12 years ago for me
I keep it knowing that people seem to care so much.
@@AidanMillward coming from a fellow man who is follically impaired it's always seemed like more people were upset about me losing my hair than I was. I got the horseshoe with the Krusty the Clown island in the front. I just keep it short and wear a hat when I go to the racetrack so I don't burn the top of my head maybe it's because I've never really been that handsome of a man to begin with but it didn't really bother me to go bald and the only time I ever really thought it looked bad as when it was grown out.
@@AidanMillward your Channel does Sim racing as well I want to see a wheel review because I'm about to upgrade my rig and as a loyal subscriber I would like to see a wheel review currently have a G29.
@@AidanMillward you could fly to turky and oull a lewis hamilton
A bank holiday?
maFIA. Except they don't favour Ferrari but Lewis.
Millward’s law strikes again.
Does anyone know why Enzo was so insistent on using front engine cars?
He believed in just raw power winning races. So fiddling with science and CoG and aero was just people compensating for the fact they couldn’t build an engine.
Because he’s Enzo
That famous quote was either said in the 50s when streamlining was all aero had to do so Enzo trusted his firepower, or while the wings for his 312B were being designed in 1968... Some sort of classic Chris Horner cheeky statement. Then Amon gave 4 seconds to Stewart in Spa the same year
What surprised me is the banking was 21 degrees when it looks in pictures to be as steep as Talladega. For reference indy is 9 Daytona is 31 and Talladega is 33. I've driven Atlanta in march at 28 degrees and that was steep but it's the transition as a Brit that gets you
That's because it's 80 percent which is 38 and something degrees, in the steepest lane. 21 degrees is about 40%
The US would be using the metric system, but well Pirates!
As an American I don't quite understand the Europeans fear of highbank corners.
cuz f1 cars like to kill you sometimes, you might load up some assetto mods or something and give it a go. your way more exposed. i remember reading something bruce mclaren wrote about a race he did a monza i believe i might be wrong on the track, anyway he watched a car infront of him fly off the back, the man was expelled from the car cuz no seatbelts, 30 feet in the air and of course died on impact. times were different man
@@IliKeCAkEeverMrCake I live in Indy iv been to over 10 500s going Sunday to this year's. I guess calls I grew up around ovals but 33° of banking is not uncommon. 20° dirt banked tracks are as common as sun rises. This is sprint car country though to be fair.
We don’t fear them. We only have a dislike to them when the car can go off the edge and into orbit becuase there’s nothing stopping you from going off the edge.
If you saw how bumpy the ride was in that oval....it was worse than anything in modern racing. The Italians made it in pre cast sections and it is on pilings. It like a frost heaved sidewalk....and remember, these are GP cars ...not heavy Indy Roadsters or stock cars. They won't take the pounding because they were not designed for that sort of track
In the movie gran prix they touch on that topic a little bit with all the drivers complaining about how bumpy and dangerous the track was you might have a watch, it’s a classic
Actually Ferrari International Assistamce is no more. Now its called FIAMG, because especially in 2021 FIA was biased such as hungary when seb was dq-ed just to give Hamilton extra 3 points
They need to bring back the banked corners. They just need to smooth them out and let the boys go at it like real men.
I thought this might be a GBP/BRexit kind of thing, But we saw the Americans dominate an F1 race.and you even wrote the prescription. Using a bit of a quote from Shakespeare, it's something like... "The first thing we do is eliminate all the Britons" or some such.
Lol you are so biased we get it you hate Ferrari
Reporting what happened that day is being biased? Get over yourself.
@@AidanMillward Yes but what about all the times when the FIA was bad to Ferrari. Like Canada 2019. You never talk about that. Insead you talk about a race from 60 years ago where the FIA didn't even have cameras to see what was happening at most parts of the track.
@@vitopolito6219 I talked about Ferrari’s “dodgy” engine in a video three months ago.😉
@@AidanMillward I never mentioned that lol.
@@vitopolito6219 you said “you never talk about when the fia was bad for Ferrari”. I said I did a whole video on it, and that’s still not good enough for you 🤣