He should have four MVPs. After this season is over, he'll deserve his fifth. If he keeps playing like this for 5 more years - and there's no reason to think he won't - he'll be the best player in NBA history.
Based on his post game interviews, he seems burdened by his historical talent. Like he regrets working so hard to become great because it actually worked.
@@mimicar100 Serbia is closer culturally to russia than they are to italy or spain, yes geographically a lot of the balkans are southern European but the food/drinks/traditions are more eastern
Simply one of the greatest players of all time. It doesnt even matter where you rank him. All i want jokic to have is a legit shot to win a title again because thankfully he already has a historic season of dominance. He needs to be a threat every year because he is simply a basketball unicorn.
This guy is something to watch. I have never seen a player who can dominate the game offensively like this guy. I hope this guy can win the championship again this year but let's see what happens.
He's the only reason I'm interested in sports anymore. He's special. People still wanna deny just how amazing he is. There are/have been a lot of good players, but his abilities are like nothing I've ever quite seen. Everybody who says he's slow and unathletic forget: Slow is smooth, and smooth is fast, and he is the smoothest.
Exact opposite of LeBum. LeBum needs to tell the whole world that he does this through media when he in fact doesn't, but rather relies on fake narratives made by the media, the refs, and constant flopping.
I don't think so , even if he averages a 30 point triple double if they are not it least top 3 in the west he is not getting it , voter fatigue has kicked in and even if he is the best and most efficient player in the league I don't think he gets it . He needs to be basically leagues above the best players in the world who have better teams and will lead their conferences to the top to even have a chance to win an MVP , they won't give it to him otherwise .
@@blabla-fw9ix well you mentioned being the 3rd seed and im saying that even if they arent 3rd i think if they make it to the finals and he carries he might get the credit
@@RR-in7doMalone did that, he was bad in Denver as well. There was one game when he tried to put him in play and fortunately he whole crowd booed, so he didn't and Nuggets won the match. Actually, Jokić kept Malone his job as well
@@nnnp634 He wasn't particularly good in Denver, but Jokic still got him contracts. I think Malone has become a fairly good coach. His stagnate lineups used to drive me crazy, but he's more creative with them now. His inability to play young players more still costs us though. Look at Jay Huff in Memphis. We just had that guy and Saric is DNPs now.
Sorry for jumping in debate, Westbrook is a cutting knife, lightening speed, great energy, good shooting. Simply he was abandoned in NBA basketball which was a competition of who jump higher, who shoots better, no matter how many balls spent. With age he started fading away. Joker is from Serbia, we don't have loads of physically capable guys like US so all the available talent must be used to max and that you can get with Team play and smart coaching. Joker came from that school and he shares his know how. Great to see Westbrook revived, looks 10 years younger , fresh, useful. Wish him, Joker and the Team an amazing season. Go Nuggets, best wishes from Belgrade Serbia.
totally agree with you, Westbrook is so hated and underestimated in the NBA, but you don't score the most triple doubles in the history of the game by chance, or only thanks to athleticism... he's an all time great and I'm happy he can demonstrate it thanks to another legend like Jokic. My two favourite players in the same team!
He's better than many players people have in their top10 ever, just ridiculous how he controls the game and how much he makes the players around him better.
Take it back, Wilt and Russell dominated the 9 teams they played against in the infancy of basketball against competition that were part time player. They deserve to hog up the top 10 forever because of that and being pioneers. Whispers: He's already in there, they just don't know it.
Damn yall on dicc bad !! This shits crazy ! Imagine giving mfs credit for 15 years in the league already a. Fkn mvp before joining and mf saying they saved u! Yall mfs if wild af
here's the thing, the problem with west is that he's a very particular player, you have to play around his skillset, and joker is the perfect tool to unleash that skillset.
Jokic can unleash any skill set, lol. If anyone in the league is finding themselves with an odd skill set that doesn’t quite fit into a team, go to jokic, he’ll make it work.
@@relaxationmeditation499he is a great slasher, hyper athletic and good driver. we get it, you don’t understand the nba but that doesn’t mean westbrook is garbage. the man has an mvp for christ sakes, this revisionism is baffling.
@@shazaalala28 If Jordan plays today, is he still the MVP? He's not the same player as when he won the MVP. It's irrelevent today, he also was a massive stat padder.
People acting like Russ ain't a former MVP, 30ppg scorer, and 2x scoring champ is weird to me. Bron really ruined his reputation. He is great fit for Jokic because of his energy and slashing ability. Jokic's best gift to his teammates is he is selfless nature and truly is pass first. Russ looks appreciated and happy since he truly has a superstar teammate that allows his teammates to do what they do best.
I think Jokic is the best player in history in terms of what he did in his career and what was expected of him when he came to the league as a 41st pick and considering that he never had all star teammate. I mean from Lebron and Jordan it was expected to be all time greats. But nobody knew Jokic even in Serbia before he came to the NBA. For me Jokic and Jordan are the two best and players that i have ever watched play a game of basketball.
Russ is still a great player. He just needed the right situation, and the Nuggets are the right situation for him. He was not treated well by the last two teams he played for. The Nuggets have the right players and the right culture for him to thrive, and yes, Jokic is the main reason. Also, Jokic *did* pull strings behind the scenes to get Russ because he knew Russ would be great on the Nuggets. It's the only time he's done this, and it's worked out beautifully.
To the Lebron fans out there this is what it looks like when a great player is capable of making his teammates better. Amazing how Lebron is supposed to be an all around player, but when other good players join him their stats suffer. When you play with Lebron he eats first and then you get whatever scraps are left on the table. Jokic reminds me of Magic Johnson with his impact on making his teammates look better and getting them easy buckets.
bad take my brother. Some things just don’t fit and I totaly don’t know what Bron has to do with this. Russ is someone who needs certain volume and freedom in play. As LBJ does but Jokic is the opposite, besides that the Lakers Team back then wasn't a great fit for russ
@@CreatedP lebron wouldn’t have anything to do with it if the media would quit glazing him. FFS last year when the nuggets were up 3-0 on the lakers all that they could talk about was the what it means for lebrons legacy if the lakers could come back and win. Joker is the best player in the world right now and deserves to be treated as such.
i feel like russ is someone who jokic needs to bolster denver nuggets even further. someone who doesn't mind playing the bench, keep a competitive spirit from the bench. and also be able to perform when given the right role and opportunities. really hope the nuggets can go far in this year's playoffs. GO NUGGETS!
