KSI Argues With Calfreezy About LEGACY
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if Cals not careful, he'll be KSI's third fight!
For sure 🤣
How old are you?
3 fights on the same night? 😂
@@Fioletovy im 9 nearly 10
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When Cal asked if people will remember JJ after he dies, 100%. This kid has impacted millions of people. Brought smiles on so many peoples faces it’s incredible and to say he will just be forgotten as a nobody is a statement in of of itself.
He'll be forgotten in the next 200 years max
Em no I don't think so, je is revolutionary like Einstein or The Wright Brothers, He's only known by few millions and hasn't affected billions like most Goats have, Cal is right
@@dimitryanyanwu7681 Mate when people think of youtube, esp UK youtube his name will be brought up
@@dimitryanyanwu7681 I think you underestimate how big UA-cam is. There will be internet historians (not the UA-cam guy rn) in the future who are dedicated to keeping internet history alive, the same way we know people from decades and centuries ago. Only now there are far more ways to document history.
it’s not like ksi is gonna be remembered for centuries let’s be honest. the internet is always evolving and after he’s gone it’s on with the next.
Essentially JJ uses his Legacy as motivation to keep going. To keep trying out new things and climb higher than he thought possible
Bro, I don't really know where Cal is going with this, if you're saying leaving a legacy is pointless, that inspiring peole even after you die is pointless, then what's the point with everything. Ye, I agree with JJ, with legacy, we inspire other people to create a better world. Like Cal saying that to him, Einstein is just a name in a conversation, but what about for scientists today? Some of them were probably inspired by him, same with Muhammad Ali, Kobe, Freddy Mercury, Technoblade, Stan Lee, Bethoven, etc. All these different kinds of people that inspire us, changing our lives forever by the things that they've done, being the hero even after they're dead... THAT'S WHAT YOU CALL LEGACY.
@@kalilasqary4090 exactly bro. couldn't have said it better myself. although KSI won't have the same legacy as someone like Einstein he's still pushing as far as he can which you have to respect
@@kalilasqary4090 While yes I agree with those names. There are others who are less known but still tried to do their best. But Cal's pov is stupid tbh. Why bother living if your name is going to be forgotten. Why bother spending thousands to have literally no impact on the future. There's no point to it. But why bother looking at it like that? Your kids will have kids and they'll have kids. Your actions today will affect those for a thousand years. Whether they remember you or not
I really enjoyed this. It’s so great when people can have an honest conversation even when opinions differ. Well done
Yes, legacy won't matter to him after he has died, however it is keeping him happy whilst he is alive knowing that he will leave something great behind for others. At the level he has reached he must need something he can continuously work towards to benefit his mental health.
I mean a lot of his achievements are mislabelled. To call him a “boxer” who sold out an arena is a complete lie. He is more an influencer who sold out an arena in the same sense as a celebrity who decided to do an exhibition fight. He sold out the arena not because of his actual prowess as a boxer or sue to the entertainment he provides with craft in boxing but instead because of his status as an entertainer. The best boxers in my district alone could probably give him a proper hiding in a boxing match, I’m sorry to say. So to call him a boxer is a lie. The same is also true for his music. He isn’t a musician who has sold a no.1 album but an influencer who did it. The same way as if Will Smith decided he was going to be serious and have good features and make an album then he would get a no.1 album. The overwhelming majority of people who listen to his music are the same Yt viewers.
Exactly. Believing life is meaningless and nothing will matter in the end has lead me into depression and suicidal thoughts. It is the idea that I can have an impact on the world and leave a legacy that actually MAKES me happy.
@@destinedforgreatness1175 he's fighting 2 fights in a night, one of them being a pro (a pretty bad one but still a pro) to let off ring rust. He must have improved enough to be called a boxer
Cal was actually not listening
@@Glitchmelon The guy he is fighting is 15kg lighter than him, which is quite funny because he didn’t want to fight Rahman who is 13kg heavier than him, but has no problem fighting someone else while having this much weight advantage. The guy is also only 23 years old and started his career in 2017 (which is only 1 year more experience than KSI) and the guy has competed in 7 matches over the course of 5.5 years AND, unlike KSI, he isn’t gifted world class training, coaches and facilities. To call him a professional is a joke, KSI has every advantage imaginable.
