Battle of The Cheap Corvettes: 1980s (C4) vs 1990s (C5) Drag Race, Roll Race, & Brake Test

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  • @TFLclassics
    @TFLclassics  Рік тому +23

    Check out the CRAZY cool Dakota up for auction HERE: www.tflbids.com/product/2001-dodge-dakota-v8-manual/

    • @speedracerjeff
      @speedracerjeff Рік тому +1

      The 4.7 is ok but a Dakota R/T with the 5.9 is way cooler!

    • @richardsenkBeachwalker
      @richardsenkBeachwalker Рік тому +1

      BTW you can manually shift the auto in the C5 for better performance in the quarter mile or rolling race. Having it in 3 instead of D vastly improves performance as it locks out 4th which is an overdrive gear.
      Also, with very few mods the C5 can easily gain another 100+hp, so it is far more upgradeable than a C4
      Looks are subjective but the C5 has a much better interior build quality and no annoying hump to hinder the entrance. Handling is much improved on C5 as well as how easy it is to remove the top

    • @mMORrissjim90
      @mMORrissjim90 Рік тому

      @@speedracerjeff

    • @rmm2424
      @rmm2424 Рік тому

      What's the DA?

  • @DanOnFire
    @DanOnFire Рік тому +361

    I think a comparison of a 1996 LT4 vs that C5/LS1 would’ve been a better comparison.

    • @ebkbk9902
      @ebkbk9902 Рік тому +5

      💯💯💯

    • @BlackRam17
      @BlackRam17 Рік тому +45

      Much better, even the LT1 would’ve been better

    • @edconatser5330
      @edconatser5330 Рік тому +28

      I agree,. I have a 96 C4 LT1 with 300 hp. racing a 245 hp against a 345 hp is not a good comparison . that being said, this is fun to watch. long live the C4

    • @jake_of_the_jungle9840
      @jake_of_the_jungle9840 Рік тому +17

      Some people say that a 96 lt4 anniversary is faster than a 97 c5 stock for stock

    • @nomakewan
      @nomakewan Рік тому +11

      @Darth Shibby And the technology jump from the 88 to the 96 is just as massive as the 88 to the C5. In fact, the ABS unit in the 97 C5 is the same one as the 95-96 C4.
      The C4 was not a monolithic vehicle. It was pretty much three or four different vehicles, all with huge differences in technology and drivetrain.
      So yeah, a 96 C4 manual versus a C5 would’ve really let the C4 shine.

  • @edwardpate6128
    @edwardpate6128 Рік тому +127

    I have always preferred the looks of the C4.

    • @wilhelmtrager7875
      @wilhelmtrager7875 Рік тому +4

      Me also, but in the last years I changed my mind. The C5 has aged very well and I found out that I need one...but, to be honest, a C4 and a C6 too. It will be a long and hard work for me. Corvettes are affordable, but the money must be earned first.

    • @Untainted313
      @Untainted313 Рік тому +1

      It’s a box

    • @Shitnugget69
      @Shitnugget69 Рік тому

      They have grown on me over the years. I used to think they're ugly, but now I think they look great.

    • @Iexpedite1
      @Iexpedite1 Рік тому

      I had an Lt1 C4 and then I bought a C6. I missed the C4.

    • @AquarianAngel
      @AquarianAngel Рік тому +1

      ​@@Untainted313A great looking box.

  • @Austin_Shredder
    @Austin_Shredder Рік тому +102

    Really enjoying all of the positivity around the C4. I bought my ‘95 in 2021 with only 12k miles and it’s been a great experience so far. Very special cars! 🔥

    • @RyGuy42089
      @RyGuy42089 Рік тому +2

      You got the best C4 because it has an LT1 in it. The 80s C4 was trash..

    • @thecozyexoticscrew4837
      @thecozyexoticscrew4837 Рік тому +1

      I have a 94 vette with About 440 whp

    • @stevenhaffley9852
      @stevenhaffley9852 Рік тому

      @@RyGuy42089 The best C4 is a ZR1, you obviously never heard of the engine that inspired the LT1, because GM was butthurt that the LT5 was better than their engine.

    • @RyGuy42089
      @RyGuy42089 Рік тому

      @@stevenhaffley9852 I'm pretty sure the LT1 is just a detuned LT5. I also believe the 96 and 97 SS had the LT5

    • @juliancoletti4073
      @juliancoletti4073 Рік тому

      @Ryan Walker no the LT5 is a whole different beast. DOHC all aluminum designed by lotus and built by Mercury

  • @LebronPhoto1
    @LebronPhoto1 Рік тому +46

    I like the styling of the C4 but the reliability (and less rattling) of the C-5.

    • @donwilber1628
      @donwilber1628 Рік тому +2

      Had my C4 from '85 to the early 90s, and it was flawless...zero issues.

    • @robwhite3241
      @robwhite3241 Рік тому +1

      @@donwilber1628 20+ years later not so much. Mine just won't die and its a tough thing don't get me wrong but I have had to do just about everything to keep it running. The radiator busted last month and I think that may be the last straw.