I was wondering a little bit if Jokic is going to slow down when they lost 2 games and then he just casually starts to put up even crazier numbers than ever before.
@@staomruel Russ is a 1st ballot hall of fame player. What are you talking about if Jokic can turn him into a productive player. You sound delusional. Why are you acting like he's some role player 😂. Russ has always played better as a starter than coming off the bench
I mean if SGA leads the thunder to the top seed there's no way in hell he shouldn't win mvp with the stats he's putting up, and Luka has been very inconsistent this season so far, even if he does improve it don't see him winning mvp.
@@motoure4584 he hasn’t played good enough so far bro. Plus, he’s having to sit out entire 4th quarters at times this year so he’s not gonna have the stats either way.
He was always a good defensive player, he can match up in strength with some Pivots, he is very strong, I saw him a couple of times defending players like Embiid and they found it hard to body him in the post
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6mhe’s one of the best post defenders in the league as a guard my guy lmao centers never really back him down for a reason bam adebayo didn’t back him down once last game
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m Westbrook is a stout defender, he's very strong at his position. Yes he can hold softer Forwards in the post, but you're right, that's not a desirable matchup. Westbrook took the reigns in OKC and let Defense become Secondary but Westbrook has always been a capable defender just wasn't applying himself during his Triple-Double years.
@@CashMNey reading is fundamental. I said like an AD. I didn’t say AD. Even though AD played over 70 games last season, it wouldn’t make sense with him specifically, but with another top 75 player it could probably work
Because Perkins started talking about racism and everyone started being worried about being called a racist if they don't vote for Embiid. Lets be honest, Embiid had great stats those year, but Jokic was better. There is also a theory that voters didn't want to give that MVP to Jokic because he still didnt have a ring.
Agree. Another finals mvp would do so much more to his legacy than another reg season mvp. He needs to be held to a way higher standard to win his 4th mvp.
Braun and Westbrook have given Denver additional cutters that they were missing last season. Now they can still score and get to the free throw line when they aren't knocking down three-point shots. Last season they had no one outside AG who could manufacture points in the paint when Jokic was doubled.
As someone who is not a Nugget's fan, I can honestly say that Jokic is the easiest player to root for! I'm not opposed to players declaring how good they think they are, but they HAVE to back it up. Jokic doesn't do any of that and continues to be exceptional beyond 99% of the league. I hope he and his team go far this season!
Nuggets fans got behind Westbrook since arrival... This Joker and Russ combo is beautiful... I seriously forgot how good Russ is/was.. This is a Testament
Something ppl need to understand more is that Jokic brings an insane amount of attention to him. Westbrook is not stupid (even thoigh sometimes it feels like he is), and so hes beginning to understand that the split second the entire universe is drawn to Jokic gives a player like Westbrook more than enough time to have a free run at the basket basically
I'm actually so happy though to see Westbrook do well, I think just being a BASKETBALL fan, doesn't matter what team you support you must be happy to see this after what he has went through...
If someone's interested, at the moment Jokic leads the league in RPG and APG, while there are 4 players who are averaging more PPG than him, and he's doing all of that while averaging 2.7 stocks per game and shooting FG 55.6% and 3pt 52.8% on 6-3 team.
I told people when Russ was being mentioned about getting traded to the nuggets, everybody said Russ is washed. I said Russ will thrive here in Denver, and so far so good, a player like joker is fun to watch because he makes the game easier for his team mates as-well, I really hope Russ has a resurgence now with the joker. Not saying Russ will be MVP Russ, but i think he can contribute alot to this team!!!
I’ve always liked Russell and I’ve always hated the disrespect the fans and the media have given him. Yes he’s had his ups and downs dealing with erratic play. But I want to see him succeed once again. Hopefully Jokic and the Nuggets can get that done for him and the team.
I been saying this for 2 years Nikola Jokic is the best player of this generation to play with. Hes fun to watch and a great playmaker fot me the best of this generation better than lebron.
7:34 The problem of these superstars is that they are overwhelmed at their passion for winning, that they try to micromanage thinking that it will fix the problems that they face, without noticing that they have no idea what they are doing.
But it is not how it went, they just talk to him about moves they want to make, and Jokic can say no or he can say I agree. It is not like they had better options.
Russ has had a rough ride for a good few years now, there are huge gaps in his game and to a large extent the league has left the style of play he excels at behind. If that's you, there is exactly one person on Earth you want to play with, this dude Jokic will get you good looks if you're 50 years old in a wheelchair.
Jokic got a beautiful ol school game mixed with the new school. Fundamentally sound and always gives maximum effort. Does anything in his power to win the game
Love your comparison of Timmy D and Jokic, they are both great not only because they play incredible, but they glue their teams together by not being drama queens.
You know that expression when someone is that good, we say they make it look easy. Well if that's true, Jokic is so good he makes things like he's not even there. Don't take my word for it, but I remember one press conference where professional, NBA player congratulated himself on stopping Jok. The journalist reminded him that Nikola scored 40+. What followed next was that characteristic Pikachu face and disbelief. I mean it's no wonder Nikola doesn't often pass the casual audience "eye test ". Levels above anyone else.
After his second MVP, I started really paying attention to Joker and he really is special. His unselfishness is easily his greatest intangible and probably his greatest asset. He makes playing with and coaching him a real joy. He’s gonna get Russ a ring.
He doesn't run fast, he doesn't jump high... There's no way for him to get seriously hurt, unless an opposing player tries that. BUT even that is highly unlikely after what Morris twin did.
Russ reminds me of Rodman on the court. And being surrounded by greatness (Like with Michael and Nikola) they can truly dedicate their full potential to enable the team victory.
Nah we gotta be real here. Westbrook has been solid the past seasons and literally had some of his most efficient seasons and literally his most efficient season(49%) only 2 years ago and last year 46%. Everybody was also saying the Nuggets werent contending after 3 games. That quieted down real quick. Jokic will make any player better. However lets give Westbrook the credit for it as well. He did a lot to become a solid role player from a star player. Hell even at the Lakers he shot solid percentages even with the clear wrong fit. He was just scapegoated. Murray also averages 26 points on solid percentages in the playoffs and has came up clutch time and time again for the Nuggets. He plays better than a lot players we'd consider better than Murray once playoffs hit comparable to a Jimmy Butler who hits like 15 points the regular season only to rack up 25+ to 35+ games in the playoffs. Last year dude played through injuries and still came up clutch multiple games with gamewinners on top of it. That being said, the Nuggets just have a 'good solid' starting lineup and barely a bench for the past years. In this regard its simply Jokic elevating them to contenders.