Cal's gotta remember we're in the age of digital storage. Unless youtube disappears one day KSI's legacy is right here for anyone to view. It's harder for things to be forgotten about nowadays
Obviously how happy you are with what you've done is what matters if you decide to measure it like JJ then you'll likely get successful, but if that's not necessary for you, it's easier, both are right in a way.
Cal isn't wrong. Legacy or not, it's easy to be forgotten in the future.
But at the same time, trying to leave something behind that could be remembered forever is a good goal to thrive for in life.
Yes the likely hood is if you dont create something life-changing and are famous for it then you will be forgotten eventually however that doesn’t mean you still cant leave a legacy behind for the people that knew you it isn’t pointless to inspire people after your gone.
They say you always die twice.
Once when you die physically.
The second time is when you're forgotten by everyone else.
The second is the majority of people who have ever lived. Ultimately legacy is what your actions and your intentions were. People think there’s nothing after this life? Calm, we’ll see
You can appreciate your own "legacy" when you retire too. When JJ quits youtube/sidemen/music etc, he can look back all the things he's achieved. He doesn't have to die to have, and look back at his legacy lol
When cal says “it doesn’t matter because your dead now” he doesn’t understand that it means “nothing to you and you only, (since your dead)”. It matters so much more to the people that witness your legacy. An example for me is the legacy Aryton Senna left behind, it doesn’t matter to him, but to me he is one of my greatest inspiration. When you die, you leave nothing behind apart from peoples memories of you; legacy. so if you are to choose between leaving behind nothing, or leaving behind great things to be remembered by, which would you choose?
Couldn’t have said it better myself…
For some people constantly building towards something is enjoyable, otherwise they don’t feel fulfilled, you can call it legacy or whatever you like, cal is saying just do whatever you like or enjoy or want, but it seems like constantly bettering himself IS what ksi enjoys and wants, regardless of legacy, almost like legacy is a byproduct of what he does and enjoys, idk if this makes any sense ahah
Summed up very well👍🏻 I think JJ sees it more of a journey and Cal sees it as a resume
Word.
LEGACY IS ABOUT MAKING THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE WHEN YOU LEAVE THROUGH INSPIRING AND IMPROVING SOCIETY.
@@shush810 Bruh i think u left all caps on
Makes sense, big up
jj is my number 1 inspiration. he’s from the same city as me, same mentality, proving the haters wrong, wants that legacy and goat status. it’s been hard for me to find ppl with the same mentality as me but JJ truly is goat status man look at all that’s he’s done. truly an inspiration to the youth i love u JJ big up watford big up north london ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
ig this is what separates jjs success and cals
@manav dongare without ksi he aint sht
@manav dongare I’m a fan of cal, but ksi is on another level and it shows in their opinions
I wonder why Cal doesn't see JJ as someone who can carry a huge legacy. I mean he's been at the top of his game forever now. I get the same vibe from other sidemen sometimes too. I get not being a yes man but at some point they should understand how hard it is to get to the level that JJ is on being that they are UA-camrs too. Kinda weird
They do, just hear how Simon and Randy talk about ksi on their podcast. They are always bigging him up
I agree to an extent to what cal is saying. Legacy is only applied for the most memorable and impactful . In 50 years the people who will be remembered the most from UA-cam are pewdiepie and Mr Beast as they are the most impactful UA-camrs ever. Just in the same way how no one knows or cares about who invented the first cellphone but everyone knows and cares about who invented Apple. Impactful and memorable. And that’s not to say JJ can’t be impactful and memorable however what Cal is saying is that he doubts he’ll be the most impactful and memorable especially in a world that’s changing faster than ever before in regards to technology.
Its because JJ is a down to earth humble guy when it comes to his friends. But i feel like because of this fact..some of them like Cal forget just how massive JJ is and look JJ is even taking time out of his day to come on his little podcast that lets be honest most dont know it exists. I feel like Cal is taking JJ for granted. Every podcast JJ went on he has become the highest viewed video of that channel.