  • @elev8torguy130
    @elev8torguy130 Рік тому +85

    The ls1 took performance to a whole new level in its day. If you had a trans am, Camaro or vetted with an ls1 you were dominating in the late 90's early 2000's. I had three of them. Sounded awesome and fun to drive

    • @S8ER
      @S8ER Рік тому +15

      I still have my 2001 Z28 (6 speed manual) it ran 13.1 @ 108 bone stock and now it has LS6 Cam, 1 7/8 Lts and 3.90s. It's been an amazing car considering it was 23K brand new and has 223K on it now.

    • @ebkbk9902
      @ebkbk9902 Рік тому +8

      the lt4 in the 96 grandsport actually made more power then the ls1 and was underrated from factory. this comparison would of been better with a lt1/4 car not an l98.

    • @jared101502
      @jared101502 Рік тому +2

      My favorite is the 87-91 Trans Am GTA

    • @elev8torguy130
      @elev8torguy130 Рік тому +2

      @@S8ER my 1998 6 speed z28 ran 13.3 bone stock. I also had a 2002 35 anniversary convertible z28 red with tan top. Loved those cars.

    • @BlackRam17
      @BlackRam17 Рік тому +2

      Doesn’t take much to get them to 400 wheel either

  • @lhinze
    @lhinze Рік тому +13

    I really dig the 80s synth music y'all have been putting on some of these classic videos with 80s cars.

  • @donwilber1628
    @donwilber1628 Рік тому +15

    I had an '85 C4 with the 4+3 stick, and if I recall correctly, the performance figures were about 6.0 to 60, and 15 sec 1/4 mile. I was fortunate enough to have mine on the Autobahns where I saw 155mph. While those numbers are weak by today's standards, they were top of the spectrum back in the day.

    • @wesbaucom1368
      @wesbaucom1368 Рік тому

      I hit about 155 running from a cop in mine 96 c4

    • @donwilber1628
      @donwilber1628 Рік тому +1

      @@wesbaucom1368 That was top end for my ‘85, but then, you had a lot more power in ‘96. Also, over 140mph, I really needed a nice clear day and open road…things got scary near the top speed.

    • @wesbaucom1368
      @wesbaucom1368 Рік тому +1

      @@donwilber1628 when I got to my girls house I was obviously shaking and sweaty and I hit that close to that speed often. I think it was the first time running from the cops that really gave me the excitement

    • @hyperATVS
      @hyperATVS 11 місяців тому

      Look up the sledge hammer corvette! Lol

  • @dougpendleton1266
    @dougpendleton1266 Рік тому +25

    Much respect to Kase for knowingly bringing a knife to a gunfight!!

  • @dalejones4322
    @dalejones4322 Рік тому +46

    Great comparison. It'd be neat if you went to the old course and ran them around the track with all the turns. BFG or any tire company should donate some tires for the C4 to show what they can do for the old car. Great video guys

  • @27Zangle
    @27Zangle Рік тому +4

    I LOVE the C4 and digital gauges. The first memory of my grandfather was when he came to visit in a new 1988 red C4. I was about 5-6 years of age and it had left an impact with me. The very car that started my love for automobiles. After he was done visiting, he had left behind a little red plastic C4 toy.
    I would love to find an early '90s version that is a manual, dark green, and tank leather interior.

  • @TheMeanmarine13
    @TheMeanmarine13 Рік тому +5

    I love the old throwback commercials. Feels like something you would see while watching a Robo cop marathon lol

  • @d.michaelpratt5987
    @d.michaelpratt5987 Рік тому +15

    It was nice to see a couple of guys, clearly friends, saying nice things about each other and about each other’s cars.
    As a long-time Corvette guy, the satisfied owner of an ’01 C5, I will tell you this: I would happily take either of these wonderful cars in a heartbeat!

  • @ravioli2389
    @ravioli2389 Рік тому +8

    As a Corvette owner for 14 years and having a late great dad (R.I.P.) that owned over 10 Vettes in my lifetime. There is no car like a Corvette, just from the thumbnail, the C5 will beat the C4 always, because of the newer technology engine. And the 1988 C4 yall have got 1990 Vette rims on it. Good video 👍&✌

  • @jeepzjken
    @jeepzjken Рік тому +9

    Back in my younger days I had a C3(78) Corvette and that was even slower(under 200hp) but man was that car sexy.

    • @jgizzy
      @jgizzy 2 місяці тому

      I think the C3 was the most stylish of all body styles, but yet it has some sort of hatred for being a mullet-mobile. If done up correctly, the things look like works of art IMO.

  • @smykster007
    @smykster007 Рік тому +18

    I've been waiting so patiently for some C5 content! Great way to start this dreary friday!

