Which 5-Stars Are ACTUALLY Worth Pulling? (Tier List)
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I love the disclaimer. Every video needs that nowadays. "Warning. May cause anxiety attacks. In case of emergency, consult the nearest patch of grass".
Yeah, disclaimer, I'm gonna tell everyone what's good and what's not but if my take is cooked, you can't argue back
@@MuhaamadAreebget a life maybe?
@@deactiv4827 replying to his comment shows you have the same amount of "no life" that he has
@@MuhaamadAreeb hey bro i think you missed 0:00
@@MuhaamadAreebyour yapping will make his opinion go even more famous
Love the little racoon acting as a pseudo timestamp. It's very cute and functional.
One of the best features added to his content.
If you feel bad that your favorite 5* character its on the E tier, remind yourself that there is the Alloy tier.
Aloy and Hydro traveler being the only 5 stars to have the F teir.
Good thing their free and not limited. (Aloy not really unlimited.)
@@jajathenewking6131 Hydro traveler is currently the best character wym? (Until the bug gets fixed XD)
Apparently it's also the Yoimiya Tier. :(
@@denki2558 I mean its very costly but fair enough
@@John_II Nah she's more of a D teir because she's stronger than Diluc and Klee but not as strong as the 4 top dps.
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Not entirely true when you can't win against abyss
As Eula main the fact that you just put her on E instead of putting her on dedicated list already a win in my book (one day phys support copium)
Lemme ride that copium train with ya cause I've been waiting for another phys support too 😭
Maybe the next region can give us one (forgot how to spell the name)
So sorry eula nation but i dont think its happening. Mika is kind of busted at c6 now that Furina exists, but Eula is so bad that people think he's bad by proxy.
Yeah... Eula is still my strongest. She clears my Abyss until now, just need a better electro support that focuses on Physical and batteries her. (cope)
Lyney should be put way higher, considering that his inflexibility was overstated. Although he was intended to be put in mono Pyro, his best team can still be Vaporize with Furina. Also, he can somewhat work in Melt with Citlali, but to lesser results. Furthermore, he will be dealing less personal damage in a Chevreuse team, but the team itself sheets fairly high (comparable to mono Pyro even) when considering how Chevreuse's buff applies to the whole party. That means that Lyney can function in all of the niches that other Pyro DPSes work in, but also work in his main niche with mono Pyro. Arguably, his primary playstyle isn't even the best considering how strong Furina is, but he does not need Furina. This makes him much more flexible, and he can run any variation depending on what the other Abyss party needs. Arleccino and Mavuika powercreep him, but sitting just under them while having more team flexibility than Mavuika still lands him in a pretty spot in terms of meta. And depending on the situation, he might deal more damage than Hu Tao, who is restricted to Vaporize currently.
His main "restriction" is not restrictive due to other phenomenal supports in the Pyro reaction closing the gap between his Ascension talent that allows him to work in mono Pyro. It just adds a playstyle while not locking him out of other teams. Those other teams do require the premium supports to work, which was unintentional game design by HoYo, but many top tier characters need premium supports. So the only real downside that makes him not worth pulling is for his clunky bow playstyle, which some accounts can actually benefit from for exploration reasons.
I honestly believe that the hate campaign against Lyney just has people misconstruing his value. His restriction probably leads to people misinterpreting his flexibility as well. Being the 3rd-4th best Pyro DPS is still very high in meta, and being a charged attack bow DPS grants him exploration value. I feel like character and gameplay popularity unfairly affected his ranking when he is actually worth pulling for under the video's criteria. Everything that affects public perception of him is circumstantial, which is not actually reflective of his pull value.
Edit: By circumstantial, I mean being the first Fontaine character, being strictly (but only very slightly) worse than Arleccino who released soon after, having a contentious playstyle that may be a downside to some, and not having those premium supports exist when he first debuted. All of these circumstances do not really correlate with how strong or valuable he is to someone's account, but they negatively impact how people see him. Also, I wanted to add that Lyney has various interruption resistance options that all honestly gimp his damage, which actually is a valid point against him. But Citlali somewhat alleviates this by being an S tier pick herself, and also closing the gap between opting out of a shielder, even if she does not have perfect synergy with him.
I just want to point out that almost all of the things you pointed out are just as valid for Klee as they are for Lyney. But very few people are out there claiming that Klee is or isn't something she's not. I feel like the response is just a little bit much and perhaps Lyney having discourse around him that's misinformed is because he's a recent pull being compared to Arle but I also think the misinformation about him isnt better or worse than the average carry. Genshin players aren't usually the brightest cookies in the shed.
I think it's best understood that Lyney is like Klee with higher investment potential and people should consider it in those terms if they were considering Lyney (or Klee). Do you think that's fair?
@@pr0ntabthe problem with Klee is that she doesn't have the range or the broken mano pyro bonus passive that Lynne has, Klee's biggest problem is she can only beat Diluc in damage, she can't even compete with Xiangling a 4 star Lynne at the very least doesn't need to have Xiangling to be viable. It makes me sad that Klee couldn't also be a off-field support like Yelan/Xingqiu, at least then she'd be able to compete with Xiangling and might have been better for other teams.
Thank you for giving justice to Lyney. He's continually overlooked in the DPS realm.
@@pr0ntab Yep, Lyney does have better investment potential and high scaling in terms of the ceiling you can reach with him compared to Klee if I am not mistaken! You do bring up a good point, though. I say this in regard to when it comes to considering which one to pick up- Lyney is probably more recommended, but Klee does have a much more available option to reach her ceiling (Widsith) while Lyney needs his sig or another 5* to be comparable to other DPS instead of his nukes tanking in dmg without support investment.
I know picking up Klee over Lyney just because you have Widsith is kind of crazy, but every account is different. If you favor vertical investment, definitely go Lyney. However, if you like horizontal investment or are newer- Klee is still completely fine nowadays with similar teams to Lyney that if you just want to pick her up to have a pyro dps to clear and call it a day you should be fine as long as you can make those teams.
After using Klee to clear abyss for years and my newly obtained Lyney with sig, I definitely think they are placed way too low on this list, but I think the way the main carries are placed are flawed in terms of pull value. Typically, you don't need more than 4-5 main dps for element coverage and it's better to just pull supports and not main dps if you are lacking key things to make their comps work. (Like you wouldn't pull Chasca over Emilie in this tier list if what you needed to complete your Kinich team is Emilie you know? Especially since Emilie's burning niche isn't too bad and her sub-dps role makes her decent to slot into some teams like Rational)
As someone who genuinely dislikes Lyney and never plays him, I think he should be way higher on the list. Probably the same tier as Hu Tao, the "great pyro, but not as good as Arle & Mavu" tier.