Those who dont watch denver basketball doesnt know Jokic loves cutters as much as spot up shooters. Thats why Russ thriving. No wonder he asked management specifically to get Wedtbrook.
Man before I even watch the video … Westbrook was great on the Rockets and the Wizards. He filled his role really well w the Clipps. Lakers was rough and he’s always had high highs and low lows but idk about save
I have A LOT to say about this topic, but don't have time for a big write up. Condensed version is they're BOTH helping each other, and Russ is actually showing a damn solid ball IQ. Russ is making the best entry passes Jokic has ever got. He's also learning Jokic tendencies and how to work off him very quickly, credit to Russ. Joker is straight up the greatest offensive engine ever, by a country mile. He can take ANY player and help them play to their strengths, iys unreal. But again, Russ only took like 4 games to really realize how damn good Jokic is, and is making great cuts, and is reading Jokers post-ups fantastic. It is genuinely hilarious the MONUMENTAL GAP between Jokic as a floor-raiser, and casuals and the media just saying it about lebron. But with Russ specifically, there's no ignoring it. They can't. They made it CRYSTAL CLEAR that it was all Russ fault, and Bron had nothing he could do with such a washed, terrible player. I know it's not true, but I wish Joker wanted Russ just to prove Bron is not who the media says he is, and never has been. Roleplayers and other stars have NEVER played better with Bron, and the completely opposite is true of Jokic, he takes g leaguers and makes them ASSETS. Now, lastly, I think Jokic wanted Russ for PACE. Joker ALWAYS wanted to RUN, push the pace, off every single rebound, but Murray and his roster always played slow. Man, its looking great so far, and hilarious how good russ looks.
This seems to be the first time that Russ is playing basketball without being burdened by performance, but rather being as useful as possible to the team. He is not selfish, and he is not under pressure. It gets results.
Westbrook my favorite player ever in the newer generation. He didn’t leave OKC took a team that literally was trash and dragged them to the playoffs the next season and averaged a triple double and won MVP! He isn’t a 🐍! He will fight for your team!
Nah, that's still Jordan and it will continue to be him until Jokic accomplishes close to what he did. Jokic has the potential to be top 5 by the end of his career.
He definitely makes the game easier for everybody I can give you that we love him because he is well rounded he can do it all with the ball and he plays the game the right way
@RR-in7do he'll have the most triple doubles than any other player in nba history playing with 0 all stars and making his team very competitive but HE CANT BE TOP 5 OR EVEN TOP 10 🤣🤣. Also 3 MVPS with one stolen at 29 yo I think you have a problem with this guy and if it was up to you he wouldn't even be in the discussion at all
@@Cobra-sv9uh I've been a huge nuggets fan for 30 years. Have a Jokic shirt on this very moment. But getting in the top 10 with a single championship just isn't realistic. Hakeem and Wilt are the only players with less than 3 championships widely viewed as being top 10. There aren't any top 10 players with less than 2 championships.
also all GOAT candidates were at least solid defence players. but he could very well be the best offensive player we have ever seen. that's a realistic debate.
I hope Russ keeps following Jokic's team first mentality, and I hope Murray is learning all he can from Russ who seems to be near the top for injury prevention measures for a driving guard. Hopefully this shows a few more vets with only a couple of seasons left why Jokic is a great teammate.
Jokic makes everyone better. We love Russ down here in Colorado! Anyone comparing Jamal Murray to LeBron, Brown, Lillard, Kyrie, etc, should never be allowed to talk ball ever again.
Finishing top 10 would be already a hell of acconplishment. He Need likes 3-4 more ringa tò be top 5 which Will not be the case playing in Denver. But of be finish with 300 triple double, another ring 4-5 MVP another finale MVP he defintly Will be a top10
@@geografia89 He's 29, he could get some better players in the future. I think his accomplishment of getting a ring without 1 additional all-star is a big thing. Nobody has ever done it. I think by the end of his career he hits the top 10 like you said. EDIT: Unfortunately, they punished the salary cap with tax so he will never get a team like some of the other players.
@@ItIsYouAreNotYour I'm just gonna say this and dissapear quickly: LeBron won the 2016 chip without an all star. Kyrie Irving weren't all stars yet. Kyrie Irving went on to be an all star in 2017 though. And for Kevin Love, although he did become an all star before 2016, wasn't an all star in 2016 before becoming an all star in 2017. Edit: Idk, some players have probably done it, but LeBron's was the first to come to mind.
Perkins was an all-time great center in the NBA. Definitely top 5. Also, he is an all-time great commentator. Definitely top 5. 😅😅😊 Also. He's a great comedian, top 5 of all time.😅😅😅😅
@@krysis54 no one on laker nation thought Russ was a good fit besides Russ Stan’s lmao I mean that’s pretty obvious. That’s actually embarrassing for your own fans to give u that treatment and he still shot that BS too. I remember watching that game
@@sosaraycharles358 go look up what the word DESPISE means. Lakers fans don't despise Russ, only LeBron fans do. There's a difference. Most lakers fans despise LeBron actually
Jokic, Giannis, and Luka needs to be marketed more. These are top three players in the league. I always thought Westbrook would be good off the bench especially if Denver add more bench pieces.
@@jarardx2312 Have you watched him in the last 5 years? He's nearly unplayable. Force in his day sure. Shooting % brutal, turnover rate brutal, and the team ends up almost always hating him.
LeBron has no accountability, always blames his teammates or his coach. Makes his teammates worse instead of better. And nobody loves LeBron as much as LeBron. Not even Nick Wright.
It's not even just that he's good at all of those things, it's that he is good at those things in the post and at the perimeter. One of the biggest differences between LeBron and Jokic as playmakers is that Jokic sets up his teammates a lot more in the post than Bron and Bron, while has a great post game, is running in traditional PG spots like the top of the 3 point line. If both Russ and LeBron are playing in the same spots, that's hard to manage - with Jokic, he is able to clear out the lane for Russell to make things happen because he can either GTFO when he attacks the rim, and rebound - when Russ is on the floor, nothing is getting taken away from Jokic' playstyle.