    • @FugitiveVette
      @FugitiveVette Рік тому +1

      My channel will be having C5 content in the future

  • @GregSr
    @GregSr Рік тому +5

    I happen to own a standard C4 and a standard C5. Both are stock with automatics. I think the difference in braking came down to tire size. The stock tires on my C4 are wider than the stock tires on my C5. That additional contact area with the ground makes the difference.

  • @kirkcunningham6146
    @kirkcunningham6146 Рік тому +9

    A better comparison would have been a 95-96 LT-1 C-4. Not an early car.

    • @itsjamilagain
      @itsjamilagain Рік тому +3

      Exactly. UA-camrs love to show off the L98 which is garbage compared to the LT1 and LT4. Not to mention literally everybody knows in the 90s manual cars were much faster than automatics.

  • @getlosttoday4045
    @getlosttoday4045 Рік тому +7

    Merry Christmas!

  • @Carguylogan
    @Carguylogan Рік тому +4

    There's almost no difference in acceleration between an LT1 C4 and a LS1 C5, trans for trans. In Phoenix at 1,500' DA my stock automatic 92 Corvette did 13.80 @ 102 mph with the base 2.59 axle ratio. I actually brought my Dragy to Prescott AZ once and ran a 14.3 1/4 mile at 6,800' DA so i'm not sure why you only got 15 seconds with that C5 at that type of elevation. I had a C5 Z06 for 3 years, I've had my LT1 C4 for about a year now and I just picked up an LS2 C6 vert. I've driven a handful of auto C5s and they don't feel any different, power-wise, then my C4. I much prefer the 90-96 C4 interior over the C5 though. Definitely a cool retro cruiser.

    • @Robert-bg2nm
      @Robert-bg2nm Рік тому

      c4 interiors are too tight and rattle boxes.....c5s have big interiors and no rattles due to hydroformed frames.

    • @Carguylogan
      @Carguylogan Рік тому

      @@Robert-bg2nm Uh, C5s are known for rattles. Even my 15,000 mile Z06 had a buzz from 2 different spots. My C4 has more noises but it's also 30 years old. At least the C4 has a sports car cockpit unlike the C5. I sold my Z06 specifically because the seats were absolute trash and the car felt like a Hyundai inside. Basic and boring. It was only fun when driving fast. The C4 has much more personality and sports car feel in the cockpit, starting with the sport seats. Again, I'm referring to the 90-96 interior. I don't care for the 89 and older interiors.

    • @user-ij6mf2hp3r
      @user-ij6mf2hp3r 3 місяці тому +1

      Cool man

    • @user-ij6mf2hp3r
      @user-ij6mf2hp3r 3 місяці тому

      I agree. I believe I could launch an auto faster than I can with the clutch. It really sticks good until just before it's time to get 2nd. gear. More consistent.

  • @BlaseThreadgaming
    @BlaseThreadgaming Рік тому +1

    I just bought my 1986 Corvette and I'm so excited to get it run and Cruise

  • @morecars324
    @morecars324 Рік тому +1

    You guys make great videos really enjoy watching the comparison. I bought a 90 6 speed c4 last December so these videos have been perfect timing!

  • @AOCyrus
    @AOCyrus Рік тому +2

    I was born in 1988 and I’ve always wanted a manual 88 with red interior. Even down to the saucer wheels, this is my dream c4!

  • @bradkeeney5236
    @bradkeeney5236 Рік тому +3

    Thank you for doing that, that was fun!
    I’ve kind of lived it, as I’ve had a 69 427 (and yes it was a 435 horse one!), 88 supercharged 383, stock 90, a stock 92 six speed, which made me buy a 98 with a six speed. Six speeds are the only way to go! Well, unless you’re competitively drag racing like I was with the 88, then you need the consistency of the automatic. Finished fourth in the King Street class at Bandimere in 1997 with the 88.

  • @jendrarambharos4379
    @jendrarambharos4379 Рік тому +3

    i hope TFL is helping Case with the cost of his C4, you guys are getting a lot of good content out of it, and these constant drag runs aren't easy on cars, or his clutch!

  • @scottyellis3442
    @scottyellis3442 Рік тому +1

    Exactly what I've been wanting to see. Great video guys.

  • @jorgenunesdasilva4965
    @jorgenunesdasilva4965 Рік тому +8

    Guess that with a manual 6 speed C5 the gap would be even bigger, even nowdays
    It still feels like a fast car

    • @smykster007
      @smykster007 Рік тому +1

      yeah the auto with the 2.73 gears is rough. Best upgrade for an auto C5 would be to get your hands on some C5 manual rear gearss 3.42s.

    • @itsjamilagain
      @itsjamilagain Рік тому +1

      They should have used a manual C4 with the LT1. I don't know what these guys were doing here. In my 95 I'll drop straight from 4th to 2nd and I'm killing modern STis and S3/4s on the highway. The LT1 puts down Civic Type R numbers in 0-60 and the quarter mile.