Putting him that low just doesn't make sense, even to a hater
I feel like putting Mavuika in S tier is a bit of recency bias, given that Lyney was argued to be worse because he’s restrictive when Mavuika literally requires other natlan characters (at worst, premium 5 stars like xilonen and Citlali) to function properly. Good dps, yes. Good sub dps? Also yes. But more restrictive and inflexible than Lyney? Also yes.
Mavuika literally sucks if you don’t have citlali and xilonen. Plus she is clunky asf to play
You shouldn’t forget about the exploration abilities of our most recent archon as a factor in this list
I dont get the argument that she sucks without her premium team, you can literally slap Kachina with Mavuika which is a free 4 star natlan char you get with the natlan supp artifact set built, a rosaria/diona, then bennet and she'll still perform well. Of course her gameplay isn't for everyone, but she does better pyro application than Xiang that isnt locked behind high er requirement and still deal a good amount of dmg regardless, i could see her in low to mid s-tier but s tier regardless.
@@abombernation3254 No. You only want one of them for her to become one of the best dps in the game. Two of them to be THE best team in the game. Without them, she's still a good dps and sub dps.
his placement of Lyney is questionable. He should've been at least the same tier as Hutao. But to say that Mavuika and Lyney belong in the same tier is simply not true.
You can trust me on this, even with all of her synergies, Itto is still stronger than Noelle and has less of an energy issue. Especially with the new team options.
i have both high invested and ive genuinely never understood the myth that noelle is somehow stronger. ive played them both a lot and my c6 noelle has never outperformed my itto, same artifacts same weapon
@idk-jw6xl i have an extremely good husk set, top 250 in the world actually, and Noelle just can't take advantage of those stats as well cause her energy problem requires more investment IN Er than offensive stata. Not to mention her attacks are slower regardless so even if they delay the same numbers Itt9nwpuld still outperformer, being faster, with an extremely hard hitting skill. Noelle is certainly more versatile than him tho, nothing is gonna take that from her.
@@gabrielecalabrese2906 i get away sacrificing worse ER artifacts for noelle by just quickswapping from xilonen or whoever else immediately back to noelle, but that still lowers my overall dps with her, so in either scenario she still loses damage which sucks. and yeah, itto pretty much has double her scaling and double her attack speed lol. she does work perfectly with furina, but i can still escape using furina with itto. his higher raw damage and better er just makes the competition an easy winner, at least in my opinion. but noelle def is satisfying and fun to play so i like them both.
@idk-jw6xl I g9y Xilonen to C2 and that easily made my Itto the strongest character I have. And while I have none of the new metals, cause I don't like them. He's stronger than my hi tao, stronger than my Yelan teams, stronger than my Xiangling team. I know she's a 4 star but xisngling with furina bennet and xilonen c2 is monstrous, and yet.
So trueee, I love noelle so much but she has never outperformed my itto (she is in my heart the true geo archon tho)
Itto can work with furina and xilonen though, since xilonen provides healing and itto is just one geo.
I personally use Itto, furina, yelan, and xilonen in abyss.
Its copium, Itto has severe energy issues outside of mono geo.
Navia being an 'A' tier character just because she needs characters like furina and xilonen (who are also very valuable) goes against mavuika being an 'S' tier character because without xilonen and citlali in her teams she feels lackluster and very restrictive to play
I used her C 2 withC6 Xiangling, C6 Bennet, C4 Gorou, using Redhorn Thresher, Itto found ded in a ditch, was really good but now Xilonen, etc she's better
The difference is Mavuika can also be a sub dps who can hold cinder city and fit in a lot of teams and buff them.
And Mavuika is so busted and overpowered that even with non optimal supports I'm really really sure she will out damage Navia.
Plus best character for the overworld exploring and enemy group clearing.
Also Mavuikas max potential is so much higher, Navia can't even dream of that performance.
@Kefla361 that higher potential can only be reached if you have both xilonen and citlali
I want you to try her out without both of them and then try navia without furina and xilonen and see which one feels better
Mavuika is an all or nothing character, whereas navia has a middle ground
@@darksoul3889 that doesn't really matter if Xilonen and Fufu are must pull characters anyway.
And everyone who's smart will get Citlali over Zhongli anyway in the future.
Mavuika is a better future investment always.
But again, Mavuika can be a sub dps in a million teams bc a million teams can use off field pyro.
Her sub dps capabilities alone make her way more valuable, it's not even a discussion.
But yea if you play them both with shitty supports they gonna feel bad but that's with every character almost.
And characters are always gonna rerun and you can get these supports you need in the future.
Mavuika will ALWAYS be better to get.
There is no single argument against that.
Mavuika is an amazing sub dps… Even if I want to play Navia, I use Mavuika in the Navia team
Regarding chasca - the fact that you can just throw whatever teammates you want onto her team is one of her biggest strengths, actually. While all of your other characters are fighting over who gets Furina in their team Chasca can just slip by with a Barbara running TToDS and find herself with a massive ATK buff.
Also, she's still really good outside of natlan - she can fly around 90m with her skill. That's enough to fly across Cider Lake from Mondstadt to Springvale.
I can say that kinich isn’t as restrictive as it might seem since he doesn’t only need burning he can also work with Bergeron and he can use all the off field hydro appliers as well as being able to use more under used characters such a as thoma deyah and if you cope hard enough even pyro traveler
He can honestly work with most dendro and pyro options and even some electro
Eh... Burgeon Kinich feels a lot more clunky and it's harder to pull out consistent and smooth 5/6 Canon shot rotations. Personally I don't like it, but there's not much of a choice when you don't have Emilie.
"Ganyu's problem is being incredibly old."
Hey, she's an adeptus. They don't age like humans. Neuvillette's like 500 years old, too, y'know.
i know this is a joke but ganyu is like more than 10 times older than neuvillette, perhaps he was not the best comparison
Itto can use furina and xilonen like nearly every single DPS in the game
He's not their bis but they're his bis, hard carry him
If you already have Itto then sure, it's still a great team for him. But it doesn't impact his value as a character at all when you can slot virtually any dps character into Furina/Xilonen/Flex and they're gonna do great.
And alot of them is going to out perform Itto as well, in the exact same team no less.
Thats not even his BIS team tho.
Severe energy issues for Itto, and few Yelan procs cus he barely normal attacks.
Chiori Gorou Zhong is still the goat core for him.
As other comments pointed out. You're really underselling Lyney here. I don't main him but he should've at least the same tier as Hutao, or one tier lower. Other than that, I have no meaningful objections.
Mavuika is DEFINITELY an S tier character. People always say she won’t “work” without Citail or Xiolinoe but she actually works great without them too .
And even without Natlan characters in your party , her ult can still charge up pretty good and her off-field is fantastic.