People really underlook what he accomplished during his second MVP when Aaron Gordon was the only NBA starter caliber teammate he played with. He put up insane numbers playing with guys who within the next year or 2 were either out of the league entirely(Forbes, Rivers, Campazzo, Howard, Cousins, Reed, Dozier) or had limited roles as backups on other teams (JaMychal, Monte, Barton, Bones, and Bol Bol). And he even beat Giannis and Embiid in their head to head matchups, plus even had a better defensive rating than both that year. The only reason Denver didn't have a better record was because they had a woeful 3-9 record in games without Jokic, not even counting games he left early from injury or ejection which they all lost also.
Nuggets fans aren't treating Russ like a piece of garbage like LA did, I bet that helps a bit.
I've thought about this a lot. He seems happy. And he has a well defined role. The Nuggets aren't going to bring in a James Harden out of nowhere
Lebron always have to have someone to blame from start of the season
Exactly. Lebron Fans Are Bad For Basketball. Look How They Doing DLo Now 🤦🏽♂️😂
Russ is what he has always been, a low IQ player who was never the alpha.
@@OFFICIALKB2FLYnah but this niqqa dlo not even trying tho
even if Jokic deserves another MVP, we already know that haters in the media are going to whine about it like there's no tomorrow
They’re crossing their fingers that a brotha steps up lol
He should have four MVPs. After this season is over, he'll deserve his fifth. If he keeps playing like this for 5 more years - and there's no reason to think he won't - he'll be the best player in NBA history.
@@NoahLindenso delusional 😂 he’s lucky to have 2 tbh
@@NoahLindenand I love how y’all just over look SGA.. jokic can have awards stolen from him but never steal anyone else’s 😂 delusional fans
Jokic owns your family @@iguesss
The best part about Jokic is that he's not a diva. He's a professional in all aspects of the sport.
Based on his post game interviews, he seems burdened by his historical talent. Like he regrets working so hard to become great because it actually worked.
Just normal eastern European persona.
@@marcolee7120 He is South European tho.
@@mimicar100 Serbia is closer culturally to russia than they are to italy or spain, yes geographically a lot of the balkans are southern European but the food/drinks/traditions are more eastern
@@aureus79 Serbia is more close to austria with the culture, food and traditions, than russia.
Kendrick Perkins hates jokic because he said it was easy to learn English
Savage!
Perk struggles more than Joker with english 😂
😂😂😂
Cause Perkins still can't speak it properly.
😂😂😂😂 perk has permanent DUH face
Simply one of the greatest players of all time. It doesnt even matter where you rank him. All i want jokic to have is a legit shot to win a title again because thankfully he already has a historic season of dominance. He needs to be a threat every year because he is simply a basketball unicorn.
This guy is something to watch. I have never seen a player who can dominate the game offensively like this guy. I hope this guy can win the championship again this year but let's see what happens.
He's the only reason I'm interested in sports anymore. He's special. People still wanna deny just how amazing he is. There are/have been a lot of good players, but his abilities are like nothing I've ever quite seen. Everybody who says he's slow and unathletic forget: Slow is smooth, and smooth is fast, and he is the smoothest.
@@canttakeanymore he overtook Giannis as my favorite player. I never thought that would happen.
Ur exaggerating bruh
Offensively jordan all day every day.
I doubt it Nuggets office are awful they don't deserve him. Sabotaged a player who may win a lot championships ez and even becoming the GOAT
Jokic is the true definition of making his teammates better!
Exact opposite of LeBum. LeBum needs to tell the whole world that he does this through media when he in fact doesn't, but rather relies on fake narratives made by the media, the refs, and constant flopping.
Joker will win his 4th MVP. Should be 5 straight
Wow
I don't think so , even if he averages a 30 point triple double if they are not it least top 3 in the west he is not getting it , voter fatigue has kicked in and even if he is the best and most efficient player in the league I don't think he gets it . He needs to be basically leagues above the best players in the world who have better teams and will lead their conferences to the top to even have a chance to win an MVP , they won't give it to him otherwise .
@@blabla-fw9ix if they can make it to the finals i think he could win
@@agentyeah What do the finals have to do with regular season MVP ?
@@blabla-fw9ix well you mentioned being the 3rd seed and im saying that even if they arent 3rd i think if they make it to the finals and he carries he might get the credit
Jokic got Bruce Brown, KCP, Murray and AG the bag, now he's helping Westbrook up his stock back up...
Mpj
Grant also
He kept Will Barton in the NBA. Soon as he left jokic, he was out of the league.
@@RR-in7doMalone did that, he was bad in Denver as well. There was one game when he tried to put him in play and fortunately he whole crowd booed, so he didn't and Nuggets won the match.
Actually, Jokić kept Malone his job as well
@@nnnp634 He wasn't particularly good in Denver, but Jokic still got him contracts. I think Malone has become a fairly good coach. His stagnate lineups used to drive me crazy, but he's more creative with them now. His inability to play young players more still costs us though. Look at Jay Huff in Memphis. We just had that guy and Saric is DNPs now.
Sorry for jumping in debate, Westbrook is a cutting knife, lightening speed, great energy, good shooting. Simply he was abandoned in NBA basketball which was a competition of who jump higher, who shoots better, no matter how many balls spent.
With age he started fading away.
Joker is from Serbia, we don't have loads of physically capable guys like US so all the available talent must be used to max and that you can get with Team play and smart coaching.
Joker came from that school and he shares his know how.
Great to see Westbrook revived, looks 10 years younger , fresh, useful. Wish him, Joker and the Team an amazing season.
Go Nuggets, best wishes from Belgrade Serbia.
Russ is stupid 0 BBIQ. bricklayer turnover machine idiot.
totally agree with you, Westbrook is so hated and underestimated in the NBA, but you don't score the most triple doubles in the history of the game by chance, or only thanks to athleticism... he's an all time great and I'm happy he can demonstrate it thanks to another legend like Jokic. My two favourite players in the same team!
He's better than many players people have in their top10 ever, just ridiculous how he controls the game and how much he makes the players around him better.
Take it back, Wilt and Russell dominated the 9 teams they played against in the infancy of basketball against competition that were part time player. They deserve to hog up the top 10 forever because of that and being pioneers.
