Going from Dublin Conolly to Dublin Heuston with Irish Rail
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- Опубліковано 5 лют 2025
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This feels like a big milestone on the channel, making a video outside of the United Kingdom . It was such a joy to get my first ever train ride with Irish Rail
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As far as I know, you can buy a direct ticket from Connolly to Heuston, but it might not be programmed into the ticket machines, in which case you'd have to buy the ticket in the ticket office.
I once did Docklands to Connolly (which are about 300m apart), which required a change at Drumcondra. I asked for the ticket at the ticket office, and the person told me "that ticket doesn't exist". I said "Yes it does, here's the route code" (I had someone on the inside find out for me in advance). They entered the code in their machine, and said "Oh, you're right. They never tell us these things."
The other way you should be able to do it is to tap in with a Leap card.
At least I'll know that for next time.
Broombridge for the change - Docklands trains don't serve Drumcondra.
The outward train did indeed go through the Phoenix Park tunnel. The place where it stopped to make way for the other train was Platform 10, Heuston. That platform is well away from the other platforms and I don't even know how to get to it. I don't think it is used much. I often pass the station on the bus and I've never seen anyone on Platform 10.
@@johnkilcullen Yes. To get to platform 10, you have to follow the road between Heuston and the Liffey all the way along the side of the station building, all the way past the car park, past various admin buildings, and eventually there's a roundabout that connects to it. It's easily 500m from the main station building. There's a suggestion that it could be renamed "Heuston West" to allow connection with DART+ trains from Connolly (via a long walk), with a second platform for trains in the other direction.
Where you stopped at the signal after the tunnel was platform 10 of Heuston Station, not in regular service, but the door opening sound chimed so you couldve hoped off there 😂
I didn't know that actually.
In Dublin we use the leap card for all public transport it costs five euros and load with funds to cover your travel it costs mainly two euros for 90 minutes hop on and off as you need simple bus rail tram 👍
I've heard of them before, reminds me of the oyster cards in London.
@@scottishtrainspotter7209 Except lead cards are national and accepted on basically every government run transport.
I didn't even know you could get to and from either station by train alone.....
I was on their website while planning it, they only do that routes on weekdays, never really a thing on weekends.
They reopened the phoenix park tunnel a couple of years ago for passenger trains. Where before it just used for moving trains around from inchicore
@@alanfairbrother890 Never knew that.
@@scottishtrainspotter7209 .en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Park_Tunnel
@scottishtrainspotter7209 Heuston station was also used in the film, the train robbers , with Sean connary and Donald Sutherland.
Living in Manchester U.K. 24 years, I have been most impressed by Irish Rail’s trains when travelling home to family in Ireland on Irish Ferries SailRail via Holyhead, as I have friends elsewhere in Dublin and I also use the DART as well as the LUAS trams (which are better than the Metrolink trams here in Manchester) and are certainly better than the U.K.’s trains - I am hoping to see an extension of the Docklands - M3 Parkway line to Navan very soon, as it’s way better than Bus Éireann coaches - the only thing that is missing is a high speed rail tunnel under the Irish Sea from Holyhead to Dublin that would make travelling so much easier
I've got another video on the Dublin Luas to be uploaded very soon.
Or you could fly. Flights are cheaper then the boat
08:12 you were joining the mainline out of Heuston, hence the signal clearance required. You could have made it a "pointless journey" trip by taking the LUAS to Connolly and completing the loop.
TBH, it was just for fun.
You should have used a Leap Card, and it would have costed you €2 for the trip. The Leap Card is the Irish smart card for travel on public transport in Dublin and other parts of Ireland.
I wish I did, I wasn't sour where to get them.
@scottishtrainspotter7209 they are available at most newsagents, especially ones near train stations. However, there's a one off charge for the card (but then you get cheaper fares), hence them having a special tourist version that is for unlimited (non intercity) travel for specific time periods.
I'm surprised no one has mentioned (yet), but there is a sort of loop line* connecting the two stations via a tunnel under Phoenix Park. To be fair though, it's kind of moot, given that as far as I'm aware, the line, or 'road', or whatever the correct term is, is only used by passenger trains (carrying passengers) very, _very_ occasionally for match specials for certain fixtures at Croke Park; I have a feeling as well that trains for rail enthusiasts have been put on the route, but I'm not going to swear to it! (Actually, I thought this video was going to be about just such a run!)
