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@@nataliainoa503you could've came to that conclusion by the mental things he claims to have, that all he wants to do is complain, weak minded people are just weak minded, quick to be the victim
Born and raised inside a wooden box being fed air conditioning filtered air all their lives is it really a question why these people turn out as clean neat freaks deathly afraid of germs?
You'd think they would actually give the guest a bit of a 411 on their whole deal. Why would you expect someone like Howie to know anything about your little podcast project? On second thought, if you need to explain the dynamic of your podcast, it's not working.
This entire video feels kinda off. I would not put everything on Howie. Im not a fan of his, but Rob was equally cringe. Both of them seem responsible for that awful podcast
I'm not even a fan of Howie, but nothing in this video makes Howie out to be "exposed" or seem unreasonable besides the "shi**y life" comment. He even tried super hard to make amends towards the end.
The narrative is that Howie was being insensitive to his desire to have a serious conversation about ocd. Which maybe he was, but I too feel the title is clickbait.
Yeah, anybody who does a lot of interviews, live shows, sales meetings, presentations, or anything else like that, knows that sometimes you just have a shitty one. It's not some moral failure, just, sometimes it doesn't go well.
Well if a father and son wants to date maybe since antiquity there were things you should be so the harshest ? Just a thought go with love in your hands and feet
I completely agree, but without taking a firm stance, you won't get engaged audience members like yourself commenting. He's obviously just doing his job, trying to make a living by seeking attention. I never thought he'd resort to 'exposing' Howie Mandel for his awkwardness.
@@tristinjones2 Yeah, Howie's probation line was a clear attempt to get more banter going, and the host completely missed the moment. Seems like he does that a lot.
Wtf, I don't even like Howie but I don't see how he did anything wrong here. Rob was so unprofessional and didn't respect Howie's boundaries causing Howie to understandably become defensive.
@@vinnyholiday9739and rob is either dumb ( i need to remind her about the phone” like bro your mom don tell you everyday to drink water) or weird (taking howie as his therapist) all are the problem
I completely agree, but without taking a strong stance, you won't see engaged viewers like yourself commenting. This is clearly his job; he's trying to earn a living by seeking attention. I just never imagined he'd be so desperate to 'expose' Howie Mandel's awkwardness.
When two people with the same issues speak to each other, it’s polarizing. Either they completely understand and agree with each other, or they see themselves in each other and instantly hate each other. There is rarely a happy medium.
this podcast didn't expose Howie, it exposed Rob for being an asshole who cant take a hint when someone clearly isn't comfortable with a topic and wants to move on, just from the start, Rob discredited all of Howie's achievements, and boiled his existence down to just his mental disorder, honestly should retitle the vid to "podcast host makes an ass of himself"
@@WTFBUTWHY I actually felt bad for Howie, because he keeps switching between trying to make jokes, and trying to give serious answers, and that's because Rob isn't letting him do either, he'll ask Howie a serious question, get a serious answer and some serious advice, and Rob just shuts it down completely, then Howie thinks "ok maybe I can make some jokes then", which then are taken seriously by Rob.. so really there was nothing Howie could do, there for humor, no one gets the joke, there for serious advice, gets shut down, it was a lose lose situation for him
@@quintonstage1023 exactly, I really think if he didn't have OCD or whatever other issues he has, he'd have no personality, he uses his mental issues and even financial issues as some sort of badge of honor, the reason he doesn't want Howie's advice isn't because he doesn't think it'll work, he just subconsciously likes his issues and without them, he'd feel like he lost his whole personality
Rob asked for advice on a particular issue. Howie gave him practical ways to deal with that issue and Rob just shut them all down saying they won't work. Rob didn't give it a seconds thought. Rob didn't actually want any advice he just wanted to talk about the struggles of OCD and Howie didn't want to talk about it. Rob made it awkward but then wants to put it on Howie for making it awkward.
What was a genuine way howie gave other than the plastic bag? And rob gave a perfectly fine justification as to why that wouldnt work in his situation. Im just wondering since you said there was multiple he provided.
@early2exit he said that he could alcohol swab the phone before bed like with the ankle bracelet and Rob immediately shut it down. Dude if someone asks you for advice then shuts down your ideas then why would you keep trying to give advice?
yeah, just wait till u hear the landing strip part tho, this whole thing was really just giving context for that part. go watch that, u probably didn't reach that part of the video
Howie isn't even that bad, rob kinda sucks, and he thinks that people with the same problems should have the same experiences, he believes that people with ocd are a monolith.(I do not have ocd, but I am black and I do notice that some black people think that all black people are the same or think the same.)
Seems like Howie has a serious pcd problem. He can function by not thinking about it. Rob wants him to think about it. Howie starts to unravel. Rob keeps.pulling that thread. What a douche.
genuine question. If the advice is absolute shit, are you still supposed to take it? Cause thats what youre saying. If i have a reason as to why your advice wouldnt work, then your advice isnt good advice. Get it?
@@early2exit Yeah but the point is not when someone asks what should they eat and u say chips and they say nah bro, im allergic to potatos, its all fine. What is annoying is when someone's like (real story btw) - what do I eat, I'm hungry. And you say -order a pizza? -no, unhealthy -do you have some healthy restaurants delivering? -thats expensive -cook something? -i dont have anything at home -you can go to the shop and buy something to make easy pasta -no, i dont want to leave my house - do you have something in the freezer? -no, that would take time to prepare OK I GUESS YOU WILL STARVE. Honestly same energy like with that host. I don't want to do the alcohol wipe because God knows why, but also I won't do the ziplocks because she will forget ziplocks if she cant remember not to leave it on the bed but also i do not want to remind her, tell me what to do??? I will do anything, anything but this
Yep that is a huge red flag. Someone asks you for advise. Then you give time and effort to give said advise only to have them reject and complain about said advice. That is one red flag that shuts it all down. I am at the point if I see one red flag I am out. I don't have the energy for those types of vampires.
I really like your videos, but this felt like a miss. I dont even know much about Howie outside of watching some AGT, but even i know he hates talking about his OCD. So, despite that being information freely out there, Rob beings him onto the podcast, basically tosses aside his achievements to only highlight his mental struggles. And then when Howie tries to politely shut it down, Rob keeps pushing. Then when Howie does force himself to speak on a subject that makes him very uncomfortable, Rob just shuts him down.
Honestly I found all parties to be pretty terrible podcast personalities in general and in my mind typically the burden of charisma falls on the hosts not the guest.
Yeah, judging by these clips, this guy's whole style is, "Yeah, but..." Basically the opposite of the yes-and model. It's almost a skill how little charisma and charm he has.
Rob is clearly in the wrong. When someone repeatedly drops hints that they’re not comfortable about speaking on a subject and you keep pushing it then I would call that unprofessional at the least and insensitive at the most. OCD isn’t a silly character trait the way the media presents it but a serious mental condition that tortures you with obsessive thoughts and fear. As someone with anxiety disorder I can really relate (to a degree). Once you start to spiral with obsessive anxiety and thoughts it’s hard to pull yourself back out of it.
Sorry but I think the podcast host was being unprofessional, yes you can ask for advice but he was acting like it was a therapy session. The guest was trying to be polite as much as possible. I'm kinda of done with podcasts since everyone and their mother have one now
Exactly it was absolutely ridiculous how Howie answered the same question multiple times and he shot down every suggestion and still kept asking him what he should do 🤦♂️
Yup.. why the f*ck does every human alive have a damn podcast? This is such a non-event. If I were to nitpick it to death I guess I could say that the Rob dude (resisting the urge to call him by the wrong name- Bob- lol) should have stopped prying. I just don’t understand why every person with even a modicum of a platform thinks they need a damn podcast.
I’ve done what Rob did. He feels like he’s finally with someone who understands his great lonely struggle and he thinks he’ll understand and he’ll learn from him- he’ll leave this conversation feeling like less alone. But he’s barking up the wrong tree. This person is uncomfortable. Not only is Howie uncomfortable but he’s really leading him toward panic. Our fear center takes over. All Howie knows after several minutes is- I NEED this to STOP. His amygdala is driving now. Rob wasn’t clocking any of Howie’s hints that this line of conversation is actually bringing on the terrible feelings you’re trying to avoid re the phone on the bed. Rob was just beating this dead horse. Howie was like too patient. It needed to end.
Cute story. Howie is simply avoiding a subject he's been pretending to be a disability of his for his entire life. This rob character is simply a naive idiot who doesn't yet understand that he's inventing his so-called problem.
@@JacksonHansen-s8rbro are you all right in the head? Coming to someone’s comment section in accuse someone of faking a disorder they’ve been known for having their whole life, like if you don’t have anything nice to say.. don’t say anything at all. And go get educated before you continue to try to tell me he’s faking his disorder. Some people just don’t want to talk about their struggles with mental health all the time, and Rob just kept making Howie uncomfortable by making the entire interview about it.
I'm honestly with Howie on this one. He made it clear from the beginning that he was not comfortable talking about his OCD, yet Rob kept pushing the issue. Howie tried to shut it down numerous times with jokes, but he just couldn't get the memo. Also, messing up Jamie's name was an honest mistake. It just feels like people took one awkward conversation and used that to try and cancel Howie Mandel.
I agree, it really seems more like a problem with them than Howie. It's a bit odd that this conversation has such a critical analysis with bias against Howie where it's the podcaster's job to make the interview interesting and get on the interviewee's level. Okay he got names and relationships wrong, could happen to anyone. Not enough of a reason to be cancelled. They didn't get that Howie was joking. Anyone could have gotten on the banter train. This is some bullshit.😊
this and also OCD involves intrusive thoughts and once you plant a seed you physically and mentally cannot stop the thoughts and compulsions hence not wanting to live that on screen. they were insensitive
I never liked Howie but I'm with you on this one It's so glaringly...painfully obvious what happened😂 They just couldn't 'vibe'...no one was trying to be disrespectful...the room couldn't be read on both sides😂
If he would have done the bare minimum research he would have seen the nature of the pod cast, they topics they talk about, the seriousness of it and the fact they where going to want to talk about it. It's entirely on him for going on a show and NOT DOING ANY RESEARCH FIRST. You cannot be on his side, it's 100% his fault. You don't go on MXC and get mad when they keep expecting you to run through crazy race tracks. You don't go on Deal or No Deal and get upset when they keep asking you to pick briefcases. He went onto a pod cast with a dude who does serious conversation about serious topics who also has OCD and got upset he wanted to have a serious conversation about OCD. That's on him.
@@zoefrazier4825 By your own logic you're being insensitive to the fact the hosts OCD kept bringing him back to the topic. He literally had a compulsion to speak to him about the topic that's why he kept going back to it. Stay logically consistent or stay out of the conversation.
It's not Howie's job to give some guy advice about how to deal with his OCD or to listen to his triggering stories about how filthy cellphones are. Howie Mandell is a mediocre comedian, not a therapist. I don't blame him for getting annoyed with that guy.
