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  • Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
  • Is Trump's alleged desire to "Make America Great Again" sincere? Onkar Ghate discusses how Trump's actions and attitudes during his presidency demonstrated a profound disdain for America's founding principles. Watch the full video here: • Understanding the Trum...
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 309

  • @mustang607
    @mustang607 Місяць тому +18

    How many people these days know about the engine that made America great, kept it great and self correcting, as compared to nearly every other country on the planet?

    • @snapman218
      @snapman218 Місяць тому

      It’s called white European people

    • @alexleibovici4834
      @alexleibovici4834 26 днів тому

      > the engine that made America great, [...]
      What engine is that?

  • @SHONNER
    @SHONNER Місяць тому +21

    He sounds just like the Never-Trumper Republicans that Trump had to deal with during his Presidency.

    • @ominousparallel3854
      @ominousparallel3854 24 дні тому

      I think he is a lot more articulated. Anyway your point is?

    • @SHONNER
      @SHONNER 24 дні тому

      @@ominousparallel3854 That you're a democrat.

    • @mrfairway75
      @mrfairway75 16 днів тому

      @@ominousparallel3854 It is sooo obvious that the Ayn Rand Institute is a highjacked organisation. They place idiots like Onkar there speaking negativley about all the good that is happening. You can see the contempt so easily just by looking at how he communicates. It doesnt take that much to understand that.

  • @matthewstroud4294
    @matthewstroud4294 Місяць тому +4

    Whoever picked this clip at ARI made a mistake. I agree with everything said, but you won't convince anyone that doesn't without a more expansive breakdown.

  • @polygrind
    @polygrind Місяць тому +14

    I don't get it. What has he done wrong exactly?

  • @weav8060
    @weav8060 Місяць тому +4

    Compare Victor Davis Hansen's cogent analysis of Trump

  • @robabiera733
    @robabiera733 Місяць тому +5

    Unfortunately, I've had experience with people who had that attitude of "I'm the boss, that means I can do whatever I want" and they clearly saw that as existing in some kind of vacuum - it wasn't connected to anything else, like their performance or customers or employees or presenting the product appropriately or any kind of consequences. It was all about their authority and that was the only thing that mattered to them. You can imagine how effective they were.

  • @sammy_dee
    @sammy_dee Місяць тому +28

    Talking about projecting your own bias. Like always it's all accusation without a clear example.

  • @useyourbrain1539
    @useyourbrain1539 Місяць тому +11

    "Contempt", "knows nothing about American history".... where do such ignorant perspectives come from?

    • @hyperreal
      @hyperreal Місяць тому

      From the facts of reality. You’ve heard of it yes?

    • @useyourbrain1539
      @useyourbrain1539 Місяць тому

      @hyperreal Until CCPflu hit, Trump had a growing economy, low fuel/food costs, secure borders, higher Federal revenues, no wars, mid-east economic agreements, lower crime... demonstrate the fraud of these claims.

  • @Charge11
    @Charge11 Місяць тому +62

    “Trump doesn’t love the US because he’s not a constitutional scholar”
    Peak TDS. You really earned my unfollow with this one. This was the last strain. Rand would be disgusted with this guy

    • @KravMike08
      @KravMike08 Місяць тому +8

      Keep your friends close and your enemies closer
      It best to monitor what to other side is doing than to ignore it
      Long live the Republic

    • @tommas2674
      @tommas2674 Місяць тому

      @@KravMike08 I go right into lefty dens / medias comment section with Facts and I get banned at least once a week. I'm not vulgar just Facts they hate.

    • @SpacePatrollerLaser
      @SpacePatrollerLaser Місяць тому

      Don't go away mad: Just go away. That, 's one less Trumpbot we have to hear from, which raises the sanity level here
      However, you are right about one thing. The causal relationship between being a Constitutional scholar and loving America is the other way around, But Trump is still neither
      Just why the Trumpbots congregate here is beyond me. Especially now that Trump has gone into the business of selling Bibles. They Ultimate City Slicker has snookered all those fine Christian Soldiers. Right out of ATLAS SHRUGGED!

    • @geekonomist
      @geekonomist Місяць тому +8

      Rand would be disgusted with Trump. You are right.

    • @Weirdomanification
      @Weirdomanification Місяць тому

      Man you are full of it. None of what they said requires the knowledge level of a scholar.
      You people act like robots

  • @topcat2527
    @topcat2527 Місяць тому +31

    Ayn Rand did not approve this message.

    • @geekonomist
      @geekonomist Місяць тому +3

      Neither did she approve yours or mine? What is your point?

    • @hyperreal
      @hyperreal Місяць тому

      She would have been disgusted by trump

    • @topcat2527
      @topcat2527 Місяць тому

      @@hyperreal Where do you hold your seances?

    • @hyperreal
      @hyperreal Місяць тому

      @@topcat2527 where do you hold yours?

    • @topcat2527
      @topcat2527 Місяць тому

      @@hyperreal psst… Ayn Rand is dead. Which means there is no way she could have approved this message. Which is exactly what I said, without needing a séance. You on the other hand are making the assumption she would’ve hated Trump. I want to know how you know this without a séance?

