Spot on Rowan. A stupid policy and a stupid liberal party who had the election in the bag. We can only hope that one nation and uap etc have the balance of power.
Personally I am very pleased that the Liberal Part have so clearly outed themselves. NO vote from me....EVER again....well certainly not for the Liberal Party. Gutless. Stupid. The absolute worst quinella possible in politics.
@guyfanno1 No child has any right to any sort of free speech. All Australians as a result have a certain level of freedom speech as derived from English common law. Happy for a Bill of rights to be inserted into the constitution anytime.
What if one or more of your grandchildren doesn’t want to use social media? Do you expect them to use it for your convenience? Pick up the phone or heaven forbid, go visit them.
One of the things they did not think of is police and emergency services use social media to send out alerts and reports during natural disasters to inform people when to evacuate and also about missing persons. Young people will find a way around it no doubt but will older less tech savvy, disabled or aged people?
An Australian Bill of Rights is what we need. Because Labor and Liberal don't give a rats arse about Constitutionally guaranteed rights or Treaty and Convections Australia is a signatory to
I think he taking One Nation for granted also.. He must really hate Australians having personal Liberty's 🗽 like parental control over their own children..
I’m 17 about to turn 18 very soon but I still feel bad for under 16s. I can see that this is going to be a lot worse when the ban actually happens next year.
I’d rather be disappointed than live in a socialist state with no free speech, there is the difference. And with most people and the media saying the u16 laws were a good idea would have been hard for Libs to back out, damed if you do, damed if you don’t. Let’s face it this is never going to work just makes Labour look like they are doing something.
@@Aussie-Nan That’s what it is, a token gesture. And we have the first government in the world to acknowledge that social media is unsuitable for children, which is about 15 years too late. This is more than just a Trojan horse to introduce digital ID, there’s endless ways they can impose that on society. Imagine being a grandmother and not understanding that 😞
They get fined. But don't stress, kids will find a way to get online and it's realistically a good exercise. They need to learn how to fight tyranny at an early age.
They normalized the Internet to all and now they trying to back pedal. Way to late also there was nothing about online gaming platforms which is another form of social media. They just want more control. 1984
Totally agree. The coalition should have opposed this bill. They have broken my trust. What would we do without minds like Matt Canavan representing us? He stood firm on his position and I think he was one of very few liberals who did the right thing.
Why they doing it? As they both sold out Australians to overseas identity's, they don't work for Australians, both got wings ooff the same bird, thats why we seen them work together.
Labor played the Liberal Party perfectly, placing Labor in a strong position for the next election. Labor has now revealed Dutton and the Liberal Party for what they truly are: socialists, just like Labor. At least Labor is honest about what they represent. No conservative will vote for a conservative party that supports left-wing ideology. Labor currently has a good chance of winning the next election, with independents gaining significant ground as well. Labor outsmarted the LNP on this social media ban for all.
You have it 100% completely ass backwards. In fact they are both FASCIST - ie. CORPORATE CAPITALIST - neither are socialist in the slightest. They are both managing the economy on behalf of the nobility / plutocracy / oligarchy - ie. the HYPER RICH billionaire to trillionaire corporates and banks - ie. the PRIVATE owners of the economic pie (billionaires to trillionaires) - the very definition of capitalism. Socialism means PUBLIC ownership of the economic pie and is the solution to this fascist tyranny.
Labor honest 😂😂😂 They are a communist party they have been since 1893 The liberals are called liberal because they are socialist We need a conservative representation in this country now more than ever
Here we have a Primister who can't answer a simple question on anything .....anything. Albo is more concerned about his EGO and travel holidays plus perks of government than any policy . He is about setting up friends with plush jobs and building the yellow brick road to his 4.5 million dollar mansions for his rent a girlfriend because she is a coasty 😊
As for Dutton - this is next level stupid. I sometimes think his background as a police officer means he sees too many problems the way a policeman on the front lines might: "This would be way easier if such and such was illegal in the first place."
As the legal parent of my child , I say that she can go on and not the fools that are supposed to be working for me !!!! in the words of the great Donald J Trump... " YOUR FIRED !!!!! "
The focus group was probably a big echo chamber, stacked with people who agree with them. Bc they don’t want to hear what people think they want the illusion of consultation.
One Nation or Rennicks new People First party, he also has some very good plans to rid us of the elites; the WEF, WHO, UN, EU, Paris Accord, Net Zero, Climate BS, Renewables scam & ending Politicians Huge never ending pensions, to stop wasting & giving away our money and resources, and to use defence personnel & resources to fix & rebuild road infrastrucure again. We need a complete govt reform, too much corruption, get rid of the uni party & Greens, give more power to the independents & MAGA.