That's what shocked me that most. Rob literally sat there giving Howie a lecture on how phones are filthy when Howie just told him he doesn't think about germs on his phones. Rob then proceeds to say that "phones are 10x dirtier than toilet seats." I'm stunned at the lack of self-awareness.
I don't really know much about Howie but I definitely don't think less of him because of this podcast. Just a case of people having no chemistry, it's crazy to put all the blame on him for these awkward conversations
I'm Rob's age, never followed anything Howie did tbh, but I have to be honest. Rob got really annoying several times. Almost exhausting. I don't think Howie was all that bad here, but this interview never would have worked. The personality clash is too strong. If someone with a mental health issue says they don't like talking about it and they get better by not thinking about it, you don't keep prodding them to talk about it. Rob kept making the entire scenario worse. I also don't blame Howie for getting their ages wrong. They do seem like they're still in their 20s, especially with how Rob wasn't catching all the hints and (yes, dry) jokes Howie was making. And I think the lack of respect on his part may have grown due to feeling disrespected, having his discomfort ignored.
I feel like off the bat Rob didn’t do a great job presenting his own germophobia in any kind of serious way. If I were Howie I too wouldn’t have taken as a dire need for advice either, it seemed like he thought he was exaggerating or just trying to relate. Not saying Rob doesn’t deal with it, but it’s levels to that shit & it’s possible he’s a germophobe without having the potentially crippling OCD from it that Howie Mandel does
Agreed. I struggle with autism but I’m not a therapist or anything. I do have some advice on how to cope with it but I shouldn’t be obligated to. It’s just something I deal with and overall I’m not an expert.
Then he should have taken 5 minutes to look into what podcast he was going on and he would have known the central line of questioning. He was looking to have a conversation about the topic and looking for ways to solve the issue. When given a flawed solution he pointed out the flaws, and you call that "Being shut down" ? Do you not understand how trouble shooting works? If you told someone to charge their phone you have to plug it in and they said "but I don't have my charger" would you then say they're just ignoring your advice completely? Use your heads. He presented a problem the solution didn't take into account. if people could have the forethought to use the plastic bags they'd have the forethought to just not put the phone there in the first place, It's not even a bad point. It's a decent point of conversation to say, Add a sign? But instead Howie is the one who shuts down the conversation. The one who shut down the conversation is the person you're defending.
@@ninja19705 If someone gave you advice that you knew wouldn't work, You would just say thanks and not point out how that advice wouldn't work? Use your head.
Haven’t finished video yet, but just so you know Dana White loves Howie Mandel, Howie asked Dana to do the walk off before the podcast started. It was planned.
@@FROEZOEN Oh no he made a joke 😢 Rob couldn't follow his own critique and say "yes and". He was just a whiny little roach the whole time. Couldn't accept serious advice, couldn't roll with any jokes. Just whine whine whine.
It was clear that he didn't want to make anyone uncomfortable and felt genuinely bad about the situation, yet everyone is trying to make him out to be the bad guy
I have the same question as you. How did this expose Howie? I think he did a good job dealing with two people who insisted on making things as uncomfortable and off the rails as possible.
Wondering about the same. I have never heard of this random podcast, but I knew Howie was mysophobic. To me, having a phobia of some sort is to be a human.
Now, yes, it is. Our social justice standards are crap anymore since all is determined by how many times people say "that looks interesting" and clicks. Not based on anything actually useful, like context, peoples emotions are based on the statement that was literally engineered to look interesting.
I see this a bit differently. Rob is a weird guy. He's super argumentative. Dude was kind of getting on my nerves. Read the room. Bro is a comedian. Not your therapist.
Man, I feel for Howie. In the 2000s we weren’t very knowledgeable about mental disorders that weren’t depression or PTSD. I didn’t fully understand how cruel it was that people would touch him or do gross things near him to mess with him on America’s Got Talent because I thought back then (as a kid) that it was just a quirk. Not a serious mental health issue.
Honestly I can't believe I'm siding with Howie, but everyone trying to cancel him is so unnecessary and stupid. He really did nothing wrong and these hosts are acting entitled.
Kind of on Howie’s side. Howie was visibly triggered about the phone conversation and Rob wouldn’t drop it. If Rob really feels he has OCD, he should get diagnosed and get help from a medical professional, not a comedian.
RIGHT! Howie isn't your doctor dude. If it's impacting your life so bad that you can't even date? Dude has to be in a therapist chair, not in front of a camera aggravating Howie about it. He's clearly not interested in it.
EXACTLY!!!! like I was just thinking.. dude Howie is obviously trying to shy away from the subject but they keep bringing it up. Like wtf. Bro obviously he doesn't want to talk about it stop. He's not a therapist or a coach to guide you through your problems. He's a freaking comedian talk about stuff like that
Agreed, he’s not his therapist and everyones OCD can present in different situations/obsessions so idk what he was expecting Howie to say. He even gave the bag advice and he shut it down so like what did he want him to say?? Just talk to the girlfriend about it like what else is there to do lol
Completely agree, but unless you take a hard stance, you won't have engaged audience members like yourself chiming in through the comments. This is clearly just his job, he's trying to make a living by getting attention. Just never though he'd be so desperate to resort to 'exposing' Howie Mandel for being awkward.
Rob kept pushing topics Howie didn't wanna talk about, asked bad questions and didn't understand any of his jokes. This is like saying Bill Burr was "exposed" on that infamous H3 podcast, like no the host was just out of their depth
I'm sorry but all I saw was Rob being extremely rude to his guest. Howie made it clear he wasn't comfortable talking about his disorder and if Rob was actually being treated for his problems he would know that you never push someone to discuss something they're not comfortable with
As someone who also suffers from sever OCD I'm totally on Howie's side here. Prying into ones personal issues even if they have shared some of it publicly is just not cool. It's even worse when it's discussing OCD quirks which can be very personal and many don't like to discuss them at the risk of sounding totally insane.
Yeah OCD is sooooooooo much more than people being afraid of germs. I’ve been in therapy for over 10 years. It manifests itself different in every single person.
even outside of the shame how does he not understand that focusing on these things can very easily make it worse. Howie isn't afraid of phones and says as much and then rob starts to go into detail about why they upset him. Like how does he not understand that that could set howie up for a lifetime of anxiety around phones? Sounds like Rob has never actually met with a psychiatrist let alone a therapist and was hoping Howie could fill that role for him which is kind of sad but still completely inappropriate.
@@noThankyou-g5c Exactly, I never thought about phones like that either, but due to my OCD it did for a hot minute until I closed this video. It didn't become a trigger, but you're not wrong about how things like that easily can just from someone mentioning it like Rob did. Then to joke about it Tom just made both of them look like complete assholes.
I completely agree. I’ve realized I’m even obsessed with hiding my ocd in fear of people noticing my compulsions, and having someone probe me about it would be an incredible trigger. It’s not something I’m proud of nor is it an accomplishment, it’s my internal prison and I’d feel so exposed if someone put me in the position Rob put Howie in.
That's what I was thinking. Just based off of these clips, Rob doesn't seem like a great host. It seemed more like he was trying to turn Howie into an impromptu therapist rather than treating him like a guest on a podcast.
@@subject122 as a host, you need to look after your guest and see how they respond to your questions, it was obvious Howie didn't want to talk about it and even said it but Rob put his needs before his guest. He was willing to make Howie uncomfortable for his sake. A few questions is fine but he kept on going and going. If i were a person with many accomplishments like Howie, i would not liked to be reduced to just my illness.
@subject122 So then, when howie actually gave him an honest answer Why did he immediately brush it off And act like that was not good enough for him. Even in the moments that Howie was actually trying to be serious, the host of this podcast kept making things awkward and weird.
As someone whos genuinely struggled with OCD tendancies (dermatillomania, and germaphobia related), I really appreciate Howie for at some point coming out about the struggles he faced and faces. People painted him as rude and standoffish in hollywood and etc FOR YEARS for not shaking hands, etc. However, if he's not comfortable talking about the OCD issue and has made that clear (he has), it really frustrates me that those podcasters were so tonedeaf or unaware.
Howie even still tries to give advice to him, and the host just repeatedly discounts any of the serious suggestions Howie does give. Complete lack of tact on the host's part, and frustrating to listen to.
Rob was absolutely insufferable, the self obsessed type who've made their misery their entire personality and will shut down any advice whatsoever because they don't know who they'll be without perpetual misery and victimhood. I have mysophobia, and while it'd be nice to talk to someone with far more experience combating it and who has had access to the best educational resources, I'd never disrespect their boundaries like this, much less intentionally try to trigger a new obsessive fear to justify my own. Dude is utterly lacking in empathy and self-awareness.
Yes we still have a long way to go when it comes to public understanding about how to talk to people who have mental health issues or addiction. So many things can be triggering (as someone in recovery for processed food addiction the triggers are everywhere!) and people don't understand that. I think if people knew, they would be more sensitive because most people want to be considerate of others needs (to a certain extent, as long as it's not cumbersome or infringes on their own rights). I think we'll get there, we're still in the early stages of understanding mental health and addiction.
I feel like we’re just now starting to slowly understand (as a culture) that OCD isn’t a cute or quirky character trait and shouldn’t be mocked. I even thought it was funny when people would lick their hand and touch Howie, because I didn’t understand as a kid and teen that OCD was that hard to regulate. It goes so much deeper than “oh no, germs icky”
Wtf did I just watch? Howie was trying to make it obvious that he wasn't comfortable talking about his OCD that he's actively being medicated for and some mentally ill person was doing everything in his power not to move on over things like having a cell phone in a bed, yet that's on Howie? This video is so stupid.
Just judging by what Patrick presented here, Howie didn't seem like that bad of a guest. Not everyone is gonna vibe on the same level. If anything, the responsibility falls to the podcast hosts to pick up on nonverbal communications and guide the conversation in an interesting, non-contentious direction. Did Rob and Jamie do any research into what Howie was like on his podcast? Did they do any reading about his not liking to talk about OCD? Seems like they're more at fault for any negativity here than Howie.
Usually, Patrick would convince me, but not this one. Rob and Jamie just don't get the memo and keep pushing the button. For me, Howie just seems old school and the generation gap doesn't help with the chemistry.
"how 1 terrible assessment exposed Patrick Cc" also, if i fear something or it gives me anxiety, im allowed NOT to talk about it, Howie gave him the hint that he wasnt comfortable but he kept drawing Howie back into the convo like he's his therapist or something. I like Robert but he failed to sense Howie's level of discomfort
I felt like this during the Ricky Gervais video. Ricky took the piss out of everyone in the room, and while 1 joke made Tom Hanks go 😮 everyone laughed and had a good time and people still have a good relationship with Ricky, but Patrick made a video like it was a huge oops for Ricky to make such edgy jokes. Except the whole reason he was hired was his lack of giveashit and his borderline offensive jokes. It's all in good fun.
He knows, and he knows you'd know, so you would leave a comment, and drive his engagement. This is clearly just a job to him, how desperate can you be for views when you resort to 'exposing' Howie Mandel for being awkward.