*Not to be confused with what Irish Rail/Iarnród Eireann staff _call_ 'the Loop Line', but which isn't, strictly speaking, one (afai aware): the one connecting Connolly to Tara St. and Pearse Stations, by way of a viaduct through the City Centre, over the River Liffey which carries DART trains, and Mainline trains down the East Coast, terminating at the port of Rosslare, near the town of Wexford. (Did I learn this from one of _your_ videos???!)
Looks like you've learned something today.
This video is through the Phoenix Park tunnel. It's an half hourly service from Hazelhatch through to Grand Canal Dock and of course half hourly with the journey in reverse.
At the moment it is only a weekday service, but that's likely to change by the end of this year. This was hinted at by the Irish Rail CEO when speaking about the opening of Kishoge Station last year.
December is the European timetable change so it would likely be announced in advance of this if it's going to happen this year.
@@scottishtrainspotter7209 ↑↑ Not half as much as I should have, it would seem ↑↑
Oh dear! My hands are up!🫣😔 Feeling a little stupid, now!🤤 Thanks for putting me straight, though...
A teacher said to me, many ( _many!_ ) years ago, " 'Mister' Hoyt, you're a 'smart enough' young fella - you might actually pass a few exams if you would just take the time to _READ the question,_ instead of just steaming in there and sicking up whatever's in your head!" He was obviously right, this being an analagous situation - everything I needed was right here in the video! Particularly the part where @scottishtrainspotter was examining/showing the route~map, and a few minutes later, at 7:05, when the train actually _enters the tunnel!_
In my defence (or maybe I'm just doubling down on my ignorance?!), I _think_ I'm correct in saying that the situation I described _is_ the one that prevailed prior to 2016 when they re~opened the old platform(s?) at Grand Canal Dock, allowing passenger services to access that whole Drumcondra/Cabra loop? Unfortunately, disabilities mean that I've barely used the trains in recent years, and while I certainly have an interest in trains, in all honesty, it's more of a passing one...
One question (though I think I know the answer...) Given that you can actually _see_ the train exiting the tunnel practically a literal _stone's throw_ from Heuston, en route to Cherry Orchard/Parkwest (and stations onward to Hazelhatch), would it not be possible for passenger services to 'turn left' and go straight into Heuston, cutting out the need for all the messing around, changing at Cherry Orchard, and so on? I'm guessing that while such movements would be possible for marshalling purposes, probably in the dead of night, it wouldn't be feasible as a routine thing, necessitating either a second engine with drivers having to swap ends, or reversing back into Heuston which probably wouldn't be allowed(?), and on top of that, having to (probably) disrupt express services up and down from Cork? And then there's the whole question of points... All that said, though, notwithstanding that the tram (Luas) is right outside the door and largely addresses the need, it does seem an awful shame that such a service isn't there, given that much of the infrastructure already exists... I imagine that the take up would be huge! Again, guessing, and I don't know if such a thing has ever seriously been mooted, but other than the sort of 'one ~off' services I described in my previous comment, I suspect a lot of upgrades would have to be put in place to make regular straight~through connections between Connolly and Heuston viable, and that there isn't a lot of 'room for manoeuvre' (literally or figuratively) in the area because of geographical constraints...
(I know there _was_ talk for a time of an underground connection between the two stations, but, Hell, they still haven't dug up a sod of Earth on the 'Metro' out to the airport, despite serious proposals for such for donkey's years... and again, "Shur, haventcha got the Luas..?")
Anyway, sorry, this is a bit of a 'Transport Document' in its own right, I don't know if you (or anyone) will have the time to address the points I bring up here... not all of us are cursed/blessed with the free time/insomnia to sit up commenting on videos at 6 o'clock in the morning! Anyway, my meanderings to one side, this was, as I say, mainly in the nature of being a breast~beating exercise!
Oh dear! My hands are up!🫣😔 Feeling a little stupid, now!🤤 Thanks for putting me straight, though...
A teacher said to me, many ( _many!_ ) years ago, " 'Mister' Hoyt, you're a 'smart enough' young fella - you might actually pass a few exams if you would just take the time to _READ the question,_ instead of just steaming in there and sicking up whatever's in your head!" He was obviously right, this being an analagous situation - everything I needed was right here in the video! Particularly the part where @scottishtrainspotter was examining/showing the route~map, and a few minutes later, at 7:05, when the train actually _enters the tunnel!_
In my defence (or maybe I'm just doubling down on my ignorance?!), I _think_ I'm correct in saying that the situation I described _is_ the one that prevailed prior to 2016 when they re~opened the old platform(s?) at Grand Canal Dock, allowing passenger services to access that whole Drumcondra/Cabra loop? Unfortunately, disabilities mean that I've barely used the trains in recent years, and while I certainly have an interest in trains, in all honesty, it's more of a passing one...
