He's a test for a 5* down the line highly dought he will be buffed I think for a 4* his kits fine and needs a team that complements him unlike alot of 5* that can function well in alot of teams but go to the moon with good supports
Given that this is Moze's preliminary kit and not final, it looks like the devs were trying to do with him what they originally wanted with Acheron. Essentially having a character on your team that doesnt exist on your action bar, but takes action when conditions are met. However, this concept doesnt suit DPS characters unless the pay off is explosive, and based of this preliminary kit, things are not looking up for Moze. I'll be looking forward to seeing his final changes.
7 charge is too much imo, a Hunt character is meant to attack fast and hard. I think nerfing the FUA damage but giving him 3 charges would be more viable. Considering you need supports or sustainers in a lot of content so you won't be launching many attacks.
March can deal more dmg than him as rn, he could just get extra stacks if Prey get targeted by FuA from allies, and the AF becomes 100% instead of 30/60
Nah.. Lowering his FUA dmg just makes him worse.. As of now, he prefers character that do lots of action.. With Ratio, he can get 5 stacks just from him.. Skill FUA ult FUA FUA That's fast enough.. Instead of that.. Makes him do big dmg once he reach the stack.. Aka increase his dmg to give bigger payoff..
@kwaakwoo tbf they might've screwed themselves unless they buff lingsha before release. She's not much better than gallagher and is way more sp intensive.
@@ChangeOfHearts39 Boothill. Extremely underrated it seems. Also, Argenti is pretty (VERY) good in PF just not very much anywhere else, but I still use him.
honestly i HATE 4 star characters that are only good after you get eidolons. everybody always says "no but getting 4 star eidolons is sm easier" but only very few ppl pull on banners for 4 stars. and the more characters added, less the chances of getting them in banners that dont feature them.
He seems to be more for counter attackers, I don't know, it Kind of feels Like it. Because disappearing from the Action bar is something Characters Like Blade can benefit from.
4:56 It's something i keep searching without finding an answer: when an unit has in their kit that the ultimate is considered (in this case for both Moze and Feixiao) a follow-up attack, does this mean that it cannot receive damage buff from things that boost "ultimate damage", right? Basically i was searching if Jiaoqiu (that let the enemies take more ultimate damage from the allies) could work with Feixiao, but i read everywhere a lot of people saying that he works with her and a lot of people that are saying that he doesn't work. Witch is the right answer?
Their ult counts as ultimate damage AND follow up damage. They will be buffed by both. But if the source buffs both (like salsotto) it will only buff once.
No, the Ultimate will receive buffs from both sources. Just as Yunli's Counters receive buffs for both FuA and Ultimate. And just to make sure you don't ask later, no, you don't get a double buff from Salsotto.
Him being assassin even in combat is just very good. But if there are things I would like to buff is, make his dmg more considering he's gonna disappear once you use his skill. Then, once he leaves his departed state, just give him 100% action advance, Hoyo. This way, he can be consistent in applying Prey. Considering him being a gacha 4* that seems way similar to March. I feel like they should buff him just to make it worth to get him E6.
Tbh.. Here's my thought (it's a long one) 1. The number of stacks is fine, cuz if you put him in teams with lots of action (fua team), like ratio, topaz, aventurine, etc, that charge can stack quickly 2. His numbers are the only thing that needs to be buff, since he has low quantity of attacks especially with him disappearing, just makes hin do more dmg from stacking to make it a better pay off.. 3. Instead of Feixiao team, he is more suited towards Ratio team, as Ratio alone can fill 5 of his stack.. Ratio: Skill - fua - Ult - fua - fua 4. He is more like a mix of topaz and hunt march.. He does debuff like topaz, but need stacks like march.. Hence where the "mini" Topaz came from.. It is mostly a replacement on Ratio team.. As for me, i still want him nonetheless cuz i want to make a full male Ratio team.. Ratio - Aventurine - Moze - Jiaoqiu (or any other male nihility / harmony)
@@literallyjiaoqiu i write that in hoping there's more in the future.. as of now, im using break welt.. great for survivability, but lacking in actual debuff that amplify dmg.. we will get Jiaoqiu, and there's rumor going around that sunday will be harmony.. and screwllum might be nihility with how much nihility LC he has..