Whispers: He's already in there, they just don't know it.
If Jokic turns 35 year old Russell Westbrook into a championship player, he might be the GOAT.
Hell no
goat? LMAO
Damn yall on dicc bad !! This shits crazy ! Imagine giving mfs credit for 15 years in the league already a. Fkn mvp before joining and mf saying they saved u! Yall mfs if wild af
The disrespect that Russell Westbrook gets is amazing
Michael Jordan will never be dethroned
here's the thing, the problem with west is that he's a very particular player, you have to play around his skillset, and joker is the perfect tool to unleash that skillset.
The problem with West is his basketball IQ is in the tens column. He makes poor decisions, can't shoot, and this won't continue.
Jokic can unleash any skill set, lol. If anyone in the league is finding themselves with an odd skill set that doesn’t quite fit into a team, go to jokic, he’ll make it work.
What skillset? Missed play ups and wide open jump shots?
@@relaxationmeditation499he is a great slasher, hyper athletic and good driver. we get it, you don’t understand the nba but that doesn’t mean westbrook is garbage. the man has an mvp for christ sakes, this revisionism is baffling.
@@shazaalala28 If Jordan plays today, is he still the MVP? He's not the same player as when he won the MVP. It's irrelevent today, he also was a massive stat padder.
People acting like Russ ain't a former MVP, 30ppg scorer, and 2x scoring champ is weird to me. Bron really ruined his reputation. He is great fit for Jokic because of his energy and slashing ability. Jokic's best gift to his teammates is he is selfless nature and truly is pass first. Russ looks appreciated and happy since he truly has a superstar teammate that allows his teammates to do what they do best.
I think Jokic is the best player in history in terms of what he did in his career and what was expected of him when he came to the league as a 41st pick and considering that he never had all star teammate. I mean from Lebron and Jordan it was expected to be all time greats. But nobody knew Jokic even in Serbia before he came to the NBA. For me Jokic and Jordan are the two best and players that i have ever watched play a game of basketball.
Russ is still a great player. He just needed the right situation, and the Nuggets are the right situation for him. He was not treated well by the last two teams he played for. The Nuggets have the right players and the right culture for him to thrive, and yes, Jokic is the main reason. Also, Jokic *did* pull strings behind the scenes to get Russ because he knew Russ would be great on the Nuggets. It's the only time he's done this, and it's worked out beautifully.
To the Lebron fans out there this is what it looks like when a great player is capable of making his teammates better. Amazing how Lebron is supposed to be an all around player, but when other good players join him their stats suffer. When you play with Lebron he eats first and then you get whatever scraps are left on the table.
Jokic reminds me of Magic Johnson with his impact on making his teammates look better and getting them easy buckets.
I started being a fan of Jokic because he's a fellow Eurobro, I keep being a fan because of his insane playmaking.
Westbrook debunks the lie of LeFraud making players around him better he made him worse, while Jokic makes players around him better indeed
holy gawk, stop riding that man’s meat
Tf lebron got to do with this. Westbrook didnt fit that roster, denver has shooters around him
bad take my brother. Some things just don’t fit and I totaly don’t know what Bron has to do with this. Russ is someone who needs certain volume and freedom in play. As LBJ does but Jokic is the opposite, besides that the Lakers Team back then wasn't a great fit for russ
@@CreatedP lebron wouldn’t have anything to do with it if the media would quit glazing him. FFS last year when the nuggets were up 3-0 on the lakers all that they could talk about was the what it means for lebrons legacy if the lakers could come back and win. Joker is the best player in the world right now and deserves to be treated as such.
@@eneac9 in lebrons case nothing fits 😂
i feel like russ is someone who jokic needs to bolster denver nuggets even further. someone who doesn't mind playing the bench, keep a competitive spirit from the bench. and also be able to perform when given the right role and opportunities. really hope the nuggets can go far in this year's playoffs. GO NUGGETS!
Russ has always been that guy, it’s just how the fans like him.
Every team mate of Russ loves him.
I was wondering a little bit if Jokic is going to slow down when they lost 2 games and then he just casually starts to put up even crazier numbers than ever before.
even when they were losing its not like he was playing poorly
5th mvp if we can overcome Klutch bribing and ESPN jockeys
This just proves Jokic is the best player of the past 5 years. Anyone who can turn Westbrook into a productive NBA player is a GOAT candidate.
He hasn't been great for a while, I'll agree on that, but don't act like he never produced.
Man was a walking triple-double for a stretch.
@@staomruel Russ is a 1st ballot hall of fame player. What are you talking about if Jokic can turn him into a productive player. You sound delusional. Why are you acting like he's some role player 😂. Russ has always played better as a starter than coming off the bench
@@jarardx2312 he needs the ball to be effective it's not decline he can't adapt.
😂😂😂😂 you sound ignorant af
Were you born 2 years ago? Stop commenting on anything basketball related. You are why society is failing.
Jokic is on pace to win what should be his 5th MVP this season but he won’t because the media has already decided it’ll go to Shai or Luka
I think he’ll still win it again if he keeps this up
Bro shai is averaging less points, half the rebounds and assists, on worse efficiency, no way it goes to shai
I mean if SGA leads the thunder to the top seed there's no way in hell he shouldn't win mvp with the stats he's putting up, and Luka has been very inconsistent this season so far, even if he does improve it don't see him winning mvp.
@@motoure4584 he hasn’t played good enough so far bro. Plus, he’s having to sit out entire 4th quarters at times this year so he’s not gonna have the stats either way.
His first mvp he didn't deserve but he deserved embiid's so he has the correct amount of mvps.
Jokic G.O.A.T !!
It's Westbrooks defence is what's been the most impressive
He was actually known for his defense during his college years.
He was always a good defensive player, he can match up in strength with some Pivots, he is very strong, I saw him a couple of times defending players like Embiid and they found it hard to body him in the post
@@mcmerry2846I wouldn’t want Russ guarding forwards and centers just guards.
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6mhe’s one of the best post defenders in the league as a guard my guy lmao centers never really back him down for a reason bam adebayo didn’t back him down once last game
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m Westbrook is a stout defender, he's very strong at his position. Yes he can hold softer Forwards in the post, but you're right, that's not a desirable matchup. Westbrook took the reigns in OKC and let Defense become Secondary but Westbrook has always been a capable defender just wasn't applying himself during his Triple-Double years.
