Simplex Fire Alarm Test #72
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- Опубліковано 9 вер 2024
- Horn test on a Simplex 2001-8001 at a church/school. Panel is a dual bay variant with the bottom half utilizing 2 signal cards. This vid had been in my files for a while so I apologize for any poor quality. For its age the sound & output remains decent on this dinosaur. System trips the fire zone on the buildings security system thus the keypad must be silenced at the end.
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Can those fire alarms do code 3?
@@chrislp1145 Not really. Unless you replace the sounder cards.
I love fire alarms
Nice I subbed
Question question what kind a fire alarm are those?
Nothing more fun than hearing old horns screaming on Continuous, some with lamps and some with strobes.
Makes my day!
THIS LOOKS SPICY!!!!!
I god dang LOVE 2001s
@4050-80 I suspect it's a late-Simplex-2001 setup, like Crotched Mountain school. (continuous) I also saw fast strobes like the cafeteria and near music class (all with '9806s) A slow strobe outside of science class with a '9833. Looks like the same era as the Crotched Mountain group homes as well. (The OP might know something I don't, but it looks like it could be as late as 1985 or 1986, like I think the group homes of CMRC/CMF) I know that when I stayed there, the stuff looked fresh, where I had my first homeroom there and the best teacher, which was next to the cafeteria. The Pierce building is the other building with a janky system, despite same FACP series! That has the library, gym and swimming pool.
Now this really is a "GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE! YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT!!" sound
Sounds like the filtering capacitor needs replacement.
Amazing how the old systems activated immediately compared to new systems today those few seconds mean everything.
Thats due to verifications within the panel. Another way if saying of trying to prevent a false alarm.
@@FireRescue80 But, sadly, that's known to fail when an insect or an arachnid gets into an opening of a smoke detector! One day, I saw an insect fly in one, then saw that red light! I knew there was going to be a false fire alarm!
@@RJARRRPCGP Dang.
@@FireRescue80 I have to wonder, even with the verification, why the delay is that long considering how fast modern processors can and do process data.
@@FireRescue80 no?
Welcome back! Glad to see you back on UA-cam!
Wow, quite a unique system. Glad your back and look forward to new content!
The middle school I went to had the ones in this video. Brings back memories of when there was a “special” kid (for a lack of a better word) who pulled the fire alarm during lunch. Lucky me I sat 4 feet away from the alarm so my ears were ringing for a while
same here my high school use to have these my first year use to scare the shit out of me, the very next year they put a voice evac simplex tru alert system. Way much better
Wow this system sounds awesome! Love it!
4 of the alarms sound abit raspy two sounded very healthy but the system obviously does it’s job Awsome seeing old system still in use
probably loose
Been a while since I've seen videos from you, but welcome back and I'm looking forward to more!
Yes!! Another System Test Video Coming Up!! I recent graduated and I wanted to take this job!!
Judging from the way those mechanical horns specifically sound, I believe that these horns are 9833s.
@Safetech I love the mechanical horns that were put into this building they sound really awesome and epic at the same time!
Nice a Simplex 2001 system still in use!
And the thought,it has a 34t-24-ws too
@@kayderrobh5931 Almost, The Horns You hear here are Simplex 2903-9101+2901-9833(Faraday 6020's over Simplex Light Plates). They do have a sound similar to the Wheelock 34t which is still made today
When the start of the video sounds like a traffic jam in Florida I know it’s going to be good!
1:28 Jesus it sounds like the credits to Portal: Prelude up in this joint
That system is a beast still holding strong some of the alarms could use a bit tightning on the wreckets
Please come back, SAFETECH!
Oh, my so many rare devices!
The return of safetech
The ones in the gym sound healthy
Strange how the security siren wasn’t doing code 3. Those Honeywell/Ademco systems usually output temporal coding to the sirens upon a fire zone activating.
Unsure on the programming. It’s likely the same for each zone.
@@safetechit’s a fire vista most likely and u can set the coding on the siren output
Looks Cool!
0:40 that one fluorescent light in class
i love the old systems
Looks like it used to just be a Federal Signal/Autocall system or something, and then the building was added onto and that was when the Simplex 2001 system came in with the 2903+9833 horn/strobes and 4251-20 pulls in the addition.
Horns sounds scary to be honest
Congrats! Keep up the good work!
Welcome back!! Everyone misses you!
HOLY SHIZA THIS IS GONNA BE GOOD!!!
He’s Back
0:55 nice sound
theres a church in oak ridge,tn that has 2901-9833s on 2903 lightplates the daycare center side has 2901-9838s on 4903 lightplates the panel id have to guess is a 4002 systems 24 yrs old and they have no desire to replace it
I bet it had to be LOUD in there!
Imagine waking up to that in the morning
@Bart Lee I do during the overly long sermon😳😛😄
Wouldn’t be a bad alarm clock
I think continuous it the cruelest tone you could do because there's no breaks you have to keep your ears covered at all times until you exit the building.
Omg same! It’s absolutely horrible
those pitches remind me of texas commutity college fire drills.
