I see a lot of people asking, so for clarification he mentions at 8:30 that this category is not "E8 Huntress WR" but "GAUNTLET E8 Huntress" that he got a WR in (more specifically the category is gauntlet proc characters speedrun, he mentioned that earlier too.) The gauntlet ruleset has very slight tweaks to the main speedrun ruleset, i.e no lunars, blue portals count to your time (maybe they do in normal wrs too though, i dont actually know.) So with that said, to verify a gauntlet run they check your run and the mods you were using, so no, the modded stage is not DQing, that is a chosen map included in the risk of resources gauntlet category mods (I believe) so the racers SHOULD be racing with it actually. Of course rng means they dont always get that map, as it is for all maps, but it's not illegal in this category to get fogbound lagoon. Nice job on the WR!
Imagine if they had challenges associated with it too. Like they could test Mercenary players' abilities to use their i-frames effectively by giving them something if they can beat it without getting hit
Yeah they could even be next to the eclipse difficulty in the extra modes menu Oh and a very cool addition to the idea, there should be some extra money on the starts and random artifact game modifiers with them for extra challenge.
I am honestly annoyed how the speedruns for this game on easy seemed to have more traction then on the hardest difficulty because on the easiest difficulty its more of a checklist then a challenge.
Speedruns like this are so rng focused I'm surprised people even bother doing them, like some dude gets 3 bands stage 1 and a vase and they're basically done.
Have you not seen speedruns for any other game? The default for speedruns are usually only the hardest difficulty if the hardest difficulty doesn't increase rng significantly. No one likes it when their run dies because they got bad items for 4 stages in a row.
That's mad, 4 seconds. 4 seconds and there's still so much room to improve and refine. You've got it in you, let's see that sub 20. The 'rambles' are great Woolie, shows what you know and gives the newer folk a great idea of just how much goes into playing this game, especially like this.
20:40 A ball is 3 dimensional and the volume thus decreases to 1/8 or by 87.5% when halving the radius; the area on the ground that you can walk on gets cut down to 1/4 or by 75%.
could be half and half. maybe it started off as an ego thing cuz at this point I doubt anyone thinks they're unbeatable after he's proven they're beatable so many times now. at this point he probably is just trying to be helpful or maybe he finds it fun.
I was reading the comments before the video so seeing this made me kinda sad (ever since his first race he quickly became one of my fave racers) thinking cabbage was actually just an egomaniac (which I guess he kinda is lol), but after reaching that part in the video I feel better. It's not pure intentioned, but I can't deny the spite of trying to prove people wrong, it sounds more like a healthy competitve spirit than a pure egoboost per se. He was actually extremely humble his first race (despite nearly sweeping) so it was kind of a shock reading that. Not that people cant be radically different off camera, and not to say he hasnt gotten a little more comfortable being cocky with the rest of the racers, but yeah. TL;DR your comment threw me for a loop lol.
From my understanding it uses the same format as the risk of resources races (lunars between stages banned, E8, laz wings, modded stage 3 etc.) with the only difference being random seed as opposed to set seed.
I actually dropped RoR2 for about a year and a half cuz no new updates (would really like to see balance changes or new alternate abilities for characters with ones that feel bad, like acrid and engi's left click abilities). It's actually from watching content creators like Woolie and Disputed that made me want to come back, and I'm starting my Eclipse grind finally. Really hope I can do Eclipse 8 on at least 1 character.
You should check out race on twitch or yt, one of the best e8 players and super knowledgeable. His vids and streams are some of the best resources for getting better at the game past monsoon
I hope you know that Hopoo Sold ROR IP to GearBox... So any update you expect....(copium) will be by Gearbox now...(creator of Borderlands 123) Hopoo is done for Ror2 forever.
@@yungchoc3476 I'm already subbed to Race but I almost never opt to watch him over some of the other content creators because (it could just be that I'm super unlucky and this is purely by chance) every single one of his runs that i've clicked on are Recycler runs and it feels like he's easy-moding the game. Like idk, the runs feel scripted. He sees a Recycler every run and I never see one in my own runs or other people's runs.
