A clip from episode 474 of My Brother, My Brother, and Me. This audio comes from the podcast My Brother, My Brother, and Me and belongs to the McElroy brothers.
The onus is on the person who moved out to call the store and get their coupons sent to their new address. If they didn't do that, it's very possible they moved states or something and they are no longer within range of this store. The question asker is in the right They didn't steal, they were given an accidental free gift
If they want the coupons they’ll come for them. If they don’t, they are yours. It’s their responsibility to change addresses for subscription-based mail services, and I say that as someone who’s moved around a lot
Just use the coupons! It's a local store, even if you tracked down the previous tenant and gave them the coupons, they're not making the drive back just to get groceries. There are two ways this could end, you don't use the coupons and they just go to waste, or you use the coupons and get some outstanding deals.
I get a shit ton of mail for past tenants of my apartment and you BETTER believe I'm eyeballing what they're sent to see if I can use it. Maybe the past 5 people who lived here should've forwarded their mail ✌️
Not really? This is only A model of morality. Harm based models can be more objective, though they are in some cases still based on empathy in cases of emotional harm. Another model, the big bully model is not based on empathy at all for example.
You can tell the three of them have never had to move to a cheaper nearby apartment because they just assume the previous tenant moved for the purpose of going very far away
To use Travis’s $100 analogy, this situation would be one where someone signs up to get a free $100 a month delivered to their home address, moves before it arrives in the mail one month without canceling their weird $100-via-mail subscription plan, and then you move into the same address and get the $100 they knowingly skipped out on that month. Compare Justin’s reasoning here to Justin’s reasoning in the Rory’s Bucket clip - if they knowingly leave it at the house, the ownership transfers to you. No one who signs up to get hella deals at the local supermarket is gonna be so absentminded about it as to forget to correct their address - and if they are, then it’s sorta on them. They knew they get these coupons in the mail monthly, and yet they did not have either the presence of mind or simply did not care enough to cancel their subscription or transfer it to a new address in the weeks leading up to their move. Neither did they bother to set up a mail-forwarding notice. They knowingly abandoned that incoming property - imo, it is yours now. (Ngl, it’s definitely different when it’s a catalog of coupons that a) you’ve almost certainly been receiving regularly for months and b) don’t come sealed in an envelope than if it were, say, an unexpected sealed letter from a family member - then you have a duty to forward it to the new address, I think. But this person knew ahead of the move that they would be receiving a book of coupons for the month at the wrong address, and the fact that they made no effort to prevent that shows that - whether it be due to a habitual disuse of the coupons or a change in proximity to the store - they had no intention to use those coupons when they arrived.)
Compare the response to this with the response to the question about someone who was given good tickets to see a play and then got invited to the ticket-giver’s church. Both are situations in which the object being obtained - the coupon book/the ticket - had a null value immediately prior to being obtained by the question asker, as they would have gone unused. And yet here, the brothers act like using these coupons would be some great crime - whereas in the other question they were very clear that gaining value from the tickets was not only morally fine, but was in some ways a service to the ticket-giver in that it allows the ticket they paid for to regain some of the value they bought it for. Just interesting to me.
i will say in response to what travis said about the previous tenant not getting a notification when their coupons get used.... that is also true of paper money that gets stolen from you lmao. if someone steals 20 dollars from you and then goes and spends it, you wont get a notification that someone used your dollars haha that being said, i would use the coupons, for robin hood reasons. previous tenant seems like theyre probably rich and i am not, sooooooo
'How do you feel about Corona?'
This question, harmless when asked, sounds incredibly bizarre now.
Travis is right
The onus is on the person who moved out to call the store and get their coupons sent to their new address. If they didn't do that, it's very possible they moved states or something and they are no longer within range of this store. The question asker is in the right They didn't steal, they were given an accidental free gift
I can’t believe anyone would actually wonder about this. I would use those coupons so fast people’s heads would fuckin spin
If they want the coupons they’ll come for them. If they don’t, they are yours. It’s their responsibility to change addresses for subscription-based mail services, and I say that as someone who’s moved around a lot
There are times where Travis's Magnus really shows
Magnus AND Taako. haha
I'm going to complicate things a LOT. These coupons were from Leon's Gachapon.
I can't shake the pronunciation of coopun now
Just use the coupons! It's a local store, even if you tracked down the previous tenant and gave them the coupons, they're not making the drive back just to get groceries. There are two ways this could end, you don't use the coupons and they just go to waste, or you use the coupons and get some outstanding deals.
Why are they bullying him!? He's RIGHT!!! (I'm with Travis)
OMG, you must make t shirts with this on them! ("I'm with Travis" in case it isn't clear)
I get a shit ton of mail for past tenants of my apartment and you BETTER believe I'm eyeballing what they're sent to see if I can use it. Maybe the past 5 people who lived here should've forwarded their mail ✌️
Morality is gauged on a scale of empathy, if as humans we couldn't relate our sadness then moral good would be drasticly different.
Dylan Beauchamp this isn’t the comment one would expect to find on a mbmbam video but like yea
Not really? This is only A model of morality. Harm based models can be more objective, though they are in some cases still based on empathy in cases of emotional harm. Another model, the big bully model is not based on empathy at all for example.
You can tell the three of them have never had to move to a cheaper nearby apartment because they just assume the previous tenant moved for the purpose of going very far away
To use Travis’s $100 analogy, this situation would be one where someone signs up to get a free $100 a month delivered to their home address, moves before it arrives in the mail one month without canceling their weird $100-via-mail subscription plan, and then you move into the same address and get the $100 they knowingly skipped out on that month.
Compare Justin’s reasoning here to Justin’s reasoning in the Rory’s Bucket clip - if they knowingly leave it at the house, the ownership transfers to you. No one who signs up to get hella deals at the local supermarket is gonna be so absentminded about it as to forget to correct their address - and if they are, then it’s sorta on them. They knew they get these coupons in the mail monthly, and yet they did not have either the presence of mind or simply did not care enough to cancel their subscription or transfer it to a new address in the weeks leading up to their move. Neither did they bother to set up a mail-forwarding notice. They knowingly abandoned that incoming property - imo, it is yours now.
(Ngl, it’s definitely different when it’s a catalog of coupons that a) you’ve almost certainly been receiving regularly for months and b) don’t come sealed in an envelope than if it were, say, an unexpected sealed letter from a family member - then you have a duty to forward it to the new address, I think. But this person knew ahead of the move that they would be receiving a book of coupons for the month at the wrong address, and the fact that they made no effort to prevent that shows that - whether it be due to a habitual disuse of the coupons or a change in proximity to the store - they had no intention to use those coupons when they arrived.)
...no just wait week, they dont come for the coupons, then boom they're yours >
Compare the response to this with the response to the question about someone who was given good tickets to see a play and then got invited to the ticket-giver’s church. Both are situations in which the object being obtained - the coupon book/the ticket - had a null value immediately prior to being obtained by the question asker, as they would have gone unused. And yet here, the brothers act like using these coupons would be some great crime - whereas in the other question they were very clear that gaining value from the tickets was not only morally fine, but was in some ways a service to the ticket-giver in that it allows the ticket they paid for to regain some of the value they bought it for.
Just interesting to me.
I don't think Justin knows how the law works...
i will say in response to what travis said about the previous tenant not getting a notification when their coupons get used.... that is also true of paper money that gets stolen from you lmao. if someone steals 20 dollars from you and then goes and spends it, you wont get a notification that someone used your dollars haha
that being said, i would use the coupons, for robin hood reasons. previous tenant seems like theyre probably rich and i am not, sooooooo