  • @Quietus6
    @Quietus6 Місяць тому +6

    Something important is being missed about Trump and it involves his immense popularity. Rand once praised Americans for their sense of life, a pre-cognitive attitude toward life that accounted for America’s success. Trump, if anything, has that. His words resonate with that still flickering flame of individuality, albeit weak. I wish his words were more specific, at least to guide his actions.

    • @willnitschke
      @willnitschke Місяць тому +3

      It little matters what the rhetoric is. It's the policy. By that metric, Trump has been vastly superior to Biden. He hasn't agitated for WW3, at least.

  • @jorbru
    @jorbru Місяць тому +23

    “He couldn’t do away with it [checks and balances] but he would want to do away with it”. Mind-reading BS. When an institution drifts from its purpose, it is right that the institution has its course corrected. That is respect, not contempt for the institution.

    • @SpacePatrollerLaser
      @SpacePatrollerLaser Місяць тому

      True, but that will not be done by a first-class louse who would use eminent domain to try to take a widow's house to use the land as a parking lot. UA-cam up "Trumped; the donald, the widow and emininet domain" or just "trump emininet domain". Also "trump, putin helsinki" The only difference bewtween the Monday Trump said "I can't see why it could be the Rissians" and the next day when he said "I meant to say 'I can't see why it wouldn't be the Russians" was that on Monday, Putin was standing next to him. I note the GOP is fixing to serve Ukraine up to their REAL master. Go ahead, reach for those UA-cam vids: Make my day! Hell Schmucker Carlson has openly gone over. And do you REALLY believe the 2020 election was stolen? Even Giuiani has folded
      One of the thing we bounce on the Left, Social Justice Warriors and the 'crats is the victimhood act. Well BOY HOWDY Trump is right in there with AOC, Ilhan Omar and Rashida Talib(an). Biden was smack on the money when he called Trump a "whiner". I think that what Trump considers the Presidency is his own personal Safe Space: Call the WAAHHHmbulance!

    • @geekonomist
      @geekonomist Місяць тому +2

      It is only a correction if before correcting, you actually know which way to go. OG argument is that Trump could not have cared less. That makes you a mindless trump supporter.

    • @SpacePatrollerLaser
      @SpacePatrollerLaser Місяць тому

      @@geekonomist For which, in 2016, I coined the term "Trumpbot", as in the widely-used term on the Right, "Obamabot" and of which I said "They make Obamabots look like a fortress of personal autonomy". Notice I carefully avoided "who" and whom". They made me understand what Rand meant by the term "anthropoid". It's nice to see some good guys around here

    • @NeoJRPG
      @NeoJRPG Місяць тому

      The institution of Checks and Balances has not drifted from its purpose. Its purpose in 1776 was to prevent authoritarian rule by an individual, and its purpose in 2024 is to prevent authoritarian rule by an individual. Also, we don't need" mind-reading" when 100% of his Supreme Court picks were judges who believed in expanding the Executive power.

  • @jameswiblishauser9745
    @jameswiblishauser9745 Місяць тому +31

    That's not really based on anything, about how he doesn't care about America, etc, he sounds like he's grasping at straws. Too bad, I really like Ayn Rand too. Still do, the books she wrote, but the "Institute" has been pretty off lately, at least that's my opinion. Hard to watch these videos actually.

    • @geekonomist
      @geekonomist Місяць тому +3

      Show a moment where Trum cares for America. Show a moment where he admires American history and ideals. Show !!! Arbitrary much?

    • @willnitschke
      @willnitschke Місяць тому

      @@geekonomist Wow, you sound as dumb as the guy in the video. It's all about your feelings... 😅

    • @realernreeler
      @realernreeler Місяць тому

      @@geekonomist lol Trump deranged.. im supposing you believe he hates America too huh?

    • @jaredcoffin3907
      @jaredcoffin3907 Місяць тому

      Indeed it’s been “off”. Infiltrated by quasi-woke. No wonder they have exactly two followers left, lol.

    • @jameswiblishauser9745
      @jameswiblishauser9745 Місяць тому +1

      I never said he did or didn't, "I don't care" if he does or doesn't, not really. I'm just saying how I see things. How do I know what someone cares about anyway, how can someone condemn another on what they think they care or don't care about?

  • @marktaylor3726
    @marktaylor3726 Місяць тому +6

    All I know is the world was a much better place under Trump as US president than any time under Biden. You simply just have to open your eyes.

    • @jameseverett9037
      @jameseverett9037 25 днів тому

      They're more interested in their personal resentment than in the world around them. TDS is a mind reading exercise, that claims to know what Trump "actually" intends - in spite of anything he actually did - rather than what he says, but democrats automatically get credit for saying the right thing even if they don't do it.

  • @TheDreamtimezzz
    @TheDreamtimezzz Місяць тому +15

    Where are his facts and examples to back up these claims? All opinion as stated.

    • @geekonomist
      @geekonomist Місяць тому

      Ah you mean to say that you do not wish to address any of the points he has raised and to remain arbitrary?