There’s a quote I’m very fond of that applies here “Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed or slaves” Is there one things Australians are good at it’s doing nothing while their governments turn them into slaves.
Dutton & Albot need to be Charged for Promoting ,Inciting while causing Hatred & Division within & amongst Families with this U16 social media overreach !?
It's about control. Victoria's new poker machine laws will be another nail in the coffin for the sensible among us. If you're a criminal or illicit drug user you're all good though.
Totally Illegal and total Violation of the Common law!!! Totally Unjust, thereby making it Invalid!!! “Unjust Laws are Invalid laws and Not To Be Followed!” “Rebellion to Tyranny is Obedience to God!” - Both Quotes, Thomas Jefferson
What's it all about??? Preserving the Uni-party as the ultimate ruling power. All that ''keeping children safe'' is just rubbish they tell the peasants to keep them complacent.
@@valerie11112 thats been given up since parents lost there right to discipline there child through physical force. This gen and the next have no respect for there parents let alone anyone else.
Prohibition created the mafia Thanks a lot. Cannabis bans lead to hard drug addiction. Thanks a lot.( note : in order to supposedly prevent people from progressing to hard drugs cannabis was banned, by doing so the supply was placed in the hands of criminals who make more profit selling harder drugs, Do the Math) What will this dystopian internet access ban lead to ? I'm sure we will be very thankful
No. Just no. Aussie living in UK here. Every parent in my school is presently admiring Australia and hoping it will come in in all other countries. Which it seems it will. Why? Because when you have children you suddenly see how obvious and dangerous the effect is. Not just in terms of learning development, mental acuity, and behavioural degradation linked to addiction (cue tantrums) - but also the perils around mental health and child pornography. My friend is a child psychologist and has explained the cases to me. I didn’t see it before but now I understand that it’s more dangerous than smoking. Seems extreme- but yes. Can I say in conclusion that I normally agree with your panels’ views but in this case - no I cannot agree.
Even if your point is valid, it still doesn't justify the government getting involved. We have governments to combat criminals, terrorists and aggressive foreign nations. It's there to protect our natural rights from violation. Government doesn't exist to do your own parenting for you! It doesn't exist to do 95% of what governments presently do, in fact. We are FAR from the actual role of government. Government has been massively misused.
Spot on Rowan. A stupid policy and a stupid liberal party who had the election in the bag. We can only hope that one nation and uap etc have the balance of power.
"It's all about control." Those last four words sum this nonsense up succinctly.
Never forget what both sides of the politifilth have done to us!
"Works into the push for digital IDs, cashless society, and shut the fuck up or its off to jail."
We don't want any of those shackles .
Government should control the country, not the lives of it's people.
Lol they already know everything about you..
It's maskirovka under the guise of "protecting the children". What it really is, is a prelude to compulsory digital ID's.
💯 correct
@@darkstars-torpedoes-of-truth And a social credit scheme.
And we all know it, including Dutton.
Good old communist australia
This is to shut the adults up to so we can't talk on forums like this!!
Personally I am very pleased that the Liberal Part have so clearly outed themselves.
NO vote from me....EVER again....well certainly not for the Liberal Party.
Gutless.
Stupid.
The absolute worst quinella possible in politics.
Spot on! Vote Independent
Yes they have shown their true colours. I will not be voting for either party.
We need a constitutional right to free speech to fix this
no 8 year old has a constitutional right to free speech.
@@pwillis1589 16?
Well shouting is all you got, because Australians have been disarmed just for this agenda.
@guyfanno1 No child has any right to any sort of free speech. All Australians as a result have a certain level of freedom speech as derived from English common law. Happy for a Bill of rights to be inserted into the constitution anytime.
@@guyfanno1 Are you implying a 16 year old is an adult?
The AUSTRALIAN SWAMP! MAGA AUSTRALIA!!!!!!!
Do you support corporations getting richer? While everyday Aussies go homeless? Coz that's what sky news supports
🙄 it was never free money 🦠
"Australia! remember when bringing in the Cane Toad and rabbits was a sparkling idea?"
don't need a very long memory to remember when locking kids in their homes and forcing them to use social media for school was a 'good idea'!🤣🤣
@@totalsceptic health minister would conclude you need your Pfizer booster ASAP...apparently the mercury will help you forget.
Stupid excuse to get more control.
Let parents look after their own kids and monitor their social media access, not the bloody government!!!!!
CONTROL, CONTROL CONTROL
Protect protect protect
@@valerie11112: Delusion delusion delusion.
Good good good
What do Australians think they will get when they vote for communists?