@@idkwatimdoingtbh Yeah, most of the runs *he uploads*. You have to remember he plays a fuckton and uploads only the best runs. He streams everything as well so I don't think he could be cheating in any way. And this is just personal experience, but after I started absolutely full looting every run, I've gotten a recycler in a very significant portion of them. And Race is very much a full looter. Also saying he's easy-moding is hilarious considering he plays with Umbral Mithrix without bonfire every single run. And I haven't played it myself but I would definitely say that mod is the opposite of easy mode, especially on Eclipse 8.
Woolie at 18:39 you talk about youtube quality being worse than stream. UA-cam gives bitrate depending on the resolution of the video, so if you simply upload a 4K upscale the quality will improve even though pretty much nothing changed about it. Iirc even 1080p gets better bitrate if a 4K resolution is present.
Im not 100% sure abd havent finished the video, so he might say something thay completely contradicts this, but I think it might just be that the WR part here is a little misleading, because it's not a ror2 wr, but the gauntlet ror2 huntress wr. That has it's own category now on speedrun net and actually requires verification of the same mods and setup as the gauntlet package to be added to the leaderboard, but it's not meant to be compared against vanilla ror2 records.
The gauntlet category has its own set of rules, and this map/mod is developed by someone on that team (I believe?), so they have included it in the mods needed/accepted to verify your runs in this category
Fogbound Lagoon is a very popular modded stage for the game. The moderators allow a certain couple of mods for runs, since the stage doesn’t really affect runs at all. It’s stage 3, so it can’t really be grinded for, it doesn’t have any real benefits that are special to it, and it’s not really harder to navigate than other stage three stages
To all the people commenting on the third stage, do you not think he knows the rules of the run hes playing if he's going for a world record? Make it make sense
What causes the big difference in time between the in-game and post-game timer? Is there a difference in how they track or parts the post-game omits that the in-game still actively tracks?
I enjoyed you putting commentary over this video but I wish the OG video was muted. Sometimes there was talking from both and it was hard to hear at times
I haven't played the stage three map you got that's underwater. Isn't it a modded map? Wouldn't that disqualify your run? I know it was mentioned at the start of the video that there's the mod that adds 5 minutes to the run, but that doesn't affect gameplay aside from infinite lives with a penalty for the gauntlet category. But the map counts as valid as well?
It's the fogbound lagoon mod by JaceDaDorito, it's allowed because the challenge runs have a similar format as the risk of resource races, which also uses it
there are 2 mods u might wanna try risky artifacts which give artifact of arrogance(mountain shrines are permenant) and zet aspects which makes it so elites aspects can be stacked and are reguler items not equipment
Map is a modded map called fogbound lagoon, the risk of resources guys adopted it into their races and considering this specific speed running category is an extension of that they kept it in. I personally love it map looks and plays great.
Fogbound Lagoon is a very popular modded stage for the game. The moderators allow a certain couple of mods for runs, since the stage doesn’t really affect runs at all. It’s stage 3, so it can’t really be grinded for, it doesn’t have any real benefits that are special to it, and it’s not really harder to navigate than other stage three stages
Bro there is no way Woolie is human... are you kidding me? I can't even have a prayer of a chance of beating Vanilla Monsoon... and he just makes speedrunning eclipse 8 look like childs play? I mean isn't eclipse 8 like Monsoon to the power of 8?
Mr Steamer, might i ask why you dont use Ballista right when he lands and stands in one spot for a second? Seems like a free hit, unless getting hit makes him dash earlier or something
The moderators for (ant least this category of) ror2 runs allow a certain couple of mods for runs, and fogbound lagoon is included since the stage doesn’t really affect runs at all. It’s stage 3, so it can’t really be grinded for, it doesn’t have any real benefits that are special to it, and it’s not really harder to navigate than other stage three stages
Fogbound Lagoon is a very popular modded stage for the game. The moderators allow a certain couple of mods for runs, since the stage doesn’t really affect runs at all. It’s stage 3, so it can’t really be grinded for, it doesn’t have any real benefits that are special to it, and it’s not really harder to navigate than other stage three stages
Hi Woolie, are Lunar items not viable in these runs for whatever reason? I'm curious why something like Purity wouldn't be viable - with Huntress' normal dash, you'd have a free pillar skip, and enough damage from ballista spam and any non-proc items to easily and safely clear most stuff. It'd be even better on Loader, but I know you're a huntress baller. Thanks!