It's a bit weird to rank Childe without mentioning his best team, the International. He's still the best Xiangling driver even after so many new hydro units got added to the game
hes way better than ayato i think
@@Stannis221Bdifference is Ayato has alot of good teams but Childe has 1 amazing team so the question which do you value more, versatility or one powerhouse team.
Itto's best team is xilonen/furina/bennet
It's a pretty good team
I wouldn't recommend people to pull for him, but he has a good team now.
As your favourite character, you should've researched more.
Yelan is way better than Bennett for fun
idc if he does damage. i just want him.
@@Anika9691 you are right, it also mitigates energy issues.
Warm ketchup is both a tactile abomination and a completely unjustifiable health risk. The only time ketchup belongs in the cupboard is when it's the backup for the ketchup in the fridge.
Lyney in D tier is just insane and tasteless
I will say as a Chasca main.
I don't particularly like comparing her to Wanderer or Xiao. They do their own thing and they do it well.
I like the ranking, but she's not unusable outside of Natlan. Her flying last about as long as Yelan at C0.
Her biggest draw back is that her team building is a bit restrictive especially at C0 and she is extremely Single target focused. C2 fixes her Aoe issue and C1 allows her to run more double element teams without much trouble and her exploration in and outside of Natlan now lasts longer.
Does this mean she's bad at base. No. She's still fantastic. She does an insane amount of damage. Chunking Spiral abyss HP bars very quickly. With proper investment(top tier Artifacts, teammates that buff her damage etc) she is in my opinion genuinely a top 10 dps near enough top 5 but that's just my opinion and my experience.
As someone who has a bunch of Natlan characters, Chasca is easily the best at dealing with those irritating Nightsoul barriers that some enemies put up
She's a great character, even outside of Natlan, but I'd still put her in A tier, not S.
It's funny that he chose the right ranking I would've given her while still being slightly mistaken. And mind you, I give her A only because her at C0 is pretty damn good and flexible and fun, but not at the same broken level as most S-tier. A feels accurate, especially considering all the DPS he put at A are solid too.
But at C2 or higher with a 5* weapon? That woman is S-tier levels of insane. She's been carrying my abyss runs since her release. She clears bosses in 1-2 rotations tops. I forgot that the wolflord and the qucusaur and the papilla were horrible because she deletes them. The weekly dragon is a joke. Nothing resists her and if it does, I just need to change a teammate. She's definitely faster and more brainless than the current big three in my account (and mind you, my Arle is C2 and Neuvi is C1...)
About Chasca and teamcomps, I wouldn't say her teams are as restrictive as Ratheil or you think, especially in overworld where she makes almost any friendship team usable unless everyone is non-PECH or something. I've seen people use pretty imaginative or forgotten stuff to replace common characters, like Mona, Shenhe, Layla, C6 Chevy outside of overload. But it's true that to get high damage at endgame you need to use the (pun intended) Big Gun Supports that other teams need, like Bennett, Furina, Citlali, off-field Mavuika, Xilonen if C1, etc. And in the end, you'll most likely be playing basically Melt-and/or-Vape Team #3 But Aerial which is less creative but it is what it is
This is the most peaceful tier list comment section I’ve seen... even though many disagree, and considering it’s genshin...
(i am fine that we disagree on this btw) but actually its contested alot whether lyney or hutao is the better pyro dps, in some circumstances he out damages the knave and slapping him on any mono pyro or vape team he will do wonders, he isnt very ease of use but neither is hutao at c0, and lyneys cons and sig help his damage a ton making him great for long term investment, tho he isnt a unit most people like or know all that about cuz his father was such a meta bombshell.
This is no hate btw! i def see due to his playstyle why he would be knocked down for some players, not to mention his flex and big dps not being very talked about with the knave rifht there. hes the third best pyro dps in the game in terms of raw dmg, decently flex and while enjoying a shielder- with citilali coming out hes been enjoying melt comps!
14:45 literally (kinnich, mavuika, bennett, emilie/furina) can hit 300k~350k easily at c0 and you still comparing him as mavuika didn't relase he will get with hero set 40 bouns damage + because he will run with natlan character he will gane (nightsoul burst) bouns too. He is easily on top 5 strongest DPS in the game.
Another day, another content creator sleeping on emilie
@@Meese12 I would’ve pulled for her if they didn’t cast an English VA who sounds like they have nasal congestion
To be fair she only works well in Burning/Burgon/Melt teams so it makes sense she'd be in B, she's a very good support just niche.
As a fellow Emilie haver and enjoyer I agree with his placement, she's BIS for burn/burgeon teams. But in every other situation Nahida will just be better.
@@dear_totheheart omg I thought I was the only one who absolutely loathes her voice pretty much as much as I hate Mika's 😅
she just honestly is not that great 😭 shes not the bis in any team besides ones where shes a main dps. kinich performs better than her in that role as well, and he doesnt want emilie as nahida works better
Saying all that stuff about how Cyno teams are restrictive because of his Kit following with Itto and even mentioning other characters such as Ayato, Kinich, Lyney and others THEN adding Mavuika into S tiers, a character who is basically running on a timer when we stop getting Natlan characters will be the moment we stop getting teammates for her, IT IS WILD hypocrisy and the fact she really doesn't function well except with Citlali and Xilonene ( with Xilonen doing an over all better performance in many more teams ) is just the worst take ever.
Also i am team cold Ketchup too.
I think Zhongli should be bumped down a bit. I think supports' shields started coming close to his his shield thickness since kirara and layla. Then he got pushed out of some mavu, arle, gaming, hu tao, etc teams by citlali, and now we have lan yan who with her c2 can come close to rivaling his total damage absorption. What has not been creeped at all is his incredible ease of use and comfort. But shield strength? Not really what he's the sole character for anymore.
This video was probably made before Lan Yan released because she’s more useful in many aspects
Venti in D tier is wild, like even in this current meta, his CC is unmatched, certainly better than Kazuha's. Not to mention his amazing overworld skill for making a wind current. If we are demoting him all the way to D just because enemies are immune to CC and a few other anemo characters can wear it better, Kazuha should be down in C tier - which obviously nobody will agree with. I think Venti belongs in A tier, maybe B if you want to be overly critical. But D is just insane.
Hu tao is so shit without her weapon and c1.
And to put her above lyney.
Are you insane.
Lyney does way more damage with half the investment.
I can't believe anything in this list after this terrible choice.
REAL!! below ayaka and ayato is CRAZY
Oh oh someone skipped the disclaimer …
@TheodorSt-tb1vm i didn't skip the disclaimer, this comment was me being nice.
And this list is so terrible that no disclaimer can protect it from being criticized a 10 year old can make a better list
@@THEPYROUCHIHA You know that the purpose of the list isn’t to support every take you or these stereotypical meta people have but rather him sharing his opinion on the game and its characters. This is the reason people watch the video and putting a disclaimer obviously doesn’t mean that something isn’t able to be criticized, I was just surprised by your expressions of choice. And in the end if you disagree just don’t watch the video and leave, I’m pretty sure no one cares if you think a ten year old could make a better list.
