Edge Banding Trimmer

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  • Опубліковано 23 гру 2024

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  • @shawnfogle6096
    @shawnfogle6096 5 років тому +1

    Wow, after watching all of your newer videos and coming back and watching this one, I can say you’ve come a long way man in the quality of your videos!

  • @MisterSoul99
    @MisterSoul99 12 років тому

    That vid brought a tear to my eyes..... my first trimmer was a makita, it was stolen on a job and I have gone through three more, none as simple and comfy as that one.

  • @deezynar
    @deezynar 12 років тому

    That's what I thought. Thanks for making that clear. That feature and the use of a trim bit on the opposite side of the table is what makes this unit so good.

  • @JohnHeisz
    @JohnHeisz  12 років тому +2

    It would be an awkward operation on a router table, especially for larger panels. This is more of a very specific tool that is best suited for edge banding and has the adjustability needed for very close cuts.

  • @seanfagan3107
    @seanfagan3107 5 років тому +1

    Just made this trimmer in a couple hours. Works great! Thank you for sharing!

  • @JohnHeisz
    @JohnHeisz  12 років тому +3

    Thanks!
    I don't think I can claim "invention" on this - there are probably very similar machines available to do this, but in a large production version, for cabinet making shops.

  • @JohnHeisz
    @JohnHeisz  12 років тому

    For the sake of simplicity, I went with the cam. The cam pre-lifts the arm to the approximate height, so that when the work is pushed through, it doesn't take much effort to push it. This also reduces wear at the pivot point, as the range of motion is reduced.
    A more elaborate machine could have a larger roller in place of the cam, in the place you suggest - this would make it fully self adjusting.

  • @JohnHeisz
    @JohnHeisz  12 років тому

    Dust collection can add quite a bit of complexity to a project but is certainly worth the effort. For something like this, that mostly spits out chips, I would just clean up afterwards, if it is a small run. Otherwise, a 2-1/2" hose could be attached to collect the chips just above the cutter - this should be very effective.

  • @givreycham
    @givreycham 10 років тому

    John this is a brilliant idea and I have started making one. I have a spare router that I am going to set up semi-permanently. The only problem is that I cannot source a long enough ¼" flush trim cutter, the longest (in the UK) seem to be about 32mm. So I am trying it without the second fence and using the pivoting part as the fence. I have put an extra lock / clamp on it and it seems to work ok. Thanks for the realistic videos. Geoff

  • @JohnHeisz
    @JohnHeisz  12 років тому

    Thanks. I often take some details for granted - I should have mentioned it in the video. The table is about 3/4" from the fence to allow for the uncut edge of the panel, so that the panel can sit flat on the table. The gap between the fence and table needs to be wider than the thickest edge banding that will be trimmed.

  • @JohnHeisz
    @JohnHeisz  11 років тому

    The spring and gravity. The cam only sets the router close to where it needs to be for the cut.

  • @markspears1167
    @markspears1167 6 років тому

    Wow!! Great trimmer. It appears to work very well. I need one of those.

  • @bencook9267
    @bencook9267 7 років тому +1

    I'd love to see u make an adjustable hinge jig that I could take to my job sights.
    love ur work

  • @ksp1278
    @ksp1278 8 років тому +1

    Thanks for the idea. I would like to do similar, but I've just thought of a design change, and was wondering what your thoughts are. Instead of having the router bit riding on top of the wood, could you instead have it below. You could then use a standard straight-bit, rather than a flush trim bit (which will only ever be as accurate as the bearing is to the blade). The platform your workpiece rests on would be adjustable with screws so you can make sure it's perfectly aligned to the router bit. With the router underneath, the thickness of the workpiece you are cutting doesn't matter.

    • @ksp1278
      @ksp1278 8 років тому +1

      Actually, just thinking, probably easier to adjust the router height rather than making the platform adjustable. But still, I would be interested in your thoughts on having the router underneath the workpiece.

    • @johnjrgensen8877
      @johnjrgensen8877 8 років тому

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  • @arkledun
    @arkledun 11 років тому +4

    This is an excellent idea. I think that the reason for the edge banding sometimes not to be perfectly flashed could be that, if you have banding on both (opposite) sides of the board at the same time, the unrouted banding that is away from the router will lift the board causing the side at the router to be slanted downwards.and the edge away from the cutter. Once both sides are trimmed, a second pass should correct the problem. Thanks for sharing John.

