I had no idea that this was even a thing!!!! Just the amount of technical skill and precision that this requires as compared to purely digital audio manipulation blows my mind.
After having been a professional sound engineer for 25 years, I had a good laugh watching your video! (It almost shows how it should NOT be done, hahaha! :) )
As long as you get entertained, everything is good to me. I know that it wasn´t perfect, but it was just a short improvised video to give people which are not familiar with the "how to" a clue of how to do it. Maybe I will do another video and than also you can see, that I know what I´m doing... ;-)
***** I didn't write this to piss you off (I am sure you know what you are doing), but almost everything that could go wrong, went wrong! (Edit wasn't perfect, splicing tape was sticking out, tape loop got stuck in the Revox etc.). But I thought is was very funny to watch! By the way: beautiful Studer machine!
***** real good or not,, its fun to see back haha, i used to make the cuts allways in a 45 degree angle or less, gave a bit smoother transition, fun times with that old stuff :)
It's cool to watch the old-school ways of how some things were done before the easier and better methods that we have of doing them now were developed. :-)
That's a great video. Analog equipment is so much more fun that digital equipment. Anyone can make loop on a computer, but to do it on an open reel takes skill. Long live the reel to reel tape deck !!!!
LOL@ 7:03!!!!! You get respect from me for using an A77 to do this--not an easier B77 or PR99. Thanks for the posting! I have 3 A77's (1 HS and 2 Dolby models)--I had all but given up on using them and have been using my B77 and PR99 units. I will use my A77s now!
We have enjoyed how you work after the cut, without wind, hand in hand (A77) Die A816 ist natürlich für sowas optimal. Danke für das interessante Video.
Excellent video! Thanks. If the tape deck is off the floor, you can create tension by simply hanging a reel from the tape loop, and letting it dangle over the edge.
Hello from belgium ^^ "Magnetophone" remind me mi childhood (im from 1977) , i had 2 sony 4 tracks but loose it ...sad . i maked loops with tape and also cassete tape ! this old technology is fine ! easy to cut/repare/ etc. I worked severals year in Germany (essen ,baden baden ,koln ,frankfurt ) supermarket open until 11PM ^^ very good , a very wonderful country i love it ^^ PS: Haha your german accent is better than my Belgian accent in english lol !
Thank you for this video. i just picked up a Sony TC 200 and it is a very similar machine to your ReVox A77 so i will be able to accomplish the same. Cheers, friend!
That was a great video, by the way. The tape got crinkled is probably the most precise word, and wrinkled would be a close second, in a couple spots. The A77 isn't the most friendly machine to play back a tape loop, but you did a great job.
thanks you! i was dreaming about this when i pulled my Sony reel to reel out of the trash, good to know my dream in full affect! im going to layer 4 reels on one machine and displace the tension of the loop. 4 reels will hopefully make the loop longer and look badass. ; - ) ^^if that even makes any sense^^
This is so cool!! Love seeing vids like this. I can do this in a couple seconds on my Mac, but I'll bet it's a lot more rewarding to hold the crap in your hands and say "I made a tape loop!" Haha. Now I want a reel-to-reel.
Hello, I leave a question, maybe you can help me. Does the sound of a revox a77 depend 100% on its heads (head)? I'm seeing if I buy Revox a77 that apparently has changed heads and I have my doubts. Thank you!
Hello Ale! The tape heads are always extremely important for the sound of any tape recorder. With old devices it is normal for the tape heads to be ground in a little. If the cut is too strong, the recording and playback will lack the treble. Sound heads must not be ground in more than 3mm.
I love this! I have an A77 too, and other than listening to classical music on it (coz that just seems so right!), I'm looking for ideas on how to use it in my digital music creation
Is there a specific equation of tape speed and tape length to work out where to splice so your loop plays in a 12 bar in 4/4 time for example. I am planning on making some loops but will need them to always play in time when the splice goes over the head.
LOL, "Peeeeep!" instead of "beeep"! :-D Love that German accent, man! :-D Fun video (even with the disappointment that the pro recorder was too stupidly designed to play also)!
Wow great video! I always wondered how they did this sort of thing. Would you be able to make a track or a little mix or something so I can see how they make the layers of sound when recording because if I remember they used to use samples and cut them together
Owning a B 215 as well- great machine! Also, I have a PR 99 and a TELEFUNKEN M 28 Let's stay in touch: PORTRAIT - Aus dem Radioalltag von Jens Messtorff (ein Film von Danny Tristan)
I use open reel tapes since 1967 and I fiund that if you want a PERMANENT splice use cyano acrilate or "super glue" as the splicing tapes glue becomes gooey after some time and the splices jam up
I think I was the guy who requested an example of looping a tape with the A77. Great video! Thanks a lot! I really need that "splice block" or whatever it's called... do you know where I could buy one?