@TheodorSt-tb1vm why are you so defensive i am starting to feel like i offended you.
And for the record, i am not a meta player, i am just saying commen sense, and i am not aginst anyone giving an opinion i am against someone giving false facts, i know my pfp might make it look like i am just defending lyney but he said that hu tao does a lot more damage which everyone who plays the game knows is wrong.
He can give his opinion but he can't say something completely wrong.
And cool down a little you don't have to be so serious about a comment you saw on the internet.
Go touch some grass.
If it makes you feel better i am sorry i made this comment.
Happy now?
putting ayato in the C tier on a "worth-pulling" tier list because he's a master of none, even tho he's so easy to build, while also putting a difficult to use, difficult to build mualani in the A tier because she can.... traverse on the surface of the water faster for like... a milisecond?? i think your idea of what's worth-pulling is inconsistent.
i do think ayato is lacking in the damage department, and his on field time can hinder some team combination, but if you, for whatever reason, dislike most hydro character or just cant get them, he's genuinely a solid pick if you just need one hydro at all. he can do basically everything while being just one single unit. granted, his numbers aren't huge, but his number one value is how easy he is to build, to slot, and to use. no crazy gimmick or even a specific support needed. not even a brain needed to play him, especially in the overworld.
meanwhile, mualani is basically locked into a vaporize team. granted, she makes dehya works, but other than that, what else is special about her? her number is big, sure, but so are neuvilette's numbers, played with barely any strategy at all. so are furina's number. mualani can traverse fast on water with her skill, but outside of natlan, it's not a really huge ability. her base "stamina" isnt that amazing if you cover long distance above the water, while someone like, say, furina for example, can literally walk on water for however long she wants. on land, too, she isn't That fast outside of natlan. her exploration ability isn't something specific to her, but she does look better when you compare her in natlan with other characters that arent from natlan.
well, i mean, they're both hydro characters, they're both easily replaceable. if you really think that ayato's value is so low in the C tier because you judge his value by the number he dishes rather than his usability to cover a lot of role, why did you put mualani so high in the A tier, when her exploration ability is basically region-locked to be anything worth mentioning and that she's basically locked into one role in a specific team? there's a B tier you can use.
edit: oh, i also just noticed that there are so many recent DPS at the top of the ranking that benefits from the newer content being catered to them, so it seems this is basically.... a glorified meta tier list?
Agreed, Mualani is so restrictive (the team has to be built around her and she has no value outside of a team specifically catering to her) that I'd rank Ayato above her despite his non existent damage lol
Mualani has a lot of damage sure, but she.... Only has damage, and that damage doesn't even work against half the enemies in the game (like enemies that move out of melee reach often, her damage goes way down bc she wastes time surfing towards them instead of attacking)
Mualani is great for speedruns for specific enemies, but outside of that, she's utter trash.
Neuvillette has 90% of her BiS damage while being braindead to play, and Furina is straight up the best character in the game lmao. It's very hard to justify getting Mualani over them, or even Yelan. (And I'm saying this even as someone who skipped Neuvillette but got Mualani bc I like her more, I'm not putting her down bc I don't like her or something lol, she's my favorite hydro dps)
Ayato on the other hand is very mid but he's consistently mid for all the content in the game instead of being BiS for some and straight up unusable for the rest.
Like what's the point of being the best for 10% of the game's content if you have to bench them for the rest of the content?
Mualani is a strong character, I'm absolutely not denying that, but she has very low pull value bc you kinda have to bench her when they put out an enemy that counters her playstyle.
She may as well not exist on your account for half the game's content, so she definitely goes way lower on the tierlist for just that.
She can't even clear half the content that Ayato can lol.
16:51 hu tao is not better than him, they were already similar and now with citlali, its arguably that hes just better
And with Really REALLY skilled players, he competes with arlachino
I still realistically put him with hu tao. But calling him straight up eorse than hu tao that confidently is just wrong
Also gaming is in the same tier as hu tao and lynney
Lyney also benefits alot from the FREE Lanyan, I think putting him in D but Hu Tao in A is pure bias
That's a good point. Citlali makes characters like Arle and Mavuika much better, and I'm not sure how she works with Lyney, but she definitely doesn't help Hu Tao. I would have put Hu Tao in B though, mainly because she feels like ass to play. I rather play charged shots with Lyney...
I have Citlali and she… is not super useful with Hu Tao unfortunately. You won’t get many good melts. You could use Lan Yan instead if you want a shield and some RES shred.
your tier list was entertaining, however it assumed player skill and knowledge. I'm a casual, uncoordinated, unperceptive, mobile (touchscreen only) player. The most valuable characters address/reduce problems: Zhongli (dodging); Ganyu (aiming); Wanderer (traversal); Kazuha (positioning); Kokomi (survival). Problems are created by Furina (self-harm) & Yelan (disorientation).
Its surprising for me that how many people underrate Lyney.
There are other characters that require specific setup or teammates but still they don't lose there value.
Lyney have one of the highest ceiling.
warning: most genshin players don’t understand what “opinion” means. just saying.
Yea but if you want to have an opinion atleast search stuff before it, cus this tierlist lacks some knowledge of the game and bias. And if you have a bias then say so nothings wrong with that just don't justify it by logical reasons that don't make sense.
Funny thing is that Emilie and Chiori are surprisingly viable teammates for Arlecchino. I’m not sure if it’s just because Father is just that strong on her own, but I find that those 3 do so much damage working together that I don’t even feel the lack of reactions. For the flex slot, I usually slot in a shielder to help deal with the fact that everything is going to be on fire in the overworld. Even with her built in resistance, Arly can only take that for so long.
Aint gonna feed the ragebait but, Itto def aint E, hes a C, even by your definition. The Aim of the tier list if great. But the way its structured is just not compatible with reality. this needed much more nuancing in the tier levels
Maybe, but i still think Itto is a D at best.
As a generic Geo dps he is just worst than Navia.
Itto have very few teams in which you really want C6 Gorou for him to perform even similarly to the others A-B tier dps.
Even in those teams Noelle a 4-star perform only slightly worst then Itto.
His peak maximum dps performance is mediocre, his team flexibility is bad. He has zero off-field/support capabilities.
For these reasons compare to other characters I just think Itto being C is kinda hard.
he's C at best, D for general players. Definitely not E
@@bachy4975his best team is allegedly Furina, Xilonen, Yelan/Bennett. But that's also Noelle's best team and she's more comfy with similar damage.
Albedo is uncontested for worst limited 5 star right now.
Edit: I don't really care if Albedo can technically kind of match Chiori if you pick good circumstances for him and bad ones for Chiori. Chiori is in most speedruns and Albedo is not, so clearly she works better.