Oh yeah no hyperbole there at all , just reasonable balanced comment.
This was a slimy way to force all Australians to use the Digital ID using the age old guise of 'Oh PLEASE wont someone think of the Children!"
As a nanna who lives far from 8 of my grandchildren under 16, the labor and liberal national party has banned and alienated me from my grandchildren.
They need to video call you or see you in person
I live 1400 miles away from my grandmother
Both of them and I video call
What if one or more of your grandchildren doesn’t want to use social media? Do you expect them to use it for your convenience? Pick up the phone or heaven forbid, go visit them.
@@kermitthehermit9588 that’s what I was saying
Or are you responding to the main post?
@@Pandabubba9 responding to the main post. Irritated me because I’ve had some family members who cut me off because I don’t use friggin’ Facebook.
You can use messenger still dont stress
One of the things they did not think of is police and emergency services use social media to send out alerts and reports during natural disasters to inform people when to evacuate and also about missing persons. Young people will find a way around it no doubt but will older less tech savvy, disabled or aged people?
An Australian
Bill of Rights is what we need.
Because Labor and Liberal don't give a rats arse about Constitutionally guaranteed rights or Treaty and Convections Australia is a signatory to
NZ has bill of righta but they just ignore it
@@HunkyMan777 Sounds like it was written badly, if it's not strictly enforced.
This proved they are one party - we have to vote them both out. Bring Reform to Australia!
Imagine another lockdown and kids do not have social media to stay connected with friends. They will feel even more isolated and lonely....
Hey, look on the bright side...Labour have just given an entire generation of future voters a reason to never vote Labor....ever....lol
So have the other half of the uniparty.
Dutton blew a decent margin by helping the 16 ban bill.
He's already lost a lot of Voters😂
So if you all think Labour is still a good choice for this country, you’re not really very smart are you.
@@Aussie-NanAustralia is already finished and beyond help.
Australia doesn't have a decent government anymore we're all screwed ⚰️✝️🙏🏽
I think he taking One Nation for granted also.. He must really hate Australians having personal Liberty's 🗽 like parental control over their own children..
Time to stop voting for the lab,lib uniparty and vote One Nation and independents let's change the balance of power.
Another reason this government has to go! 🙄
Libs voted it in as well. Never trust a poly
I thought I would vote for Dutton but a serious rethink is in order!
The DIGITAL ID is what scares me.
This is digital ID by stealth. The despicable part is implementing it under the guise of " protecting children."
Anyone who thinks their are 2 parties will hopefully now see they are all the same.
They don’t want us crazy conspiracy theorists to be able to question if a virus knows if you’re sitting or dancing at a wedding 🤔☺️😕🤦♂️
Ill-advised: will need to be withdrawn next year.
I'm voting Liberal, Greens, and Labor last. One Nation first
Along with 7% of the population, good luck with that.
The Nanny country
I’m 17 about to turn 18 very soon but I still feel bad for under 16s. I can see that this is going to be a lot worse when the ban actually happens next year.
I'm voting one nation
The kids will hack it, don’t worry.
Absolutely. 😂😂😂
My kids will find a way to get access inside 24 hours, guarantee it. ......and they aren't rocket scientists either.
Responsible parents will stop them
@@deanhall6045 And exactly who will they be contacting?
Dutton is so authoritarian he would rather support this ban fully than even think twice about it.
PETER DUTTON LOOKS WEAK UNLIKE TRUMP AND ELON MUSK.
SO CLUELESS 😡😡😖😖😠😠😠
The Liberal Party s a whole is very disappointing. Labor is a disaster but are the Liberals so different?
hmmm....🤔🤔🤔🤔
I’d rather be disappointed than live in a socialist state with no free speech, there is the difference. And with most people and the media saying the u16 laws were a good idea would have been hard for Libs to back out, damed if you do, damed if you don’t. Let’s face it this is never going to work just makes Labour look like they are doing something.
@Aussie-Nan the liberals could've very easily explained why this is a stupid idea and will have got majority support just like with the mad bill.
Lab,lib,,,,the uniparty
@@Aussie-Nan That’s what it is, a token gesture. And we have the first government in the world to acknowledge that social media is unsuitable for children, which is about 15 years too late. This is more than just a Trojan horse to introduce digital ID, there’s endless ways they can impose that on society.
Imagine being a grandmother and not understanding that 😞
What if parents give them permission to go on it?
They get fined. But don't stress, kids will find a way to get online and it's realistically a good exercise. They need to learn how to fight tyranny at an early age.
The Uniparty. Neither side represents us.