sub 20 next
edit: lmao it's already gone - new WR by Kei is 21:34 xdd
yeah im on it
I did a few sub 20 runs the other day I think someone broke in and stole my capture card though
Go full rng mode and sub 10, like just hope to get a band printer or something.
LOL as if
@woolie can we get the uncut run?
I see a lot of people asking, so for clarification he mentions at 8:30 that this category is not "E8 Huntress WR" but "GAUNTLET E8 Huntress" that he got a WR in (more specifically the category is gauntlet proc characters speedrun, he mentioned that earlier too.)
The gauntlet ruleset has very slight tweaks to the main speedrun ruleset, i.e no lunars, blue portals count to your time (maybe they do in normal wrs too though, i dont actually know.)
So with that said, to verify a gauntlet run they check your run and the mods you were using, so no, the modded stage is not DQing, that is a chosen map included in the risk of resources gauntlet category mods (I believe) so the racers SHOULD be racing with it actually. Of course rng means they dont always get that map, as it is for all maps, but it's not illegal in this category to get fogbound lagoon.
Nice job on the WR!
imagine if there were weekly leaderboards for a set seed map every week.
The devs prolly wont add it but itd be cool
that'd be so sick they could even give it a cool name like "prismatic trials" or something it'd be awesome
Imagine if they had challenges associated with it too. Like they could test Mercenary players' abilities to use their i-frames effectively by giving them something if they can beat it without getting hit
to incentivize speedthey should make the player have to break crystals or something to activate tp idk maybe its wishful thinking but itd be cool
Yeah they could even be next to the eclipse difficulty in the extra modes menu
Oh and a very cool addition to the idea, there should be some extra money on the starts and random artifact game modifiers with them for extra challenge.
Fr they should revamp prismatic trials to just be full run with a set seed speedrun
Woolie comin in hot with 2 days of back to back uploads, ya love to see it.
I am honestly annoyed how the speedruns for this game on easy seemed to have more traction then on the hardest difficulty because on the easiest difficulty its more of a checklist then a challenge.
ig just because the runs are more consistent in easier difficulties
Tbf, a speed runners worst nightmare is rng. Ror2=rng. Rng=resets out of your control=time wasted
Speedruns like this are so rng focused I'm surprised people even bother doing them, like some dude gets 3 bands stage 1 and a vase and they're basically done.
Have you not seen speedruns for any other game? The default for speedruns are usually only the hardest difficulty if the hardest difficulty doesn't increase rng significantly. No one likes it when their run dies because they got bad items for 4 stages in a row.
@@lknight1266idk tho, minecraft RSG is one of the most popular speedruns of all time and still has crazy RNG so it's still fun to a lot of people
never expected id be watching ror2 speedrunning on this channel but theyre so much fun, keep at it woolie
crying at the guy at 0:48 saying this is the run right as you get hit by that golem
thanks for uploading a video explaining the run! It's super fun to learn about how things work as they're happening
25:15 the music being in sync with Mithrix returning was hype
Congrats man, that's insane
That's mad, 4 seconds. 4 seconds and there's still so much room to improve and refine. You've got it in you, let's see that sub 20.
The 'rambles' are great Woolie, shows what you know and gives the newer folk a great idea of just how much goes into playing this game, especially like this.
"WR Pace" is the term you're looking for. Good run.
congrats my boi woolie!!!! love the content man, keep it coming!
HOLY GUAC, you actually did it, GG Woolie!
Now for the boneshatter victory lap!
just watched the video you put out, perfect time to watch this follow-up!