You're a fool to believe dana. Dana walked out then later to avoid tons of media always asking about it and people talking about the fued they agreed to just call it a staged bit. Bless yals naive hearts tho
I don’t get this. What is Howie “exposed” for? Rob was being annoying as hell, making the convo about himself the whole time, and kept pressing the germaphobe convo even when Howie said early on he doesn’t like it
I feel like the podcasters are full of themselves. Truly, "not everyone needs to start a podcast." The hosts were unprofessional or simply bad at their job. You can't be mad at the consequence when you keep poking the bear.
Yeah I feel like Rob was trying to be so serious and making it awkward. Howie didn't really help the situation but I feel like he was trying to change the topic to find mutual ground or something to laugh about.
Yea it especially hurt to watch when the soprano guy kept reiterating how howie was raised in mansions and shit all his life while he was a poor boy living in a one bedroom apartment or wtv. Bro does NOT know howies upbringing at all lmao
@@goldennebula5013and dumb ass howie didn’t know shit about them he was just as ignorant as those kids ya just defending him cuz ya the same age as him
Honestly I know he wanted some suggestions but it's hard to talk to someone and give them info when they debunk every thing u suggest... Howie isn't the most gracious guest but anytime u give 2733 suggestions and they are like, "Nope" and find a reason for every suggestion as to why it won't work... Then you're pretty annoying too... Just because they share the same issue doesn't mean Howie is the poster child either... He doesn't have ALL the answers... The whole episode was a mess 🤷🏾♀️
Other people have been good on their podcast, on the flip side, Howie has been awful on almost every other podcast he's been on. He's been awful trying to get into this. Despite how awful he is, he did give us one of the best MSSP episodes in spite of himself. Sam Tallent made him look like an absolute fool.
@@Alexander_Grant I don't love or hate Howie Mandell. I personally don't think Howie did anything wrong here but It obviously pissed a lot of people off. I had to go back and watch the MSSP episode you are talking about.. Sam trolling Howie with the dog eulogy was freaking hilarious.
As someone who works in the mental health profession, you never ask open ended questions someone with a mental health disorder unless you are 'invited' to do so. To me it seems like Howie was very clear about that. He was caught off guard and mentally unprepared to be in that space. It was obvious that he didn't want to dive deeper in the world of OCD based on the lack of knowledge he had over the two people surrounding him as well as the space. I think he tried to communicate that in a gentle, indirect way, and put it to rest. And for that, he can't be faulted or judged. Rob should have read that and end it there. However, Robs mistake was to keep pursuing answers from someone who was unwillingly being forced to be 'vulnerable', for his own personal gain. Why? Howie is not a therapist. Conversations like this need to happen naturally. Perhaps, Rob could have sought consent from Howie and make sure his guests feel safe and comfortable before questions of this nature are asked.
Dude also kept ignoring anything Howie was saying and instead kept pushing his view. Seemed more like he just wanted to vent about his OCD and be told he was right.
I think for the first 20 minutes, Rob doesnt want to have a conversation he just wants to rant at someone who kinda relates to him. The only issue here is Rob
So a 60-year-old man with a 40-plus year career is supposed to know who these two out of work actors that were only famous for 10 years 20 years ago and really have done nothing since??????
Bro c'mon. I understand if yall say the criticism against Howie in this is unfair but the point abt knowing nothing about your podcast hosts as a guest is a valid one. It kinda shows laziness and mild apathy on his part to say the least.
@@dakashoes4702 idk the guy probably does a bazillion casts a month, he's old and has other obligations god forbid he doesn't do research for one of them. I mean I get it but I don't think it's that big of a deal.
This didn't expose Howie, if anything this exposed those 2 horrible podcasters.. imagine being Howie and going on this show with your entire career catalog and being asked about germophobia and nair... Rob sucks bro
I thought the reason they were discussing the subject was because the guy wrote a book about his struggles with OCD? You cant really write a book about a subject and then get offended when asked about the subject.
imagine being in the business for this many years and being so unprofessional you can't take 5 minutes to do the bare minimum research to know your hosts and the kinds of topics they talk about to know that's what you where going to be asked. Do you walk into McDonalds then get upset when they bring you what you order?
@@hardwatergaming7965 i think you can dude. Imagine you write a book on how to build a plane, and some jaggoff comes up to you and asks "hey how do i build a plane?". like, read the fucking book, asshole, damn!
Just another reminder of why people should never take the contents of a video essay seriously because very few ever do the full research before doing a video
I can't imagine why people would want to watch/listen to his podcast or most podcasts. Boring people talking about their mundane lives but pretending everything they do is so amazing like when they were at a party one time and a famous person was there and said hi.
I know nothing about Rob other than this video and he comes across here as completely insufferable and clueless, and honestly if i was Howie I would have insulted him and left the show.
i hate people who bring up personal problems in a casual setting and ask you for advice when they don't actually want it solved. can't tell if you want me to tell you what you want to hear or have a giant pity party but either way, enjoy it alone.
@@davidjones8043I mean it could be both, yeah? It's like nobody at that table could read the room and shift the conversation. The phone in bed thing is a clear example of that. He asked for advice and Howie gave an idea. It's not like Howie is a therapist and or medical doctor treating rob to hear all about how that won't work. The excuse Rob gave was that he doesn't want to be looking over her all the time. Like, if dude wants a girl to obsess over the same things as him. He should probably find another germaphobe that shares the same interests. Not tell Howie he is wrong and that won't work because of whatever. Howie being annoyed because this is the millionth person trying to connect with him because they have some weird thing about germs is absolutely valid as well. Howie should have done his homework and they should have reached out to see if he's even comfortable talking about it. Especially at the top of the show.
I feel like usually I find Myself agreeing with you on the topic of most of these videos but this one was just a Bad take howie did Nothing wrong in this. These weird podcast people were being very rude and awkward
@@larsonfamilyhouse Why? It's not like he knows he was gonna talk about Rob's Ocd he shouldn't be expected to talk about it it goes both ways plus if someone is telling you they don't wanna talk about it then drop it stop being pushy
He was having a conversation. He pointed out a flaw in the suggestion and then Howie stops participating. "why not put a sign then, or some colorful lights?" You're also ignoring the fact Howie would have known what he was getting into if he would have DONE HIS RESEARCH LIKE A PROFESSIONAL and would have known to avoid the podcast entirely since they where going to talk a lot about mental health
To be fair they actually work i bought one two years ago because someone else had it as an ad i took their test online and got it because i was suffering alot from neck and back pain it helped, but i did pay i think 1200 for a single… very very pricey although very justifiable aswell
I spent about that much on my purple bed about 5 years ago, I didn't even know about all the marketing, I just saw one and sat on it at a department store one day and fell in love. Thing is exactly as firm/comfortable now as it was the day I bought. They truly don't wear out. Also, it's fun doing front/backflips into bed onto it, lol.
so this whole video was shoddily thrown together with hardly any research done, all for a stupid ad read. thanks for wasting our time! hope the check was worth it. Also not buying these shitty overpriced mattresses.
i don't ever expect the guest, especially when they're a celebrity, to know the podcaster or about their life. But i do expect the podcaster to investigate and know about the person they are interviewing, that's their job. The problem is most people don't do that and it's why we get bad interviews.
I thought the same exact thing. That "that was literally the BEST Segway into an ad that I have ever seen". During the video tho, I was thinking, did this really need to be a video essay tho? Just an awkward interaction on a podcast with no confrontation or outburst? Just an awkward interaction. Then someone else commented "he really made this video just to advertise the mattress" which someone replied "ya cuz the topic on hand is lame" So I honestly think it was the best Segway ever bc it is the only UA-cam video that was solely created just for the ad. Which shit, I aint mad cuz I still watched the whole thing 🤷♂️🤷♂️ but I definitely suspect he only chose this topic bc he already had the advertisement and Segway in mind
@@tPeazyyI've definitely noticed his bias a tad more in the last 6 months to a year. But to a point thats how all these types of videos are, make their own narrative to a point
I think the biggest take away, is that some peoples personalities just aren't meant to interact. just like certain chemicals can't be mixed. certain personalities should also not be mixed
I guess I see it as being aware of what you're doing, regardless of your personality. Even if your personalities don't match, you can still choose to be more intentional in providing more room for the other person to express themselves, especially if they are a guest. I haven't seen the full episode but it seems Rob kept trying to get Howie to "show him the way," completely disregarding how Howie might feel and not giving him opportunities to discuss things he would rather be talking about or that are more related to him and his work.
If it is expected that you do research on your guests, then you'd think they'd know Howie doesn't like talking at length about his OCD. Honestly, based on what I saw here, those podcasts hosts were terrible, brought up weird topics, and don't understand subtle hints. I would not watch their podcast based on this video because the hosts seem awkward and not enjoyable to watch.
That's what I'm wondering. Howie clearly didn't know that's what they wanted to talk about and it kept getting brought back up. Can't crap on Howie for not being prepared but then also not prepare him for what you want him to talk about
I'm honestly getting sick of the fact that every single mediocre celebrity has a podcast that talks about absolutely fucking nothing. I don't even watch/listen to them and somehow it still consumes my feed.
For real i'm sure there's plenty to dislike about Howie, but listening to Rob speak there made me think he shouldn't be doing a podcast, or be in public, or live with people. Dude needs to resolve his crippling issues and fears of basically everything. No way you can live like that.
Yeah it's a disability? What? You gonna say to someone in a wheelchair they are their own enemy when it comes to walking? I mean true ig, but it's not as simple as that. Takes years and years of physical therapy for someone to have a chance at maybe walking again, but for a lot of cases the wheelchairs never gonna go. Same with this.
Exactly this. Rob came off like a pushy 20 something that wanted Howie to solve his problems, and ended up ignoring or putting down everything. I'm Rob's age, but if i was Howie, I'd have walked off.
For the people that don't know what OCD actually is, its not a fear of germs or the need to be clean. That is just one of the symptoms that not everyone with OCD experiences. The message Howie sent to Jamie at 25:18 sums up OCD perfectly. He stated he hoped he wasn't the bad guest they were talking about (which was the main point of the message) and also explained he had a good time and viewed it as them joking around with each other. When she responded saying glad you had a good time we were excited to have you on, she didn't address the obvious question about Howie being the bad guest they were talking about. Most people without OCD, would have ended the conversation there because they ended on a friendly note and its quite obvious Howie was the "bad guest" they were talking about. But even tho Howie most likely knows this, because he has OCD, he HAD to ask the question again to hear the truth from HER so he can get closure. OCD is OBSESSIVE THOUGHTS. So because of the whole situation, he could not stop thinking about it, and needed closure to easily move on. OCD is an anxiety disorder for this reason. He was incapable of moving on because of it.