He has a direct power creep in Chiori AND he fits no other niches that Chiori can't already fill. Well, there's Double Geo Vape, but that's strictly worse than Double Hydro. Yeah, I have to say I agree.
@@ChefMonke07 if you are going to do double geo, do Chiori Xilonen. It is the most broken duo in the game.
@@Jdogrey1 With C1 Chiori, yes. But I mentioned Albedo in Vape because of the EM buff and Geo resonance. Not the damage.
@@ChefMonke07 nah, C0 Chiori is already broken, even in freeze or vape. C1 just makes her even more broken.
@@Jdogrey1 I mean, she does damage and nothing else. Not that it's a bad thing, but I wouldn't call her broken. Strong, yes. But not broken. Well, she'd be broken at C0 if you have a Geo construct, but you get my point. Do note that I hold this opinion because I have a Top 1% Chiori with R5 Harbinger of Dawn.
Since Chiori is 1/2 of Wheelchair, that every one and their mother is sleeping on, then she deserves at least B tier.
I feel like you're really underestimating Lyney/
For one, he can be surprisingly flexible. He can wire mono pyro, Cheveryse overload, Emilie burn, and Vape. While most of his teams are Hu Tao level in terms of damage, his vape teams, although more high-skill, are comparable to Arlechinno in terms of damage.
I do acknowledge Lyney has some gameplay issues that can be a turn off, but I feel like putting him in the second lowest tier is just low balling him.
For sure, especially since Ayato and even Ayaka were placed above him, which is crazy because her freeze teams tank without investment and often result in having to charge another burst causing her to be gimped at low investment. While yes, you can argue the same for Lyney as he does need his sig or a good bow to function- his nukes and more flexibility in the teams you mention make him deserving of at least B or A in relation to the other placings on this list. Also, his nukes make him better than Hu Tao when it comes to fast clears, something that is just so valuable to some people (nerds like me) and I wish more people mentioned his speedrunning value, even if most people don't care. He definitely got gimped in this tier list, hoping some more people factor this into their opinions
I love lynney, and he is really powerful. He even gotten a new buff recently. I can’t really play him without a shielder most of the time so i up with Zhongli instead of kaz. But now with lan yan i have both vv, shield AND ttds.
I feel like the fact that lynney has that mono pyro passive, people think you can only play him that way
I really don't like Lyney, but I'd still put him in the same tier as Hu Tao. Giving her that much more credit than him is just a bit crazy
@@alexprus7953 people write him off cuz previously his best teams were very hard to play. But if you played a shielder team competently he’d still do tons of damage. And now with his Citlali and Lan Yan team he has become much better to play while doing tons of damage. However, most of the focus with Citlali is on Mavuika and Arrle. As for Lan Yan as a driver or arrle sup. Lynney is often forgotten or pushed aside when such buffs come. Same happened with Emilie, he was not really on the list while Emilie does waaay more damage than xiangling in a non reaction team.
Is neat to hear others opinion on the many 5 stars we have now. My favs were high or low for understandable reasons. But I will give you some more info on Chasca, even outside or Natland, her skill is so useful. I been using her as I finally finish all of sumeru. And her skill is just so fast moving with double Anemo. She does power creep wanderer in exploring in how fast and responsive her skill is. And damage wise. I don’t have any issues yet.
I'm going to have a stroke if I continue watching. I don't even WANT to know where Venti will end up... Lets go touch some snow!
Emilie can be put in almost any team with a pyro unit and just about any team with a pyro carry considering the best reaction is melt second vape her place isnt niche shes currently in a better spot than nahida
Heck, she can even work in a Neuvilette hyperbloom team
I pulled for Sigewinne and got her and her weapon… she is a great healer and is a perfect pair with Furina… I love having a good healer and I dislike it if my healers don’t heal the entire party… so she is a great unit that I use far more often than Kazuha, Furina, Bennett, Xilonen and all those other great characters… I know the role of a healer doesn’t seem to fancy, but for me it really helps a ton…
And I like to compare her to Kokomi… two hydro healers… Kokomi will do more hydro application while Sigewinne will be a much better healer… I play Sigewinne on my main account and Kokomi on my second account and I think they are pretty tied… I would put them in the same tier in terms of value… maybe Sigewinne a little higher
@@YumiONS Omg thank you, hearing him put sigewinne INSTANTLY in E, while praising for example BAIZHU for the exact stuff you would praise sigewinne for and her being a more versatile element, it gagged me. Sigewinne does heal more than Kokomi, and everyone keeps telling everyone that kokomi is the best healer in game, and I couldnt disagree more with them. I dont even have sigewinnes weapon and she still outheals my boyfriends kokomi which he mains and overinfested in.
@@th3officialr3d exactly… they both heal the entire party with their Elemental Skill… that alone is enough to make them awesome for healing and valuable to many teams… I am very glad to have Sigewinne and will recommend her over characters like Kokomi and Baizhu most of the time…
@@th3officialr3dBaizhu has a bit more value because both of them work the best in Furina teams, both do great healing, but he also enables dendro reactions, buffs them and provides a shield. There aren't many scenarios where Sigewinne is the best character you can pick for the team.
Honestly I think both of them should be higher, but it makes sense that she's lower than Baizhu
@@alexprus7953 I do agree, but on the other side, I feel like a second hydro character is less often in the way for reactions… let’s say you want to do a reverse Vape team with Klee or something like that… having Dendro in there can also be annoying… it really depends on the team you want to go with… (I don’t own Baizhu so this is not based on experience but just me guessing)
kinich is A tier fr no cap no doubt......... basically spiderman and needs one pyro support that's it
For the Chasca part-I opened all of my waypoints outside of Natlan easily because of her. She is SUPER useful
I value QoL more than meta viability. Exploration and mobility passives make the world so much easier to navigate and enjoy and allow me to appreciate the game world more.
TBH zhongli don't deserve s-tier. He is just waste of slot in every top tier team, you can always replace him with a better buffer than him. You could argue that his interruption resistance is valuable but he's just waste for top 3 dps cuz c1 of neuvi and arle has better value than him and mavuika don't even need him. Also you could say that his shield is great but again top 3 dps don't want that like neuvi wants a healer more than a shileder and he can pretty much sustain himself, arlecchino now has lan-yan who is better shielder than zhongli for arle at c2 plus lanyan has better buffing capabilities than zhongli by using TTDS and VV set.
He did stated especially when u play on mobile Zhongli is for comfortability but if you're pc player then for u it doesn't feel value for him. Zhongli has value till now also for geo team and any other team where shield is needed but I do agreed not to get top S tier value but he will be low S tier char for sure. Bcz of 20% res shred all element and interrupt res and where about lanyan shielding only get tougher when in infused elemental shield state otherwise anemo shield doesn't stand lot so when opposing geo or dendro opponent then u can't do much about it bcz lanyan need to get hit of enemy's element to gain infused state.