    • @TheDreamtimezzz
      @TheDreamtimezzz Місяць тому +2

      @@geekonomist”He knows nothing and does not care about us history “. In what way? His points are just statements without support. Where is this contempt? Actions? Statements?

    • @willnitschke
      @willnitschke Місяць тому

      @@geekonomist *Ah you mean to say that you do not wish to address any of the points he has raised and to remain arbitrary?*
      How does one address someone's arse pain using reason, logic and facts? 😉

    • @geekonomist
      @geekonomist Місяць тому

      @@willnitschke I present the video as evidence. you counter with nothing evident. Good luck with that.

    • @willnitschke
      @willnitschke Місяць тому +3

      @@geekonomist But there is no evidence in the video, only insults and butt hurt, hence you're making a fool of yourself now, correct?

  • @kiDchemical
    @kiDchemical 5 днів тому

    In my experience it’s difficult to reason with a lot of Trump’s supporters as well as most of his detractors. Something about him inspires hysteria both ways.

  • @realernreeler
    @realernreeler Місяць тому +22

    Baseless accusations with no substantiating point... "just knows nothing and doesn't care"... what's the evidence he knows nothing? what does he not know in particular? we just let people come on to rant about trump for relevancy sake? It wasn't even a unique or strong claim just an opinion fueled by mainstream talking points. I'm just disappointed I held this channel to a higher standard.

    • @alexleibovici4834
      @alexleibovici4834 Місяць тому +1

      > Baseless accusations with no substantiating point...
      Maybe watching the entire video would help...

    • @willnitschke
      @willnitschke Місяць тому

      @@alexleibovici4834 Yeah that's fix it. 🤣

    • @realernreeler
      @realernreeler Місяць тому +2

      @alexleibovici4834 it's cyclical there's no objectivity or progression in terms of understanding. The leverage one talking point with another and don't elaborate on said talking points that are just recycled over and over. You think the same way tho so I'm not surprised by your response.

    • @alexleibovici4834
      @alexleibovici4834 Місяць тому +1

      @@realernreeler
      Pointing you to the entire video was all I could do for you.

    • @willnitschke
      @willnitschke Місяць тому +1

      @@alexleibovici4834 This just means you're wrong and confused because you can't defend any of criticism of your nonsense. You're a sad little fellow, but amusing. 😅

  • @jameswiblishauser9745
    @jameswiblishauser9745 Місяць тому +1

    good thinking willnitschke, that's what I like to see.

  • @jffryh
    @jffryh Місяць тому +6

    Is this guy claiming that the slogan didn't originally end with the word "again"? It was just "MAG" all this time until just now that it became "MAGA"?

  • @H8KU
    @H8KU Місяць тому +21

    Funny watching their subscriber counts tank when posting videos like this.

    • @Shozb0t
      @Shozb0t Місяць тому +2

      And yet, the National Debt will continue to grow during the next four years. A Trrummp presidency isn’t going to make your life (or your children’s lives) any easier. Maybe people will re-subscribe when Trrummp is gone (and nothing has changed for the better).
      It’s ideas that matter.

    • @willnitschke
      @willnitschke Місяць тому +2

      @@Shozb0t You don't get to pick your perfect candidate. The reality is you pick the least worst.

    • @kevinmcfarlane2752
      @kevinmcfarlane2752 Місяць тому +1

      @@Shozb0tThere’s too much focus on Trump (and Biden for that matter). It’s Republicans vs Democrats. 20 years ago the difference between them was much of a muchness. Today, the Republicans are average at best. The Democrats are totalitarian and evil. I see very little criticism by ARI of the woke, technocratic, police state that the Democrats have been constructing over the past three and a half years.

    • @Shozb0t
      @Shozb0t Місяць тому

      @@willnitschke
      I know what you mean. Do you foresee this situation happening for the next 1000 years? Would you like it to change? That’s what ARI is aiming for.

    • @willnitschke
      @willnitschke Місяць тому +2

      @@Shozb0t If that's what ARI is aiming for, they did a terrible job with this clip.

  • @robertmorris5055
    @robertmorris5055 Місяць тому +2

    How disappointing. Any Rand would not have approved.

    • @Biologist19681
      @Biologist19681 29 днів тому +2

      This may be true. Rand would be far more negative towards Trump.

  • @dankwilinski3271
    @dankwilinski3271 Місяць тому +2

    I believe Iyan Rand would have the same evaluation of you sir.

    • @dankwilinski3271
      @dankwilinski3271 16 днів тому

      How can you see the fraud in the current administration and remain quite? Pure communism that Rand escaped from and wrote about, yet this self proclaimed institute remains oddly quiet about it. Looks like a scam to me. Smells like a scam. Sounds like a scam. Utterly disgraceful and dishonest.

  • @donemrys418
    @donemrys418 Місяць тому +5

    This is 2:56 I can't get back.

    • @Nuka0915
      @Nuka0915 Місяць тому

      😂😂😂

  • @mrright1068
    @mrright1068 Місяць тому +31

    hogwash

    • @geekonomist
      @geekonomist Місяць тому +2

      Exactly what you said applies to you

  • @richardbramwell8876
    @richardbramwell8876 Місяць тому +17

    Ridiculous!
    Onkar Ghate is one of many reasons why, 20 years ago, I stopped donating to ARI...