    • @OwLoLz
      @OwLoLz 11 років тому +2

      Wouldn't it be easier to edge band one side, trim if off, then to edge the other side.

    • @tomwags4238
      @tomwags4238 10 років тому +1

      OwLoLz
      I believe what he means is..when you put an edge on one edge of the board, the flash overhangs the top and bottom of that edge. Perhaps a small groove the flash could :"ride in" would eliminate the problem. Lots cheaper then the $50,000 edgebander I had in my shop :) .....

    • @linkinprk1981
      @linkinprk1981 10 років тому +1

      Tom Wags
      Or just put your panel on top of a secondary flat surface that would run on top of the table, almost like a sled, then the edges would hange over those and not cause it to be unlevel while going through the cutting head.

    • @jdhannan
      @jdhannan 10 років тому +1

      Tom Wags you mean like the one in this video?

    • @frameriteairdrie578
      @frameriteairdrie578 6 років тому

      Just a simple watch of the video will show that the white platform does not reach all the way to the fence. This leaves a hollow trench that the bottom overhang will ride through, without touching anything.

  • @toddbailey5198
    @toddbailey5198 11 років тому

    Very slick! I''m going to have to try and make one of these. The only thing I might change is the cam. Personally, I find a round disk with an off centre hole easier to make and the pressure is in a straight line between the bolt and the support so it is less likely to slip.
    Again very well thought out device.

  • @WV591
    @WV591 11 років тому

    Very clever on leaving that gap between fence and table

  • @LiloUkulele
    @LiloUkulele 4 роки тому

    Great video...Thanks so much....sharing the build details is very kind...Kudos plus!!!

  • @DavidTermini
    @DavidTermini 11 років тому +7

    This is a great system and will make one next time I do a lot .Thanks for sharing

  • @JanJan-yt3hs
    @JanJan-yt3hs 5 років тому

    very good and clear explanation and demonstration... thanks

  • @reunioncommittee3726
    @reunioncommittee3726 5 років тому +1

    why do you need a cam? why dont you just free play it since the router bit bearing will automatically follow the thickness of the ply. great idea though

  • @walterrider9600
    @walterrider9600 8 років тому

    thank you the ideas you come up with stagger my Imagination

  • @JohnHeisz
    @JohnHeisz  12 років тому

    I swear I didn't take it! ;-)
    I generally don't have much to complain about, where Makita tools are concerned. I've used and owned many of them, as well as other well known brands. I've found they have the best balance between affordability, reliability, longevity and usability of the mid-priced tools.

  • @JohnHeisz
    @JohnHeisz  12 років тому

    Thanks and thanks for watching.

  • @clifffarion7448
    @clifffarion7448 6 років тому

    Thank You - Makes me think about why I getting poor results from free handing the trimmer.

  • @velcroman11
    @velcroman11 12 років тому

    Rather than the manually adjusted height cam, could the cam be moved to just before the router cutting bit so that as the work was introduced to the router bit the adjustment cam lifted the cutter to the correct height?

  • @emintivo
    @emintivo 10 років тому

    Nice. Great idea John

  • @ww55d
    @ww55d 11 років тому

    this would also work well for rabbets with a rabbeting bit or a slot cutting bits.. excellent..

  • @GlassImpressions
    @GlassImpressions 12 років тому

    You should design dust collection into your projects! that would take them to the next level

  • @Mr2at
    @Mr2at 12 років тому

    not seen anything like that before, great idea

  • @bretjohnston6725
    @bretjohnston6725 8 років тому

    Hi John really good idea, I have ordered the same router and will build as per your idea. Thank you

  • @paul9813
    @paul9813 9 років тому

    Very clever jig!

  • @realprojecttools3543
    @realprojecttools3543 8 місяців тому

    do you have video how to make that edge bander trimmer jig?

  • @patrickberry1596
    @patrickberry1596 10 років тому

    Nice job sir!

  • @deezynar
    @deezynar 12 років тому

    That's awesome! I've never seen anything like it before. Very original. You didn't say anything about it, and the view of it isn't great, but it seems there's a gap w/ a gutter between the table edge and the fence. That's a pretty critical design feature for this tool. Can you elaborate on that a bit?
    Again, great idea!

  • @Pantorouter
    @Pantorouter 12 років тому

    very nice idea!!! i think i can try this idea on my hybrid pantorouter.thanx for sharing.