    • @Corvolet5
      @Corvolet5 Рік тому

      Pro tip: never buy an automatic from the 90s

  • @HonJazzz
    @HonJazzz Рік тому +1

    It’s crazy to think a stock base C5 could do 175 MPH. That was huge back then and it’s still impressive today, especially for the money.

  • @jeffreywolf5235
    @jeffreywolf5235 Рік тому +2

    I had a couple c4s when they weren't cheap. The one was stock and the other one was built to the hills with 500 horsepower. What a difference. People are jumping out of the street three blocks away from me as I just came driving normally by. That's how nasty this thing sounded.

  • @ianm9853
    @ianm9853 9 місяців тому +1

    I laugh at any C4 critics. I bought mine (10k for 21k total miles in cherry condition) for such a bargain in 2022. It has so much torque, great road feel, and a classic corvette look. Chicks still turn heads and it's reasonably fast for me with good gas mileage. One of the best purchases I've made in my life.

  • @bartsullivan4866
    @bartsullivan4866 Рік тому +1

    I still love that C-5 Corvette the best looking model they every put out IMO.

  • @waltermiller249
    @waltermiller249 Рік тому +2

    Got a 95 c4 80k for 4,100. And a 99 c5 with built motor 110k for 7,300. Now prices are crazy

  • @jamesantonacci888
    @jamesantonacci888 Рік тому

    I really like the new videos! The period correct music is fantastic also. Keep up the great work and thank you for the content.

  • @cpnolto
    @cpnolto Рік тому +4

    Call me crazy but since I sold my C4 and bought a C5 I've kind of fallen back in love with the C4's. I do love my C5 but it does lack in the quirkiness department as noted. I may have to buy a c4 again. I would go for the 94-96 models however and definitely a six speed. Cool cars. Thanks for this video.

  • @extremedrivr
    @extremedrivr Рік тому +4

    I would take a C4 first because of it being Old School tech, 350SBC, and smaller in width than the C5. And I think a bit more reliable of a drivetrain too just because its the 350.
    And you can still make loads of power with a 350SBC. I like old school Chevrolet more.

    • @ebkbk9902
      @ebkbk9902 Рік тому

      exactly the lt1/lt4 corvettes came with 4 bolt mains from factory the l98 and crossfire didnt.

  • @corvetteswithbowie7529
    @corvetteswithbowie7529 Рік тому +1

    I love my 99 corvette. Has a 6 speed manual with a short shifter. It is a blast to hammer through the gears.

  • @spokentruthfully
    @spokentruthfully Рік тому +8

    In 38-45 degree weather at 2400' above sea level the 86 auto c4 I had did a 13.9 @108 mph. It had the 3.07 gear and a shortened exhaust and muffler delete. Its best 0-60 mph was 5.8 seconds. I only paid $3300 with 107000 miles. Really cant go wrong with either car though some of the simplest mods go a long ways with these cars.

    • @jeffflaig362
      @jeffflaig362 Рік тому

      Yeah I had a 89 as auto with 3.07 gears just aftermarket mufflers and went 13.70s in Ohio. The c4 and c5 should be neck and neck at the 1/8 mile but the c5 should start to creep ahead at about a1000 feet.

    • @charlesturner5195
      @charlesturner5195 Рік тому +2

      Not a chance a stock tpi car traps that high especially at elevation.

    • @jeffflaig362
      @jeffflaig362 Рік тому

      @@charlesturner5195 yeah mine would only trap right at 100

    • @danielfair4675
      @danielfair4675 Рік тому +1

      @Jeff Flaig lol, my wife had an '88 auto Vette & I had an '87 5.7 IROC ... ran them at Kil-Kare Dragway in Ohio.
      I ran faster times in the IROC than the Vette, not by much (10th's of a second), but faster.

    • @jeffflaig362
      @jeffflaig362 Рік тому

      @@danielfair4675 yeah I had mine at kilcar once ran a 13.90 there. I usually went to Edgewater or tgi state. Doesn't surprise me you ran faster in the iroc. It probably had 323 gears while the vette probably had 259 gears.

  • @n2cycles
    @n2cycles Рік тому +2

    I had a 90 C4 automatic. It ran 13.80 at seal level at 98mph. The 60ft time beat every car in the local corvette club this was in yr 2001

  • @SLVRFOX88
    @SLVRFOX88 Рік тому +5

    A 95-96 C4 would have been a better comparison to a c5. I prefer the C5 hands down but I would take a 95 ZR1

  • @JREwing78
    @JREwing78 Рік тому +28

    That was a solid demonstration of the massive progress the GM powertrain folks made between the L98 small block and the LS1. And as mind-blowing as the ZR-1's LT5 DOHC 5.7 was in 1989, the LS1 would ultimately surpass it without having to resort to a DOHC valvetrain. Although, let's be fair, the LT5 sitting in that engine bay is as bad ass as anything GM has ever produced.

    • @eurocarpleurocarpl2057
      @eurocarpleurocarpl2057 Рік тому +9

      ZR-1 is faster than LS1 C5.