    • @SpacePatrollerLaser
      @SpacePatrollerLaser Місяць тому

      And you spent TW FREAKING DECADES thereafter watching ARI vids? You just convinced me: There IS such a thing as Battered Wife Syndrome

    • @Weirdomanification
      @Weirdomanification Місяць тому +4

      Ghate's integrity and bravery makes me want to make more money so that I can donate.

    • @Shozb0t
      @Shozb0t Місяць тому

      20 years from now, will you remember who Trrummp is?

    • @willnitschke
      @willnitschke Місяць тому

      @@Shozb0t You seem to have some sort of TDS induced dementia.

  • @jeffreysmith694
    @jeffreysmith694 Місяць тому +27

    Wah wah wah.

    • @Zeakthecat
      @Zeakthecat Місяць тому +2

      i don't know why nor do i care to know the reason why the GOP loves to use logical fallacies to present arguments, with ad hominems being a major logical fallacy card.
      instead of saying this, present your argument, and present to the rest of the world why you think he is wrong.

    • @grumpyoldman5567
      @grumpyoldman5567 Місяць тому +5

      @@Zeakthecat LoL, it's very rich to say someone is using a logical fallacy when Onkar Ghate does not support his thesis, one could say his ad hominem attack on Trumps "motives and attitudes."

    • @Zeakthecat
      @Zeakthecat Місяць тому

      @@grumpyoldman5567 while yes this dude is using ad hominems as well, if you want to be a superior party, you have to point to the weaknesses of a party, not go down to the same level as the other party.

    • @grumpyoldman5567
      @grumpyoldman5567 Місяць тому +2

      @@Zeakthecat I'm watching the whole video now. It appears to be a bunch of garbage. I'll finish it and consider, but hell!

    • @geekonomist
      @geekonomist Місяць тому +2

      Wah x3 = a non refutation. Do you have something non-arbitrary to add?

  • @raybord1
    @raybord1 Місяць тому +16

    What a joke.

    • @geekonomist
      @geekonomist Місяць тому +1

      What a farce!

    • @raybord1
      @raybord1 Місяць тому +4

      @@geekonomist I had to unfollow. If they’re willing to put this guy on they have different priorities then I do. Stole the Name!!!!!

  • @KravMike08
    @KravMike08 Місяць тому +10

    Benjamin Franklin
    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote!"
    Charles & Mary Beard
    "At no time, at no place, in solemn convention assembled, through no chosen agents, had the American people officially proclaimed the United States to be a democracy. The Constitution did not contain the word or any word lending countenance to it, except possibly the mention of ‘We the people,' in the preamble ... When the Constitution was framed, no respectable person called himself a democrat."
    Thomas Jefferson
    "The Republican is the only form of government which is not eternally at open or secret war with the rights of mankind" (letter to William Hunter, March 11, 1790)
    Douglas MacArthur:
    "I am concerned for the security of our great Nation; not so much because of any threat from without but because of the insidious forces from within."
    H.L. Mencken
    "Democracy is a form of worship. It is the worship of jackals by jackasses."
    J. William Fulbright:
    In a democracy, dissent is an act of faith.
    Alexander Hamilton
    "We are now forming a Republican form of government. Real Liberty is not found in the extremes of democracy, but in moderate governments. If we incline too much to democracy, we shall soon shoot into a monarchy, or some other form of dictatorship."
    John F. Kennedy:
    We are not afraid to entrust the American people with unpleasant facts, foreign ideas, alien
    philosophies, and competitive values. For a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the
    truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people.
    John Simon:
    Democracy encourages the majority to decide things about which the majority is ignorant.
    Thomas Jefferson:
    A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.
    Thomas Jefferson:
    Whenever the people are well-informed, they can be trusted with their own government.
    Voltaire:
    So long as the people do not care to exercise their freedom, those who wish to tyrannize will do so; for tyrants are active and ardent, and will devote themselves in the name of any number of gods, religious and otherwise, to put shackles upon sleeping men.
    Seneca, a Roman from 63 B.C.
    "Democracy is more cruel than wars or tyrants."
    Thomas Jefferson
    "The body of the American people is substantially republican. But their virtuous feelings have been played upon by some fact with more fiction, they have been the dupes of artful maneuvers, & made for a moment to be willing instruments in forging chains for themselves."
    1928 Army training manual
    “Democracy: A government of the masses. Authority derived through mass meeting or any form of ‘direct' expression. Results in mobocracy. Attitude towards laws is that the will of the majority shall regulate, whether it is based upon deliberation or governed by passion, prejudice or impulse, without restraint or regard to consequences. Results in demagoguism, license, agitation, discontent, anarchy.”
    Alexander Hamilton
    "Real liberty is neither found in despotism or the extremes of democracy, but in moderate
    government."
    Elbridge Gerry
    "The evils we experience flow from the excess of democracy. The people do not want virtue, but are the dupes of pretended patriots."
    Edward Dowling
    "The two greatest obstacles to democracy in the United States are, first, the widespread delusion among the poor that we have a democracy, and second, the chronic terror among the rich, lest we get it."
    James Madison
    "...democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security, or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths."
    Alexander Hamilton
    "It has been observed that a pure democracy, if it were practicable, would be the most perfect government. Experience has proved that no position is more false than this. The ancient democracies, in which the people themselves deliberated, never possessed one feature of good government. Their very character was tyranny: their figure deformity."
    H.L. Mencken
    "A good politician under democracy is quite as unthinkable as an honest burglar."
    John Adams
    "Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide."
    Oscar Wilde
    "Democracy means simply the bludgeoning of the people by the people for the people."
    John Marshall, Chief Justice of the Supreme Court
    "Between a balanced republic and a democracy, the difference is like that between order and chaos."
    Duke of Northumberland, 1931
    "The adoption of Democracy as a form of Government by all European nations is fatal to good Government, to liberty, to law and order, to respect for authority, and to religion, and must eventually produce a state of chaos from which a new world tyranny will arise."
    Thomas Babington Macaulay
    “I have long been convinced that institutions purely democratic must, sooner or later, destroy liberty or civilization, or both.”
    Why on Earth would anybody want to defend something so
    evil?¿?"?¿?"
    Long live the Republic!¡!¡!¡!¡!