I found a similar thing with my OCD: the more i think about it the more stressed and emotional (on a deep and unconscious level) i get, which results in only more episodes. So, interacting with people, diving into work or just binging on some series actually helps me. Having goals is what also helps me as it results in diving into something which distracts me
Honestly Howie CLEARLYdidn't wanna talk about his issues and this asshole kept pressing him because he wanted info for his own issues. This one isn't his fault.
A huge red flag is when you try to give someone advice kindly and they not only reject your advice but go onto complain about the advise you have given them. Those who are like that tend to be energy vampires. -Would be nice if spell check didn't auto correct, the wrong damn word!
Honestly it’s the only way these two goofball lunatics are entertaining to watch them flail about in their ridiculous neuroses lol. Maybe I should be more empathetic but Jesus Christ dude grow a pair Rob, or a brain. Actually study microbiology/immunology/epidemiology so you can address your concerns rationally. Keep some goddamn alcohol wipes by the bed or something. Whatever, Rob is pretty remarkable for making Howie Mandel likable. How the hell did Howie even get all these jobs and attention? I mean seriously the dude is annoying, not particularly charismatic, smart or interesting, weird, and boring. Of course not as bad as Rob. Oh by the way the commenter on this video is kinda annoying too. Everyone is annoying here. I mean I guess they made me feel much cooler though so there’s that. It’s interesting to see these two playing catch with and thereby amplifying their OCD vibes lol. It confirms my gut reactions negative impressions of people being justified. These people need to learn not to give a fuck for fuck’s sake. Jamie is the only one I don’t hate here. I don’t get why Rob’s fans defend him lol actually I don’t get really why Rob has fans. Basically Howie was getting his own somewhat abated/in remission OCD vibes magnified by this guys’ over the top uncontrolled OCD who wouldn’t lay back on it. Also too lazy to try is an obnoxious name for a podcast. Look I could probably describe myself as that way at many times In my life but it’s kind of pathetic and not something to be proud of it enough to make it the name of a podcast. Anyway, this was a classic selfish, aloof, and incapable-of-empathy boomer vs. their resentful mentally ill hopeless millennial children lol America 🇺🇸. Well I hate everyone here and now myself even a little, but I do have to say much less than everyone else involved in this train wreck! Lol. ☮️
This whole commentary video with the tense, spooky background music and voice tone/cadence makes it seem like the video will end with either Howie or the others being murdered.
well thats a way to word not doing any research on people youre going on a podcast to talk to. he literally explained why thats not the right thing to do did you not watch the video
yh, it‘s like he‘s trying to make a point but slowly realising not everyone viewing has this kinda obsession to issues that have literally no substance..
Good lord, these whiny podcasters and podcast analysts. The host SUCKED and this video does too for claiming it “exposes” Howie Mandel. You’re analyzing someone’s crappy podcast, not doing original investigative journalism.
Im on howie’s side here. He tried to joke it off but he did clearly state multiple times that he wasn’t interested in sitting there having an entire discussion about ocd and mental health but bro just kept insisting on it and whenever Howie did actually give him decent advice he’s like “nah that wont work”. He was actually being really annoying the whole time if im being honest, and I can see why their audience would be on their side, they’re probably all whiny millennials that love to talk about their feelings and “mental health” issues all day.
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Go touch grass, you pull out way more than there is in these podcasts.
this was your worst video ever. how did you not realize dana white walked out as a joke? unsubscribed. this video is dumb as hell.
@@deejay7339 true🤣
No thanks, I didn't come to this video to buy anything you're trying to sell.
Is it a water bed? How am I supposed to stay hydrated with a mattress
Tbh Howie tried everything in the world to change the conversation but rob wanted a therapy session so bad
And when he did give him advice he shut it down like it's not good enough 😂like dude you just want to complain
@@nataliainoa503you could've came to that conclusion by the mental things he claims to have, that all he wants to do is complain, weak minded people are just weak minded, quick to be the victim
They need help everything is after them they're so vulnerable feel sorry for them. Cupcake garbage
All this is fake fabricated reality land, these people would not last 30 minutes in a world pre 1890 or so
Born and raised inside a wooden box being fed air conditioning filtered air all their lives is it really a question why these people turn out as clean neat freaks deathly afraid of germs?
Rob is a terrible host. There was no direction to the questioning. The whole thing was aimless and awkward.
This...Exactly.
You'd think they would actually give the guest a bit of a 411 on their whole deal. Why would you expect someone like Howie to know anything about your little podcast project? On second thought, if you need to explain the dynamic of your podcast, it's not working.
It's almost as if being a child actor in a great TV series doesn't qualify you to be a talkshow host.
"Yeah we played the brother and sister on a show from 25 years ago"
Well, he was also a terrible actor.
This entire video feels kinda off. I would not put everything on Howie. Im not a fan of his, but Rob was equally cringe. Both of them seem responsible for that awful podcast
I get the impression Patrick really doesn't like Howie. Very biased.
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He didn’t
Yeah, if Howie doesn't want to talk about something, he doesn't have to. He's setting a boundary and thats perfectly okay
Patrick cc always trying cancel someone he must shit on a golden toilet
I'm not even a fan of Howie, but nothing in this video makes Howie out to be "exposed" or seem unreasonable besides the "shi**y life" comment. He even tried super hard to make amends towards the end.
Thank you! I'm 15 minutes in and cant for the life of me find Howie to be at fault at any moment
The narrative is that Howie was being insensitive to his desire to have a serious conversation about ocd. Which maybe he was, but I too feel the title is clickbait.
Yeah, anybody who does a lot of interviews, live shows, sales meetings, presentations, or anything else like that, knows that sometimes you just have a shitty one. It's not some moral failure, just, sometimes it doesn't go well.
@@MrIronJusticehe said he doesn't like being reminded
I agree. I didn't see any animosity myself! Just a conversation that wasn't using all 4 cylinders
I cant blame Howie. Hes not a therapist, and that dude definitely needs serious therapy and some manners classes.
Uh
He asked a simple question to his “role model” trying to get howies advice on something they should both relate to
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Well if a father and son wants to date maybe since antiquity there were things you should be so the harshest ? Just a thought go with love in your hands and feet
thank youuu lmao he was so cringe like stfu with the trauma dump bro
Bro really blaming howie when that podcast would've been the dryest thing ever regardless of the guest
I don't know why it's even a thing.. Especially on YMH
I completely agree, but without taking a firm stance, you won't get engaged audience members like yourself commenting. He's obviously just doing his job, trying to make a living by seeking attention. I never thought he'd resort to 'exposing' Howie Mandel for his awkwardness.
If you cant take jokes or throw them back dont invite someone who was a comedian on your channel 🤣 not that he was good one anyway
@@tristinjones2 Yeah, Howie's probation line was a clear attempt to get more banter going, and the host completely missed the moment. Seems like he does that a lot.
I agree not Howies fault they have the personalities of piss soaked blankets
Wtf, I don't even like Howie but I don't see how he did anything wrong here. Rob was so unprofessional and didn't respect Howie's boundaries causing Howie to understandably become defensive.
Honestly I thought Howie acted fairly, that was such a weird situation. That guy felt entitled to Howie’s advice and kept digging
@@Alex-ym5ox Yes we are not all brothers in our pains
Howie acted stupid and annoying.
@@vinnyholiday9739and rob is either dumb ( i need to remind her about the phone” like bro your mom don tell you everyday to drink water) or weird (taking howie as his therapist) all are the problem
I completely agree, but without taking a strong stance, you won't see engaged viewers like yourself commenting. This is clearly his job; he's trying to earn a living by seeking attention. I just never imagined he'd be so desperate to 'expose' Howie Mandel's awkwardness.
When two people with the same issues speak to each other, it’s polarizing. Either they completely understand and agree with each other, or they see themselves in each other and instantly hate each other. There is rarely a happy medium.
Ever since bro stopped reminding me to stay hydrated, I have forgotten about water
That's sad you have parasocial relationships
no more hydration. Dry boy summer.
@@Allmenshouldrespectallwomen it's not that deep.
@@Allmenshouldrespectallwomenbro is in the middle of the spectrum
@@Allmenshouldrespectallwomenit’s a joke
this podcast didn't expose Howie, it exposed Rob for being an asshole who cant take a hint when someone clearly isn't comfortable with a topic and wants to move on, just from the start, Rob discredited all of Howie's achievements, and boiled his existence down to just his mental disorder, honestly should retitle the vid to "podcast host makes an ass of himself"
I should know better than to click a video that says [celebrity name] "exposed." 😂
I agree. Rob was being way too serious.
@@WTFBUTWHY I actually felt bad for Howie, because he keeps switching between trying to make jokes, and trying to give serious answers, and that's because Rob isn't letting him do either, he'll ask Howie a serious question, get a serious answer and some serious advice, and Rob just shuts it down completely, then Howie thinks "ok maybe I can make some jokes then", which then are taken seriously by Rob.. so really there was nothing Howie could do, there for humor, no one gets the joke, there for serious advice, gets shut down, it was a lose lose situation for him
I didn't even know who Rob was until I watched this video and I'm glad I don't because he seems like a whine ass
@@quintonstage1023 exactly, I really think if he didn't have OCD or whatever other issues he has, he'd have no personality, he uses his mental issues and even financial issues as some sort of badge of honor, the reason he doesn't want Howie's advice isn't because he doesn't think it'll work, he just subconsciously likes his issues and without them, he'd feel like he lost his whole personality
Rob asked for advice on a particular issue. Howie gave him practical ways to deal with that issue and Rob just shut them all down saying they won't work. Rob didn't give it a seconds thought. Rob didn't actually want any advice he just wanted to talk about the struggles of OCD and Howie didn't want to talk about it. Rob made it awkward but then wants to put it on Howie for making it awkward.
What was a genuine way howie gave other than the plastic bag? And rob gave a perfectly fine justification as to why that wouldnt work in his situation. Im just wondering since you said there was multiple he provided.
Did you ever think that he’s tried it before? Also, sometimes you just know what works for you and what doesn’t.
@early2exit he said that he could alcohol swab the phone before bed like with the ankle bracelet and Rob immediately shut it down. Dude if someone asks you for advice then shuts down your ideas then why would you keep trying to give advice?
yeah, just wait till u hear the landing strip part tho, this whole thing was really just giving context for that part. go watch that, u probably didn't reach that part of the video
Yup Rob just wanted to whine about it.
This totally seems like Rob's fault. He kept pushing then acting like "why is Howie getting upset" "How dare Howie not say what I want him to say"
Dana admitted the podcast walkoff was a setup between he and Howie Mandel.
That sounds highly dubious
Finf that video pls and link it. Bet you cant
It seems like it because why would he even come on in the first place lol
@viking_nor it was on andrew Schulze podcast very recently
@@viking_nor It was on the Flagrant podcast...
Why is Howie supposed to be a therapist for this dude?
Only thirty minutes into him messing up her name but they spoke only on germs for like 10 minutes..Rob got serious problems
Howie isn't even that bad, rob kinda sucks, and he thinks that people with the same problems should have the same experiences, he believes that people with ocd are a monolith.(I do not have ocd, but I am black and I do notice that some black people think that all black people are the same or think the same.)