    • @jeladsnikpoh1289
      @jeladsnikpoh1289 Рік тому

      LT5 is one of the most beautiful displays when popping that cool clamshell hood, but the LS (anything) is a far better performance bang for buck. The LT-5 was certainly incredible for its time and to be respected, but the the LSs used its tech and adopted it into a more user-friendly (famously known for its popularity for swaps) pushrod design. (Simpler, cheaper, lighter, lower center of gravity, smaller exterior dimensions, better low end torque, better fuel mileage).

    • @ebkbk9902
      @ebkbk9902 Рік тому +5

      late model c4 zr1s were making 405 hp 93-95 as much power as the ls6 which the c5z06 came with. It would demolish a base c5 any day wouldnt even be fair.

    • @ike01coolxd29
      @ike01coolxd29 Рік тому

      The lt5 motor in the c4 zr1 wasn't made by GM

    • @kim99jung
      @kim99jung Рік тому

      @@ike01coolxd29 designed by lotus and made by mercury marine

  • @jamesstaggs4160
    @jamesstaggs4160 Рік тому +3

    A 92-96 woulda been a better comparison. The L-98 has,gobs of torque but the runners are so short it just runs out of breath too fast. The LT engines are much closer to the LS series.

  • @z512345
    @z512345 Рік тому +4

    Why didn't you people use a 1996 C4 with the 300HP LTI instead of the anemic 1988 TPI 245 HP

    • @itsjamilagain
      @itsjamilagain Рік тому

      More importantly, 335lb/ft of tq. And because these guys are not true Vette enthusiasts. Looks like someone found an old C4 for cheap and was like "LeTs RuN iT wItH a C5".

    • @jsomething2
      @jsomething2 Рік тому

      @@itsjamilagain no way a mint condition manual c4 is cheap. and I'd take the tpi over the lt anyways day.

    • @z512345
      @z512345 Рік тому

      @@itsjamilagain Looks like.

  • @darkcornholio
    @darkcornholio Рік тому +2

    I just bought a super clean 1993 40th anniversary with 39k miles and all the original paperwork and whatnot for $14k.

  • @carllange3950
    @carllange3950 Рік тому +1

    I got to drive my friend’s 1996 C4 with the LT4 engine. It drove fine, but as with all pre-C5 Corvettes, the ergonomics didn’t work well with my 6’4” height. I considered a C5, but ended up springing for a used C6 Grand Sport.

  • @MrFcwright
    @MrFcwright Рік тому +2

    I have owned a C4 a C5 and a C 6 I love them all.

    • @mattgambrel715
      @mattgambrel715 Рік тому +1

      Me too! M5 c5 caught fire though. But currently, c3, c4, c6. Very surprised how much I love the 4.

  • @alexhodson5430
    @alexhodson5430 Рік тому +1

    The C5 Corvette was awesome I grew up on those things

  • @BrandanZmaster
    @BrandanZmaster Рік тому +1

    I own an 85 and a 93 Anniversary. Love them both. Have buddy's that think they aren't fast and that would mean they are not fun, and that couldn't be the furthest from the truth. I like my 85 a little more with the really old and retro style dash, but my 93 is an Anniversary so the color is 10/10. C5s are better than both in performance and comfort, but C5s lack the personality that C4s do. The interior of a C5 looks like a Silverado or an S10 from that area whereas in a C4 there is no mistake that you're behind the wheels of something special and unique. Great video, keep it up!

  • @richardkoch4386
    @richardkoch4386 Рік тому +1

    I understand your dilemma about which to buy. I solved it with a ‘94 convertible and an ‘02 Coupe. Love driving both!

  • @justinfahnestock5067
    @justinfahnestock5067 Рік тому +5

    I think this should continue he should have definitely did a good burnout got those tires nice and hot knowing it's cold

  • @jeladsnikpoh1289
    @jeladsnikpoh1289 Рік тому +1

    2 of the slowest examples of both generations. I do love C4s and C5s, owned one '95 LT-1 6spd C4, and two C5s (2002 with auto and 'performance' 3.15 gear ratio, and much quicker 2003 with proper 6spd). Next one will likely be another C5 6spd 2002 or newer. Simply not a true Vette experience with a 2.73 ratio slushbox, or even the 'performance' 3.15 auto. Btw, newer 2002+ manuals had a bump in torque to like 365 at lower RPM, small 5hp bump to 350, which was noticeable, but the closer ratios and more gears really made the biggest difference in acceleration. Taller top gear really improved the fuel mileage too. I easily got 40mpg taking it real easy.

    • @Robert-bg2nm
      @Robert-bg2nm Рік тому

      lol 40 mpg........maybe thats what the display said but not actual mileage.....btw close ratio 6 speeds were only z06 corvettes......i cannot believe all the comments with inaccurate info.