Time for a change. Lets give Pauline Hanson a go. Im sure she will do better than these clowns that are destroying Australia as we speak.
Not enough people will vote for her, too many multicultural voters see her as racist.
They normalized the Internet to all and now they trying to back pedal. Way to late also there was nothing about online gaming platforms which is another form of social media. They just want more control. 1984
Is is so shameful and discustimg from the liberal government to agreed to this bill.
SHAME ON ALBANESE AND PETER DUTTON!!!! 😈🤬😡💩
#freeAustralia ⛓️💥
Totally agree. The coalition should have opposed this bill. They have broken my trust. What would we do without minds like Matt Canavan representing us? He stood firm on his position and I think he was one of very few liberals who did the right thing.
How are you going to enforce this? 1984 anyone? Try invading my home and seeing what my kids have on their phones, you'll need reinforcements.
It is primitive reactionary government at its worst.
Hear you bro. Had my 'hunting rig' on today just for fun... True story
Dutton needs to say they made a mistake with this, AND RIGHT NOW! Then say that they will repeal it if elected.
Why they doing it? As they both sold out Australians to overseas identity's, they don't work for Australians, both got wings ooff the same bird, thats why we seen them work together.
Labor played the Liberal Party perfectly, placing Labor in a strong position for the next election. Labor has now revealed Dutton and the Liberal Party for what they truly are: socialists, just like Labor. At least Labor is honest about what they represent. No conservative will vote for a conservative party that supports left-wing ideology. Labor currently has a good chance of winning the next election, with independents gaining significant ground as well. Labor outsmarted the LNP on this social media ban for all.
The uniparty are their own opposition.
Vote One Nation and independents....not teals.
You have it 100% completely ass backwards. In fact they are both FASCIST - ie. CORPORATE CAPITALIST - neither are socialist in the slightest. They are both managing the economy on behalf of the nobility / plutocracy / oligarchy - ie. the HYPER RICH billionaire to trillionaire corporates and banks - ie. the PRIVATE owners of the economic pie (billionaires to trillionaires) - the very definition of capitalism. Socialism means PUBLIC ownership of the economic pie and is the solution to this fascist tyranny.
Labor honest 😂😂😂
They are a communist party they have been since 1893
The liberals are called liberal because they are socialist
We need a conservative representation in this country now more than ever
7:00 half the over 60's are asking their 12-15yr old family members to help them with the internet.
Here we have a Primister who can't answer a simple question on anything .....anything. Albo is more concerned about his EGO and travel holidays plus perks of government than any policy . He is about setting up friends with plush jobs and building the yellow brick road to his 4.5 million dollar mansions for his rent a girlfriend because she is a coasty 😊
All the while silencing any criticism of him. Itsh hish style.
"Squeesey is too busy shaking contributors hands to be bothered by the policy details..."
Ain't that the truth. Social climbing houso soon to be a " coastie. " 🤮
As for Dutton - this is next level stupid. I sometimes think his background as a police officer means he sees too many problems the way a policeman on the front lines might: "This would be way easier if such and such was illegal in the first place."
Congrats Albozo ! Karen is now in charge of social media.
As the legal parent of my child , I say that she can go on and not the fools that are supposed to be working for me !!!!
in the words of the great Donald J Trump... " YOUR FIRED !!!!! "
The focus group was probably a big echo chamber, stacked with people who agree with them. Bc they don’t want to hear what people think they want the illusion of consultation.
The ripple effect of unintended consequences from this are going to be mind boggling.
One Nation is looking more like an attractive option due to the Liberal Party's lack of differance from Labour.
One Nation or Rennicks new People First party, he also has some very good plans to rid us of the elites; the WEF, WHO, UN, EU, Paris Accord, Net Zero, Climate BS, Renewables scam & ending Politicians Huge never ending pensions, to stop wasting & giving away our money and resources, and to use defence personnel & resources to fix & rebuild road infrastrucure again.
We need a complete govt reform, too much corruption, get rid of the uni party & Greens, give more power to the independents & MAGA.
Vote One Nation.
Hell is a place on earth
Yes, literally underground, beneath our feet, away and hidden from natural daylight, away from full exposure except to the faithful eye.
@chilenitaprotrump 😂🙏 if you say so
U16's eh..........look out for mission creep down the track
My view exactly. Dutton should go.
Could not agree more, we already have a dumb PM, we don't need another one.
There’s a quote I’m very fond of that applies here
“Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed or slaves”
Is there one things Australians are good at it’s doing nothing while their governments turn them into slaves.
They are into the 🎪 too much. They have their sand, beach, waves and BBQ. Also reality tv
LIBERAL...MEANS one who liberates you of your freedoms...