It is so refreshing to see a bloke like Jokic being successful. God 🙌
The true basketball greats make their teammates better.
Finally Russ can do what Russ can do best is cutting to the basket and score. Bron should‘ve played like this with him like Jokic is doing.
Westbrook has a ton of energy and him cutting into the basket with joker on the high post ist just a great match.
Imagine Jokic playing with an alltime top 75 player in his prime like an AD
Imagine if the Nuggets got the amount of free throws that the Refs give the Lakers. They would never lose a game.
They would be on the floor together about 40% of the season 😂
@@CashMNey reading is fundamental. I said like an AD. I didn’t say AD. Even though AD played over 70 games last season, it wouldn’t make sense with him specifically, but with another top 75 player it could probably work
@@LargeDude2023 a player who is there 40% is like an AD
@ I said a top 75 player in his prime. Doesn’t have to be AD. Any top 75 player in his prime with Jokic would be insane
I don't know how Embid won the MVP instead of Jokic that year.
Because Perkins started talking about racism and everyone started being worried about being called a racist if they don't vote for Embiid. Lets be honest, Embiid had great stats those year, but Jokic was better. There is also a theory that voters didn't want to give that MVP to Jokic because he still didnt have a ring.
Well at least Jokic got the last laugh that year by winning the Finals MVP which will have more value than any MVP trophy could ever have.
Because he was whining all year about it
It could’ve been the first player with 5 straights MVPs
Embiid was being a crybaby and Kendrick Perkins was using racism to help give Embiid his MVP award
Joker is different!! There is no one like him. Absolutely nothing is a close. There are a lot of kings but when a unicorn walk, kings start looking,
I was hoping that a jokic video was next, he got Bruce Brown paid, KCP paid, I wonder how Russ will benefit from this
You forget Zeke Naji getting paid too 😬😬😬
Ring
Russ could be sixth man of the year if he keeps playing like this.
He’s about to get Christian Braun paid too.
He extended coach job and cemented it. He got Barton usable for trade. Barton got paid too.
I don't want him to win another MVP. Can we get another Finals MVP instead? 😂
what about both
Agree. Another finals mvp would do so much more to his legacy than another reg season mvp. He needs to be held to a way higher standard to win his 4th mvp.
When he won finals MVP they stole his MVP for the regular season, it's about time to get both.
@@babon9697 that idea held him from winning his deserved mvp. Its simple, atandard should be the same for everyone at every time.
Braun and Westbrook have given Denver additional cutters that they were missing last season. Now they can still score and get to the free throw line when they aren't knocking down three-point shots. Last season they had no one outside AG who could manufacture points in the paint when Jokic was doubled.
Jokic is hands down the best player in the NBA. He's a cheat code offensively. Keeps me watching this version of the NBA
As someone who is not a Nugget's fan, I can honestly say that Jokic is the easiest player to root for! I'm not opposed to players declaring how good they think they are, but they HAVE to back it up. Jokic doesn't do any of that and continues to be exceptional beyond 99% of the league. I hope he and his team go far this season!
The Nuggets organization wasting Jokic’s prime like that is criminal.
Nuggets fans got behind Westbrook since arrival... This Joker and Russ combo is beautiful... I seriously forgot how good Russ is/was.. This is a Testament
Something ppl need to understand more is that Jokic brings an insane amount of attention to him. Westbrook is not stupid (even thoigh sometimes it feels like he is), and so hes beginning to understand that the split second the entire universe is drawn to Jokic gives a player like Westbrook more than enough time to have a free run at the basket basically
I'm actually so happy though to see Westbrook do well, I think just being a BASKETBALL fan, doesn't matter what team you support you must be happy to see this after what he has went through...
and all this comes from literally just playing when Jokic plays...
Yes, we want THIS Westbrook. He will be a X factor for the Nuggets.
If someone's interested, at the moment Jokic leads the league in RPG and APG, while there are 4 players who are averaging more PPG than him, and he's doing all of that while averaging 2.7 stocks per game and shooting FG 55.6% and 3pt 52.8% on 6-3 team.
Crazy stats but still unless he is a top seed in the west they will not give him another MVP .
Every time I think I can't get surprised by how good Jokic is, somehow he gets even better. What a player.
I told people when Russ was being mentioned about getting traded to the nuggets, everybody said Russ is washed. I said Russ will thrive here in Denver, and so far so good, a player like joker is fun to watch because he makes the game easier for his team mates as-well, I really hope Russ has a resurgence now with the joker. Not saying Russ will be MVP Russ, but i think he can contribute alot to this team!!!
Jokic is a leader, he lifts people up, he doesn't bring them down.
Great thing about Jokic. He doesn't care if he scores 30 pts or 3 pts. It's about winning basketball
I’ve always liked Russell and I’ve always hated the disrespect the fans and the media have given him. Yes he’s had his ups and downs dealing with erratic play. But I want to see him succeed once again. Hopefully Jokic and the Nuggets can get that done for him and the team.
He comes from culture a that is not deeply individualistic...his personality and style of play are indicative of it.
Can’t just give Jokic props for Russ’ success he doing his thing as is Jokic
I been saying this for 2 years Nikola Jokic is the best player of this generation to play with. Hes fun to watch and a great playmaker fot me the best of this generation better than lebron.
7:34 The problem of these superstars is that they are overwhelmed at their passion for winning, that they try to micromanage thinking that it will fix the problems that they face, without noticing that they have no idea what they are doing.
As a nuggets fan im happy we got russ for one simple reason. Jokic requested it
But it is not how it went, they just talk to him about moves they want to make, and Jokic can say no or he can say I agree. It is not like they had better options.
@Zemlja_je_ravna well yeah but jokic specifically requested russell himself
You will regret it
Russ has had a rough ride for a good few years now, there are huge gaps in his game and to a large extent the league has left the style of play he excels at behind.
If that's you, there is exactly one person on Earth you want to play with, this dude Jokic will get you good looks if you're 50 years old in a wheelchair.
Jokic got a beautiful ol school game mixed with the new school. Fundamentally sound and always gives maximum effort.
Does anything in his power to win the game
Love your comparison of Timmy D and Jokic, they are both great not only because they play incredible, but they glue their teams together by not being drama queens.