Definitely tuning in to the streams from now on. Speed running is so bad ass
20:40 A ball is 3 dimensional and the volume thus decreases to 1/8 or by 87.5% when halving the radius; the area on the ground that you can walk on gets cut down to 1/4 or by 75%.
Honestly hilarious that Cabbage does the merc runs as an ego thing. I really thought they were just being helpful
could be half and half. maybe it started off as an ego thing cuz at this point I doubt anyone thinks they're unbeatable after he's proven they're beatable so many times now. at this point he probably is just trying to be helpful or maybe he finds it fun.
I was reading the comments before the video so seeing this made me kinda sad (ever since his first race he quickly became one of my fave racers) thinking cabbage was actually just an egomaniac (which I guess he kinda is lol), but after reaching that part in the video I feel better. It's not pure intentioned, but I can't deny the spite of trying to prove people wrong, it sounds more like a healthy competitve spirit than a pure egoboost per se.
He was actually extremely humble his first race (despite nearly sweeping) so it was kind of a shock reading that. Not that people cant be radically different off camera, and not to say he hasnt gotten a little more comfortable being cocky with the rest of the racers, but yeah. TL;DR your comment threw me for a loop lol.
@@tahseenkhan3629 wait sorry where is it talked about that cabbage is a egomaniac? Is cabbage not chill?
I’m surprised that the modded stage 3 is valid for the speedrun, but idk what the rules of this specific category are.
From my understanding it uses the same format as the risk of resources races (lunars between stages banned, E8, laz wings, modded stage 3 etc.) with the only difference being random seed as opposed to set seed.
Love these commentary type vids :)
Also, Congrats
I actually dropped RoR2 for about a year and a half cuz no new updates (would really like to see balance changes or new alternate abilities for characters with ones that feel bad, like acrid and engi's left click abilities). It's actually from watching content creators like Woolie and Disputed that made me want to come back, and I'm starting my Eclipse grind finally. Really hope I can do Eclipse 8 on at least 1 character.
You should check out race on twitch or yt, one of the best e8 players and super knowledgeable. His vids and streams are some of the best resources for getting better at the game past monsoon
I hope you know that Hopoo Sold ROR IP to GearBox... So any update you expect....(copium) will be by Gearbox now...(creator of Borderlands 123) Hopoo is done for Ror2 forever.
@@yungchoc3476 I'm already subbed to Race but I almost never opt to watch him over some of the other content creators because (it could just be that I'm super unlucky and this is purely by chance) every single one of his runs that i've clicked on are Recycler runs and it feels like he's easy-moding the game. Like idk, the runs feel scripted. He sees a Recycler every run and I never see one in my own runs or other people's runs.
@@idkwatimdoingtbh Yeah, most of the runs *he uploads*. You have to remember he plays a fuckton and uploads only the best runs. He streams everything as well so I don't think he could be cheating in any way.
And this is just personal experience, but after I started absolutely full looting every run, I've gotten a recycler in a very significant portion of them. And Race is very much a full looter.
Also saying he's easy-moding is hilarious considering he plays with Umbral Mithrix without bonfire every single run. And I haven't played it myself but I would definitely say that mod is the opposite of easy mode, especially on Eclipse 8.
been watching your vids since i caught the ror2 bug but hadnt subbed o.O youre the man
uncut postcom woolie is my fav
😳
[OLD WR]
20 hours ago
lmao
very nice though!!! kind of crazy to watch this type of gameplay, i could never lol
Woolie at 18:39 you talk about youtube quality being worse than stream. UA-cam gives bitrate depending on the resolution of the video, so if you simply upload a 4K upscale the quality will improve even though pretty much nothing changed about it. Iirc even 1080p gets better bitrate if a 4K resolution is present.
That fart was my best spent 50k chump points
welp, world records been broken already. damn
Shoutout to Falltaco @ 1:00 in chat with his Parappa like devotion to the run
Essentially. Woolie is the best ROR2 player to ever live.
should have left the moment of realization at the end.