One question (though I think I know the answer...) Given that you can actually _see_ the train exiting the tunnel practically a literal _stone's throw_ from Heuston, en route to Cherry Orchard/Parkwest (and stations onward to Hazelhatch), would it not be possible for passenger services to 'turn left' and go straight into Heuston, cutting out the need for for all the messing around, changing at Cherry Orchard, and so on? I'm guessing that while such movements would be possible for marshalling purposes, probably in the dead of night, it wouldn't be feasible as a routine thing, necessitating either a second engine with drivers having to swap ends, or reversing back into Heuston which probably wouldn't be allowed(?), and on top of that, probably having to disrupt express services up and down from Cork? And then there's the whole question of points... All that said, though, notwithstanding that the tram (Luas) is right outside the door and largely addresses the need, it does seem an awful shame that such a service isn't there, given that much of the infrastructure already exists... I imagine that the take up would be huge! Again, guessing, and I don't know if such a thing has ever seriously been mooted, but other than the sort of 'one~off' services I described in my previous comment, I suspect a lot of upgrades would have to be put in place to make regular straight~through connections between Connolly and Heuston viable, and that there isn't a lot of 'room for manoeuvre' (literally or figuratively) in the area because of geographical constraints...
(I know there _was_ talk for a time of an underground connection between the two stations, but, Hell, they still haven't dug up a sod of Earth for the 'Metro' out to the airport, despite there being serious such proposals for donkey's years... and again, "Shur, haventcha got the Luas..?")
Anyway, sorry, this is a bit of a 'Transport Document' in it's own right, I don't know if you (or anyone) will have the time to address the points I bring up here... not all of us are cursed/blessed with the free time/insomnia to sit up commenting on videos at 6 o'clock in the morning! Anyway, my meanderings to one side, this was, as I say, mainly in the nature of being a breast~beating exercise.
There's a tram that costs €2 and takes about 10 minutes. Nobody makes this connection by rail.
At least there's something.
@@scottishtrainspotter7209 Its litterally door to door. There is a tram stop outside each station, called the LUAS
@@scottishtrainspotter7209Yes, but it's nice to see the comparison.
Tram called Luas connects both stations costing €2 . There are bus options with Dublin Bus and other operators. The stations are no more than a 25 to 30 min walk from each other following the river Liffey, there are even city bike hire ranks close to both stations. Taking the train between both stations is the London equivalent to only taking suburban and intercity trains to get from London Bridge to Paddington and not using any of the Transport for London services like the tube or bus. Nice to try if you love trains but not practical as a normal connection and much more costly.
@@joemulhall5202 Absolutely, but we really do need a direct connection between Connolly and Heuston. Through running Drogheda to Kildare DART+ trains would make a huge amount of sense. It would, of course, be very expensive to build, but it would enable a massively improved commuter options to a much greater area of the city centre.
I really struggle to understand this journey, there is a tram from Connolly to Heuston , which takes about 10 minutes, why would you go to all this complicated mess
I did that just for fun.
It's fairly obviously a pointless journey done for amusement.
0:38 what even is that? Just get a leap card or buy an individual ticket
Also 115 for monthly free travel is pretty good considering it's not for people taking one or a few journeys, it's for commuters or locals who use it multiple times every day
I must've over reacted, to be fair it was only my first time using those tickets in Dublin.
Dare I say, a bit more camera work through the window and less filming of the inside of the carriage would have made it more interesting.
Sorry.
Making it longer for yourself this is something I would do if I had nothing to do but just get the luas
I would've done that if I was making a connection at Dublin Heuston.
Odd way of getting between these 2 stations. You could walk it in 25 minutes and yes I have done. Luas 8 minutes!
At least there's something.
You must 'walk' like those guys in the Olympics! 😁
At 8:42 you were stopped at Heuston station platform 10.
I didn't know the actually platform at that part of the journey. Thank you for the interesting fact.👍
@ not used for passengers it’s a long walk back to the station
Held at danger signal protecting the approach to heustons main platforms i imagine. A lot of Intercity services going in and out that get priority routing. Station isn't used for Pax (yet).
U wud b quicker walking
I could've done that.
Take luas
Cop yourself on and stop making stupid comments like that - you’ll get jail for trolling
I would, but it's just for fun.