  • @OmegaGreedAK47
    @OmegaGreedAK47 Рік тому +2

    When I was deciding between the C4 vs C5 it all came down to the LS1. I wanted the most modern engine in the price range

  • @lappydog9020
    @lappydog9020 Рік тому

    Awsome vid. I had a 90 back in 93 and i loved it

  • @motaz1975
    @motaz1975 Рік тому +4

    c5 still looks good and modern. c5/6 were the best looking modern vettes in my opinion. c7/8 are to angular looking.

    • @MrKeef23
      @MrKeef23 Рік тому

      Facts

    • @itsjamilagain
      @itsjamilagain Рік тому +1

      They picked the pre-refresh C4. The LT1 is *gorgeous* in person. I chose it over the C5 and couldn't be happier.

  • @vetteluvnh
    @vetteluvnh Рік тому +1

    THIS is what I love to see!

  • @noahreinhardt2909
    @noahreinhardt2909 Рік тому +11

    I own both models a 1989 and a 2004, ill take the c5 any day of the week it’s more comfortable to drive around in day to day compared to the c4 and just noticeably faster definitely a big difference when you drive them back to back.

    • @alphacapo
      @alphacapo Рік тому +1

      C5 doesn't have the cool 80s looks

    • @chrisskljavinsh3966
      @chrisskljavinsh3966 5 місяців тому

      I definitely prefer the C4 looks, especially the front end. Sure the C5 has more power over the C4, but they are both no supercars in comparison to modern cars or even some that were available back when the C5 was being built. Having owned and driven faster cars than any of those 2, I would prefer the C4

  • @scotturich
    @scotturich Рік тому +2

    Great Video guys. Now I just need to complete my 2001 weird car collection. Already have the 911, need a C5 and a Honda Prelude SH and I would have the trifecta for me🤣

  • @pauldevassy2379
    @pauldevassy2379 Рік тому +3

    I had an 87 with the L98 engine. Fun car, but had a huge breathing problem - not much after 4000 RPM. The clamshell hood was awesome, too bad it went away.

    • @BlackRam17
      @BlackRam17 Рік тому

      Yep. Fall on their face after 4500. Headers, IAT relocation, and throttle body coolant bypass helps.

  • @DoctorHemi
    @DoctorHemi Рік тому

    In my mind, in 1992, when the C4s got the LT1 ('92-'96), that was the moment when American V8s finally made their way back out of the emissions dark ages. Then in '96 when all 6-spd manual C4s got the LT4, that was even better...and then, of course, the LS1 in '97 just sealed the deal.

  • @Toys4Life
    @Toys4Life Рік тому

    Fun video! - thanks for making! One minor correction, rear end gear in the auto C5 is usually 2.73.

  • @R.Nelson
    @R.Nelson Рік тому +2

    Went for a ride in my next door nieghbours C4...he kept complaining how it was under- powered...he didn't have it very long.

  • @jdangberg
    @jdangberg Рік тому +1

    I own a 90 6speed and a 2001 Z06. The C4 is more relaxing to drive street because it is not secretly plotting to kill me.

  • @Brandon-ll3ff
    @Brandon-ll3ff Рік тому +1

    Had a 1994 with 36,000 miles. Biggest problem for them is aftermarket support and next to nothing for tuning. You end up spending 2500 to 3k just to upgrade engine management to allow easy tuning for future mods.

  • @Tacticoolpapi
    @Tacticoolpapi Рік тому +7

    Love these videos because its obtainable performance. Please keep them coming ! How about the same comparison with a New edge mustang gt and mach1, vs the 3v mustang ?

    • @331Grabber
      @331Grabber Рік тому +2

      I have an 03 Mach 1. I've done those comparisons on the street :)

  • @diesel_enduro
    @diesel_enduro 8 днів тому

    Homeboy in the C4 had to make sure to force the fact that the C5 had an aftermarket exhaust LOL

  • @johnsonckchu
    @johnsonckchu Рік тому +5

    there is no best generation Corvette in real world all depends on which generation you grow up from

  • @David-li4uw
    @David-li4uw Рік тому +3

    Love the C4. Especially the LT4.

    • @dirtsoap9333
      @dirtsoap9333 Рік тому

      There's a big reason they didn't use an LT1 or lt4 car.

  • @walterhubicki5207
    @walterhubicki5207 Рік тому

    Love these vids!!

  • @jakerazmataz852
    @jakerazmataz852 Рік тому +2

    4:10 Super cold outside is ALWAYS a performance plus

    • @tlmessage9196
      @tlmessage9196 Рік тому

      If they've both got summer tires, they're never gonna grip.

  • @whatchalookin429
    @whatchalookin429 Рік тому +16

    It's not only your C4, mine had some of the best stock brakes I have ever used. Rock solid pedal, with good tires they could damn near check your head off the steering wheel😅 Not suprised it beat the C5

    • @daveds50
      @daveds50 Рік тому +1

      Actually, put some good equal tires and brake pads on both, and the C5 wins in braking. Both my 1996 C4 manual, and my 2000 C5 manual were running Bridgestone RE71R tires in a 275/35/18 in front, and 315/30/18 rear, and Hawk HP+ brake pads all around. the C5 was considerably better at braking, but not as good as my C5 Z06 with the same setup. Makes sense as the C5's are lighter cars.