Insane run man. You can get sub 20 for sure if it all goes right. Lol looking forward to the day.
oh boi, its on, Woolie vs Cabbage
I love it - high risk, high reward.
i think it should have to be on total vanilla to be validated as world record. but it was a cool run, anyway.
Im not 100% sure abd havent finished the video, so he might say something thay completely contradicts this, but I think it might just be that the WR part here is a little misleading, because it's not a ror2 wr, but the gauntlet ror2 huntress wr. That has it's own category now on speedrun net and actually requires verification of the same mods and setup as the gauntlet package to be added to the leaderboard, but it's not meant to be compared against vanilla ror2 records.
1:08 falltaco called wr you owe him
20:45 Math doesn't check out, half radius gives forth area and eighth volume. So 75%.
Congrats man, you are a gamer fr
Thats interesting that Mithrix will cleanse Shattering but not Scorpion. Granted the latter says "permanently", but its a similar thing
Woolie is certifiably *GAMING*
This run will be covered by summoning salt some day in the future…
nice WR congrats
this is super fun to watch, please make more Mr.Streamer! :D
As soon as the community find a consistent pillar skip. There will be a summoning salt vid on this. 🎉
I'm coming for you Mr. Streamer
would love to see the uncut no comm video!
LETS FUGGIN GO!!!!
MR. Streamer was G A M I N!
Isn't fogbound lagoon a modded map? I mean is it allowed to be played on speedruns if it's not vanilla?
The gauntlet category has its own set of rules, and this map/mod is developed by someone on that team (I believe?), so they have included it in the mods needed/accepted to verify your runs in this category
can someone tell me why you use Strafe instead of Flurry ?
Is it just me or was Woolie playing Minecraft while recording this, I swear I hear a pillager and chests opening after 11:40
What map is that at 10:00?? I’ve never seen that
Fogbound Lagoon is a very popular modded stage for the game. The moderators allow a certain couple of mods for runs, since the stage doesn’t really affect runs at all. It’s stage 3, so it can’t really be grinded for, it doesn’t have any real benefits that are special to it, and it’s not really harder to navigate than other stage three stages
Classic Woolie W
He did the thing
Grats. well played.
To all the people commenting on the third stage, do you not think he knows the rules of the run hes playing if he's going for a world record? Make it make sense
Omg the one and only got the one and only record
Woolie gamed all over the eclipse
how do you edit in lunar coins? 8:23
What causes the big difference in time between the in-game and post-game timer? Is there a difference in how they track or parts the post-game omits that the in-game still actively tracks?
I believe the post-game screen removes the load times between stages (any black screens)
@@Wooliereasonable tbh
I enjoyed you putting commentary over this video but I wish the OG video was muted. Sometimes there was talking from both and it was hard to hear at times
I haven't played the stage three map you got that's underwater. Isn't it a modded map? Wouldn't that disqualify your run? I know it was mentioned at the start of the video that there's the mod that adds 5 minutes to the run, but that doesn't affect gameplay aside from infinite lives with a penalty for the gauntlet category. But the map counts as valid as well?
It's the fogbound lagoon mod by JaceDaDorito, it's allowed because the challenge runs have a similar format as the risk of resource races, which also uses it
are we not gonna talk about him playing on fogbound lagoon? no? alright
Stage 3 isnt even an official stage so how does this count?
gauntlet category
fogbound lagoon is part of the Gauntlet mod required for this speedrun category
Good job, very nice
there are 2 mods u might wanna try risky artifacts which give artifact of arrogance(mountain shrines are permenant) and zet aspects which makes it so elites aspects can be stacked and are reguler items not equipment
RNG still matters for a lot of things when Command is on.
certified wideBUNGA classic
CHAD; ADOPT ME WOOLIE
This is sick. You planning on doing records for other characters?
Arent there speed run categories normally? I dont understand the pillars skip talk, wouldnt there just be another category for those that do pillars?
10:10 wtf is that stage?😮
Map is a modded map called fogbound lagoon, the risk of resources guys adopted it into their races and considering this specific speed running category is an extension of that they kept it in. I personally love it map looks and plays great.