@@GReyn Not only is just having more FUA damage not really a net positive. (What he really needs is more frequent follow ups) as spill over damage is going to be much worse for runs. But every character that can realistically get him stacks just isn’t obtainable for a newer player. If you have topaz you have ratio and or are pulling feixiao instant reason not to use him. And if you didn’t play during ratio patches you have no characters that can farm him stacks that isn’t premium. March 7th (A free unit E0-E6) is just a better unit. His kit is just a more sloppy version of hers. You’re 100% lost in the sauce on this one. I’ll be honest like it’s fine to see the good in things but march 7th exists to make his kit just that much worse. The best thing for him right now is a lowered required stack count like bare minimum 4
Currently I don't see much reason to invest in him when hunt March 7th exists. She can do what he does but better and also deal an insane amount of damage while also ignoring weakness types and apply some crazy buffs to her Shifu with her A6. As also mentioned she and her eidolons are free as well so you can very easily invest in her without much drawback. In order for Moze to even compete with March he has to at least lower stacks and better damage multipliers, otherwise even Fexiao teams would much prefer March or Topaz as easier ways to proc her ult while also having a strong sub dps as a support.
Idk about him being a bad unit. Sounds like he has the luxury to lengthen the duration of buffs applied to him and can use them in his FUA. He could also reduce the party size temporarily; making counter characters stronger without investing in lightcones that increase agro. He could even be used with yakong; letting other characters you want to receive her buff without worrying about their speed.
He has a negative synergy with Aventurine as there's less allies on the battlefield. He might be good for yunli/clara to increase their chance of getting attacked tho
I’m personally gonna use him as a buff for feixiao - while I’m praying for a buff for his own kit I’m still gonna play him because the increased fua damage and crit damage on prey is just SO HELPFUL for me, who doesn’t have rm and who wants to use march with ratio on the other side. (Please buff him though hoyo)
7:02 if I were to build moze, then I would give him 4pc band of sizzling thunder instead of 2pc pioneer/2pc atk set because the 20% atk buff has basically permanent uptime (if he cant take turns, the buff cant go away)
So the way i see him currently is roughly budget Topaz? Like you stick him in a team with clara or Yunli, Robin, and whatever sustain FUA is using im just gonna say Fu Xuan for the damage mitigation or Adventurine on Yunli/Clara, with Moze being another FUA source/buff for bosses as well as giving more crit damage to his team, though he definitely needs his stacks reduced to like 5 with the 60% action forward reduced to 3 though that would probably require playtesting to confirm since he might get enough stacks with all the FUA? thats my take anyways
Only other thing I can think of would be for him to keep maximum 7 stacks and make it so he ALWAYS does the FUA from ult but every time an ally hits the enemy it increases the FUA damage by say 20% or something so it's like the assassin executing the target after his allies have it distracted enough and the action advance is increased based on how many stacks the target had when the FUA is used with his extra damage on hit being random shurikens sent before his big sneak attack
His skill should just act like March and he targets an ally. Making them deal 100% of his basic attack DMG each time they attack (maybe add 25% DMG increase for the ally or lightning toughness breaking would be good too) and he disappears from the field for maybe 2-3 of that ally turns His FuA should be like LL or Numby where he would disappear from the battlefield but he'd be considered a "summon" that has his base SPD. Whenever the target ally attacks an enemy his talent will advance forward by like 25% maybe 50%. His FuA multipliers can still be 200% if this is the case. His ult can stay the same. Maybe in one of his Eidolons his ult can be like Lingsha's where he advance forward his summon by 100% (basically a free FuA) And his A2 passive should just be his skill doesn't consume SP or something at least by that he'd be truly SP neutral and like an assassin he isn't present in the battlefield but still contributes to the battle. I don't think he would be OP with these changes but he'd be comparable to March 7th hunt in terms of ease of use or reliability and still has his own unique gimmick
Some things to note-- Atleast my plans for him involves replace robin in the team comp. I'm pretty sure his output would flourish with Aventurine, Moze, Topaz, March (Hunt) He would mark and Topaz+March would speed stack him to trigger FUA, what we should be comparing is the overall damage per turn he's outputting VS Robin As far as the whole SP negative thing, Topaz+March usually always has perma capped SP when i run them, march only needs 1 sp, otherwise she's granting SP, and topaz uses the one that the sustain unit is funding. So this will finally dip the comp's SP below perma-max, but not so much that they're hitting 0 SP, a great addition to the team (assuming he outputs more benefits than Robin)
Not to mention he's a hunt character, so taking that planar set that says "When you're matching paths, grant Crit Rate and Atk" is a lot of bundle of free stats for him, topaz or march if they so choose to also wear the set
V3 he just received a massive update, changing how his kit works, now i'm nearly 100% certain he's replacing robin on the team, he now gains 9 stacks with skills and as they count down(with ally attacks), every 3 stacks consumed , he launches a follow up atk-- and his Trace 3 was updated to now have his ult counts as a Follow Up Attack (while also increases the marked target's damage taken by FUA's by 25%)-- meaning it'll now be boosted by Topaz's and his Trace3
I mean, just because he is a 4-star doesn't mean he will be bad. Look at Gallagher and March 7th (Hunt) right now. Even Pella is valuable. Still, this kit seems like it needs something more...