The government is not the child's parent. This is what the parent is supposed to do, not the government.
Dutton & Albot need to be Charged for Promoting ,Inciting while causing Hatred & Division within & amongst Families with this U16 social media overreach !?
if Dutton gets in next year he needs to own up and say he got this wrong and rip this bill up !!! Australia is not China, this new law is a joke
Except he won't cause he's a WEF puppet following orders from his master's !?
This is too cruel.
That's the plan.
It's about control. Victoria's new poker machine laws will be another nail in the coffin for the sensible among us. If you're a criminal or illicit drug user you're all good though.
Well said Rohan
Pushing Australian's back to msm propaganda.
Can't wait when it Fails 😂
Totally Illegal and total Violation of the Common law!!!
Totally Unjust, thereby making it Invalid!!!
“Unjust Laws are Invalid laws and Not To Be Followed!”
“Rebellion to Tyranny is Obedience to God!”
- Both Quotes,
Thomas Jefferson
What's it all about??? Preserving the Uni-party as the ultimate ruling power. All that ''keeping children safe'' is just rubbish they tell the peasants to keep them complacent.
Australia isn't run by any of our PMs anyway lol
Access to corn? Yes.
Access to different opinions? NO!!
The fuq?
This will be the biggest 'dog catches the car' moment in modern Australian history.
That’s the frustration. You expect the opposition to not support major bills like this. Who are we to get behind now!? It’s stupidity
Liberal and labour both need to go.....
You are being generous to the extreme, suggesting that this legislation was at any time well-intentioned. Never was.
Alcohol hurts more people directly tgan social media hurts indirectly... Will the Australian government submit an abolition bill for all Australians?
Calling it a trial. They don't know if it will even work. So it may not even last.
A full ban is not right. An ideal system would be having parental control in the contacts and only they can approve and block not the government.
What parents ? Good parents would not let them have social media.
@@valerie11112 thats been given up since parents lost there right to discipline there child through physical force. This gen and the next have no respect for there parents let alone anyone else.
Paternalist authoritarians prefer big nanny state government to be the parent for all children, rather than the actual parents. It's sick.
Can Matt be the new opposition leader please.
Al-pinocchio wouldn't know what day it is! He's still "travelling in the car" 🚗
So how are they going to enforce it?
Street SWEEPERS REQUESTED IN PARLIAMENT PLEASE 😡
Next PUNTER,,,, please
It's more like, to stop people getting fat, stop selling food!
Our world is going to end, if we cannot tell lies to kids ?
THIS IS AN OLD MAN SHOUTS AT CLOUDS MEME POLICY.
Dutton really showed his true colours on this; just as untrustworthy as the others
The really sad thing is that Dutton is to stupid to know what he's done
Prohibition created the mafia
Thanks a lot.
Cannabis bans lead to hard drug addiction. Thanks a lot.( note : in order to supposedly prevent people from progressing to hard drugs cannabis was banned, by doing so the supply was placed in the hands of criminals who make more profit selling harder drugs, Do the Math)
What will this dystopian internet access ban lead to ?
I'm sure we will be very thankful
"Australia began as a penal colony and bartered in rum...we can overcome Squeesey Albanese and Dutton the Button!"
Wasn’t education and keeping kids safe online part of eSafety remit - what did they actually do and where did all that money we gave them go?
Soviet Union Australia.
CCP
Albo is not my daddy. Nor is he my big brother…
Priests and other people have a right of free speech, and can oppose this subtle manipulation of the masses.
Foreign travellers visiting Australia will have to have this to access social media while in Australia ... I wonder how that will play out
I think it's a great idea because the young ones don't know how to use these platforms responsibly. In fact, make it under 25.
You are dead right Roland
No. Just no. Aussie living in UK here. Every parent in my school is presently admiring Australia and hoping it will come in in all other countries. Which it seems it will. Why? Because when you have children you suddenly see how obvious and dangerous the effect is. Not just in terms of learning development, mental acuity, and behavioural degradation linked to addiction (cue tantrums) - but also the perils around mental health and child pornography. My friend is a child psychologist and has explained the cases to me. I didn’t see it before but now I understand that it’s more dangerous than smoking. Seems extreme- but yes.
Can I say in conclusion that I normally agree with your panels’ views but in this case - no I cannot agree.
Even if your point is valid, it still doesn't justify the government getting involved. We have governments to combat criminals, terrorists and aggressive foreign nations. It's there to protect our natural rights from violation. Government doesn't exist to do your own parenting for you! It doesn't exist to do 95% of what governments presently do, in fact. We are FAR from the actual role of government. Government has been massively misused.