As an Itto main we all agree that itto is bad and definitely worst when dealing with shields but he is fun to play imo
i agree (almost) wholeheartedly with this list!! Really good! Only one small nitpick:
My only issue with this list is Xianyun. For me, she is A Tier because she+Furina can make anyone, even 4stars, to solid DPS´. And the fun factor can also be considered to a worthy investment, because now you can take your Xinyan or any other previously mediocre characters and make them a plunge DPS. And, as you said, any account should have a Furina because of how valuable she is anways. Heck, i still play plunge-Navia, because of how insanely fun it is and because i am so used to it. Also, Xianyun has the same overworld traversal value as Yelan, sometimes even better because of her verticality. So adding that up, she is at least A Tier, definately not the same Tier as Wriothesley IMO.
Other than that, great list!
Minor disagreements
Kinich is not worse than hu Tao or wriothesely lol
Actively look at the list
Kinich is so clear of the units in B and Hu Tao is def below the units in A
You should legit swap those 2
Also Zhongli should be like B tier now, Citlali is a better unit, but you want Zhongli’s shield strength. Then fine Lanyan a 4 star at c2 has a stronger shield with vv +ttds. Lan yan actually powercrept him. So now I’d just advise someone to get a lan yan instead of Zhongli
Then Ayaka and wriothesely in B is fair
What’s nuts is then putting ganyu D, they are not 2 tiers better than Ganyu lol 🤣. Like Ganyu and Lyney are not worse than Ayato
Ganyu and Lyney are also not the same tier as Albedo and Venti 🤣
Ayato is not better than Tartaglia I mean cmon, hasn’t it been proven already
Also the hot take
Arlecchino is not the same tier as Mavuika
Arle might be A/A+ but there’s no pull situation where Arle has the same pull value as Mavuika. There just isn’t
TLDR: Kinich - A, Hu Tao - B, Ganyu- B, lyney - B, Arle - A+, Ayato - D, Childe - C, Zhongli - B
Agree. Zhongli isn't as valuable as he used to be, so is Alhaitham so B tier. Kinich and Emilie should be A tier. Ganyu and Lyney should be higher D tier value is nuts, those 2 should be more valuable than Ayaka now. Lyney with Citlali makes him more comfortable to play, and Ganyu can be used as burst support (Noblesse) for Mavuika if you don't have Citlali
@ yeah, I do believe in the current game Ganyu is a better unit than Ayaka. Given now she can replace Xiangling with Mavuika. That basically negates the biggest issues with her melt teams.
Now this easily interruptible unit doesn’t have to be up close cause of Xiangling anymore
I do believe Ganyu > Ayaka today
Lyney with Citlali being D tier is crazy
Both of them below Ayato is even more mad 🤣
Ganyu is just better than Ayaka now
Surely Kokomi is a bit worse than some of the recent hydro units but aside from being absolutely gorgeous she’s also the best in weekly boss co-op , the team's guaranteed to not die with her
Same with Baizhu, any healer like them is bound to have value just because of how good their healing is especially in co-op
I had a literally heart attack when I heard Emilie was going 'lower' than Clorinde, but B is a pretty reasonable spot. She's literally the best at her niche, and said niche does benefit other teams like Melt and otherwise Mono-Pyro, but she's not exactly as versatile as someone like Nahida
She has no competition in her niche... that's like saying Nilou is the best at Bloom.
I have Emilie btw, but I rarely use her because I don't have anyone who wants the burning =(
I'm sorry, but Cyno in E? Absolutely not. I don't even like Cyno but what the hell
The cyno hate needs to stop bro has been getting so many units that works well with him ive tried em out too
Delulu guy
Well you can just get keqing for free
@Anika9691 Who's delulu? I don't like Cyno and I never plan to get him, but he's definitely well above E
You guys are just mentally stuck in the era where he had no supports
Emilie and Baizhu as well as the release of Furina and Xilonen buffed him well beyond what he used to be
You no longer need to swap off every wave to reapply Nahida's E, and Furina and Xilonen's damage bonus adds on top the massive aggravate damage bonus he already gets
He's stronger than Clorinde in aggravate, so unless you want to say Clorinde belongs in E tier too, he's well above E
As a Lyney user, Im speechless
Can you continue the Character Trailer Tier List? These videos were really good
As a Chasca owner she absolutely deserves S tier. Her damage might not be as good as Neuv or Arle (though she’s really close in single-target situations), but she’s amazing at everything else. Her exploration especially is insane - she’s a little better than Wanderer outside of Natlan, and probably the best exploration character in the game inside Natlan. If you also have Mavuika you can fly near indefinitely with nightsoul transmission. Her team options are also extremely flexible. You do need 3 PECH characters, but they can be literally ANY 3 PECH characters. You could genuinely just use Lisa, Kaeya, and Amber and she’d still work decently well. Her constellations are also ridiculously good, with her C1,and C2 putting her on par with C2 Neuv and Arle while also being better at exploration, and her C6 is one of the highest damage constellations in the game. At c2 she’s also really flexible content-wise, as you can make her do any elemental reaction you want on command so she can take advantage of almost any event or abyss buff as well.
Kinich compared to Alhaitham also has the problem is that he feels absolutely awful to play in the overworld (in regards to combat) the way he circles around enemies has gotten me caught on so many random rocks and whatever in the open world, and it's hopeless in small spaces
after having lanyan (especially for free), I really dont see how you can put zhongli in S tier.
whether its overworld, abyss, or domain, with c2, she is better in most of the teams. she is just so versatile with even offensive use
very strong shield - that can recharge
VV 40% RES shred
with C4: 60EM
all this weapon below you can use at lv 1.
if team has ATK scaler: TTDS 48% ATK boost
if team has furina: R5 proto ember
if team want energy: Fav Codex
if electro char: hakusun ring 20% DMG bonus
and if you want to use her as quick swap sub dps: sac frag.
Overworld use, Zhongli is still the best pickaxe in the game
You need to double swirl to res shred for more than 2 elements - which isn't really possible everywhere and every team.Zhonglis res shred is unconditional.Also, spread teams.