  • @Cartier_specialist
    @Cartier_specialist Рік тому +9

    The C5 is the first Corvette I really wanted to own. They will get 30 mpg on the highway so how could you not like that?

    • @midnight347
      @midnight347 Рік тому

      Yea they get 30 on the highway with a 277 gear or something and a tall 6th gear and very slippery aero which has as much to do with that highway mpg as anything. Around town you'll be lucky to see mid teens.

    • @davidgoodwin6997
      @davidgoodwin6997 Рік тому +1

      @@midnight347 all 6 speed C5’s had 3.42 gears. I also get low 20’s in the city easily.

  • @FrankyRedEyes
    @FrankyRedEyes Рік тому +1

    Tommy is the only guy I've ever heard who has added the words V 8 to the small block Chevy moniker.

  • @thecozyexoticscrew4837
    @thecozyexoticscrew4837 Рік тому +1

    C4’s have the best suspension out of all the corvette models

  • @waggitnshaggit6592
    @waggitnshaggit6592 Рік тому +1

    C5 looks like it’s retaining water next to the sleek chiseled C4 for me

  • @beaches2mountains230
    @beaches2mountains230 Рік тому

    AS A KID I USED TO WORK AT A CORVETTE SPECIALITY SHOP DURING THE HOLIDAY AND SUMMER BREAKS..I REMEMBER THE DOOR SILLS IN THE C4 WERE A PAIN IN THE ARSE EVEN FOR MY (AT THE TIME) YOUNG ASS. C5 SEEMED SO MUCH BETTER WHEN IT CAME OUT IN 98'.

  • @rjoetting7594
    @rjoetting7594 Рік тому +6

    I wonder how much closer it would be if the C4 was the later LT1 engine 1992/1996 300 HP at 5,000 RPM ; Torque: 340 lb-ft at 3,600 rpm.
    My 1993 had a little less than 69,000 miles when I bought it 6 months ago for $7,000 garage kept and very well maintained.
    I should add mine also automatic
    I'm looking for a C5 now to add to the stable, a base coupe preferably 2001 to 2003.
    I'll just take my time and wait for the best deal for the money.

    • @robvas
      @robvas Рік тому

      LT1 would get smoked

    • @ebkbk9902
      @ebkbk9902 Рік тому +1

      @@robvas lt1 was underrated and if you didnt know no LS manual car has ever been 6s in the 1/4 yet grubbworm went 6s with a lt1 🤣😂🤣😂

    • @Robert-bg2nm
      @Robert-bg2nm Рік тому

      just a little closer but no cigar

  • @l042987
    @l042987 Рік тому +1

    I love these guys together best 2 on tfl

  • @deadlybladesmith3093
    @deadlybladesmith3093 Рік тому +2

    Great video! Should've thrown a cheap C3 into the mix!

  • @alfredcorralesiii6660
    @alfredcorralesiii6660 Рік тому +3

    Maybe a 92 c4 LT1 may have been a little closer 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @Short_Bus
    @Short_Bus Рік тому +2

    That must have been a late '80s early 90s commercial vocals. The voice sounded a lot like Reagan. That tends to be in our advertising culture, have your announcers have similar voices and sometimes faces to iconic figures.

  • @jfrank8348
    @jfrank8348 Рік тому +2

    The C5 is easier to get in and out of because it has a transaxle, more foot room.

  • @Joose
    @Joose Рік тому +3

    I wish that C4 had the LT1... but it's still rad.

  • @speedracerjeff
    @speedracerjeff Рік тому +2

    A better comparison would’ve been a LT4 or LT1 C4 vs a C5….
    Yeah there’s no contest between the LS1 and the L98 lol. I owned a 88 C4 coupe, good torque but falls on its face in 3rd gear. The L98 has no top end.

  • @30smsuperstrat
    @30smsuperstrat Рік тому +2

    Its time for performance mods and see which comes out ahead.

  • @reallyemptypockets6509
    @reallyemptypockets6509 Рік тому +3

    Love the black one more.

  • @diplexnormal3353
    @diplexnormal3353 Рік тому

    I have a 1986 c4 and the only issue with it as of right now is a bad headlight motor that needs to be repaired to replaced, bad suspension (which was already notoriously bad), and oil burning on a cold start (mostly likely rubber valve seals). other than that, I love my car and she’s amazing for age that she is.

  • @mr.boostang2064
    @mr.boostang2064 Рік тому +1

    I had raced my FBO ls1 Z28 against a head and cam 5.7 Iroc Z Camaro, both raced we were equal up until 60ish where the ls1 would start to pull ahead. That same z28 beat two 2011-2012 5.0s from a dig and roll. Ls1s were no joke, still miss that car

    • @midnight347
      @midnight347 Рік тому +1

      You beat the drivers more than likely. Going from a dig is more about driver, gearing, and traction on the street in particular. Even from a roll you shouldn't be pulling away from even stock 11-12 5.0s unless you're also cammed then ya I could see it. Just fbo the 5.0 should still have the advantage but it's close enough to be a driver race meaning better driver will take it.