Seems like Howie has a serious pcd problem. He can function by not thinking about it. Rob wants him to think about it. Howie starts to unravel. Rob keeps.pulling that thread. What a douche.
Rob just ruined the vibe.
the guy ruined everything by trying to force his mental health crisis onto Howie
He wasn’t being a therapist he was just finding common ground, can’t believe you’re defending the absolute ass Howie made of himself
I hate it when people ask for advise and then immediately reject or deconstruct the advise. Like what's the point? Just admit you like to complain.
Doesn’t help when you give dog shit advise.
😂😂😂 You could tell that he wanted to complain, unless it went exactly the way he wanted it to flow, smh crazy lol.
genuine question. If the advice is absolute shit, are you still supposed to take it? Cause thats what youre saying. If i have a reason as to why your advice wouldnt work, then your advice isnt good advice. Get it?
@@early2exit Yeah but the point is not when someone asks what should they eat and u say chips and they say nah bro, im allergic to potatos, its all fine. What is annoying is when someone's like (real story btw) - what do I eat, I'm hungry. And you say -order a pizza? -no, unhealthy -do you have some healthy restaurants delivering? -thats expensive -cook something? -i dont have anything at home -you can go to the shop and buy something to make easy pasta -no, i dont want to leave my house - do you have something in the freezer? -no, that would take time to prepare OK I GUESS YOU WILL STARVE.
Honestly same energy like with that host. I don't want to do the alcohol wipe because God knows why, but also I won't do the ziplocks because she will forget ziplocks if she cant remember not to leave it on the bed but also i do not want to remind her, tell me what to do??? I will do anything, anything but this
Yep that is a huge red flag. Someone asks you for advise. Then you give time and effort to give said advise only to have them reject and complain about said advice. That is one red flag that shuts it all down.
I am at the point if I see one red flag I am out. I don't have the energy for those types of vampires.
I really like your videos, but this felt like a miss. I dont even know much about Howie outside of watching some AGT, but even i know he hates talking about his OCD. So, despite that being information freely out there, Rob beings him onto the podcast, basically tosses aside his achievements to only highlight his mental struggles. And then when Howie tries to politely shut it down, Rob keeps pushing. Then when Howie does force himself to speak on a subject that makes him very uncomfortable, Rob just shuts him down.
Honestly I found all parties to be pretty terrible podcast personalities in general and in my mind typically the burden of charisma falls on the hosts not the guest.
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Yeah, judging by these clips, this guy's whole style is, "Yeah, but..." Basically the opposite of the yes-and model. It's almost a skill how little charisma and charm he has.
@@Bnioit’s the negative vrs positive out look. Howie tries for the positive, Rob is clearly more negative.
@@Bnio Rob doesn’t “yes and”, he “not today pals”
Rob is clearly in the wrong. When someone repeatedly drops hints that they’re not comfortable about speaking on a subject and you keep pushing it then I would call that unprofessional at the least and insensitive at the most. OCD isn’t a silly character trait the way the media presents it but a serious mental condition that tortures you with obsessive thoughts and fear. As someone with anxiety disorder I can really relate (to a degree). Once you start to spiral with obsessive anxiety and thoughts it’s hard to pull yourself back out of it.
Sorry but I think the podcast host was being unprofessional, yes you can ask for advice but he was acting like it was a therapy session. The guest was trying to be polite as much as possible. I'm kinda of done with podcasts since everyone and their mother have one now
how did you know me and my mom had one
Exactly it was absolutely ridiculous how Howie answered the same question multiple times and he shot down every suggestion and still kept asking him what he should do 🤦♂️
I’m kinda done with UA-cam think-pieces
Yup.. why the f*ck does every human alive have a damn podcast? This is such a non-event. If I were to nitpick it to death I guess I could say that the Rob dude (resisting the urge to call him by the wrong name- Bob- lol) should have stopped prying. I just don’t understand why every person with even a modicum of a platform thinks they need a damn podcast.
@@samuelrussell7003Exactly.
"how exciting are YOU, if you take a woman to bed and she brings her phone" was a FIRE line, ngl.
Yeah the delivery wasn’t great but the line was solid af. It’s a good ball busting joke
I’ve done what Rob did. He feels like he’s finally with someone who understands his great lonely struggle and he thinks he’ll understand and he’ll learn from him- he’ll leave this conversation feeling like less alone.
But he’s barking up the wrong tree. This person is uncomfortable. Not only is Howie uncomfortable but he’s really leading him toward panic. Our fear center takes over. All Howie knows after several minutes is- I NEED this to STOP. His amygdala is driving now. Rob wasn’t clocking any of Howie’s hints that this line of conversation is actually bringing on the terrible feelings you’re trying to avoid re the phone on the bed.
Rob was just beating this dead horse. Howie was like too patient. It needed to end.
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Cute story. Howie is simply avoiding a subject he's been pretending to be a disability of his for his entire life. This rob character is simply a naive idiot who doesn't yet understand that he's inventing his so-called problem.
@@JacksonHansen-s8rbro are you all right in the head? Coming to someone’s comment section in accuse someone of faking a disorder they’ve been known for having their whole life, like if you don’t have anything nice to say.. don’t say anything at all. And go get educated before you continue to try to tell me he’s faking his disorder. Some people just don’t want to talk about their struggles with mental health all the time, and Rob just kept making Howie uncomfortable by making the entire interview about it.
@@undead.butterflies420 Mental illness. Is. Not. Real.
I'm honestly with Howie on this one. He made it clear from the beginning that he was not comfortable talking about his OCD, yet Rob kept pushing the issue. Howie tried to shut it down numerous times with jokes, but he just couldn't get the memo. Also, messing up Jamie's name was an honest mistake. It just feels like people took one awkward conversation and used that to try and cancel Howie Mandel.
I agree, it really seems more like a problem with them than Howie. It's a bit odd that this conversation has such a critical analysis with bias against Howie where it's the podcaster's job to make the interview interesting and get on the interviewee's level. Okay he got names and relationships wrong, could happen to anyone. Not enough of a reason to be cancelled. They didn't get that Howie was joking. Anyone could have gotten on the banter train. This is some bullshit.😊
this and also OCD involves intrusive thoughts and once you plant a seed you physically and mentally cannot stop the thoughts and compulsions hence not wanting to live that on screen. they were insensitive
I never liked Howie but I'm with you on this one
It's so glaringly...painfully obvious what happened😂
They just couldn't 'vibe'...no one was trying to be disrespectful...the room couldn't be read on both sides😂
If he would have done the bare minimum research he would have seen the nature of the pod cast, they topics they talk about, the seriousness of it and the fact they where going to want to talk about it. It's entirely on him for going on a show and NOT DOING ANY RESEARCH FIRST. You cannot be on his side, it's 100% his fault. You don't go on MXC and get mad when they keep expecting you to run through crazy race tracks. You don't go on Deal or No Deal and get upset when they keep asking you to pick briefcases. He went onto a pod cast with a dude who does serious conversation about serious topics who also has OCD and got upset he wanted to have a serious conversation about OCD. That's on him.
@@zoefrazier4825 By your own logic you're being insensitive to the fact the hosts OCD kept bringing him back to the topic. He literally had a compulsion to speak to him about the topic that's why he kept going back to it. Stay logically consistent or stay out of the conversation.
It's not Howie's job to give some guy advice about how to deal with his OCD or to listen to his triggering stories about how filthy cellphones are. Howie Mandell is a mediocre comedian, not a therapist. I don't blame him for getting annoyed with that guy.
tbh it seems as if his manager forced this interview on him or something cuz he did not want to be there
That's what shocked me that most. Rob literally sat there giving Howie a lecture on how phones are filthy when Howie just told him he doesn't think about germs on his phones. Rob then proceeds to say that "phones are 10x dirtier than toilet seats." I'm stunned at the lack of self-awareness.
don't forget bringing up "we don't all live in mansions" time and time again
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I don't really know much about Howie but I definitely don't think less of him because of this podcast. Just a case of people having no chemistry, it's crazy to put all the blame on him for these awkward conversations
I'm Rob's age, never followed anything Howie did tbh, but I have to be honest. Rob got really annoying several times. Almost exhausting. I don't think Howie was all that bad here, but this interview never would have worked. The personality clash is too strong. If someone with a mental health issue says they don't like talking about it and they get better by not thinking about it, you don't keep prodding them to talk about it. Rob kept making the entire scenario worse.
I also don't blame Howie for getting their ages wrong. They do seem like they're still in their 20s, especially with how Rob wasn't catching all the hints and (yes, dry) jokes Howie was making. And I think the lack of respect on his part may have grown due to feeling disrespected, having his discomfort ignored.
I feel like off the bat Rob didn’t do a great job presenting his own germophobia in any kind of serious way. If I were Howie I too wouldn’t have taken as a dire need for advice either, it seemed like he thought he was exaggerating or just trying to relate. Not saying Rob doesn’t deal with it, but it’s levels to that shit & it’s possible he’s a germophobe without having the potentially crippling OCD from it that Howie Mandel does
When Howie gave him advice, he blew it off every time. So yeah, I wouldn't want to discuss it anymore either.
Howie isn’t a therapist. Just because they suffer the same, doesn’t mean he HAS to give him advice…
Agreed. I struggle with autism but I’m not a therapist or anything. I do have some advice on how to cope with it but I shouldn’t be obligated to. It’s just something I deal with and overall I’m not an expert.
😂 hey I broke a few bones --> im now a trauma specialist
even when he did try to give advice he just shut him down, first time seeing these two and they are terrible podcast hosts
Then he should have taken 5 minutes to look into what podcast he was going on and he would have known the central line of questioning. He was looking to have a conversation about the topic and looking for ways to solve the issue. When given a flawed solution he pointed out the flaws, and you call that "Being shut down" ? Do you not understand how trouble shooting works? If you told someone to charge their phone you have to plug it in and they said "but I don't have my charger" would you then say they're just ignoring your advice completely? Use your heads. He presented a problem the solution didn't take into account. if people could have the forethought to use the plastic bags they'd have the forethought to just not put the phone there in the first place, It's not even a bad point. It's a decent point of conversation to say, Add a sign? But instead Howie is the one who shuts down the conversation. The one who shut down the conversation is the person you're defending.
@@ninja19705 If someone gave you advice that you knew wouldn't work, You would just say thanks and not point out how that advice wouldn't work? Use your head.
Why do I feel like pat made this video just so he could talk about the helix matress.
Look hear me out 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Hes an asshole
'Cause the topic at hand is laaaameeee.
i'm getting so fucking sick of sponsored streams
Yes, it was the reason.
Haven’t finished video yet, but just so you know Dana White loves Howie Mandel, Howie asked Dana to do the walk off before the podcast started. It was planned.