You know that expression when someone is that good, we say they make it look easy. Well if that's true, Jokic is so good he makes things like he's not even there. Don't take my word for it, but I remember one press conference where professional, NBA player congratulated himself on stopping Jok. The journalist reminded him that Nikola scored 40+. What followed next was that characteristic Pikachu face and disbelief. I mean it's no wonder Nikola doesn't often pass the casual audience "eye test ". Levels above anyone else.
After his second MVP, I started really paying attention to Joker and he really is special. His unselfishness is easily his greatest intangible and probably his greatest asset. He makes playing with and coaching him a real joy. He’s gonna get Russ a ring.
Here’s what scary. Joker doesn’t have to use steroids and will be good until he’s 45.
He doesn't run fast, he doesn't jump high... There's no way for him to get seriously hurt, unless an opposing player tries that. BUT even that is highly unlikely after what Morris twin did.
Russ reminds me of Rodman on the court. And being surrounded by greatness (Like with Michael and Nikola) they can truly dedicate their full potential to enable the team victory.
Nah we gotta be real here. Westbrook has been solid the past seasons and literally had some of his most efficient seasons and literally his most efficient season(49%) only 2 years ago and last year 46%.
Everybody was also saying the Nuggets werent contending after 3 games. That quieted down real quick. Jokic will make any player better. However lets give Westbrook the credit for it as well. He did a lot to become a solid role player from a star player. Hell even at the Lakers he shot solid percentages even with the clear wrong fit. He was just scapegoated.
Murray also averages 26 points on solid percentages in the playoffs and has came up clutch time and time again for the Nuggets. He plays better than a lot players we'd consider better than Murray once playoffs hit comparable to a Jimmy Butler who hits like 15 points the regular season only to rack up 25+ to 35+ games in the playoffs.
Last year dude played through injuries and still came up clutch multiple games with gamewinners on top of it.
That being said, the Nuggets just have a 'good solid' starting lineup and barely a bench for the past years. In this regard its simply Jokic elevating them to contenders.
Those who dont watch denver basketball doesnt know Jokic loves cutters as much as spot up shooters. Thats why Russ thriving. No wonder he asked management specifically to get Wedtbrook.
Man before I even watch the video … Westbrook was great on the Rockets and the Wizards. He filled his role really well w the Clipps. Lakers was rough and he’s always had high highs and low lows but idk about save
Russ didn't need saving. He needed to be with a competent franchise.
I have A LOT to say about this topic, but don't have time for a big write up. Condensed version is they're BOTH helping each other, and Russ is actually showing a damn solid ball IQ. Russ is making the best entry passes Jokic has ever got. He's also learning Jokic tendencies and how to work off him very quickly, credit to Russ.
Joker is straight up the greatest offensive engine ever, by a country mile. He can take ANY player and help them play to their strengths, iys unreal. But again, Russ only took like 4 games to really realize how damn good Jokic is, and is making great cuts, and is reading Jokers post-ups fantastic. It is genuinely hilarious the MONUMENTAL GAP between Jokic as a floor-raiser, and casuals and the media just saying it about lebron. But with Russ specifically, there's no ignoring it. They can't. They made it CRYSTAL CLEAR that it was all Russ fault, and Bron had nothing he could do with such a washed, terrible player. I know it's not true, but I wish Joker wanted Russ just to prove Bron is not who the media says he is, and never has been. Roleplayers and other stars have NEVER played better with Bron, and the completely opposite is true of Jokic, he takes g leaguers and makes them ASSETS.
Now, lastly, I think Jokic wanted Russ for PACE. Joker ALWAYS wanted to RUN, push the pace, off every single rebound, but Murray and his roster always played slow. Man, its looking great so far, and hilarious how good russ looks.
This seems to be the first time that Russ is playing basketball without being burdened by performance, but rather being as useful as possible to the team. He is not selfish, and he is not under pressure. It gets results.
Smh I can’t tell you how low-IQ ball players (at the park/pickup) are when it comes to something as simple as the idea of an entry pass.
That entry pass to Joker, cutting and D are benefiting Nuggets the most, that's all Russ have to do and Nuggets will be OK when Brodie is on the floor
Hey, I really appreciate you not doing a long write-up. I mean, who has the time these days😳🤣😂😁
Westbrook my favorite player ever in the newer generation. He didn’t leave OKC took a team that literally was trash and dragged them to the playoffs the next season and averaged a triple double and won MVP! He isn’t a 🐍! He will fight for your team!
Playing with Nikola is easy if you know how to play the game, playing with nikola if you don’t know what to do is like asking a fish to sing.
This time i think westbrook will get his 1st NBA Championship. If he keeps this momentum up with Jokic.
Greatest player to ever played.
Nah, that's still Jordan and it will continue to be him until Jokic accomplishes close to what he did. Jokic has the potential to be top 5 by the end of his career.
@@IDF-Volunteer420 I said greatest player not most accomplished.
@@UlyssesVillamin Yes, MJ is still both. For now.
@ To the casuals, yes, but to the real bball minds, its a guy from Sombor.
@@UlyssesVillaminHuh??
He definitely makes the game easier for everybody I can give you that we love him because he is well rounded he can do it all with the ball and he plays the game the right way
A true leader. He'll eventually be put in the top 5 or even GOAT debate.
He's going to need at least 3 titles to be in that top 5 discussion. At least 2 to be in the top 10 discussion
@RR-in7do he'll have the most triple doubles than any other player in nba history playing with 0 all stars and making his team very competitive but HE CANT BE TOP 5 OR EVEN TOP 10 🤣🤣. Also 3 MVPS with one stolen at 29 yo
I think you have a problem with this guy and if it was up to you he wouldn't even be in the discussion at all
@@Cobra-sv9uh I've been a huge nuggets fan for 30 years. Have a Jokic shirt on this very moment. But getting in the top 10 with a single championship just isn't realistic. Hakeem and Wilt are the only players with less than 3 championships widely viewed as being top 10. There aren't any top 10 players with less than 2 championships.
also all GOAT candidates were at least solid defence players.
but he could very well be the best offensive player we have ever seen. that's a realistic debate.
@@mygoogleacount Curry is arguably top 10 now and isn't a solid defender
Thanks for your insight.