If you think of it ksi is the only relevant OG UA-camr. Nigahiga ray william are gone(even tho ray still posts shorts only tho). Pewdiepie next successor is mr.beast and he is not relevant anymor. Alex wassabi, also not relevant, he was only relevant anytime ksi or deji mentioned his name in the last 6 years but nothing groundbreaking. Fousey, same thing his career goes up and down. Vitally, his career into shambles. So many OG youtubers have fallen off. KSI is the only one that managed to last for so many years. He adapted to the change and connected with the new community. He really is the real king of UA-cam.
Get of his D kid hes a personality. Talking about legacy and being a goat is just ridiculous
As a Muslim, legacy is an important thing as if you leave something good for people you will be rewarded even if it’s as simple as tree you planted where people used the shade or ate it’s fruits.
What does u being Muslim have to do with anything
Same with all abrahamic philosopies buddy.
Why not identify with God and have your own experience with them experiences souly ?
Why does there need to be division ?
When does it stop ?
It's not your fault your divided and conquered by Abraham and Babylonia.
My God don't care about man's words to my God There the same as a cows mows a cat's meow a dog's woof.
You follow abrahamic philosopies.
Alot of killing in his his-story.
I Love You.
❤️❤️❤️
My God is off busy creating existence.
@@oldomurchu4462 Idk if you’re talking to me but ur saying why does their have to be a divide then start comparing Gods. Another thing is assuming ur talking about Christianity and Islam, they both believe in one God so there is no such this as ‘my God and ur God’ as we believe in the same one God. Next time educate urself before u start waffling and adding poetry to ur contradicting statements
@@adz4681bro your deity and his deity are fairytales made by madmen who were ped0s and savages.
Stop adding your religion to everything
KSI inspired new generations of UA-camrs and Artists, even after he's gone, he paved the way for many who came and will come. He'll be remembered as a pioneer. Self-made, persistent and a motivating figure.
He will be forgotten after like 50 years m8
@@ananiabebe6329 maybe by you , but for someone he inspired on a bad day he’ll live on through their accomplishments
@@shanks5982 And that's me, I'll always remember.
@@shanks5982 someone he inspired isn't gonna be alive in 120 years for example he will be forgotten in few decades and his legacy would mean nothing
@@ananiabebe6329 it depends on how you think , inspire you today to do more than you would do , that improves the quality of life of your future kids or by you being inspired you inspire people around you to accomplish more , this changes the future , imagine if Elon musk never found inspiration , it only takes one to make a difference
If your grandad was inspired by his generation or someone before it allowed him to be better and helped your dad then it passed on to you
To sum up, Cal just wants to be content with his own lifetime, JJ lives to inspire the next generation and leave a positive mark on millions. Both are fine, but they clearly determine the difference between success and worldwide recognition.
i get cals point but ksi has the better mindset, cause at the end of the day the legacy is there, when ksi dies if it lasts or not doesnt matter to him hes dead. but however its the journey that matters and memories.
Genuinely envy these UA-camrs, who put their life in the public eye and have confidence above anything. Sidemen, Callux, Gib, Calfreezy and the rest who are great to watch. I'm sure a lot of us wish we had the confidence they had and did UA-cam.
Cal is speaking the raw, unfiltered truth that everything we say or do is ultimately pointless and inconsequential, given a far enough timeline, where we are just grains of sand in the vastness of time and the universe. And there's a freedom in knowing that, so just enjoy the time that you get given. But as KSI rightly says, then you have no purpose or reason for living if you have nothing to strive for, nothing to achieve.
Life is what you make it, so making the choice to reach for success, work hard and create a legacy is a great way to use the time you have, even if, in the end, nothing really matters.
A man who plants a tree knowing he will never sit in its shade understands the meaning of life
Honestly that's just a sad life. Everything has a creator and we were created by Allah that's what I believe,this time here is just a test were you're meant to be tested,that's the actual purpose of this life. People who don't obey the rules will get to enjoy pleasures that last a few moments then will suffer for all eternity in hell. No matter how much people want to deny it when you look at everything on this planet and space it all goes back to Allah who created it from nothing. If nothing existed then someone created it and the answer is literally obvious to everyone who has taken 10mins to think about it,lot's of people just don't want to follow the rules that have been set and there will be consequences for those people. Life isn't just eating,sleeping,having fun and working to earn a living
That’s your way of thinking, it’s your reality but not for everyone else. Some people might tell you, we are here for 100 years or so and then we die and we mean nothing and no one remembers us, unless you build a legacy and have something to be remembered by, that’s what shows that you’ve had an impact on the world and humanity. It’s honor and beating adversity that is remembered, not the number of subscribers or the material things like money, look at The spartan Leonidas, he went and sacrificed himself, brave, knowing fully he would die, for his own people of his kind and that defined his Legacy and he will always be remembered, what does it matter that you lived your puny useless life with a bit more happiness. Reals happiness is fulfillment and real purpose is doing something that will leave a long lasting print on the history of mankind.