  • @remi0321
    @remi0321 4 роки тому

    nice build

  • @Jcvicente18
    @Jcvicente18 3 роки тому

    Good Morning! I not found de dimentions sheet, I only found a 3D model. Can you help me? I lake make one for me...Thanks very much!

  • @deezynar
    @deezynar 12 років тому

    To do this on a regular router table or a horizontal router table, you'd need a false fence w/ a gap. See my comment below. That wouldn't be hard to make or put on when you need it. However, this setup he has here is pretty easy to make & doesn't take up much room. He says he does a lot of this type of work so it's worth making one.

  • @andrewchow9453
    @andrewchow9453 11 років тому

    maybe adding a port for attaching the shop vac.?

  • @JohnHeisz
    @JohnHeisz  12 років тому

    Thanks!

  • @lunhil12
    @lunhil12 12 років тому

    Cool setup.

  • @tomwags4238
    @tomwags4238 10 років тому

    Very ingenious.

  • @JonJon-gu7xy
    @JonJon-gu7xy 12 років тому

    how do u run the uneven edge banding along the fence on an ordinary router table? You just gonna use no fence and run it on its end? kinda hard to balance that way... I NEED A ROUTER TABLE!

  • @LiloUkulele
    @LiloUkulele 11 років тому

    So, it is the spring tension that keeps the bearing in contact with the work and not the cam?

  • @carlossilva2640
    @carlossilva2640 9 років тому

    Muito engenhoso e bem feito amigo! Parabéns e gostava de saber k material leva e os passos a dar p montar!

  • @abdullahsoud7031
    @abdullahsoud7031 11 років тому

    Hi...its SAM from Kuwait .. its grate idea but instead of using MDF use plastic transparent and instead of nail use scroll with nut and shave it !
    good luck

  • @luciocarrozzo6738
    @luciocarrozzo6738 10 років тому

    Hi John, was just wondering why you would need the cam, as having the bearing on the flush bit would in essence act as a self adjusting cam at the same time.

    • @oluyemiogunjimi549
      @oluyemiogunjimi549 10 років тому

      I thought so too. The spring pulls the router down and the bearing ensures the cutting distance. The cam actually reduces the adaptability of the system to any size of plywood.

    • @JohnHeisz
      @JohnHeisz  10 років тому

      That question was asked before and the answer is in the other comments. Basically, it pre-sets the height.

    • @RetiredRhetoricalWarhorse
      @RetiredRhetoricalWarhorse 10 років тому

      The cam relieves stress from the router bit. I imagine that whole setup with the plywood, the mashine itself plus the spring will put quite a bit of shearing forces to the bit. I can't imagine that would be desirable... or healthy... or sane. Using the cam to preset the thickness should help there.

    • @paul9813
      @paul9813 9 років тому +1

      Lucio Carrozzo Imagine if there wasn't a cam...as the work piece entered it would bang into the bearing. the cam sets the bearing height so it's just below the work piece surface allowing the bearing to ride up on it easily. the cam should not be making contact during the cutting operation.

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      @calebbrady1606 9 років тому

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  • @ineedtwo5360
    @ineedtwo5360 3 роки тому

    What bits you used?

  • @RichardDrempt
    @RichardDrempt 9 років тому

    Wow, nice jig!

  • @datngophanduy4516
    @datngophanduy4516 9 років тому

    can you help to advise for router blade , video show how router blade cutting

  • @VipinKumar-fw9wn
    @VipinKumar-fw9wn 4 роки тому +1

    very good machine

  • @niklasschenck8486
    @niklasschenck8486 10 років тому

    Install the router fixed at the same height as the white board and use a router bit without bearing. It can also be done on any sharper or router table. Or simply just buy a lipping planer. Lamello, Hofmann or Virutex.

  • @JohnHeisz
    @JohnHeisz  12 років тому

    Thank you!

  • @Woodentoolcompany2
    @Woodentoolcompany2 11 років тому

    Nice. I built something like this a few years ago.

  • @owenjennings8575
    @owenjennings8575 7 років тому

    Simply brilliant.

  • @MULALIC101
    @MULALIC101 7 років тому

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  • @sidwiavh7472
    @sidwiavh7472 10 років тому

    What grade of plywood do you use, that you want to cover up the material you're using?

  • @mrabimohammad9280
    @mrabimohammad9280 3 роки тому

    Really nice

  • @Noeman2009
    @Noeman2009 9 років тому

    Awesome...I need to build this one..