    • @NeoJRPG
      @NeoJRPG Місяць тому +1

      U.S. Constitution Section 2: "The House of Representatives shall be composed of Members chosen every second Year by the People of the several States"
      "When vacancies happen in the Representation from any State, the Executive Authority thereof shall issue Writs of Election to fill such Vacancies"
      Section 4: "The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof"
      Democracy is enshrined the U.S. constitution

    • @KravMike08
      @KravMike08 Місяць тому +4

      @@NeoJRPG that’s funny I cannot fine the word democracy anywhere in the constitution…. Where did you find it?¿?¿?¿
      Long live the Republic

    • @NeoJRPG
      @NeoJRPG Місяць тому +1

      @@KravMike08Elections=Democracy. Is there some non-"democracy" where elections are held? The word Republic means that power is not hereditary, and America is a Republic. A Republic with democratic elections.

    • @tommas2674
      @tommas2674 Місяць тому

      JFK was all for letting in subversives to indoctrinate, degrade and demoralize America, the pretty, and good girl. But made it sound virtuous as the left/subversives/traitors/criminals do.

    • @geekonomist
      @geekonomist Місяць тому

      Thank you for supporting OG with all of your arguments.

  • @chuck6812
    @chuck6812 Місяць тому +16

    This is complete BS. It is one thing to legitimately criticize specific issues or policies, but don't paint a broad stroke of " "He's Orange Man Bad " as a critique.....fails on all matters of fluff. Garbage...I expected more....

    • @Shozb0t
      @Shozb0t Місяць тому +2

      If you have faith (in this case, for a man) you can completely dismiss ANY criticism.
      My only question is: Who or what will you put your faith in when Trrummp is gone?

    • @chuck6812
      @chuck6812 Місяць тому

      @@Shozb0t The great mistake of Leftist thinking is to put labels on everything, stereotype everyone, put everything in the Box that they understand as a group with confirmation Bias. No one is putting faith in a man. No one is looking at his outstanding "saint-like " qualities. Quit making assumptions, stop believing the lies of the media, and use some sort of intuition to figure out for yourself, think for yourself, use Critical Thinking instead of following the sheep and the agenda of propaganda you are being fed.

    • @m007mm
      @m007mm Місяць тому +3

      ​@@Shozb0tyou don't seem to understand that it's the other way around... He wants based critique, not slander.

    • @Shozb0t
      @Shozb0t Місяць тому +2

      @@m007mm
      If the video was 15 times as long, giving examples of quotes and policy decisions, would that satisfy you?
      It would help to know what you consider America to stand for. What is the essence of America?

    • @willnitschke
      @willnitschke Місяць тому

      @@Shozb0t It would satisfy me. An idiot hurling insults is a waste of everybody's time. The "Orange Hitler" thing is getting old.

  • @LSebastien
    @LSebastien Місяць тому +9

    While Trump's statements and actions may have been widely perceived as challenging democratic norms and institutions, they do not universally indicate contempt for the American political system or the country itself. That is a Generalization fallacy. Also, ignorance of American history is not 'contempt' for America. Ignorance and contempt are separate concepts. Your argument is not rational.

    • @NeoJRPG
      @NeoJRPG Місяць тому +1

      Is it rational that someone who is ignorant of a system should be put in charge of it?

    • @geekonomist
      @geekonomist Місяць тому

      You have a generalized fallacy of what induction. You can in no way find any fact that supports Donald Trump supporting America's instituion. And many showing his contempt. The whole point of OG is to show that his is more than just ignorace. And he makes valid points, none of which you address.. good luck at the voting station with all your evasions.

    • @LSebastien
      @LSebastien Місяць тому

      @@NeoJRPG Strawman. I never said it was.