@@yungchoc3476 ty for the info
Its the morning in Australia
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First of all congratz!! 🎉🎉
Also what's that 3rd stage!? Never seen it ever :o
Same. I'd really like to know. I looked up the wiki and didn't see any mention of it
*"Fogbound Lagoon*
*Stygian Shallows"*
It's actually a modded map iirc
I was there live and will be there for sub20 live and for his firstborn live looking forward to it 😅😅😅❤❤❤
Well done, shame it was beaten so fast.
... what on earth was that Stage 3 map and where do I find it?
A mod ok. FOGBOUND LAGOON(GAUNTLET MOD)
Fogbound Lagoon is a very popular modded stage for the game. The moderators allow a certain couple of mods for runs, since the stage doesn’t really affect runs at all. It’s stage 3, so it can’t really be grinded for, it doesn’t have any real benefits that are special to it, and it’s not really harder to navigate than other stage three stages
Congratz 👏
Maybe I have just been away from the game for too long, but what map was stage 3? I don’t remember any underwater maps.
is that stage 3 a part of the mod pack? i’ve never seen it before
Would love the no commentary run
Woah, woolie speedruns?
Bro there is no way Woolie is human... are you kidding me? I can't even have a prayer of a chance of beating Vanilla Monsoon... and he just makes speedrunning eclipse 8 look like childs play? I mean isn't eclipse 8 like Monsoon to the power of 8?
Holy shit he got so good so fast
Modded maps, ie fogbound lagoon is allowed on gauntlet ruleset?
yes, it is a part of the gauntlet mod
is having a modded stage allowed? or modded client in general? if not, i'snt his 3rd stage a modded one?
is this still official run if you are using alternate map mod?
Yes it's a "Gauntlet" mod. A consensus among the Speedrunners I'm assuming.
I would love to watch this again without the commentary, my brain doesnt do well with multiple voices overlapping, still enjoyed tho :)
I WAS THERE
Good luck
9:37 no fucking way. The map is called distand ROOST? I always thought it was roots.
Mr Steamer, might i ask why you dont use Ballista right when he lands and stands in one spot for a second? Seems like a free hit, unless getting hit makes him dash earlier or something
He has giga-armor when he lands for about 2 seconds (80%+ dmg reduction)
NICE! Hell yes dude!
Fogbound Lagoon in an official run? Sorry, but I kind of doubt it is going to be accepted...
Fogbound lagoon is part of the gauntlet mod, and the speedrun is gonna be submitted in the gauntlet category, so it’s fine 🙂
The moderators for (ant least this category of) ror2 runs allow a certain couple of mods for runs, and fogbound lagoon is included since the stage doesn’t really affect runs at all. It’s stage 3, so it can’t really be grinded for, it doesn’t have any real benefits that are special to it, and it’s not really harder to navigate than other stage three stages
How did you have more than one blink charge?
Does the speedrun even count if you're playing modded? (He's playing with Fogbound Lagoon)
What is that 3rd stage? Didn't know the speedruns were on modded stages. It looks cool though
It's Fogbound lagoon. its a modded stage that gets added by the Gauntlet mod (the mod required for the category woojie got the WR in)
Fogbound Lagoon is a very popular modded stage for the game. The moderators allow a certain couple of mods for runs, since the stage doesn’t really affect runs at all. It’s stage 3, so it can’t really be grinded for, it doesn’t have any real benefits that are special to it, and it’s not really harder to navigate than other stage three stages
What an achievement!
The Loader
Us abandoned console players seethe at your void items😂
Hi Woolie, are Lunar items not viable in these runs for whatever reason? I'm curious why something like Purity wouldn't be viable - with Huntress' normal dash, you'd have a free pillar skip, and enough damage from ballista spam and any non-proc items to easily and safely clear most stuff. It'd be even better on Loader, but I know you're a huntress baller. Thanks!
Lunars are very viable for speed runs, but in these runs lunars are banned unless you purify them the same stage you pick it up.
Good job🎉