It was an original Revox accessory. I don't know if this is still sold today. It's best to ask Revox directly! You can also get the splicing block in metal here: www.thomann.de/de/atr_magnetics_splice_block_1_4_short.htm?offid=1&affid=585 The original ReVox splicing block was made of plastic but was very robust.
rsanchez7111 I have this splicing block since many years. It´s an original spare part vom ReVox. You can ask for example at ReVox in Germany or Switzerland to buy it. Alternative: look at ebay! You often can find there such parts! :-)
Du meine Güte "Bandschlaufenwiederholung" für Anfänger...fangt bloss nicht damit an ;-) aber okay für Alle die so was noch nie gesehen haben...übrigens seit über 20 Jahren gibt es Komputer auf welchen sowas viel besser geht ;-) Such-maschint mal: Echodelay, Les Paul oder auch The making of Dark side of the moon Money Loop. Übrigens das Basis Drums auf Totos Africa wurde so gemacht allerdings mit einer 2-Zoll Mehrspurbandmachine. Grüsse ein alter Tonmeister Hase
Actually, making a loop analog-style is just as easy as digital (well, not that easy, compared to point and click). I have both and albeit, analog is fun to mess around and is pretty straight-forward to learn because everything is limited in terms of what equipment is available to you.
50 metres / seconds ?!? Wow , mine i had builded for he a pitch bend lol ( a volum button 47kohm for the motor he work very fast or very slow like +/-60 or 70% absolutely not precis hahaha , i was younger and learnin electronic ^^ )
I had no idea that this was even a thing!!!! Just the amount of technical skill and precision that this requires as compared to purely digital audio manipulation blows my mind.
Love your language and your splicing speed too.
He speaks perfectly well and everyone can understand without the least problem.
Thank you for your work, it’s magical 🙏🇧🇪
After having been a professional sound engineer for 25 years, I had a good laugh watching your video!
(It almost shows how it should NOT be done, hahaha! :) )
As long as you get entertained, everything is good to me. I know that it wasn´t perfect, but it was just a short improvised video to give people which are not familiar with the "how to" a clue of how to do it. Maybe I will do another video and than also you can see, that I know what I´m doing... ;-)
***** I didn't write this to piss you off (I am sure you know what you are doing), but almost everything that could go wrong, went wrong! (Edit wasn't perfect, splicing tape was sticking out, tape loop got stuck in the Revox etc.).
But I thought is was very funny to watch!
By the way: beautiful Studer machine!
Ruud van Steenis
It´s ok Ruud - I don´t take that all here not to much serious. ;-) Anyway: I think I will do a new video in the next days! :-)
***** real good or not,, its fun to see back haha,
i used to make the cuts allways in a 45 degree angle or less, gave a bit smoother transition, fun times with that old stuff :)
It's cool to watch the old-school ways of how some things were done before the easier and better methods that we have of doing them now were developed. :-)
Easier? Yes. Better? No. Digital is a sampled facsimile of music, tape is analogous to the actual signal.
That's a great video. Analog equipment is so much more fun that digital equipment. Anyone can make loop on a computer, but to do it on an open reel takes skill. Long live the reel to reel tape deck !!!!
Sound like a cool guy! Liked the video, thanks
As someone with totally zero knowledge about Tape Recording, I must admit this looks and sounds exiting. You did a great job here!
LOL@ 7:03!!!!! You get respect from me for using an A77 to do this--not an easier B77 or PR99. Thanks for the posting! I have 3 A77's (1 HS and 2 Dolby models)--I had all but given up on using them and have been using my B77 and PR99 units. I will use my A77s now!
We have enjoyed how you work after the cut, without wind, hand in hand (A77)
Die A816 ist natürlich für sowas optimal.
Danke für das interessante Video.
:D wow, revox time producers was so patient ! the amount of time saved by the samplers is phenomenal ! thanks for sharing ;)
Excellent video! Thanks. If the tape deck is off the floor, you can create tension by simply hanging a reel from the tape loop, and letting it dangle over the edge.
Nevermind it is a great trick, thank you for sharing
Hello from belgium ^^ "Magnetophone" remind me mi childhood (im from 1977) , i had 2 sony 4 tracks but loose it ...sad .
i maked loops with tape and also cassete tape ! this old technology is fine ! easy to cut/repare/ etc.