That's a pretty big oversight for the entire video I'm genuinely surprised he wasn't able to tell or look into it thoroughly
Your fascination with male celebrities tells me everything I need to know. Dana said he was tired. It was t staged
No it was not, there is no way that was staged. Dana saw through his bullshit fake being in 1 minute
@@Allmenshouldrespectallwomenyes it was hahaha , he literally said it when he was on Andrew Schulz podcast a few days ago , moron 😂
@@Allmenshouldrespectallwomen he literally said it on a podcast recently but okay. I just saw it on this mma news video this morning lol.
16:50 Rob constantly making Howie feel bad because he lives in a mansion is so annoying. Feels like Rob was on a power trip here.
Will someone please think of the millionaire!!!!
Okay but Howie's reaction to why he would know his gramma uses Nair sounded completely out of touch
@@FROEZOEN Oh no he made a joke 😢 Rob couldn't follow his own critique and say "yes and". He was just a whiny little roach the whole time. Couldn't accept serious advice, couldn't roll with any jokes. Just whine whine whine.
Howie real asf for speaking on it after and apologizing for making anyone uncomfortable at least. And reaching out on IG, I got respect for that
It was clear that he didn't want to make anyone uncomfortable and felt genuinely bad about the situation, yet everyone is trying to make him out to be the bad guy
Same. Bc he could’ve doubled down and called them dumb for not being able to take ANY jokes from a comedian 🫢 but he was very kind instead lolol
Agreed, he handled it respectfully when made aware.
I’d rather he not have apologized haha
Exposed Howie for what, exactly? Having an awkward podcast because he didn't gel with the hosts? I didn't realize that was a war crime
I have the same question as you. How did this expose Howie? I think he did a good job dealing with two people who insisted on making things as uncomfortable and off the rails as possible.
Wondering about the same. I have never heard of this random podcast, but I knew Howie was mysophobic. To me, having a phobia of some sort is to be a human.
Now, yes, it is. Our social justice standards are crap anymore since all is determined by how many times people say "that looks interesting" and clicks. Not based on anything actually useful, like context, peoples emotions are based on the statement that was literally engineered to look interesting.
ICC is preparing charges rn
No he’s a fucking prick with no redeeming qualities
I see this a bit differently. Rob is a weird guy. He's super argumentative. Dude was kind of getting on my nerves. Read the room. Bro is a comedian. Not your therapist.
EXACTLY!!
Howie is not a comedian
It's his podcast
@@crazboy21 oh so. we're just saying anything now. lmao. I'm not even a "Howie Mandel fan" but even I know that's not true.
@@Lycanvenom where is his stand up Netflix special. I've never seen him on comedy Central
Man, I feel for Howie. In the 2000s we weren’t very knowledgeable about mental disorders that weren’t depression or PTSD. I didn’t fully understand how cruel it was that people would touch him or do gross things near him to mess with him on America’s Got Talent because I thought back then (as a kid) that it was just a quirk. Not a serious mental health issue.
Honestly I can't believe I'm siding with Howie, but everyone trying to cancel him is so unnecessary and stupid. He really did nothing wrong and these hosts are acting entitled.
And honestly I think to expect a COMEDIAN/ HOST who has his own podcast that is madness + comedy, to go to a podcast to be SERIOUS, is fucking stupid.
@@serendipityhere2029 exactly! I like Patrick and his content but this one is not it
These hosts suck
Kind of on Howie’s side. Howie was visibly triggered about the phone conversation and Rob wouldn’t drop it. If Rob really feels he has OCD, he should get diagnosed and get help from a medical professional, not a comedian.
RIGHT! Howie isn't your doctor dude. If it's impacting your life so bad that you can't even date? Dude has to be in a therapist chair, not in front of a camera aggravating Howie about it. He's clearly not interested in it.
EXACTLY!!!! like I was just thinking.. dude Howie is obviously trying to shy away from the subject but they keep bringing it up. Like wtf. Bro obviously he doesn't want to talk about it stop. He's not a therapist or a coach to guide you through your problems. He's a freaking comedian talk about stuff like that
Rob was basically asking “how do I make a girl not got to bed with her phone?” What he should be asking is how to work on his severe germaphobia.
Agreed, he’s not his therapist and everyones OCD can present in different situations/obsessions so idk what he was expecting Howie to say. He even gave the bag advice and he shut it down so like what did he want him to say?? Just talk to the girlfriend about it like what else is there to do lol
Completely agree, but unless you take a hard stance, you won't have engaged audience members like yourself chiming in through the comments. This is clearly just his job, he's trying to make a living by getting attention. Just never though he'd be so desperate to resort to 'exposing' Howie Mandel for being awkward.
Rob kept pushing topics Howie didn't wanna talk about, asked bad questions and didn't understand any of his jokes. This is like saying Bill Burr was "exposed" on that infamous H3 podcast, like no the host was just out of their depth
Yea I said the same thing about Burr H3H3.
8:04 bro flawless transition
Gotta say that was a solid one 😂
Saw this comment as soon as he transitioned
Fr. Im ngl, I saw that coming when he said the full name of the bed. Should’ve seen that coming
This video made me very uncomfortable...
I'm not even done and I'm cringing to death 😭
Cuh stopped drinking water
Lmao, thanks for sharing. Are you offended too?
Ngl this one and the Jojo siwa were cringe to watch
very much so yes.. I'm only 6 minutes in.. and I am very much already lost any interests 😂
Asking someone if their grandmother has a landing strip is crazyyyyyy
That part had me cringing like crazy, holy crap.
I laughed my ass off
Omggggg it was SO bad... So fkn awkward and weird!!!!!
The timing was perfect 😂
Mine kept it natural unless it was grandpa's birthday or a major holiday
Theres nothing wrong with what Howie did, if he wants to avoid a convo that triggers him so be it. Rob was dragging the convo anyway
Rob was not reading Howie. In a big big way. Howie threw signs like a mad person and they were not recieved..
I'm sorry but all I saw was Rob being extremely rude to his guest. Howie made it clear he wasn't comfortable talking about his disorder and if Rob was actually being treated for his problems he would know that you never push someone to discuss something they're not comfortable with
As someone who also suffers from sever OCD I'm totally on Howie's side here. Prying into ones personal issues even if they have shared some of it publicly is just not cool. It's even worse when it's discussing OCD quirks which can be very personal and many don't like to discuss them at the risk of sounding totally insane.
I agree, I also have ocd and I wouldn't want my quirks cemented in a podcast. fuck that
Yeah OCD is sooooooooo much more than people being afraid of germs. I’ve been in therapy for over 10 years. It manifests itself different in every single person.
even outside of the shame how does he not understand that focusing on these things can very easily make it worse. Howie isn't afraid of phones and says as much and then rob starts to go into detail about why they upset him. Like how does he not understand that that could set howie up for a lifetime of anxiety around phones? Sounds like Rob has never actually met with a psychiatrist let alone a therapist and was hoping Howie could fill that role for him which is kind of sad but still completely inappropriate.
@@noThankyou-g5c Exactly, I never thought about phones like that either, but due to my OCD it did for a hot minute until I closed this video. It didn't become a trigger, but you're not wrong about how things like that easily can just from someone mentioning it like Rob did. Then to joke about it Tom just made both of them look like complete assholes.
I completely agree. I’ve realized I’m even obsessed with hiding my ocd in fear of people noticing my compulsions, and having someone probe me about it would be an incredible trigger. It’s not something I’m proud of nor is it an accomplishment, it’s my internal prison and I’d feel so exposed if someone put me in the position Rob put Howie in.
This sounds more like a Rob problem then a Howie problem.
That's what I was thinking. Just based off of these clips, Rob doesn't seem like a great host. It seemed more like he was trying to turn Howie into an impromptu therapist rather than treating him like a guest on a podcast.
@@crona1794He’s an older, wiser guy on a topic he’s interested in. I think most people would want to take the opportunity to ask a genuine question
u know rob was the one who inspired howie then i was like lemme make a music carreer out of it
@@subject122 as a host, you need to look after your guest and see how they respond to your questions, it was obvious Howie didn't want to talk about it and even said it but Rob put his needs before his guest. He was willing to make Howie uncomfortable for his sake. A few questions is fine but he kept on going and going.
If i were a person with many accomplishments like Howie, i would not liked to be reduced to just my illness.
@subject122 So then, when howie actually gave him an honest answer Why did he immediately brush it off And act like that was not good enough for him. Even in the moments that Howie was actually trying to be serious, the host of this podcast kept making things awkward and weird.
As someone whos genuinely struggled with OCD tendancies (dermatillomania, and germaphobia related), I really appreciate Howie for at some point coming out about the struggles he faced and faces. People painted him as rude and standoffish in hollywood and etc FOR YEARS for not shaking hands, etc.
However, if he's not comfortable talking about the OCD issue and has made that clear (he has), it really frustrates me that those podcasters were so tonedeaf or unaware.
Howie even still tries to give advice to him, and the host just repeatedly discounts any of the serious suggestions Howie does give. Complete lack of tact on the host's part, and frustrating to listen to.
Rob was absolutely insufferable, the self obsessed type who've made their misery their entire personality and will shut down any advice whatsoever because they don't know who they'll be without perpetual misery and victimhood.
I have mysophobia, and while it'd be nice to talk to someone with far more experience combating it and who has had access to the best educational resources, I'd never disrespect their boundaries like this, much less intentionally try to trigger a new obsessive fear to justify my own. Dude is utterly lacking in empathy and self-awareness.
@@FreshOutTheSlammer_I was thinking the same thing. He’s so “poor me” that he doesn’t want a way out. It’s his whole personality.
Yes we still have a long way to go when it comes to public understanding about how to talk to people who have mental health issues or addiction. So many things can be triggering (as someone in recovery for processed food addiction the triggers are everywhere!) and people don't understand that. I think if people knew, they would be more sensitive because most people want to be considerate of others needs (to a certain extent, as long as it's not cumbersome or infringes on their own rights). I think we'll get there, we're still in the early stages of understanding mental health and addiction.
I feel like we’re just now starting to slowly understand (as a culture) that OCD isn’t a cute or quirky character trait and shouldn’t be mocked. I even thought it was funny when people would lick their hand and touch Howie, because I didn’t understand as a kid and teen that OCD was that hard to regulate. It goes so much deeper than “oh no, germs icky”
Wtf did I just watch? Howie was trying to make it obvious that he wasn't comfortable talking about his OCD that he's actively being medicated for and some mentally ill person was doing everything in his power not to move on over things like having a cell phone in a bed, yet that's on Howie? This video is so stupid.
Just judging by what Patrick presented here, Howie didn't seem like that bad of a guest. Not everyone is gonna vibe on the same level. If anything, the responsibility falls to the podcast hosts to pick up on nonverbal communications and guide the conversation in an interesting, non-contentious direction. Did Rob and Jamie do any research into what Howie was like on his podcast? Did they do any reading about his not liking to talk about OCD? Seems like they're more at fault for any negativity here than Howie.
Usually, Patrick would convince me, but not this one. Rob and Jamie just don't get the memo and keep pushing the button. For me, Howie just seems old school and the generation gap doesn't help with the chemistry.