    • @midnight347
      @midnight347 Рік тому

      If the 5.0 was also bolt on with equal driver it'll walk an ls1.

    • @mr.boostang2064
      @mr.boostang2064 Рік тому

      @Lil' Ike both 5.0s and my z28 were automatic so no miss shifts can be blamed. My 2000 z28 had 3.42 gears, LT headers, ls6 intake manifold, fasttoys ram air kit, custom 93 Diablo tune, 275 NT555 all around. One 5.0 had catback and the other had catback and intake.
      Yes stock to stock the 5.0 is faster, it is a much newer engine with much better tech behind it. My point was that with a few mods a ls1 can still hurt feelings.

    • @fieldsmontgomery9470
      @fieldsmontgomery9470 Рік тому

      @@midnight347 You are exactly right on !!

  • @sharonw2475
    @sharonw2475 Рік тому +1

    Of course the C4 stopped shorter because it was going slower. I've owned both models and there just isn't any comparison between the two, the C5 will blow the doors off a C4 all day long. Also wait until those digital lights in the C4's dash start to fade or burn out, then you have a big pain in the arsh to repair/replace them, and they will fade.

  • @xnadave
    @xnadave Рік тому

    "My tires are really old." Later, "The braking system is perfect." Love the video - get some tires.

  • @ebkbk9902
    @ebkbk9902 Рік тому +2

    this comparison would of been alot better with a lt1/lt4 you cant compare a early year c4 to a c5. c4's are the longest stretch of generation corvette with the 84 being crossfire...

  • @edwardepps1513
    @edwardepps1513 Рік тому +1

    I used to own an '85 (C4) and I currently own an '02 (C5). Both cars were stock both non Z51 but the C4 felt more raw while the C5 felt more computerized. I loved the dashboard of the '85 and even the ride quality. What I didn't like of my '85 was the build quality. The '02 is a much faster car better build quality, and better engine LS1. The C5 in this video is doesn't have the optional fog lights (like my C5 don't have) but it's standard on the C4.
    I'm wondering if you guys would do a comparison of these two Vettes versus a C6 non Z51 in a 3 way race. Also I wished you guys did a 0-60 comparison on these Vettes.
    Keep up the good work!

  • @davidmckinney8423
    @davidmckinney8423 Рік тому

    Ive owned an 85' and a 99'. I enjoyed the C5 more but I paid a quarter of the price for my C4. It had issues, both cars are for sure showing age, Ive enjoyed them both a lot.

  • @DonutGuard
    @DonutGuard Рік тому

    The LS1 was a beast, but the Tuned Port SBC was close to the peak of what you could get out of one of those old motors.
    The king of the original SBC engine award goes to the LT1. Yes, I know it was "technically" Gen 2 but it's also technically not. An LT1 Vette vs the TPI Vette would have been a great matchup.

  • @lolguppyo
    @lolguppyo 11 місяців тому +1

    Just got a C4!!!

  • @kenny49494949
    @kenny49494949 Рік тому

    In case anyone is curious, a naturally aspirated engine loses about 3% of horse power for every 1000 feet in elevation, so at 5280 ft these engines have around 15% less power than at sea level.

  • @pimprijs5358
    @pimprijs5358 Рік тому +1

    You guys should try 2 of the same cars, one with low fuel and one with high fuel and see how much faster the low fuel car is

  • @Zephc4
    @Zephc4 2 місяці тому

    I can tell those tires were giving him some hell. I have brand new 285 sections on the rear as opposed to the 255 that came on it and just a normal intake + full exhaust and I'm running circles around c5s and some c6 grand sports

  • @ramieperkins8113
    @ramieperkins8113 Рік тому +1

    Great video ,, as if we all didn’t know what the outcome would be . I would have liked to have seen a slalom . I own a L-82 C-3 . I must say that the C4 is a far better car overall for the performance. Style wise the C3 IMO is the best looking of all the Vettes . Hands down the best bang for the buck nowadays is the C6 .

  • @musclecarfan74
    @musclecarfan74 Рік тому +1

    My friend had a black 2000 model with a 6sp that he bought in 2010 from a co-worker who had dome some mods to it. It definitely threw you back in your seat. I just couldn't get in and out of the car that easily do to how low it was. My 1992 Firebird was easier, He had a 1992 Formula 350 prior to the Vette in the 90's. I got mine soon after not knowing the difference in models.

  • @speedfiend925
    @speedfiend925 Рік тому +2

    A better comparison would be a C4 with the Grand Sport Engine vs a C5 Hatchback. 😁

  • @josels1292
    @josels1292 Рік тому +2

    I always use a fishing line on my GoPro just incase this happens. Small piece that way it will hang next to the car not go rolling away.