That's a loud one a mix between a burglar alarm and fire alarm cool video ☺☺☺
The ones in that gym sound pretty healthy
Update the old simplex system in the old Kmart in cookeville tn was replaced with the L series horn strobes the simplex alarms did there job for 40 years sad the system was replaced
Finally!
Yay!
I wonder when his next system test is I hope it has a bunch of old simplex 2903s with 9838s and 4903 strobe plates with them also
The most recent if u have not seen was from August and it Consisted of 4903-9238 Horns On a 4002 Panel at a Local Performance arts school, And that was On Continuous Code but I believe the Strobes were Synced but had some issue, Check it out when u have time
There's a 4251-21 with a Simplex 2903-9101 with a 9838 and a 9833
welcome back it ben a long time and I can not wait to see the live stream today
Nice video!
Im excited!
Mmmm cheeseburger
This guy needs a new filter cap! Even the light on the ab32 at the beginning was flickering
Nice video Billy!
What are the horns? I know there are some 9806s, but idk the others. I'm guessing 9833s
Correct, There are 9806 Horns In Older Spots, But In the Semi-Age Part(Gymnasium), The Alarms are Simplex 2903-9101+2901-9833 Horn/Strobes. Im Guessing the 9833 Combos were Replacing the Older Autocall System.
I Got confused on sound too, But I Keep forgetting the 9833 and 9838 can Have their Pitch Changed By Screws, Except the 9833 is Louder by 106 Db
@@armaniwilliams5752 thanks man! Speaking of 9806s I dropped one on my head while I tried to selling mount it
Somes there's a:
Federal Signal 450D with a AV32 Strobe
@@armaniwilliams5752 I know 9846s are 90 dbs 9838s are 85 bds dang 9833s are 106 dbs that is insanely loud
He's back and giving us more videos! He loves us again!
Welcome back SAFETECH. I know you said a while back that your lack of uploading was due to the high security buildings you now worked in. Is that still the reason for your absence of uploads?
All those alarms seem to be in pretty good health for their age, with the possible exception of that AV-32 & horn at the beginning (which I'm assuming replaced a 2903 + horn); the horn sounds kinda stuttery (& rough) & the light on the AV-32 flickers. I think this is the first system I've seen with strobe 2903s: most other systems seem to have the light variant.
Huh, don't believe I've ever seen a dual-bay 2001. I've seen single-bay ("Repack") 2001s, as well as large multi-bay 2001s, but I don't think I've ever ever seen one with exactly 2 bays.
Thanks for your comment. If I recall I believe this panel was offered as a middle option in series of 3 along with the repack style variants. Basically 3 motherboard options I think.
This sorta sounds like something in the backrooms. it even has a bit of that demonic harmonizing
Omggg I LOVE THE 2903 and SPACE AGE LIGHT PLATES
@iatif1995 they aren’t light plates. (The Space Age is) the 2903s are strobe plates.
That is continuously loud
i hope your next test will be a huge simplex system
A couple sound raspy but the ones in the gym sound healthy
looks interesting!
isnt this at YMCA somewhere in south california
Read the description.
Alarms:
Simplex 2901-9838's
Space Age 2DCD
9833s
FS 450Ds and 9806s
Almost, The Horns For the Semi-Age were Simplex 2903-9101+2901-9833 Horn/Strobe Combo(Faraday 6020), And the Lobby has two Space Age Electronics light plates with Federal Signal 450D Horns
Sounds like it’s running FWR, or the Filtered DC is messed up.
Most annoying chorus that’s also somehow beautiful
This system Runs Great for a Old Panel like this, The FWR Makes Some of the Horns Sound A Lil Gross, but not too much. Speaking of which, Why did Simplex Begin Using FWR on Some of their panels
Btw, The Horns Sound Like they Could be From Faraday, Judging by how the horns Sound in the Gymnasium, I could be wrong, They could be Simplex 9838's or the 9816 Variants
Now, That Space Age Horn, Its Time for a Replacement, All the other ones are good
I could be wrong but it may just be outputting FWR due to a bad filter capacitor
How often do you see SImplex 2001's on continuous?
The later-looking systems have that at Crotched Mountain school, both the school buildings. The Pierce building doesn't have the cafeteria and music class, but it has the gym and swimming pools. Also the exercise room, which outside of it, has (or had) a healthy 2903-9101 with a '9806 and one day, I was next to it and it sounded! I think I jumped! Closer to the gym, are rather sickly sounding '9833s (which also seem quiet!) They don't seem to be as loud as the group home '9833s. The '9806 next to the candlepin bowling alley, sounds off to me, but not truly close to dead, TMK. Made me suspect NAC wiring recently. (including a suspiciously quiet early-gen SpectrAlert horn/strobe in the gym, which they seem to only care about the strobe, LOL. The Pierce building is also a "franken-alarm" mix, with Gentex SHGs outside of art class and a Federal Signal 450E in art class. Also an SS MA in a nearby 2903-9101!
And also a 9838
Yeah!!!
An AV32, a bunch of 2903s, and a bunch of mechanical horns.
