I wanted to say this for a long time, but I am not a person that usually responds to UA-cam-videos... I really think that you are doing a great job in explaining the rules of a great variety of board games. Thank you Branislav and keep up the good work! Pascal The Netherlands
So the scoring example in this video is wrong since the 5th column is a tie between green (1 flag + 1 decoration= 2 contribution) and yellow (2 flags= 2 contribution). Per the rulebook, flags and decorations count the same regarding contribution. Might want to fix that or add some captions.
What a great explanation. I used this as a recap after learning and playing Red Cathedral the first time and learned a few things we were doing wrong. Will definitely watch again when we include additional players. So clear, concise, and complete! Thank you!
Hello! I very much enjoy your videos, but there seems to be a mistake in the scoring explanation of this video. The total value of the tower is correctly calculated with banners being worth more than decorations, but when determining which players win those points, both banners and decorations should count equally. So in your example, the yellow player should have been tied with the red and green players, not in first place alone. [See page 9 of the rules, "Example of Tower Scoring for Four Players, Tower 5," where green's decoration ties yellow and red's banner.]
Question on tower scoring. After calculating the value of the tower (2 per completed flag + 1 per decoration) the example in the rulebook shows a tie between someone who contributed 1 flag and someone who contributed 1 decoration on the same tower. So for figuring who gets the points, do flags and decorations count the same for area majority?
This has been discussed on BGG several times, but the rulebook is very clear, and it was also confirmed by the designers of the game. Rulebook, page 4 (the scoring track paragraph): "When you are told that you “gain or lose [prestige point],” move your marker to the closest Prestige Point space forward or backwards. " So the free action is shown correctly in the video.
Ah, okay, thanks for clarification. But is the rule really "very clear" here? The main problem is that it uses the term "LOSE prestige points". I would prefer "earn free actions" 😀. Another question: If you earn 40+ PP during the game (not at final scoring), how do you count them correctly (linked to recognition points) on the path? This question seems to be unanswered since September on BGG... Thanks in advance. 👍
Apologies... I missed this comment in UA-cam studio 😕. If you earn 40+ PP we usually continue by one space, linked to Recognition Points. Basically in the same way as on that last side of the scoring track.
OK :) In each column - first calculate the "contribution points" of each player, that is how many segments and decorations each player built in this particular tower. The "flag" is worth 2 contribution points, each decoration is worth 1 contribution point. Calculate it for each player separately, and then sum up all the numbers to get the total contribution. Example - yellow player has 6, green has 5, red has 3 and blue has 2. The total is 6+5+3+2=16. Then, the player with the most contribution gets the highest reward. In our example it's the yellow player with 6 contribution. The reward is equal to the TOTAL value of contributions in this column = 16, so the yellow player now earns 16 VICTORY points. The second player earns half of that value, so the green player earns 8 VICTORY points. Red would gain half of that = 4 VPs, and the blue would get 2 VPs. So, the higher the tower, the more victory points it awards. Hope this helps. :)
Fantastic rules video, thanks so much! The final scoring is actually even simpler though: you just count the number of banners and ornaments for each player, and the person with the most wins, the second most gets half, and so on. The contribution points are only relevant for calculating the value of the entire tower. For majority scoring, banners and ornaments are considered equal. P.16 of the rules: “Each player counts the number of banners and ornamentations of their colour they have on the conpleted cathedral cards in that tower. The player with the highest total receives the full value of that tower.” The example on p.17 confirms it - tower 5 has a three way tie for second place between red, green, and yellow. Red and yellow both have banners, green only has an ornament, yet they are considered equal. Apologies for being a pedant! This aspect confused me as it isn’t super clear in the rules. I’d like them to have written, “For calculating the total number of pieces of a colour, banners and ornaments are considered equal.” But it’s inferred in both their description of “total” and in the example.
I wanted to say this for a long time, but I am not a person that usually responds to UA-cam-videos... I really think that you are doing a great job in explaining the rules of a great variety of board games. Thank you Branislav and keep up the good work!
Pascal
The Netherlands
Thank you very much, Pascal! ☺️
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Another great video, you are quickly becoming my go to channel for learning how to play :)
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So the scoring example in this video is wrong since the 5th column is a tie between green (1 flag + 1 decoration= 2 contribution) and yellow (2 flags= 2 contribution). Per the rulebook, flags and decorations count the same regarding contribution. Might want to fix that or add some captions.
Tie between green, yellow AND red. All players have 2 contribution.
Good quick breakdown of how the game is played and scored. I have subscribed.
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Excellent Game in a Nutshell video as always Branislav. You are rapidly becoming my got to youtuber for learning games.