I worked severals year in Germany (essen ,baden baden ,koln ,frankfurt ) supermarket open until 11PM ^^ very good , a very wonderful country i love it ^^
PS: Haha your german accent is better than my Belgian accent in english lol !
Fantastic video and great fun to watch....... you should be on TV!
Thank you for this video. i just picked up a Sony TC 200 and it is a very similar machine to your ReVox A77 so i will be able to accomplish the same. Cheers, friend!
thank you for a great and funny video :)
This is seriously impressive.
I don't know how i got to this vid, but I'm marveled. Is just "too easy" these days
Ha ha, yes that is indeed the word, very widely used in UK when things #@¥& up! Nice video.
Brilliant videos man! This really helps me as im doing an essay on tape for University. Thanks!!!
"ok forget it" 7:35 hahaha very funny! Very informative video, and obvious you're experienced and highly skilled .. cheers from the USA!
This is awesome. That is some sweet sweet gear!
Blowing my mind right now.
That was a great video, by the way. The tape got crinkled is probably the most precise word, and wrinkled would be a close second, in a couple spots. The A77 isn't the most friendly machine to play back a tape loop, but you did a great job.
Thank you Paul! I´ve never heard this word before. Good to know! ;-)
You're welcome.
Thanks ! Good video , I am going after 2 Revox A77 MKIII this afternoon.. Excited! :)
thanks you! i was dreaming about this when i pulled my Sony reel to reel out of the trash, good to know my dream in full affect! im going to layer 4 reels on one machine and displace the tension of the loop. 4 reels will hopefully make the loop longer and look badass. ; - )
^^if that even makes any sense^^
hahaha you're videos are awesome! you remind me of my friend Moritz! Thanks for uploading :)
This was very helpful. Thank you.
You're welcome! 😊👍
Watching this makes me epreciate modern technology more
Exactly 😂
I love your german accentt
Thank you! ;-)
Well i just subscribed to you channel! I like how you say the word "music" in the german style, "Musik"
Fascinating to watch
Thank you! :-)
Thanks mate! Good video
This is so cool!! Love seeing vids like this. I can do this in a couple seconds on my Mac, but I'll bet it's a lot more rewarding to hold the crap in your hands and say "I made a tape loop!" Haha. Now I want a reel-to-reel.
Hello, I leave a question, maybe you can help me. Does the sound of a revox a77 depend 100% on its heads (head)? I'm seeing if I buy Revox a77 that apparently has changed heads and I have my doubts. Thank you!
Hello Ale! The tape heads are always extremely important for the sound of any tape recorder. With old devices it is normal for the tape heads to be ground in a little. If the cut is too strong, the recording and playback will lack the treble. Sound heads must not be ground in more than 3mm.
I love this! I have an A77 too, and other than listening to classical music on it (coz that just seems so right!), I'm looking for ideas on how to use it in my digital music creation
Hello, lovely video ! Could you describe your preferred process for biasing tape on a deck ?
Since I am not a technician, I have never measured the A77 myself. You would have to ask a professional.
we love your video!
You sound like my music theory professor, Doctor Schmitz from München.
Greetings from Kansas City. Very helpful, Thank you!!
Is there a specific equation of tape speed and tape length to work out where to splice so your loop plays in a 12 bar in 4/4 time for example. I am planning on making some loops but will need them to always play in time when the splice goes over the head.
I think it depends on how long the loop should be. But usually the fastest speed is the best speed of course. 😉
cute as pie. great work!
You are the greatest!
Great video!
LOL, "Peeeeep!" instead of "beeep"! :-D Love that German accent, man! :-D Fun video (even with the disappointment that the pro recorder was too stupidly designed to play also)!
"Peeep" is just the German version we would spell it, cause we pronaunce it exactly like this! ;-)
Heheheh!
love this video!!!!
Thank you! :-)
That was informative and also you are adorable
Thanks a lot! :-)
Fantastic, thanks for sharing !
Wow great video! I always wondered how they did this sort of thing. Would you be able to make a track or a little mix or something so I can see how they make the layers of sound when recording because if I remember they used to use samples and cut them together
What about using the loop for using the A-77 as a tape echo ?
+DOPEDOGTOPDOG I did not try it untill now. But it sholud also be possible if there is enough tape-tension on it.
DOPEDOGTOPDOG my exact thoughts, I'm looking at a teac 4010 to use as a tape delay
Thanks for the entertaining video
Dear technikfan, could you give me an advice if this is also possible on a revox f36? I tried it but without success. What am I doing wrong?
very good explanation, thank you!