Awww crap I missed it
What horn is in AV32. The 9833’s sound like buzzers. My elementary school has 9217’s that sounded like they’ve suffered flu season. Very raspy….
sounds like that 2001 may be outputting FWR
Hello Billy, hope you are doing well. Do you have any way I can contact you directly?
Just wanted to throw that out there because I am a fire alarm collector who graduated high school last year and I am currently waiting to pursue a career in the fire alarm field once I am able to acquire a vehicle, hopefully eventually working for Simplex at JCI. In addition to fire alarm systems I also have restored several antique radios and other vintage electronics and electrical equipment. I am very knowledgeable in electronics and fire alarm systems have always been a part of that. I am also very passionate towards the Simplex Time Recorder Co. and their history. Preserving these old panels and Simplex devices from being lost to time and meeting their fate with the scrap pile is important to me as so many of them get thrown away as they are upgraded, stripping away part of the history of Simplex along with them. I currently have a Simplex 4001 and a 4010, both good examples and I was fortunate to get to know a tech who was able to save them for me. I have each wired up to their own demo system with a few initiating and notification devices.
I was wondering if you ever remove old panels from service from time to time such as a 2001, 4002, 4004, or 4005. I am looking to acquire one of these. I would also be interested in something such as a small two bay 4020 or a 4100 classic that could have a few devices programmed into it for me (due to me not having access to program such a panel) I figured someone like you who comes across them would be the best person to ask about acquiring a panel or two and any old devices that get removed or upgraded. I, as well as the rest of your viewers and subscribers, appreciate the time and effort you put into making these test videos considering how busy your job is, and in producing these videos you are also showcasing and preserving these older systems from being forgotten.
Best wishes to you and your family and thank you for your time with Simplex and continuing to work hard to keep our life safety systems in check and us all safe. Take care and I look forward to future content when you are able to get videos out.
-Dylan
Thanks for your comment and kind words. As you may know I have many requests for items from the field. Oftentimes legacy panel components are recycled in house for use as backup parts at customer sites. However I will keep in mind in the event I find something similar to what you’re referencing.
@@safetech You're very welcome, thanks for your kind hearted reply. Yes I do know that people often request items from the field from you. I see, yeah I figured a lot of the panels are used for parts to keep existing systems functioning in the event a part fails. Thank you very much, I really appreciate that. These old legacy panels are a part of Simplex's history I hope to preserve and keep from being forgotten. Feel free to contact me as my email is in the about page. Take care and thanks again for your time, best wishes to you and your family.
wish more companies would realize they can program silent auto restoring fire zones which only trip the dialer instead of having to also reset the burg panel every time
Wow this system also trips security system!
That Fire Alarm is very loud!
Sounds like a swarm of bees.
Is it possible that you could make a more detailed video explaining how a simplex firemans phone jack system works? Not a single video exists
Damn that sounds like hearing protection is required...for the kids every drill
This is cool
That's was loud that my ears 😵💫
nice
That one horn from 1:04 to 1:20 sounds like my window unit, but louder, same pitch.
Wow
I have that same pull station, can be used on 125vac
Why isn't the Vista Security Keypad not coding the Security Alarm to code 3 when the Vista Security Keypad is in a Fire Emergency mode? Program defect, or the Security Alarm can't do code 3
What is that horn in 1:43? It sounds like a 120V horn
love the mix of horns in this, sound like they're running off of fwr however. was that a 2903 light plate in the distance at 0:26?
I thought Simplex didn't do FWR because all their horns couldn't handle it
@@GaryBeltz I know that but it sounds like the horns are running on fwr
@@GaryBeltz Well. The filtered capacitor gets bad and makes it FWR. The 4001 is unknown if it was originally Filtered or FWR
@@SomeDudeWithAnExitSign The 4001 is supposed to put out filtered. It's the same deal - the capacitor just goes bad.
@@GaryBeltz The older mechanical horns are generally fine with FWR. The 2903's are likely fine except for the increased flash rate. The AV-32, however, looks like it's not handling it well.
NOICE
Where was the siren at the beginning coming from?
It was the security system being tripped by the panel
This is space age horns
That sounds creepy
Yesssssssssss
I have been curious, on older systems which is more important, having strobes flash properly or the horns sounding in temporal code. It’s rare to see extra wires run to accommodate both which is why I ask. In my opinion, the 4903 strobe series is one of the only alarms I’m okay with the strobes being coded because in the process, these strobes also synchronize. However, to you or anyone else, what is more important?
New applications require temporal however in areas where this doesn’t apply it’s harder to control strobe rate with older xenon strobes. Continuous coding is often an option to achieve the best output.
Do you remember if those were -9838s or -9833s behind the 2903 strobe plates?
They're 9833s.
How loud was that in person ?
Huh?? Cant hear you… 😜
@@safetech Lol You inspire me to be a fire alarm instructor
This simplex 2001 is not coded
Safetech, have you ever seen a 2001 or 2120 with voice before?
A couple times but its been a while. Most in my area are replaced or updated.
0:41 it sounds like hair clippers
I got one fire alarm test video with 4m views 10k likes almost 700 cmts another with 2.6m views
Hi
My cat 🐱 absolutely hates this