@@sajadfadhel7727 You are just scared of the fact that your life is pointless thats why search a point in religion
But Cal isn‘t saying you shouldn‘t have goals or create your own purpose. Legacy to KSI is highly contingent on what others think of him, so in a sense all he‘s doing is living for others, which is pointless. Everything truly is pointless. So just do what YOU enjoy in the meantime.
I think legacy is the motivation for JJ to change AT LEAST 1 person's life around. To be proof that he set the pathway to success and he can leave that behind when he passes. Cal's question to that is well once YOU are dead, your legacy means nothing because you've passed on and your legacy will eventually fade. I believe it means something, definitely not absoutely nothing, but I agree some people's legacies last longer than others for sure. Some people need the drive to do better in their lives to keep on going. Live life to the fullest, for something. Legacy is huge for your children too, give them something to look up to!
Legacy is where your actions inspire one and their actions inspire another. Regardless if your name is remembered your energy lives on in the individuals down that line.
Ksi is definetly an inspiration fr fr what he was and what he has become its crazzyy
Ksi mentality is admirable I find it really inspiring. Not to low block Cal but you can clearly see why JJ is where he is and cal has not reached those same levels because for ksi he’s always wanting more. To try different things and to set new goals that constantly challenge himself. He’s not content with just being average or good or excellent he wants to continue to thrive and expand to be the goat of all goats. Admirable
Cal just wants to enjoy his life and have fun, which is more important to lots of people as once you die, you die. Cal is still successful, he has youtube and a podcast, the same way jj has youtube and his side projects.
Space exploration is inspiring though many of us wont be around to see it. It gives us hope and motivation. JJ's legacy will be an inspiration to so many people. People who perhaps havent even been born yet. Legacy can help JJ in his motivation now. It can help other people when hes gone.
Being part of history is very important thing, Wayne Rooney England top goal scorer, michae jackson greatest entertainer, these legacy have inspired someone in the world which is why legacy will make the world carry on and improve man kind. So ksi having a huge legacy is very important and will become idolised generations to come
Calfreezy himself has never had anyone come up to him and tell him how they were inspired him and became successful, he has never had parents tell ksi about how their dying children in their last moments were able to laugh and be happy because of JJ. There are many reasons why Cal doesn’t understand and it’s purely because he isn’t KSI and will never be KSI. It’s the same way I do not understand JJ’s perspective but I respect it
I think Cal's point is that instead of constantly looking in the future and striving to leave a legacy when u pass, enjoy the moment for now instead of always looking into the future
Agreed, JJ's point seemed to be more about the future whereas Cals seemed to be related to the present
But what I don’t think Cal was able to comprehend is that JJ is enjoying the shit he’s doing as well, he isn’t doing it purely out of “fuck it it’s for my legacy even though I hate it”. Cal seemed to revert back to having to enjoy what you’re doing a lot which is true but that doesn’t apply to JJ since he said he does enjoy it.
Jj is enjoying what he is doing to leave a legacy
@@sly369 💯 he’s found the sweet spot for him
If I'm dead but the legacy I leave behind inspires even just one person... it's not useless
That's more than enough motivation for me to keep hustling
JJ's analogy on 'Legacy' is interesting. It's just striving to be the best version yourself which is essentially a never ending goal. Legacy doesn't only mean being remembered by the public. It's about leaving a mark in a industry even unknowingly in the future and also providing endless amounts of support for your family.
The difference in mindset between KSI and Freezy explains the difference in their success. I can’t believe he asked JJ if he thought anyone would care when he died; I’m gonna be extremely sad to see that on the news when he does pass. He’s touched the lives of my generation in an astonishing way, and that is legacy.