    • @LSebastien
      @LSebastien Місяць тому +3

      @@geekonomist Noticing fallacies involves deduction, not 'induction'. And I was never asked to provide any 'facts'. I was merely pointing out his argument isn't rational. I addressed his points by pointing out that they don't rationally point to a contempt of America and He never provided any solid evidence to support his claim. As for voting stations, I'm not American in the first place and making assumptions about me reveals much about your ability to think rationally.

    • @Weirdomanification
      @Weirdomanification Місяць тому

      He does not have to condemn every single institution to show his underlying contempt for the founding ideals.

  • @SuicidalBabyTTV
    @SuicidalBabyTTV Місяць тому +11

    tilting at windmills.
    waste of 3 minutes.

  • @Quietus6
    @Quietus6 Місяць тому +10

    Just a general indictment of Trump, an opinion without evidence. You might have said Trump doesn’t speak in principles…for one.

    • @geekonomist
      @geekonomist Місяць тому +1

      Hm that is exactly what he said.

  • @MikeJussi
    @MikeJussi 28 днів тому +2

    Onkar Ghate does not know what is talking about ! Disgrace ! Get a job !

  • @mepatton
    @mepatton Місяць тому +25

    Nope. None of this is remotely accurate.

    • @geekonomist
      @geekonomist Місяць тому +3

      And none of your words are remotely addressing any of his arguments. Therefore arbitrary. Therefore a Mindless Trump Suppoter.

    • @SuicidalBabyTTV
      @SuicidalBabyTTV Місяць тому +4

      @@geekonomist tds

    • @geekonomist
      @geekonomist Місяць тому +1

      @@SuicidalBabyTTV TMS

    • @willnitschke
      @willnitschke Місяць тому +3

      @@geekonomist Could you bullet point his "arguments" for us? The ones that are supported by facts, not his butt hurt. 😉

    • @geekonomist
      @geekonomist Місяць тому

      ​​⁠so you are also not addressing his points. You now somehow make it my responsibility to list his points all of which hurt your butt, but in your case this doubly painful because this is the aperture through which you speak and breathe.
      Which of his points is incorrect ? Answer that and you can then call yourself non-arbitrary, and intelligible. Good luck with that.

  • @kewlbeone5949
    @kewlbeone5949 Місяць тому +11

    Maybe instead of reading Rand, he should try Hayek - Road to Serfdom (1942) and wake up.

    • @CapitalistSpy
      @CapitalistSpy Місяць тому

      2 wrong doesn’t make a right! GOP voted for a convicted felon.
      Hayek was bleeding heart on many issues that you would disagree with

    • @tommas2674
      @tommas2674 Місяць тому

      he is a subversive of another country, they came in bred/ breed... go into the traitor party for and by criminal's terrorist, ...

    • @geekonomist
      @geekonomist Місяць тому +1

      How is Hayek not a socialist? Just read him! Do you have any other non-refutatinos of OG's arguments to add in order to remain as arbitrary as before?

    • @kewlbeone5949
      @kewlbeone5949 Місяць тому +3

      @@geekonomist Are you insane?

    • @geekonomist
      @geekonomist Місяць тому +1

      @@kewlbeone5949 Are you sane?

  • @diegomorales8616
    @diegomorales8616 Місяць тому +2

    I agree with the thesis, but there are no references or quotes that support this thesis in this video.

  • @deepaksrivastava1825
    @deepaksrivastava1825 Місяць тому +6

    Very pathetic opinion and veiws……clearly personal bias…..highly disappointed to find such perspective on Ayn rand platform….😢

  • @simonwiltshire7089
    @simonwiltshire7089 Місяць тому +11

    Nope. Opinion piece and a waste of my time. Zero analysis.

  • @vking8084
    @vking8084 Місяць тому +14

    Ayn rand would be disgusted if she was still alive to see this nonsense as much as i love rand you've earned my unfollow

    • @geekonomist
      @geekonomist Місяць тому +1

      Because Rand would have loved Trump? Your unfollow is most welcome, since you should have never followed, given that you don't think independently in the first place.

    • @Shozb0t
      @Shozb0t Місяць тому +4

      That’s called housecleaning.

    • @vking8084
      @vking8084 Місяць тому +3

      @@geekonomist like rand would approve of something as ridiculous as to convict someone with charges that are politicaly motivated

    • @vking8084
      @vking8084 Місяць тому +3

      ​@@geekonomist If you want to have unbiased view points look at both sides and do your own research about it instead of listening to people that are clearly paid to say such bs stuff

    • @geekonomist
      @geekonomist Місяць тому +1

      @@vking8084 You mean listen to people such as you? Paid by whom these other people? What are they saying that is incorrect? Any points you care to refute in order to appear less arbitrary?

  • @IDPYouTube
    @IDPYouTube Місяць тому +14

    Unsubscribed, bye bye

    • @TheJustinJ
      @TheJustinJ Місяць тому +2

      Good.
      This person is the embodied problem with Trumpets. And the only reason he ever rose to power.