Keep up those memes in the middle 🤣
3:56 - bruh u wrong hitting em with the snoop meme 😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
That got me rolling lmfao
Bruh ts was on point 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nah facts yall how yall doing
That got me to fr 😅
I hope Russ keeps following Jokic's team first mentality, and I hope Murray is learning all he can from Russ who seems to be near the top for injury prevention measures for a driving guard.
Hopefully this shows a few more vets with only a couple of seasons left why Jokic is a great teammate.
these edits are gold 😂😂
Jokic makes everyone better. We love Russ down here in Colorado!
Anyone comparing Jamal Murray to LeBron, Brown, Lillard, Kyrie, etc, should never be allowed to talk ball ever again.
This is why he's the MVP again. He's made Russ look like an actual NBA player
Russ is a future hall of famer clown....yall hate LeBron and his fans yet actually just like them...a bunch of bozos
Ngl i love ppl having Westbrook back.... Hes one of my favorite players. If he had a pure shot he probably would be in top 10 goat convo
This is just a super upgrade from the realionship he had in OKC with Adam's.
Yup
Jokic need 2 shooters and 2 slashers and you got a team.
Jokic actually has the impact on his teammates that lebron fans have convinced themselves lebron does.
Jokic going down top 5, unbeatable. Maybe top 2 and if he does it 15 more years and wins a few chips, number 1
Relax, that's quite some glazing. Be rational so you can be taken seriously.
Finishing top 10 would be already a hell of acconplishment. He Need likes 3-4 more ringa tò be top 5 which Will not be the case playing in Denver. But of be finish with 300 triple double, another ring 4-5 MVP another finale MVP he defintly Will be a top10
@@geografia89 He's 29, he could get some better players in the future. I think his accomplishment of getting a ring without 1 additional all-star is a big thing. Nobody has ever done it. I think by the end of his career he hits the top 10 like you said.
EDIT: Unfortunately, they punished the salary cap with tax so he will never get a team like some of the other players.
@@ItIsYouAreNotYour I'm just gonna say this and dissapear quickly: LeBron won the 2016 chip without an all star. Kyrie Irving weren't all stars yet. Kyrie Irving went on to be an all star in 2017 though. And for Kevin Love, although he did become an all star before 2016, wasn't an all star in 2016 before becoming an all star in 2017.
Edit: Idk, some players have probably done it, but LeBron's was the first to come to mind.
@@RandomGuy-h2v Love was AS before, same as Thorpe for Hakeem in 94 - but no player, except Jok won it with no All Star players at all!
Perkins was an all-time great center in the NBA. Definitely top 5. Also, he is an all-time great commentator. Definitely top 5. 😅😅😊 Also. He's a great comedian, top 5 of all time.😅😅😅😅
Lakers fans don't despise Russ, LeBron fans do, there's a difference
Edit: please go look up the word despise before responding please
Uhh didn’t the whole home arena scream “nooooo” when he was wide open for a 3 at LA? 🤣
@sosaraycharles358 knowing someone isn't a great shooter and despising someone are 2 totally different things...
@@krysis54 no one on laker nation thought Russ was a good fit besides Russ Stan’s lmao I mean that’s pretty obvious. That’s actually embarrassing for your own fans to give u that treatment and he still shot that BS too. I remember watching that game
@@sosaraycharles358 go look up what the word DESPISE means.
Lakers fans don't despise Russ, only LeBron fans do. There's a difference. Most lakers fans despise LeBron actually
The lakers instantly got better without Russ and made the wcf ..
4:55 yes regular season but elite in the playoffs
the curse of making roleplayers look good is gonna make them expensive in the long run
then roleplayers who took the money from the other teams looks nerfed. 😂
So true: Bruce Brown, Gary Harris, Jerami grant, and so many others I can’t remember😭
@@HowieDesch-xz1wlMonte Morris. Will Barton (out of the league)
Jokic, Giannis, and Luka needs to be marketed more. These are top three players in the league. I always thought Westbrook would be good off the bench especially if Denver add more bench pieces.
@@futureDreamer4 why do you have Infernape from Pokémon as your PFP?
If he gets Westbrick a ring Joker will be the best player of all time in any sport, ever.
You're delusional. He'll never be close to being the best player of all time on any sport
@ it’s a joke about how bad westbrick is. Calm down.
@edelmantoamendola He's so bad yet he's a first ballot hall of famer lol
@@jarardx2312 Have you watched him in the last 5 years? He's nearly unplayable. Force in his day sure. Shooting % brutal, turnover rate brutal, and the team ends up almost always hating him.
I’m a Laker fan and I loved it when Westbrook was on the team, they just didn’t know how to use him.
5:25 imagine lebron saying this? i cant.
LeBron has no accountability, always blames his teammates or his coach. Makes his teammates worse instead of better. And nobody loves LeBron as much as LeBron. Not even Nick Wright.
He's definitely winning mvp. Who is even close?
People are just overreacting. They tend to blame Russ, but Russ always made it work in any team he was on.
It's not even just that he's good at all of those things, it's that he is good at those things in the post and at the perimeter. One of the biggest differences between LeBron and Jokic as playmakers is that Jokic sets up his teammates a lot more in the post than Bron and Bron, while has a great post game, is running in traditional PG spots like the top of the 3 point line. If both Russ and LeBron are playing in the same spots, that's hard to manage - with Jokic, he is able to clear out the lane for Russell to make things happen because he can either GTFO when he attacks the rim, and rebound - when Russ is on the floor, nothing is getting taken away from Jokic' playstyle.
Denver is Russell Westbrook's happy place. It will also bring him his first title.
People really underlook what he accomplished during his second MVP when Aaron Gordon was the only NBA starter caliber teammate he played with. He put up insane numbers playing with guys who within the next year or 2 were either out of the league entirely(Forbes, Rivers, Campazzo, Howard, Cousins, Reed, Dozier) or had limited roles as backups on other teams (JaMychal, Monte, Barton, Bones, and Bol Bol). And he even beat Giannis and Embiid in their head to head matchups, plus even had a better defensive rating than both that year. The only reason Denver didn't have a better record was because they had a woeful 3-9 record in games without Jokic, not even counting games he left early from injury or ejection which they all lost also.
Westbrook playing well won’t last long, when it matters he’ll go back to being Westbrick.
I would love to see Jokic bring Westbrook back to glory. Westbrook cool 😎🙏
Jokic will win the MVP because he 100% deserves it. The other contenders for MVP don't have the stats and or have too much help.