I think what jj said makes a lot of sense, when you have a journey and you you go by your journey with others or with people watching or witnessing or being even famous enough for someone to discover your legacy, you have actually left something behind, even when Einstein had died we still study him and look up to his journey and paths he took. I think thats what we all want to achieve and as time goes on we find different ways to do it. My perspective on this convo.
a way for cal to understand it would be.... cal values enjoying the moments he is alive, jj values working towards a legacy, and in working towards that legacy, his enjoyment of his time alive is boosted because not only does he feel like he's fulfilling a goal, but enjoying it along the way. that's jj's method of enjoying his time alive, and cal will have his own.
Cal you have to understand that you leave behind stuff for future generations.. and it does matter.. if you ever have a kid I guarantee your thoughts on leaving a legacy behind changes
Muhammed Ali. ...
@@sly369 what about Muhammad ali?
Legacy and being an inspiration should always be a goal because the world need individuals that inspire the youth to become their best or show persons you can achieve a lot , it lives on because in 100years time someone’s grandad or great granddad could have been a ksi fan that got inspired and did more for himself and now his kids benefits and he’ll share his story of what made him the way he is , all it takes is one individual out of the millions to take inspiration and make themselves into a pivotal moment for human history, the same person could be depressed and stressed and find inspiration in the weirdest places
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If you have a life interesting enough and achieve enough that someone could research your life, write books about your life ect, that is legacy, and that is what KSI has achieved/is achieving
one person is thinking selfishly and the other one isn't. wanting to motivate and push people to be there best self, is what legacy is.
Ksi and sidemen will be remembered. The sidemen are the first group of guys who are consistent. Once they stop releasing the sidemen videos, there will be other groups like them who have been inspired by the sidemen and it will carry on forever. As you know youtube hasn’t been around for long and it is people like JJ who have started something different for UA-cam, entertaining you in a way which has never been done before. There are billions of people who watch videos on youtube and it’s not dying anytime soon, we can only see it going up. JJ and sidemens will be remembered for being the first successful group on youtube for entertaining everyone. You dont have to do something revolutionary like albert einsten to create a legacy, for e.g there are groups like the Beatles who will be remembered for what they have done for music, and I’m sure there are many people who are inspired by them and did well in life because of them, that’s legacy.
The mindset cal has is a big reason why people get depressed, have no purpose in life, no structure but he makes an interesting point but it has its effects mentality
If you have something that drives you have structure in your life and gives you a sense of control of yourself
It's people like JJ who have and need a greater goal, a goal that is unachievable in a sense because people like JJ destroy their goals which is why legacy is important as its like a never-ending goal to keep going and keep revolutionalising
I think the word legacy implies that the point is to be remembered. Personally I agree with KSI that I want to become the best, but for myself and for God. Everyone is forgotten eventually, but spiritually it still matters to be the best you can be
Paving a path for others to follow shouldn't be too hard to understand & yet Freezy really don't get it. Considering he has gained way more than others by hanging on to the coat tails of his more successful friends whilst they plough the road ahead creating a legacy & then not seeing it says a lot.
they really do argue!
good fellas podcast rings more fr
You can tell Cal is envious!
The difference between Cal and JJ in the conversation reminds me of Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak. Both achieve something great in life but one is satisfied with that and the other wants to go even further
That's why Cal will never get on KSI's level. Their mentalities already is so different. Just because you're dead doesn't mean what you've done is nothing. Like KSI said, it's about being the best that you can so that other people can look at that and get inspired to make themselves better. It's like a smaller version of Kobe Bryant. One of the GOATs of basketball - just because he passed away doesn't mean we stop saying "Kobe" when we shoot a paper towel ball to the trashcan. That's legacy.
You're saying that as if Cal wants to be on JJ's "level", whatever that means. No one claimed he wanted to be.