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Excellent explanation! Thanks for posting.
Just got this one and so glad to see another really precise teach. Thank you so much
Perfect explanation. Greatly appreciated.
What a great explanation. I used this as a recap after learning and playing Red Cathedral the first time and learned a few things we were doing wrong. Will definitely watch again when we include additional players. So clear, concise, and complete! Thank you!
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Mr Brian, you provide us with best explanation of rules for boardgames, thanks!
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Just bought this game , thanks for this how to play one of the best ones I’ve seen
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What a small clever game. Great explanation :)
Hello!
I very much enjoy your videos, but there seems to be a mistake in the scoring explanation of this video. The total value of the tower is correctly calculated with banners being worth more than decorations, but when determining which players win those points, both banners and decorations should count equally.
So in your example, the yellow player should have been tied with the red and green players, not in first place alone. [See page 9 of the rules, "Example of Tower Scoring for Four Players, Tower 5," where green's decoration ties yellow and red's banner.]
Yes, that's correct! I got a wrong translation first and then it was too late to change the video. Apologies for that. :(
Excellent teach! thanks so much!
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Thank you for video!!
Thank you, wonderful job
I hope this will be available in Germany soon! Looks great!
And it also plays well! 😊 (spoilers for my TOP25 of 2020 😄)
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Question on tower scoring. After calculating the value of the tower (2 per completed flag + 1 per decoration) the example in the rulebook shows a tie between someone who contributed 1 flag and someone who contributed 1 decoration on the same tower. So for figuring who gets the points, do flags and decorations count the same for area majority?
Yes, they count the same, the only difference is number of points - 2 for a flag, 1 for decoration.
@@nithrania-gameinanutshell In this case is a tie between all players (2 contribution for red, green and yellow).
@@9bogas i think you are correct
3:30 The first free action seems to be shown wrong, because by just moving back to the last passed PP-symbol you do NOT pay a PP.
This has been discussed on BGG several times, but the rulebook is very clear, and it was also confirmed by the designers of the game.
Rulebook, page 4 (the scoring track paragraph): "When you are told that you “gain or lose [prestige point],” move your marker to the closest Prestige Point space forward or backwards. "
So the free action is shown correctly in the video.
Ah, okay, thanks for clarification. But is the rule really "very clear" here? The main problem is that it uses the term "LOSE prestige points". I would prefer "earn free actions" 😀.
Another question: If you earn 40+ PP during the game (not at final scoring), how do you count them correctly (linked to recognition points) on the path? This question seems to be unanswered since September on BGG...
Thanks in advance. 👍
Apologies... I missed this comment in UA-cam studio 😕.
If you earn 40+ PP we usually continue by one space, linked to Recognition Points. Basically in the same way as on that last side of the scoring track.
@@nithrania-gameinanutshell Patience is the key...🙃👍 Thanks for response and your perfect work.
I still don´t get how the final scoring works...
OK :)
In each column - first calculate the "contribution points" of each player, that is how many segments and decorations each player built in this particular tower. The "flag" is worth 2 contribution points, each decoration is worth 1 contribution point. Calculate it for each player separately, and then sum up all the numbers to get the total contribution.
Example - yellow player has 6, green has 5, red has 3 and blue has 2. The total is 6+5+3+2=16.
Then, the player with the most contribution gets the highest reward. In our example it's the yellow player with 6 contribution. The reward is equal to the TOTAL value of contributions in this column = 16, so the yellow player now earns 16 VICTORY points. The second player earns half of that value, so the green player earns 8 VICTORY points. Red would gain half of that = 4 VPs, and the blue would get 2 VPs.
So, the higher the tower, the more victory points it awards.
Hope this helps. :)
Fantastic rules video, thanks so much! The final scoring is actually even simpler though: you just count the number of banners and ornaments for each player, and the person with the most wins, the second most gets half, and so on. The contribution points are only relevant for calculating the value of the entire tower. For majority scoring, banners and ornaments are considered equal.
P.16 of the rules: “Each player counts the number of banners and ornamentations of their colour they have on the conpleted cathedral cards in that tower. The player with the highest total receives the full value of that tower.”
The example on p.17 confirms it - tower 5 has a three way tie for second place between red, green, and yellow. Red and yellow both have banners, green only has an ornament, yet they are considered equal.
Apologies for being a pedant! This aspect confused me as it isn’t super clear in the rules. I’d like them to have written, “For calculating the total number of pieces of a colour, banners and ornaments are considered equal.” But it’s inferred in both their description of “total” and in the example.
@@nithrania-gameinanutshell No. For contribution decoration AND "flag" is worth 1!
final game scoring mechanic is a piece of shit.