Very interesting! Sehr interessant!
great video!
Very cool video. The English word you wanted is "precise"; a German way to write how it's pronounced in English is "priesseiss".
Owning a B 215 as well- great machine!
Also, I have a PR 99 and a TELEFUNKEN M 28
Let's stay in touch: PORTRAIT - Aus dem Radioalltag von Jens Messtorff (ein Film von Danny Tristan)
very informative, thx
I use open reel tapes since 1967 and I fiund that if you want a PERMANENT splice use cyano acrilate or "super glue" as the splicing tapes glue becomes gooey after some time and the splices jam up
How about a video Gerhardus???
I think I was the guy who requested an example of looping a tape with the A77.
Great video! Thanks a lot!
I really need that "splice block" or whatever it's called... do you know where I could buy one?
This vid made me subscribe to your channel. Very cool! (And funny non-censored comments haha)
Awesome video :)
Thank you!
thats amazing
That’s cool!
Hello. Could you tell me where did you get your splicing block with push cutter? I couldn't find one with push cutter from that link. Thank you.
It was an original Revox accessory. I don't know if this is still sold today. It's best to ask Revox directly! You can also get the splicing block in metal here: www.thomann.de/de/atr_magnetics_splice_block_1_4_short.htm?offid=1&affid=585
The original ReVox splicing block was made of plastic but was very robust.
@@technikfans Ah OK! I'll find it, thank you!!!!!
@@galleryhaus2209 It's much cheaper on ebay.
Thank you for the lesson!
Nice work. :)
This was an awesome video. Sub
man,you're awesome:D
Excellent ! thanks :)
enjoyed that.
danke
Thanks for sharing. Btw where did you get that splicing block. Nice and easy to use. Thx again. Cool!!
rsanchez7111 I have this splicing block since many years. It´s an original spare part vom ReVox. You can ask for example at ReVox in Germany or Switzerland to buy it. Alternative: look at ebay! You often can find there such parts! :-)
awesome
Du meine Güte "Bandschlaufenwiederholung" für Anfänger...fangt bloss nicht damit an ;-) aber okay für Alle die so was noch nie gesehen haben...übrigens seit über 20 Jahren gibt es Komputer auf welchen sowas viel besser geht ;-)
Such-maschint mal: Echodelay, Les Paul oder auch The making of Dark side of the moon Money Loop. Übrigens das Basis Drums auf Totos Africa wurde so gemacht allerdings mit einer 2-Zoll Mehrspurbandmachine. Grüsse ein alter Tonmeister Hase
You can use cisor to cut hairs :-) That works perfectly and you can change the angle of cut.
You have a lot of Swiss audio masterpieces.Congratulations for your collection!Do you live in Switzerland?
Actually, making a loop analog-style is just as easy as digital (well, not that easy, compared to point and click). I have both and albeit, analog is fun to mess around and is pretty straight-forward to learn because everything is limited in terms of what equipment is available to you.
50 metres / seconds ?!? Wow , mine i had builded for he a pitch bend lol
( a volum button 47kohm for the motor he work very fast or very slow like +/-60 or 70% absolutely not precis hahaha , i was younger and learnin electronic ^^ )
No sorry. Its 15m per second... But this is also pretty fast. 😉👍
VEry nice video, dont care if you missed the splice, this is still a lost art.
super cool
GREAT!!!
С кассетаами раньше такое вытворял :)
Why do so many Revox RTR owners place them on the floor ?
If you want to cut the tape, this is the most comfortable way. 😉
Pause 0:51 as of today 10-18-2014 at 12:23pm I got that exact CD at a yardsale for a dollar
great!!
Fucking amazing, thank you!
funny guy thank you for this lesson
Nice work. But why were you so nervous? :-)
Thank you! Don´t know. I think I just want to do it right. ;-)
I'm curious whether there is any better option for putting tension on loop tapes than using one's hands :-)
The word you were looking for was 'precision', if you haven't since found it.
niiiice :D
kannst du die auch einstellen ??
Du meinst die Maschine technisch einmessen? Nein. Ich bin kein Techniker. 😉
@@technikfans ah ok schade
Bravo1
ein traum
Nice! Hahahahah! Yes Rocks!
@technikfans i was actually being sarcastic you're welcome to swear as much as you like, i was mocking the jerk who took issue with it
lmao, a leeetle beet fffaacked up -7:00
Anyone else hearing Christoph Waltz?
"Traident", nicht "trident". Precise ("Prießeis") ist präzise.
Danke! :-)