Also, and I stand by this, naming yourself is everything. I can't imagine, even if Cal had a following of tens of millions, no one'd be saying "freezy", but "KSI" is just sort of catchy. It's also easier to label a certain face to the letters KSI, cal looks like every third person💀
for now, we say "kobe"when we shoot a ball, but eventually at 1 point, whether it takes 10 years, 50 years, 100 years, 500 years or even 10,000 years when humans leave earth, eventually there will come a point when no one will know the name kobe, and no one will know the name ksi, and no one will know you, thats cals point, no legacy lasts forever so it doesnt matter
@@antonrnik That's a good point. I assumed that cal wanted to be on KSI's level. Maybe he doesn't want to be. Good catch there
@@Nathan-ux1bb Well technically we don't know about Kobe's name and how long it'll last, given the current and future technology. It could most definitely dwindle away or it can last longer than we think. We live in the age where you can look up anybody and their legacy will pop up. It all depends on how strongly the current generation reminds the next generation about it.
this guy doesnt care about legacy because he has accepted where he is at and doesnt want to go further legacy is a motivator to drive u forward who cares if u are remembered in 200 years or not its the thought of been remembered then that drives u to do better
"Legacy leaves a mark on the world and people"
I agree with everything chip said…..
Its all down to whether you're willing to live with yourself. Most people like to to do the bare minimum most like to be on top
Hahaha that comment about hazard at the end made me bite, fair play
I still didn't understand what Cal was trying to say there, it almost seemed like Cal was hating on his mentality trying to bring JJ down to his level.
The reason why he's so successful its literally because of his mentality and that is to leave huge MF legacy behind so that people will aspire to be a better everyday of their lives.
It's not hating it's challenging his viewpoint, they've been friends for way too long for it to be hate
@@stevetrevor7004 fans gonna be fans ig, I think they forget they are friends
@@lorcanzo2498 true, I see both points of views
No Cal is a bit of nihilist in this video. He believes that legacy is meaningless. He wasn’t hating on JJ, he was just saying what’s the point in trying to build a legacy when in the end it doesn’t matter. I definitely don’t think he was hating but just trying to prove a point.
@@badtoxxin7909 he is trying to make content
Etika is a huge example. He was a legend. Yes he wasnt okay mentally. But all the fond memories he brings when i think back is truly special. There wont be another etika, another ksi, another logan paul etc. Thats the beauty of the universe.
The sad thing is though, 100 years from now no one will remember etika (i was a huge fan), so its hard to say whether many youtubers will be remembered at all apart from maybe mr beast due to what he has done and the impact of it.
I can’t see the full episode on Spotify??
I feel like legacy is something you can be remembered for longer than than your life span, such as something that will passed down for generations like Ksi and his friends telling their kids about everything they accomplished and that will be passed on to them they will pass it on to there kids etc it’s on the internet which is a plus considering you can watch everything they did such as Muhammad Ali or Kobe Bryant, Wilt chamberlain (I’m a sports guy) your gonna tell your kids how good they where at what they did, like wilt had a 100 points in one game a record that might never be broken that’s in the history books forever which is legacy.
2:10 legacy goat talk
Agree with jj because." kobe bryant legacy left a mark on the world like me I started to play basketball because of him now I'm working towards to nba
You’ll get there one day brother
But ksi ain't no kobe he is just a youtuber
But is everyone basketball oriented
where is this full podcast at
Big up JJ and chip🔥
It's not about making people care after you die, it's about making a significant enough impact, that makes people admire and respect what you did, the ultimate form of respect is leaving behind a legacy that people admire. Obv Cal doesn't care about Einstein, because that's not in his realm of interest, but for people who are in that realm, what he did is one of the most respectable achievements.
Brother what do you mean it means nothing? For those like me , I will always remember him until the moment i die , because he's already the goat for me and he made my days many times and don't forget something , this is a new world so whatever you do stays on the internet for ever , his boxing matches will remain , his music will remain , his videos will remain so his name will remain too ❤
God bless you all and your families 🙏🏽✝️🛐🛐
when jj passes , he will be missed , he will always be agoat on my eyes.
Calfreezy's take here is awful, I also get KSI was missing the point but just in general Calfreezy seems depressed.. and I think he needs some help, this sounded really sad.
Also ending the finale with ''are their any goats that are short kings?'' really?
Before you do take that into account, think to yourself what does ''goat'' really mean? I don't personally think it applies, but if we're discussing it on the level of KSI becoming the goat, then anyone of these people below are practically more famous and have developed a similar if not stronger legacy, so they too clarify as ''goat'' status in their profession/life/legacy.
