7:04 Something that I have observed on some of my own wacky experiments is that, with a heavy enough projectile, you can extrude a sabot or pusher plate out around it. I shot 50BMG projectiles on top of sabot bases for 50AE/500S&W projectiles out of a 12ga and the polymer components were actually smashed into the annular space around the projectile and separated entirely in some cases. Just something to keep an eye out for signs of. Edit: oh, you guys figured it out. Just throw a thick washer in there as a pusher plate, that should work.
Seems like the best approach with tungsten would be to jacket it, or cast it in, or press fit it in as a core, into brass. If you're spinning it, and have the ability to have the tungsten machined, I'd take some notes from the Lehigh Extreme Penetrator line. Great work Sir, keep it up.
Tungsten is a very hard metal and if it has a sharp tip it will shatter. Depleted uranium self sharpens on impact but that’s much harder to get a hold of l. I would recommend using a blunt tip tungsten rod with a diameter small enough to work as a sort of hole punch. This will help with penetration and prevent the project from shattering. Also speed beats armor so the faster the better.
Im not completely sure but the tungsten from those fishing weights are probably too soft, especially since you easily carved grooves in the side of them. Tungsten CARBIDE is the kind you need for armor penetration. You can buy tungsten carbide rods online and sharpen/cut them with small dimond saws and dimond files. Also, tungsten carbide will probably destroy your rifling so it'll need a soft "jacket" to touch the rifling/barrel. Lastly, my idea for the future is 3d printed bullet jackets (not sabots) for sharpened tungsten carbide rods, think of the 3d jackets as easter egg shells snapping together around the rods (although its more complicated then that). With the "easter egg shell" method i think you could make a home made 556 and 308 bullet equivalent to m995 and m993. Also no way you get through lvl4 with shotgun velocities
@@nickedds2907 the HRC of the fishing weights are definitely less that tungsten carbide but when you take into account most AP rounds only use hardened steel in roughly the same HRC as the fishing weights I thought I’d give them a try. Your idea about the jacket is exactly what I’m working on for the next round of testing. Lighten the round and more stability with speed.
@@3RBallisticshopefully eventually you can try some of this stuff with rifles ha, thanks for the vid, info, and effort, really hope your channel grows
@@gamecubekingdevon3 it was annealed. However, I know I had inconsistencies in the cast. I know next time I should press the HDPE much higher. Maybe with the 2 ton press.
I just bought a new pan for the lead plate and am getting the moon craters too. I think the teflon coating needs to be removed or burned off.
@@taofledermaus whatever does it, I kind of like it. However, that lead plate is much heavier than it seems.
I love your channel ❤️
7:04 Something that I have observed on some of my own wacky experiments is that, with a heavy enough projectile, you can extrude a sabot or pusher plate out around it. I shot 50BMG projectiles on top of sabot bases for 50AE/500S&W projectiles out of a 12ga and the polymer components were actually smashed into the annular space around the projectile and separated entirely in some cases. Just something to keep an eye out for signs of.
Edit: oh, you guys figured it out. Just throw a thick washer in there as a pusher plate, that should work.
Seems like the best approach with tungsten would be to jacket it, or cast it in, or press fit it in as a core, into brass. If you're spinning it, and have the ability to have the tungsten machined, I'd take some notes from the Lehigh Extreme Penetrator line. Great work Sir, keep it up.
Today on Taofle... oh wait, hahaha.
Interesting results, goes to show how difficult exotic loading can be.
6:30 Why you wear safety glasses
See the big piece of SOMETHING flying back over the dummy head
Tungsten is a very hard metal and if it has a sharp tip it will shatter. Depleted uranium self sharpens on impact but that’s much harder to get a hold of l. I would recommend using a blunt tip tungsten rod with a diameter small enough to work as a sort of hole punch. This will help with penetration and prevent the project from shattering. Also speed beats armor so the faster the better.
@@finnanderson-ns6ye working on lightening the projectile and upping the speed for the next tests.
I thought this was Tafladermaus for a minute
@@sionsoschwalts2762 Jeff is definitely an inspiration for these videos
new sub.. great content, little better camera control but will be back
Im not completely sure but the tungsten from those fishing weights are probably too soft, especially since you easily carved grooves in the side of them. Tungsten CARBIDE is the kind you need for armor penetration. You can buy tungsten carbide rods online and sharpen/cut them with small dimond saws and dimond files. Also, tungsten carbide will probably destroy your rifling so it'll need a soft "jacket" to touch the rifling/barrel.
Lastly, my idea for the future is 3d printed bullet jackets (not sabots) for sharpened tungsten carbide rods, think of the 3d jackets as easter egg shells snapping together around the rods (although its more complicated then that).
With the "easter egg shell" method i think you could make a home made 556 and 308 bullet equivalent to m995 and m993.
Also no way you get through lvl4 with shotgun velocities
@@nickedds2907 the HRC of the fishing weights are definitely less that tungsten carbide but when you take into account most AP rounds only use hardened steel in roughly the same HRC as the fishing weights I thought I’d give them a try.
Your idea about the jacket is exactly what I’m working on for the next round of testing. Lighten the round and more stability with speed.
@@3RBallisticshopefully eventually you can try some of this stuff with rifles ha, thanks for the vid, info, and effort, really hope your channel grows
fuel for the algorithm
Lighter slugs maybe? From a body armor stand point this was interesting..
@@evansaw293 I’m working on that exact concept right now. Next round of testing will be soon.
Possibly consider lighter and faster for AP slugs. Something in the ballpark of 0.5 to 0.75 oz total payload weight, doing north of 2000 fps.
Was the hdpe annealed after the cast? Because it look like it was quite brittle
@@gamecubekingdevon3 it was annealed. However, I know I had inconsistencies in the cast. I know next time I should press the HDPE much higher. Maybe with the 2 ton press.
@3RBallistics oh ok!