  • @sdrc92126
    @sdrc92126 Місяць тому +2

    "Tippecanoe and Tyler Too"

  • @fshsac
    @fshsac Місяць тому +6

    I don't know where this interviewee gets his information, but he is sadly misinformed. Contempt for America? Is he serious? We had low inflation, not porous borders, and relative peace with foreign countries compared to now. Although it is always interesting to hear a different side, the person presenting needs to base their opinions on more than just name calling. This guy would make me not to want watch this channel.

  • @m007mm
    @m007mm Місяць тому +8

    Sounds like a bunch of ad hominum's...
    Could you deliver some proof or examples for your claims?

    • @willnitschke
      @willnitschke Місяць тому +4

      Nope...

    • @requestnearby
      @requestnearby Місяць тому +6

      I was hoping for more objective arguments from an objective institution. 😔

  • @sythe77
    @sythe77 Місяць тому +20

    Who TF is this guy?

    • @geekonomist
      @geekonomist Місяць тому +1

      Who TF are you?

    • @Zeakthecat
      @Zeakthecat Місяць тому

      @@geekonomist Who TF am i?

    • @geekonomist
      @geekonomist Місяць тому +1

      yes,. who tf are you?

    • @geekonomist
      @geekonomist Місяць тому

      @@Zeakthecat appârently that is TF mode of argument in your head,

    • @Zeakthecat
      @Zeakthecat Місяць тому

      @@geekonomist lol i thought we were doing a bit on the guy, my bad.

  • @TheTplehar
    @TheTplehar Місяць тому +28

    Utter nonsense.
    Unsubscribing

    • @CapitalistSpy
      @CapitalistSpy Місяць тому +3

      You have moral weakness

    • @geekonomist
      @geekonomist Місяць тому +4

      Not an argument. Should have never subscribed in the first place!

    • @Shozb0t
      @Shozb0t Місяць тому +5

      You can only unsubscribe once. Don’t overestimate the impact it will have.

    • @TheTplehar
      @TheTplehar Місяць тому

      @@Shozb0t exactly. Surprising that anyone even bothered 😕 to respond with observations about "moral weakness" and assumptions that anybody cares.

    • @TheTplehar
      @TheTplehar Місяць тому

      @@Shozb0t precisely! surprised 😮 that anyone even cared enough to respond.

  • @torusmayhem7431
    @torusmayhem7431 20 днів тому

    What is the evidence of Trump having contempt for America?

  • @IanGilmore
    @IanGilmore Місяць тому +2

    Very timely. Imagine Trump trying to read and understand anything from The Federalist Papers.

    • @useyourbrain1539
      @useyourbrain1539 Місяць тому +2

      Doubting Biden has based upon his misuse of govt powers. Please, show me a list of Trumps misuse of those powers.

    • @willnitschke
      @willnitschke Місяць тому

      How about ANY recent US president understanding any of that? 😅
      I believe they have anti-psychotic medications now for TDS sufferers.

  • @panzer00
    @panzer00 Місяць тому +1

    This is why I unsubbed months ago. Unfortunately, you're still harboring ignorant opinions.

  • @timothyduggan8989
    @timothyduggan8989 Місяць тому +14

    Unsubscribe

    • @Shozb0t
      @Shozb0t Місяць тому +1

      I suppose you equate your unsubscribe with a stick of dynamite. But the fact remains that you aren’t the target audience of the channel. I would trade 500 of you for one curious thinker.

    • @willnitschke
      @willnitschke Місяць тому +2

      @@Shozb0t Is the target of the channel the people who will never watch or subscribe to it, then?

    • @Shozb0t
      @Shozb0t Місяць тому

      @@willnitschke
      That would be illogical. But people don’t need to be subscribed in order for them to be intrigued by the message. If watching a handful of videos inspires them to learn more about Ayn Rand, then mission accomplished.
      Objectivism has reality on its side. It’s just a matter of time before more and more people realize just how corrupt our entire system is (and the two parties which run it). Then some real improvements can occur. Even if you are opposed to Objectivism, you will benefit from its impact on the culture. Just as people who are opposed to fosssiil fueells benefit from their impact every day.

    • @willnitschke
      @willnitschke Місяць тому

      @@Shozb0t The vast majority of people are not interested in reality. Objectivism is hated by religious types and Leftists primiarly, because both groups despise reality. Attacking the least worst option based on one's confused feelings (see the above clip) only alienates the minority who are interested in dealing with the world pragmatically.

  • @christopherkramer7223
    @christopherkramer7223 Місяць тому +4

    Contempt for the country how? You're arguing that his treatment of the presidency as an executive business manager can be equated to a hatred of America and it's ideals and I don't see that at all.

    • @jameseverett9037
      @jameseverett9037 25 днів тому

      TDS is never remotely concerned with reasons.

  • @greggpeterson9949
    @greggpeterson9949 Місяць тому +23

    Typical never Trumper. Absurd analysis.

    • @geekonomist
      @geekonomist Місяць тому

      Typical evasive arbitrary comment with no refutation of what OG presented as arguments. Therefore you are a Trump Supporter, and desever the cownfall of the worst Democratic President in history: Donald Trump.