Bruce Lee was 5'7
Chuck Norris is 5'8
Michael Jackson was 5'8
Eminem is 5'7
James Dean is still spoken about today and he was 5'7
Tom Holland is more popular than anyone at that table and he's 5'6
Prince created a hell of a legacy and he's 5'2
Ed Sheeran is 5'7
Tom Cruise is 5'7
Johnny Depp is 5'8
Marlon Brando was 5'8
John Lennon was 5'9
David Bowie was 5'9
Martin Luther King was 5'6
Floyd Mayweather is 5'6
Mike Tyson is 5'10
Conor McGregor is 5'8
Jesus Christ was apparently 5'1 - 5'5
Khabib is 5'8
Justin Bieber is 5'7
Zac Efron is 5'8
Al Pacino is 5'7
Sylvester Stallone is 5'8
Robin Williams was 5'7
Kanye West is 5'7
George Lucas is 5'5 and probably created something that'll be expanded/spoken about for 100's of years
Steven Spielberg is 5'8
Gandhi was 5'3
Martin Scorcese is 5'3
J.R.R. Tolkien was 5’5”
Che Guevara was 5'8
Leonardo Da Vinci was 5'7
Angus Young is 5'2
Pablo Picasso was 5'4
Vincent Van Gogh was 5'6
William Shakespeare was 5'6
Axl Rose is 5'8
Paul McCartney is 5'9
Bob Marley was 5'7
Bob Dylan is 5'5
Charlie Chaplin was 5'4
RDJ is 5'7
Jeff Bezos is 5'8
Lionel Messi is 5'7
Rey Mysterio is 5'2
KSI's hero's like Lil Wayne and Bruno Mars are both 5'4
The list goes on and on.
Also reminder, KSI is 5'10. Hell it's just a diss towards their friends too considering Tobi, Ethan and Vikk are all below 5'8.
@cato the younger It depends what you're referring to as goat status. This is in discussion to KSI referring to himself being a goat, so on that topic just about every A-List actor can be a goat, just about any historical figure is a goat, and even a popular musician can be a goat. My personal variations of GOAT are non existent, I believe there are people with strong legacies. But to classify KSI as a goat is classifying any of those people on that list as GOAT's.
If we're discussing GOAT's, we're talking about the greatest of all time in their specific category. For example the best wrestler of all time? AJ Styles and he's 5'8. If we're talking about the best actors of all time then we'd say Marlon Brando who's 5'8.. today? Tom Cruise who's 5'7.
We're talking about music? Well let's start with rap. Eminem is 5'7, let's move on to Rock music, the singer of ACDC Angus Young is 5'2, Johnny Rotten of the Sex Pistols is 5'8, Axl Rose is 5'8. We're talking about pop? Prince is 5'2, Bruno Mars is 5'4, Justin Bieber is 5'7, Michael Jackson was 5'8, Freddie Mercury was 5'8, Paul McCartney is 5'9, John Lennon and David Bowie were both 5'9. These lists can go on, you can certainly be goat status whatever that means if you're below 5'9.
Edit: what do you consider a 'goat'?
@cato the younger That's the thing. KSI isn't Goat Status yet, but when you think of UA-cam.. he's a GOAT. Always will be. He's not a goat in music or boxing yet, but we can see the longevity of that and what he delivers. I think picking fields is important, but you get some people like Jared Leto who are goats in music and goats in acting and goats in lifestyle, that they just accomplish it all.
@cato the younger I think my list is semi-accurate, some on there will be goats for a very long time. I can imagine with the way Mainstream Media is currently, the likes of Bruce Lee will still be spoken about 200 years from now. Legends build up. All it takes is one movie in the future reminiscing about Bruce Lee and his Martial Art skills, and boom... you've got him remembered for another 100 years.
@cato the younger That's true, but if you look at my previous comment, I presumed you said my list was laughable, but I think most on my list are definitely more worthy of GOAT.