@@sauravthegreat In Spread you can use Baizhu wich is probably better and even then Zhongli it's not worth it
Not Albedo being so universally mid he managed to escape the E tier 😭
13:37 it is kinda depressing...i have c6r2 itto comparing him to modern units at c2....sometimes they out dps him :l
on xilonen banner i got her c4r1 to make him feel like a c6 character again :l
because i still refuse to use furina in the team because i prefer mono geo then rainbow teams and my zhongli c2 gives me shield when he does his burst.
i really hope the next geo support 5 star actually heals and buffs damage because as of now xilonen healing capabilities are disabled in mono geo because of PHEC bruh unless i c6 her which i do plan for exploration as well if BIG IF...she isn't on the same banner on itto's banner.
because i would go straight for r5 both xilonen and itto weapon and get xilonen c6 later.
my itto right now does 144k for 6 hits. then he does 118k after xilonen stacks ran out...but if i r5 with furina...he is doing 200k without food and 250k - 270k ish per charge attack.
the c4 xilonen short dopamine rush(if it didn't have that restriction) she would actually buff more than furina's c3.
i just need another geo buffer and im good.
also food buff is as fake as nvidia's Ai generated frames :P
c6 shenhe enables infinite wriothesley and i do not regret it
Not everyone has c6 shenhe
C6 Shenhe was the biggest bait until Wrio released. People would think she was great with Ayaka without thinking that Ayaka's burst still ate up the quills.
8:40 what are u talking about she has decent shielding not the one of the strongest shielding duh only strongest shielder are Zhongli layla lanyan and fyi citlali is like just above diona shield strength duh.
9:29 nah S tier bruh there many factors to look first off without scroll set she is just slightly above Zhongli in terms of shred and value of buff provision but as shield strength wise Zhongli goated and due to that her value solely depend on scroll set that why she is very above Zhongli to get lot buff capabilities otherwise they are very quite similar. And as why i stated she is slightly above Zhongli due to 2 reason she is cryo applier and could use with lot reaction such as melt and any reaction corresponds with cryo whereas Zhongli doesnt provide reaction except crystallize if it had compared with scroll set then ofc it carry up further to be best support. And last but not least team factor only melt and freeze which are pyro or hydro dps team in which only pyro dps gain more benefit such as gaming strongest one to benefit due to sync with timing then arlec and mavuika then hutao and diluc thats it end whereas for hydro its neuvi ayato and childe thats it with all these how does it determine she can be highly useful to be in S tier? She is A tier tbh with all these aspects.
Arlechinno and Hu Tao could probably both be bumped down one rank by your criteria on why Neuvilette makes Ayato worse. I wouldn't recommend people get Arle since Mauvika does what she does better with a lot more benefits.
Also brave to put Shenhe in C, I respect that lol.
That isnt really a good comparison, mavuika does that to all dps more or less the same, she is as different from arlecchino as she is from neuvilette, but i do agree on hu tao since arle is generally a better hu tao, but comparing a burst based archon that needs natlan teammates and bennet to be better than other dps to arle which is the xiangling of dps she only needs a shielder for comfort and maybe bennet depending or your team.
mavuika is also tied to natlan shill for a solid 60% of her damage, arlecchino can be built with just about any pyro related team you can think of. Mavuika's damage is also only comparable to arle's in her best most premium team, every other team she's losing out by 20% or so
mavuika needs natlan characters arle doesnt
Not really though. Mavuika needs top tier supports to do what she does best. If you build a Mavuika "B" team, it would definitely perform worse then an Arle "B" team, because Arle has better self sustained damage and doesn't rely that much on her supports to do big damage. Mavuika is still my favorite though, but that's because I have Citlali and Xilonen. For someone that doesn't have them and doesn't plan on having them, I would 100% recommend Arlecchino instead.
@@JanickGers0 like how when IWTL showed the mavuikas f2p team outperformed arles f2p team????
i loveeee the editing in this video, good job!
Not sure why Noel would be better than Itto in general but, Itto can still work with the xilonen, Bennet and Furina team quite well. Its arguably better than mono Geo these days, so bit of an oopsy there.
A- Kinich, Emilie
B- Alhaitham, Zhongli, Yae, Kokomi
C-Childe, Ganyu, Wanderer, Lyney, Hu Tao
D- Cyno, Itto, Shenhe
E- Albedo
The rest I agree
Fun fact: Chasca is still incredible outside of Natlan, and her teambuilding is absolutely NOT restrictive.
Xianyun should be A tier. Even if not many characters truly benefit from her plunges, you can just ignore that and she's still the best anemo healer for Furina
Chasca is definitely someone i would always recommend pulling because flying around on her gun is SOOOO useful for exploration. it can even climb mountains if they're just slightly slanted away from you!
she doesnt have very good 4star weapon choices, but making her a Rainbow team is almost impossible to mess up. as long as you have three different CHEP teammates and they're doing SOMETHING to buff ANY damage on the field, she's gonna do just fine. and almost everyone will naturally get something like Fischl/Benny/Diona just through playing the game.
absolutely a solid pick even if you only build her to get somewhere fast in overworld.
also the only disagreement i really have is that Zhongli might be incredibly comfy and have that insane shield, but Lan Yan also has a solid shield, and she's Anemo, and she's a catalyst LMAO
its like choosing between the guy who can let you walk through everything or the new girl who lets you walk through ALMOST everything while also giving you VV shred and TTDS buff to your main DPS.
she also only needs like 3 seconds on field to do ALL of that, plus a couple NAs if you have C4 and want to refresh her shield a little. it's still in discussion a lot, but i think Lan Yan absolutely will prove to be more valuable. especially since everyone gets her for free right now vs spending the big bucks for Geo grandpa. i love Zhongli but i believe he has finally FINALLY fallen the tiniest bit to powercreep. HES STILL INSANE, HE WILL STILL HELP YOU, but if you are someone who likes killing things BEFORE they can hit you, Lan Yan will help you more
oh and im a big enjoyer of that kinda warm restaurant ketchup specifically in the lil paper cups, for dipping your fries in.
Tbh i play mualani with xiangling or pyro mc, i dont think shes restrictive tbh, yes she does big pp dmg with pyro, but she can still be played with other reactions and still hit above 100k dmg without buffs, i think mavuika has more restrictive teams, she definitely need citlali or xilonen and mainly both
I happen to own Chasca by accident, so I can tell that she flies further than the Wanderer even outside Natlan.
I have her in my exploration team for a reason.
As for her damage, it's quite solid and she is easy to build.
"Thickness of his shield" I see what you did right there mate🤣🤣
Cold ketchup!!!! Nah GET OUUUUT
You should use Itto in Doublegeo with Xilonen; 3 or 4 geo isn't his best team anymore. Xilonen's E cooldown is so short that she can generate as much energy as a whole triple geo team. When you do that, he becomes so so much better, honestly B or C tier in your list, definitely superior or on par with Ayaka
You'll be able to read on it more once my itto quick guide update goes online on KQM :p
Thankfully, Cyno is getting a boost in Overload teams now that Chevreuse is out. He doesn't have to be stuck in Catalyze teams anymore
The disrespect to Lyney is criminal. It’s already debated who does more between him and Hu Tao but a lot more recent units like Citlali and Lan Yan have boosted Lyney a lot in terms of his team comps. Him being 3 whole tiers below Hu Tao is baffling
this comment section is dumb af 😭
You should try Itto without Gorou if u like him, using him with Furina Xilonen and another generic PECH buffer feels really good (although it is really sad to see him without Gorou.) probably wouldn’t change much fro this tier list though all things considered
Furina, Xilonen, Bennett (which is Navia's best team) sounds pretty good tbh.