    • @willnitschke
      @willnitschke Місяць тому +1

      @@geekonomist You keep babbling about the "arguments" in the above clip, but remain unable to list any. 😉

    • @geekonomist
      @geekonomist Місяць тому

      @@willnitschke You keep evading all the ones he made. You are the one held to show his flaws. He spoke; his video. Not your dime.

    • @willnitschke
      @willnitschke Місяць тому +1

      @@geekonomist Which ones did I evade? Oh right, you still can't name one argument. Hence, the evasive one is you, the guy with butt hurt. 😅

    • @geekonomist
      @geekonomist Місяць тому

      @@willnitschke Video is evident. You are not addressing it. You require me to watch it for you. Evasion all the way to the voting booth. Good luck

  • @vendelinosalomon9119
    @vendelinosalomon9119 Місяць тому

    canceling

  • @johnnynick6179
    @johnnynick6179 Місяць тому +3

    Can you give us some examples of Trump's misuse of power? I understand you don't like him but be more specific about what he did. So far, you and Yaron are failing miserably in making your case.... and I have NEVER voted for Trump.

  • @geekonomist
    @geekonomist Місяць тому +4

    One can measure the extent of TMS by the inverse of the number of arguments presented by those in the Comments multiplied by the number of thumbs up such comments get.
    Trump Mindlessness Syndrome is a palpable thing.

  • @TonyFreeman-LocoTonyF
    @TonyFreeman-LocoTonyF Місяць тому +6

    See ya.

  • @jefft8597
    @jefft8597 Місяць тому +4

    The discussion doesn't even reflect the title. Just a talking head.

  • @JasonScott-ep2wv
    @JasonScott-ep2wv 27 днів тому

    Exactly, make this country great in terms of comparing one decade to another? Is MAGA campaign about revamping American industrial prowess when there was less regulation on businesses? Its very catching to boomer generations and some gen exers who watched inflation and taxes rise since the beginning of the federal reserve. The ones who lived throgh the depression would be wary of MAGA pre ww2. Post ww2 the US was the only country able to function in large capacity manufacturing and had abundance of resources for development. Its impossible to start a business from scratch in the present, current market without a loan. A loan is the new age indentured servantude and the banks (the fed) control the individualist. All the manufacturing is over seas as a result of terms with a neo capitalistic movement to make America a consumer nation. The US will never manufacturing cell phones in Iowa or Indiana or California. Elon Musk tried, tried and tried and saud the heck with it. Right now, there's a massive propaganda campaign to belittle Boeing manufacturing as infurior to Chinese passenger airliner manufacturers. These guys constantly copy cat US r&d through cyber security breaches lolololand they never have to pay for the r&d. The world wants to see America as a poverty striken nation, and in debt to IMF or whatever movement has a distaste for the USA as a constitutional republic of states. These states must share the wealth or there will be another world war. Yes, I went off a tagent, my apologies. Trump is another tool to appease the masses that are right now enraged.

  • @seedsofwisdom4u
    @seedsofwisdom4u Місяць тому +3

    Unfollow

  • @edwardburroughs1489
    @edwardburroughs1489 Місяць тому

    Bit vague. From a British perspective it seems that many Americans appear to assume the world came into being, fully formed, in 1776; Mr Trump is no different in that regard. Nevertheless from the point of view of an Objectivist that shouldnt be a problem, right?

  • @DerykRobosson
    @DerykRobosson Місяць тому +1

    I don't like the man because he isn't principled.
    You two speaking like you're mind readers is amusing.

  • @JamesGough1
    @JamesGough1 Місяць тому +2

    Ellsworth Toohey wannabees.

  • @alexanderscott2456
    @alexanderscott2456 Місяць тому +2

    I might be voting for Trump, but I have complete and utter contempt for him and the direction he has dragged the Republican Party. Amoral Conservatives want to pretend that Trump is not an amoral power-luster without any basic respect for the rule of law. His most active supporters love him not in spite of his amoralism and lack of principles, but because of it.

    • @willnitschke
      @willnitschke Місяць тому

      Nobody gets to vote for the candidate they would have picked, only the least worst option from that collection of wrecking balls otherwise known as the political class.

  • @CapitalistSpy
    @CapitalistSpy Місяць тому +6

    The only thing that Trump wants:: Power

    • @sythe77
      @sythe77 Місяць тому +15

      Replace "Trump" with "Democrats" and you are on the money.

    • @CapitalistSpy
      @CapitalistSpy Місяць тому

      @@sythe77 are you dumb enough to not see it?

    • @KravMike08
      @KravMike08 Місяць тому +5

      And what exactly do you base that statement on?¿?¿?¿?

    • @CapitalistSpy
      @CapitalistSpy Місяць тому

      @@KravMike08​​⁠just watch the news? Remember that perfect call with GA Secretary of State?
      You are so delusional in your low-class tribalism.

    • @sdrc92126
      @sdrc92126 Місяць тому

      Weren't people angry with trumf for not invoking emergency powers over covid?

  • @DarthQueefious
    @DarthQueefious Місяць тому +3

    talking about the US rather than Israel. A nice change of pace.