I’m pretty close to their age. I just don’t think he’s easy to get along with
Exactly
Ye idk i feel like the vids have been getting very biased and drama baity for a while now...
"how 1 terrible assessment exposed Patrick Cc"
also, if i fear something or it gives me anxiety, im allowed NOT to talk about it, Howie gave him the hint that he wasnt comfortable but he kept drawing Howie back into the convo like he's his therapist or something. I like Robert but he failed to sense Howie's level of discomfort
I felt like this during the Ricky Gervais video. Ricky took the piss out of everyone in the room, and while 1 joke made Tom Hanks go 😮 everyone laughed and had a good time and people still have a good relationship with Ricky, but Patrick made a video like it was a huge oops for Ricky to make such edgy jokes. Except the whole reason he was hired was his lack of giveashit and his borderline offensive jokes. It's all in good fun.
You like Robert?? I haven't found a single redeeming quality in this whiny kid.
You were slick with that advertisement. That was the smoothest transition ever. I will sit through your ads because of how amazing this was. BRAVO!
Bro… screw Howie not doing his research… YOU didn’t do your research on this vid… the Dana Howie walkoff bit was just that… a planned bit
It was a stunt with Dana white, he’s actually talked about it
He knows, and he knows you'd know, so you would leave a comment, and drive his engagement. This is clearly just a job to him, how desperate can you be for views when you resort to 'exposing' Howie Mandel for being awkward.
You're a fool to believe dana. Dana walked out then later to avoid tons of media always asking about it and people talking about the fued they agreed to just call it a staged bit. Bless yals naive hearts tho
@@Tonywirthfilms Huh?
@@Tonywirthfilmsgo outside lmao
@@mahnamesjakers they are right tho
I don’t get this. What is Howie “exposed” for? Rob was being annoying as hell, making the convo about himself the whole time, and kept pressing the germaphobe convo even when Howie said early on he doesn’t like it
Yeah, sensationalist title trying to blow up Internet drama.
I feel like the podcasters are full of themselves. Truly, "not everyone needs to start a podcast."
The hosts were unprofessional or simply bad at their job. You can't be mad at the consequence when you keep poking the bear.
Patrick cc trying to cancel someone again
Yeah I feel like Rob was trying to be so serious and making it awkward. Howie didn't really help the situation but I feel like he was trying to change the topic to find mutual ground or something to laugh about.
Totally agree.
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I feel bad for Howie. Those two Soprano kids were coddled all their lives.
They're Dbags whose stars faded away a long time ago!
Yea it especially hurt to watch when the soprano guy kept reiterating how howie was raised in mansions and shit all his life while he was a poor boy living in a one bedroom apartment or wtv. Bro does NOT know howies upbringing at all lmao
@@goldennebula5013and dumb ass howie didn’t know shit about them he was just as ignorant as those kids ya just defending him cuz ya the same age as him
Honestly I know he wanted some suggestions but it's hard to talk to someone and give them info when they debunk every thing u suggest... Howie isn't the most gracious guest but anytime u give 2733 suggestions and they are like, "Nope" and find a reason for every suggestion as to why it won't work... Then you're pretty annoying too... Just because they share the same issue doesn't mean Howie is the poster child either... He doesn't have ALL the answers... The whole episode was a mess 🤷🏾♀️
Other people have been good on their podcast, on the flip side, Howie has been awful on almost every other podcast he's been on. He's been awful trying to get into this. Despite how awful he is, he did give us one of the best MSSP episodes in spite of himself. Sam Tallent made him look like an absolute fool.
@@Alexander_Grant I don't love or hate Howie Mandell. I personally don't think Howie did anything wrong here but It obviously pissed a lot of people off. I had to go back and watch the MSSP episode you are talking about.. Sam trolling Howie with the dog eulogy was freaking hilarious.
As someone who works in the mental health profession, you never ask open ended questions someone with a mental health disorder unless you are 'invited' to do so. To me it seems like Howie was very clear about that. He was caught off guard and mentally unprepared to be in that space. It was obvious that he didn't want to dive deeper in the world of OCD based on the lack of knowledge he had over the two people surrounding him as well as the space. I think he tried to communicate that in a gentle, indirect way, and put it to rest. And for that, he can't be faulted or judged.
Rob should have read that and end it there. However, Robs mistake was to keep pursuing answers from someone who was unwillingly being forced to be 'vulnerable', for his own personal gain. Why? Howie is not a therapist.
Conversations like this need to happen naturally. Perhaps, Rob could have sought consent from Howie and make sure his guests feel safe and comfortable before questions of this nature are asked.
Dude also kept ignoring anything Howie was saying and instead kept pushing his view. Seemed more like he just wanted to vent about his OCD and be told he was right.
8:45 this is an amazing Segway. Like golden. Linux Sebastian would be impressed
Thought the same thing
I think for the first 20 minutes, Rob doesnt want to have a conversation he just wants to rant at someone who kinda relates to him. The only issue here is Rob
100% this. That's why he shuts down all the actual advice Howie gives him
I agree. He wanted to have a rant be validated by someone who he thought would relate to it,
So a 60-year-old man with a 40-plus year career is supposed to know who these two out of work actors that were only famous for 10 years 20 years ago and really have done nothing since??????
Yes if your gonna be forced to talk to them for 2+ hours
@@RichardMonteleone-e7mWhy didn't they do any research on their guest?
Bro c'mon. I understand if yall say the criticism against Howie in this is unfair but the point abt knowing nothing about your podcast hosts as a guest is a valid one. It kinda shows laziness and mild apathy on his part to say the least.
@@dakashoes4702 idk the guy probably does a bazillion casts a month, he's old and has other obligations god forbid he doesn't do research for one of them.
I mean I get it but I don't think it's that big of a deal.
@@ragnhild2674 why are you lying? they knew plenty of things about him.
This didn't expose Howie, if anything this exposed those 2 horrible podcasters.. imagine being Howie and going on this show with your entire career catalog and being asked about germophobia and nair... Rob sucks bro
I think the worst part was them sh!t talking about Howie afterwards instead of reaching out to him privately.
I thought the reason they were discussing the subject was because the guy wrote a book about his struggles with OCD? You cant really write a book about a subject and then get offended when asked about the subject.
imagine being in the business for this many years and being so unprofessional you can't take 5 minutes to do the bare minimum research to know your hosts and the kinds of topics they talk about to know that's what you where going to be asked.
Do you walk into McDonalds then get upset when they bring you what you order?
Yea this whole video feels like Patrick was rushing or something. How is he putting this all on Howie when Rob sucks so hard?
@@hardwatergaming7965 i think you can dude. Imagine you write a book on how to build a plane, and some jaggoff comes up to you and asks "hey how do i build a plane?". like, read the fucking book, asshole, damn!
That transition was so smooth I watched the whole ad 😂
Bro this is painful to watch lmao
It’s why I’m not subscribed
I keep having to skip parts lol this is indeed painful
Just another reminder of why people should never take the contents of a video essay seriously because very few ever do the full research before doing a video
Oh yeah they spend more time making the thumbnail then actually doing some research
He made one mistake at the start. I think this is a pretty well done video, nothing special but nothing horrible.
"than"
Another reminder that people like you like to pretend you have a good point
@@c14nonyt85hes been missing fact checking and objectiveness in many videos
Rob is so awkward. I wouldn’t be able to hold a conversation with him… he shouldn’t even host a podcast.
It's ironic that near the end of this video Rob complains about people lacking the ability to "Yes, and".
I can't imagine why people would want to watch/listen to his podcast or most podcasts. Boring people talking about their mundane lives but pretending everything they do is so amazing like when they were at a party one time and a famous person was there and said hi.
I know nothing about Rob other than this video and he comes across here as completely insufferable and clueless, and honestly if i was Howie I would have insulted him and left the show.
I don't perceive Rob as badly as you do. Or bad at all. The onus of how bad that went down falls on mostly Howie and his weird attitude.
yeah I don’t get why howie is the bad guy in this bro got out in a shit situation 😭 38 year old man asking for another man advice
They always whine that they are hated, but always silent when asked why..
this Rob guy seems fucking insane lol
His immune system must be shit if it never gets to fight off anything. Probably less healthy for him lol
He did say he was
Rob was a terrible interviewer.
He came off as hostile lol
i hate people who bring up personal problems in a casual setting and ask you for advice when they don't actually want it solved. can't tell if you want me to tell you what you want to hear or have a giant pity party but either way, enjoy it alone.
@@abigalanderson7494no he didn’t. Howie was a fuckin prick as usual
@@davidjones8043I mean it could be both, yeah? It's like nobody at that table could read the room and shift the conversation. The phone in bed thing is a clear example of that. He asked for advice and Howie gave an idea. It's not like Howie is a therapist and or medical doctor treating rob to hear all about how that won't work. The excuse Rob gave was that he doesn't want to be looking over her all the time. Like, if dude wants a girl to obsess over the same things as him. He should probably find another germaphobe that shares the same interests. Not tell Howie he is wrong and that won't work because of whatever.
Howie being annoyed because this is the millionth person trying to connect with him because they have some weird thing about germs is absolutely valid as well. Howie should have done his homework and they should have reached out to see if he's even comfortable talking about it. Especially at the top of the show.
Howie didn’t even know who they were! He dug himself in deeper and deeper
I think this video needs to be redone because the perspective is wonky.
It was not Howie. Rob was confusing me. Lol. He is not a good interviewer IMO. 🤷🏽♀️
I feel like usually I find Myself agreeing with you on the topic of most of these videos but this one was just a Bad take howie did Nothing wrong in this. These weird podcast people were being very rude and awkward
Hes been making some out of touch videos lately
Wait, how is howie wrong? He has every right to not want to talk about something and after you impose on that he is allowed to react how he wants.
Howie is not wrong.
He should have his manager say that when he books him spots. No ocd talk. It would avoid all this.
@@larsonfamilyhouse Why? It's not like he knows he was gonna talk about Rob's Ocd he shouldn't be expected to talk about it it goes both ways plus if someone is telling you they don't wanna talk about it then drop it stop being pushy
This Rob guy doesn't get what a podcast is. This is painful.
The helix ad was one of the cleanest transitions I’ve seen in a while, good job 😭
I don’t think Howie was that bad, he asked for advice then wouldn’t take it. Howie was prolly like wtf is this lol
He was having a conversation. He pointed out a flaw in the suggestion and then Howie stops participating. "why not put a sign then, or some colorful lights?"
You're also ignoring the fact Howie would have known what he was getting into if he would have DONE HIS RESEARCH LIKE A PROFESSIONAL and would have known to avoid the podcast entirely since they where going to talk a lot about mental health
Mfer advertising a 2000$ mattress lmao
@@spookypizza4371damn
To be fair they actually work i bought one two years ago because someone else had it as an ad i took their test online and got it because i was suffering alot from neck and back pain it helped, but i did pay i think 1200 for a single… very very pricey although very justifiable aswell
@@jesusguevara3675shill
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I spent about that much on my purple bed about 5 years ago, I didn't even know about all the marketing, I just saw one and sat on it at a department store one day and fell in love.