  • @okimike100
    @okimike100 10 років тому

    Good job!

  • @ColtWorks100
    @ColtWorks100 5 років тому

    do you get any chipping with the veneered edgebanding?

  • @Yevgen6R
    @Yevgen6R 11 років тому

    Awesome tutorial! Thank you very much!

  • @SawyersMusic
    @SawyersMusic 11 років тому

    Hey john I built one of these pretty much the same as yours. I'm having trouble getting it to cut close enough without taking of the plywood veneer. Any tips?

    • @luciocarrozzo6738
      @luciocarrozzo6738 10 років тому +1

      Apply tape on the veneer side that way will keep the cutter .010mm above veneer and with light sand should make it perfect

    • @SawyersMusic
      @SawyersMusic 10 років тому +1

      Wow thank you that's a great tip!! Thank you

    • @luciocarrozzo6738
      @luciocarrozzo6738 10 років тому

      you welcome

    • @JohnHeisz
      @JohnHeisz  10 років тому

      The router is supposed to be tilted up at the back slightly - that's the 2 degrees thing in the plans and article.

    • @SawyersMusic
      @SawyersMusic 10 років тому

      Yes I have the 2 degree bevel you are talking about I got it to work a long time ago thanks for your guys help

  • @OneManBandWoodworks
    @OneManBandWoodworks 10 років тому +2

    Awesome, you are a genius

  • @JohnHeisz
    @JohnHeisz  12 років тому

    Thanks again!

  • @kickstein
    @kickstein 6 років тому

    Good video editing.

  • @738polarbear
    @738polarbear 8 років тому

    Sorry but I do not see the advantage of this over the. router bit in a router table. The purpose of the bearing is to limit the amount the blade removes isn't it?

  • @bigandy1982
    @bigandy1982 6 років тому

    Good work lad.

  • @stringmanipulator
    @stringmanipulator 10 років тому

    Very clever idea!! I've learned a lot from your videos. Thanks for sharing your knowledge! Are you happy with that router? I'm fixing to buy 2 new routers, a small laminate router like the one you have in the video, and a bigger 1/2" router.. can't afford to go crasy with it so .. :) no festool for me.. hehehe

  • @kundanlalahirwar3764
    @kundanlalahirwar3764 2 роки тому

    Great idea

  • @woodstoney
    @woodstoney 12 років тому

    Great demonstration but this is basically a horizontal router table. With all due respect, couldn't you accomplish the same thing if you used an ordinary router table?

  • @andregross7420
    @andregross7420 12 років тому

    Very nice!

  • @Gnomenome
    @Gnomenome 10 років тому

    perfect job

  • @DIYModernTwins
    @DIYModernTwins 8 років тому

    Awesome!

  • @us410
    @us410 9 років тому

    Band-it paintable edging

  • @deezynar
    @deezynar 12 років тому

    BTW, liked, favorited, and shared on Facebook.

  • @chincw1215
    @chincw1215 9 років тому

    very good

  • @Jcvicente18
    @Jcvicente18 3 роки тому

    Sorry! my ask is about "Making An Edge Banding Trimmer Attachment"

  • @DmitriyKucenko
    @DmitriyKucenko 11 років тому +1

    Очень интересно !

  • @RGplayer101
    @RGplayer101 12 років тому

    nice

  • @Fernanderas2011
    @Fernanderas2011 7 років тому +1

    This trimmer is great, thank you for the video, I have a few questions for you, may I have an email please ...thank you for your time

  • @dostonqodirov9088
    @dostonqodirov9088 3 роки тому

    Yosun

  • @julungwangi3440
    @julungwangi3440 7 років тому

    inspirasi i..

  • @1124chichi
    @1124chichi 8 років тому

    fymm

  • @adrianadonis852
    @adrianadonis852 10 років тому

    Hi guys I live in Philadelphia Pa and have lots of PVC Edgebanding rolls i want to sell if anyone interested, send me a message.

  • @Benzknees
    @Benzknees 9 років тому

    Or you could use a plane and sandpaper.

  • @suzanneprotin4686
    @suzanneprotin4686 6 років тому

    ;

  • @الشيخ-ع6ب
    @الشيخ-ع6ب 6 років тому

    سخيف

  • @АлександрЛогачев-р6б

    Пустозвон.

  • @JohnHeisz
    @JohnHeisz  12 років тому

    Thanks!

  • @andrewchow9453
    @andrewchow9453 11 років тому

    great idea!!