On terms of being a UA-camr, he's A GOAT. Will influencer boxing become the norm? If so, history wise, him and Joe Weller will have a legacy, but not be ''goats''.
but eventually everyone on your list will be forgotten too, everyone and everyone, it make take 100 years it may take 100,000 years but eventually no one will recognise these names
cal just looks at it all as money, what brings in more or gives you more. ksi does the things he wants for his purposes
I agree with KSI when you achieve your life’s goal you are empty and depressed. But if you can never achieve your goal you will have fun trying to achieve it
KSI and Calfreezys way of thinking is exactly why KSI is where he is and Cal is where he is
Cal is a leech giraffe
both are correct in the sense that Cal is correct in the fact that unless your contribution to society is monumental, you will be forgotten and therefore there is a lack of meaning in trying to develop a legacy however JJ is correct in the fact that his legacy is purely based on being an inspiration to people.
so realistically, the debate is based on your view and description of the word ‘legacy’
JJ mentality is to prove something can be done even he achieved it he will always want next thing that he can be on next level…cal right now is at the point he think he doesn’t need to thrive for more achievemens because he in the comfort place…jj is type of person he want to prove and bring others
I can't find this podcast on spotify
Legacy is leaving a footprint on this earth 🌎
I resonate with KSI 1000%
To me legacy is in raising my future children properly because if I die they will continue my legacy in the sense that if they do a good deed that ultimately counts towards me because I am the one who raised them.
and that Idea is planted in my head because of my religion Islam and in Isalm if you tought your children to give back to the world that ultimately counts as a deed to you because you are the one who taught them which I fully I agree with and I personally don't see legacy in any other way
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In Internet personalities and in UA-cam, JJ will definitely have a legacy, he's done it for over 10 years and will keep on going.
You think people 100 years from now will remember a youtuber? Maybe mr beast because he has made an actual change in the world. People nowadays can’t name many people who changed the world 100 years ago.
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This is two different ends of a spectrum, one successful content creator whom entertains, influences and motivates people, while also making a difference in the world and wants to leave a mark. And one whom is is a content creator that is just ok with what he has and has no ambitions to change the world. This separates the truly successful and the average joe, in any industry.
JJ isn't really talking about legacy, he's just talking about self improvement to the point of people knowing who he is. Lets be honest, his death will trend on social media for a week, and then whenever the anniversary comes up. True legacy is doing something that changes the world, either by implimenting something physical or changing minds i.e Steve jobs with apple or MLK with his movement.
He is an inspirational human being but there are thousands of other people like him
Journey of creating legacy is incomparable to anything else.
To be fair the inspiration legacy that JJ would leave behind would realistically more achievable than what Einstein left us. We can never be another Einstein.. but we can always work hard to be like JJ. You don't teach genius.. but you can learn to be become better at anything.
Classic nihilist vs optimist. It's usually always a stalemate
I just said this under another comment lmao. Beta Nihilist Cal vs Chad Absurdist JJ
anyone else realising the stevie logo on the chalkboard in the background
Legacy is a inspiration to other. Legacy is meeningful to so many people, how can someone not see that?
The only legacy that matters is who you are as a person, your deeds. This fame ain’t anything if your deeds were nothing. This life is just the beginning. Alhamdulillah
Video is not working and whats the name of the episode
You can build a legacy within the people around you, you don't need to be rich or famous.
Acts of kindness make you memorable to the people in your day to day lives.
If you base your legacy around your ego as KSI has, you will never be able to feel truly satisfied.
Can anyone explain me this i can't get the video on spotify
The journey is the dream - Kobe Bryant
Life is a story book you write, you are writing your own story. Be who you want to be . Both perspectives are their own , so everyone out there whose gonna read this comment, make your life freaking awesome .
nah jj gonna be a part of our lives forever his name will easily live on longer than him
depends on the person really, K.S.I has accomplished a lot and already will have a legacy as he inspired countless UA-camrs and Cals pretty much the opposite he is not well known outside he's circle (fans and friends) as for K.S.I he is known internationally, what I'm trying to say is Cal hasn't done anything that will be remembered so he doesn't really care as much but as for K.S.I, hes already walking down a path that will gain him a great legacy
lit ep.
It ain’t about what’s waiting on the other side, it’s the climb
Knowledge regained
Legacy is what you make of this life so it does matter alot
8:42 chip is so fucking funny christ
Is the full thing coming too youtube 🤔
No it’s only on spotify
Nah,just Clips but you can watch the full video on Spotify
What episode is this