Nah I think Cyno is AT LEAST D tier
ehh i would say hes mid B hes getting more units that works decently well with him that fixes his issues
i've c6'd Baizhu & Itto. That's all i have to offer to this. Loved the list tbh. Yeah some of my favorite units are kinda low but hey, i'm not gonna complain.
If you’re a whale and have C2 Chasca, Mavuika, Citlali, and Xilonen. That is probably the most fun I’ve had in a team since Raiden, Sara, Bennet, and Kazuha.
Extremely strong as well.
Most restaurants give you warm ketchup and they don’t change it precisely because most people have no issue with it and like it that way
Sorry my guy but it’s not even a contest, maybe people prefer it cold if given the opportunity but the majority clearly have no issue
what is blud talking about
Just got C1 Clorinde and C2 Chevreuse with only 100ish pulls today I’m so hyped about it they are so fun in a overload team together
"If you have no other claymore characters you can use her for mining"
the game gives you noelle and kachina for free
Also Kinich isn't exactly tied to burning, he works off burgeon too
So my next target is probably just Xilonen, Citlali, Chlorinde, Mualani and Wriostley if I just take S and A tier. I hope you can do this tier list again, either each update via posts or before ".0" update or annually.
I'm a Chasca main and while some of your impressions are misconceptions, I think the ranking is correct. At C0-C1 at least she should go there. Amazing exploration and QOL, comfy, a boss deleter, strong in the current meta and against the Natlan enemies/bosses, very hard to powercreep in her niche and will only get better with new PECH supports/sub-DPS unlike the other Natlan DPS. I'd say she becomes S-tier broken at C2R1 and higher, but a normal Chasca would be A, or A+ if you care less about meta and more about overworld.
I think Xiao is so good rn he could be bumped to B but ONLY if you already have 2 or 3 of his premium team. But for a new-ish player who barely might have a Bennett and maybe a Faruzan with low cons if they were lucky? I would never fucking recommend him unless you just want to own him before he's gone until the next Liyue chronicled banner. I've seen people in despair in his subreddit because they have no good teammates for him, it's so sad.
And here's the hot take and the tank of copium. I don't think Cyno deserves the E. I've played him plenty (I know) and I'd put him D at worst, if only because unlike the other E-tiers here, he has quickbloom as a reaction to carry him and he got buffed by the Furina-Baizhu synergy. Like sure, you need to to balance way too many substats and even his best team isn't perfect for him, but he can be usable on most abyss as long as you can get him to burst in every rotation (I know, but with 4p TF and one fav in team it's fine). And he can be played in more teams like aggravate or overload or hyperburgeon soup even if they're not the greatest by any means. I'm just saying he's not in Eula or Itto (he doesn't even use mono geo anymore as BiS btw) or Klee's levels of skeleton in the swimming pool. Hell, C2 Xilonen makes him usable in multiwave now (but you need to have C2 Xilonen... and few would use her with Cyno if they do ngl)
Team 5-10 °C ketchup
Omg im devastated itto was put in E tier ... Im still waiting for his rerun banner so i can pull him, one of my all time fav chara on genshin 😢😢😢
I thought, the tier list was ok, but that Ketchup comment pushed me over the edge!
Glad Itto got E!!! For Emazing!!! He is!!! (Have c6 Itto)
As a C6 EULA haver (got "lucky" on rolls and got C6R1 in around 200-250 pulls, so didn't have to spend any money 'cause I had the freemogems saved up) ... yeah I might love her design and all, but I only really bust her out when I just want to look at her animations, though with that said, there's been several challenges in the game where her 1.2 million burst damage has been what allowed me to get through it.
Edit: And then you talk about my main right after, I've had C6 Ganyu since her debut and she's been my main since then (Funnily enough, I had really good pulls on her as well, getting C4 without having to spend any money), and to this day, her team can always clear Abyss unless it's an Abyss that's immune to ice (this is also true in theater)
To be entirely fair, like I said, she is my main, I have a lot of artifact investment into her.
For anyone curious about my team comps on her, until I got Mavuika her comp was her, Bennet (C5/R5 of the craftable weapon from Sumeru), Kazuha (C0R1) Nahida (C0R1), this is also the team I'll fall back on if I need Mavuika on the other Abyss team, but my new team is Ganyu (C6 using R1 greatest magic or whatever it's called, Mavuika (C6R1), Bennet (same build), Citlali (C0R1)
My stats are (roughly as I am going off memory as I am not at the PC while typing) crit rate of 70% crit damage of 260% and I believe her attack is around 2300 with an elemental mastery of just shy of 700, with Mavuika's E applying pyro Ganyu's arrows do just shy of 180k damage with Bennet's ult up, this team comp also works decently with C0 Mavuika, though you have to switch to her a bit more often to re-apply E, at C6 her E generally lasts long enough to fully charge her ult in my rotation.
I am obviously biased, but I would put Ganyu at C0 at a C tier and C6 at A tier.
But you know, like I said, I am a heavily biased Ganyu main :P
Siegwinne is SSS tier. Since she is only one that can buble the hydro mage as revenge.
Childe is still leagues better than ayato.
I do think Ketchup tastes better cold, but not enough to care whether the ketchup is cold or not. But it has been awhile since I've had it cold, mostly just store it in a cupboard. So stay tuned for my THRILLING conclusion, as i put it back in the fridge... 😏
Ketchup is generally better at room temperature, but chilled ketchup is fine, too, with the understanding that (a) I usually only have it on fries and (b) it gets used in my house so infrequently that I do keep it in the fridge just to preserve it.
Doesn't matter what people say I am still pulling for Ayato when his next banner comes. I started playing genshin in 2024 last june or may, hoyo was running Ayato banner. I didn't knew shit about banner or the gacha system or the pity. Ever since I saw his banner been in love with his character design, he's been my favorite. Coming 2025 I've saved enough 900 wishes to be exact. Gonna c6 him straight
Imagine of the Tsaritsa allowed for the Superconduct and Shatter reactions to Crit in proportion to stats of the character.
I don't even like Yae Miko but throwing her in C tier because she is easily replaceable by Fischl and then moving on to putting Yelan in S tier RIGHT AFTER HER knowing that Yelan is also easily replaceable by a 4 star is crazy work.
xq is falling off man. his best team was with hutao but hutao is powercrept by arle and mavuika and they prefer to have yelan as hydro
5 S, 2 A, and 1 each of B, C, and D.
This makes me happy 🤗