Thing is exactly as firm/comfortable now as it was the day I bought. They truly don't wear out. Also, it's fun doing front/backflips into bed onto it, lol.
so this whole video was shoddily thrown together with hardly any research done, all for a stupid ad read. thanks for wasting our time! hope the check was worth it. Also not buying these shitty overpriced mattresses.
couldnt of said it better myself
00:45 cmon that HAS to be a skit 😂😂😂
i don't ever expect the guest, especially when they're a celebrity, to know the podcaster or about their life.
But i do expect the podcaster to investigate and know about the person they are interviewing, that's their job. The problem is most people don't do that and it's why we get bad interviews.
Not gonna lie, that was the CLEANEST transition into an ad I've ever seen on UA-cam. This guy is creative as heck for that
Fr I was dumbfounded
Was it tho? I'm so sick of segways just do the f'ing ad
I thought the same exact thing. That "that was literally the BEST Segway into an ad that I have ever seen". During the video tho, I was thinking, did this really need to be a video essay tho? Just an awkward interaction on a podcast with no confrontation or outburst? Just an awkward interaction. Then someone else commented "he really made this video just to advertise the mattress" which someone replied "ya cuz the topic on hand is lame"
So I honestly think it was the best Segway ever bc it is the only UA-cam video that was solely created just for the ad. Which shit, I aint mad cuz I still watched the whole thing 🤷♂️🤷♂️ but I definitely suspect he only chose this topic bc he already had the advertisement and Segway in mind
Very true!
with your videos recently i feel like i’m being gaslit that there’s a problem where there isn’t
Ya feeling the same bro gotta stick to the actually information
on god I unsubbed this shit aint interesting in the slightest
Except maybe this one video, what's another that made you feel that way ?
💯💯💯then he adds eerie music as if that proves his theory 😂😂😂😂
Listen to Howie on basically ANY other podcast and hes funny and charismatic. This falls on them, not Howie.
0:23 you do understand that was a stunt, right? Dane White literally talks about this. Howie asked him to do it.
Patrick has feell off so hard. I thought he was wholesome in the beginning, now he's like CNN
@@tPeazyyI've definitely noticed his bias a tad more in the last 6 months to a year. But to a point thats how all these types of videos are, make their own narrative to a point
@@tPeazyymostly fluff pieces to lighten someone's image
@@tPeazyy….yall throw around “fell off” a little too easily
@@tPeazyybro go tf outside every comment you leave is “patrick fell off” you obsessed
I think the biggest take away, is that some peoples personalities just aren't meant to interact. just like certain chemicals can't be mixed. certain personalities should also not be mixed
Also certain plants can't grow together
I guess I see it as being aware of what you're doing, regardless of your personality. Even if your personalities don't match, you can still choose to be more intentional in providing more room for the other person to express themselves, especially if they are a guest. I haven't seen the full episode but it seems Rob kept trying to get Howie to "show him the way," completely disregarding how Howie might feel and not giving him opportunities to discuss things he would rather be talking about or that are more related to him and his work.
i trusted you for a long time man. Howie not wanting to talk about his phobia is perfectly valid. Are you really digging for dirt in podcasts now?
If it is expected that you do research on your guests, then you'd think they'd know Howie doesn't like talking at length about his OCD. Honestly, based on what I saw here, those podcasts hosts were terrible, brought up weird topics, and don't understand subtle hints. I would not watch their podcast based on this video because the hosts seem awkward and not enjoyable to watch.
That's what I'm wondering. Howie clearly didn't know that's what they wanted to talk about and it kept getting brought back up. Can't crap on Howie for not being prepared but then also not prepare him for what you want him to talk about
Agreed, if he doesn't want to talk about something, thats perfectly okay! Boundaries are okay, this video isn't
The fake woke, Patrick cc
The industrialization of Pat been tragic to watch 😭 you can tell how hard he going on these ads he went full content creator. Rip to a real one 🙏
dude, i gotta give it to you.. that transition into the Helixsleep promo was smoooooth!! A+++
I'm honestly getting sick of the fact that every single mediocre celebrity has a podcast that talks about absolutely fucking nothing. I don't even watch/listen to them and somehow it still consumes my feed.
Because bottom feeders like this guy upload it over and over
Same here!!! There all the same
Right!?
And someone who’s been in Hollywood since the 70s is supposed to do research on THEM for their money grab podcast?
Rob is his own enemy, sure howie ain’t the greatest but Rob here is letting his extreme OCD control his life.
He also didn’t understand his jokes
For real i'm sure there's plenty to dislike about Howie, but listening to Rob speak there made me think he shouldn't be doing a podcast, or be in public, or live with people. Dude needs to resolve his crippling issues and fears of basically everything. No way you can live like that.
Yeah it's a disability? What? You gonna say to someone in a wheelchair they are their own enemy when it comes to walking?
I mean true ig, but it's not as simple as that.
Takes years and years of physical therapy for someone to have a chance at maybe walking again, but for a lot of cases the wheelchairs never gonna go. Same with this.
Exactly this. Rob came off like a pushy 20 something that wanted Howie to solve his problems, and ended up ignoring or putting down everything. I'm Rob's age, but if i was Howie, I'd have walked off.
@@marsupialsr Absolutely agreed. He was honestly rude to Howie repeatedly, and Howie did his best to put up with it.
For the people that don't know what OCD actually is, its not a fear of germs or the need to be clean. That is just one of the symptoms that not everyone with OCD experiences. The message Howie sent to Jamie at 25:18 sums up OCD perfectly. He stated he hoped he wasn't the bad guest they were talking about (which was the main point of the message) and also explained he had a good time and viewed it as them joking around with each other. When she responded saying glad you had a good time we were excited to have you on, she didn't address the obvious question about Howie being the bad guest they were talking about. Most people without OCD, would have ended the conversation there because they ended on a friendly note and its quite obvious Howie was the "bad guest" they were talking about. But even tho Howie most likely knows this, because he has OCD, he HAD to ask the question again to hear the truth from HER so he can get closure. OCD is OBSESSIVE THOUGHTS. So because of the whole situation, he could not stop thinking about it, and needed closure to easily move on. OCD is an anxiety disorder for this reason. He was incapable of moving on because of it.
I found a similar thing with my OCD: the more i think about it the more stressed and emotional (on a deep and unconscious level) i get, which results in only more episodes. So, interacting with people, diving into work or just binging on some series actually helps me. Having goals is what also helps me as it results in diving into something which distracts me
I feel like people can't entirely blame Howie, some people just have 0 chemistry. That's human nature.
part of the problem is that we still think of howie as a comedian. he isnt funny. he never really was. hes an asshole.
Honestly Howie CLEARLYdidn't wanna talk about his issues and this asshole kept pressing him because he wanted info for his own issues. This one isn't his fault.
A huge red flag is when you try to give someone advice kindly and they not only reject your advice but go onto complain about the advise you have given them.
Those who are like that tend to be energy vampires.
-Would be nice if spell check didn't auto correct, the wrong damn word!
Colin Robinson AF! 😂
@@TheCodyMac Ha ha ha! His hunting partner is even more vicious and thirsty for energy than Colin!
@@OldieWan Yesss!! Lol There needs to be a parody video made of this. 😂🙌🏼
Advice**
Facts super draining
Okay, the transition to the ad break was so good I didn’t skip it 😂
I hate when people trauma dump on me. Imagine now being trauma dumped on while a camera is rolling. Screw that rob guy
Honestly it’s the only way these two goofball lunatics are entertaining to watch them flail about in their ridiculous neuroses lol. Maybe I should be more empathetic but Jesus Christ dude grow a pair Rob, or a brain. Actually study microbiology/immunology/epidemiology so you can address your concerns rationally. Keep some goddamn alcohol wipes by the bed or something. Whatever, Rob is pretty remarkable for making Howie Mandel likable. How the hell did Howie even get all these jobs and attention? I mean seriously the dude is annoying, not particularly charismatic, smart or interesting, weird, and boring. Of course not as bad as Rob. Oh by the way the commenter on this video is kinda annoying too. Everyone is annoying here. I mean I guess they made me feel much cooler though so there’s that. It’s interesting to see these two playing catch with and thereby amplifying their OCD vibes lol. It confirms my gut reactions negative impressions of people being justified. These people need to learn not to give a fuck for fuck’s sake. Jamie is the only one I don’t hate here. I don’t get why Rob’s fans defend him lol actually I don’t get really why Rob has fans.
Basically Howie was getting his own somewhat abated/in remission OCD vibes magnified by this guys’ over the top uncontrolled OCD who wouldn’t lay back on it.
Also too lazy to try is an obnoxious name for a podcast. Look I could probably describe myself as that way at many times In my life but it’s kind of pathetic and not something to be proud of it enough to make it the name of a podcast. Anyway, this was a classic selfish, aloof, and incapable-of-empathy boomer vs. their resentful mentally ill hopeless millennial children lol America 🇺🇸.
Well I hate everyone here and now myself even a little, but I do have to say much less than everyone else involved in this train wreck! Lol. ☮️
This whole commentary video with the tense, spooky background music and voice tone/cadence makes it seem like the video will end with either Howie or the others being murdered.
😂😂😂
I wish
Gandolfini shows up for a paid pewpew
Lol😅
Background music is awful. Please stop
Why are we blaming Howie because the guests were not getting his jokes and he chose to try and get to know them on the spot like a human.
well thats a way to word not doing any research on people youre going on a podcast to talk to. he literally explained why thats not the right thing to do did you not watch the video
@kevin-jo1qu he said "which is what's normal to do" we can't gatekeep how people run their podcasts.
@@sethstinson1341 what are u talking about
He’s their guest
He was the guest. And his vibe was clearly off from the start.
Did Howie even know he would be expected to discuss his mental health?
Never seen a Patrick CC video comment section be so divided ! I love it !
yh, it‘s like he‘s trying to make a point but slowly realising not everyone viewing has this kinda obsession to issues that have literally no substance..
The next vids even crazier. He’s on one rn.
What are you talking about? Every single comment is saying the host sucks 😂
This is what happens when we don’t get enough water
Good lord, these whiny podcasters and podcast analysts. The host SUCKED and this video does too for claiming it “exposes” Howie Mandel. You’re analyzing someone’s crappy podcast, not doing original investigative journalism.
Dude howie was a total prick
Im on howie’s side here. He tried to joke it off but he did clearly state multiple times that he wasn’t interested in sitting there having an entire discussion about ocd and mental health but bro just kept insisting on it and whenever Howie did actually give him decent advice he’s like “nah that wont work”. He was actually being really annoying the whole time if im being honest, and I can see why their audience would be on their side, they’re probably all whiny millennials that love to talk about their feelings and “mental health” issues all day.
04:30 he literally says he's ok to talk about it lol! You're a Moron!