A good one that makes him BIS for feixao is every 2 attacks he launches a follow up 100% of attack like a kunai or throwing dagger. Meaning he does 4 followups every skill. When you have more attacks on that target the more attacks moze will do. Making it almost as good as march. (March gives speed aswell as a good base speed.)
How I would buff him. Make him like a poor man’s topaz by having the pray being 25% vulnerable to follow up attack (or 15%). Then also have the Extra damage from the pray status count as follow up attack damage
Xueyi ran a little too hard, so now they have to break Moze's legs. I still think he will find a niche use in certain follow up teams with Topaz/Ratio with E1, because Prey counts as a debuff and increase FUA DMG. No Xueyi or QQ since his FUA requires so many stacks and seems to stack quite slow unless you are running Topaz/Ratio... Even then, Harmony units are so strong even at 4 star level that it is hard to justify using him over someone like Tingyun or even Asta who can boost Topaz damage quite a bit.
i guess he only servers as somewhat of a sub dps follow up suppor for Feixia so she get her stacks more easily, but still far from being an amazing unit, i hope they release another follow up sustain and support like aventurine or robin so i can use my Xianzhou Luofu units in a team and not having to mix them up with Penacony / IPC units
they just put so many unnecessary handicaps. why is FuA sp generation limited to once per turn? getting two full stacks of 7 before moze takes action is basically impossible without E6, so that limitation exists ONLY to make his E6 worse. why does he need 7 charges to trigger FuA? like holy jesus that is a ridiculous number to hit for such mediocre total damage. not to mention he straight up LEAVES EXISTENCE until you trigger FuA so he can't even generate sp or contribute to his own FuA stacks with basic attack.
I know right.. Topaz & Yunli, Topaz & Jade, Topaz & Ratio, she's going good with almost half the releases this year so far with more FUA to go she might even be good with Topaz & Feixiao , of course the last 2 slots varying but with Robin&Aventurine(and soon tobe the new FUA healer) usually.
I skip Topaz bcs dislike f piggy. No matter how much I try to push myself. I still hate it. It's still piggy. Not cute. I will go for lingsha bcs she summon rabbit. Regardless ppl said she is mid and lazy design. I wish to get Moze as well. If he is f2p friendly. Simple bcs I like anyone hide in a cloak just like an assassin. I don't have Seele as well. So this Moze is cool to me. Even as 4 star.
They be throwing anything in the 4 star category dawg, generic design, generic personality, and the one interesting thing about him (his kit) turns out to be weak af too, damn.
4 star male nobody. Not a surprise. If there is a hot waifu 5* mommy with break followup crit rate crit dmg advance forward hits per action omfg damage, then she will be good because mihoyo knows you will swipe your wallets. You aren't swiping wallets for a male 4*.
For now until they nerf him like what they did with Jiaoqiu since star rail barely makes decent male characters cause god forbid we have a male character as good as the women.
No, not really for Feixiao. His stack Generation for himself and Acheron is way too low, hes basically missing until he does his follow-up, wich means less stacks. March 7th E6 will be better for her
Another male character that is completely dogsh*t? Who would have guessed? I‘m so shocked. But for real, even before we got a look at his moveset, I said „I wouldn’t be surprised if they make him bad as well“ and would you look at that. Also, this isn‘t to hate on male characters but on hoyo for this blatant inequality in their design philosophy when it comes to male and female characters.
@@amayouyou8306 it is that big a deal. Not everyone plays the story first day of patch. People have shit to do and dont wanna be spoiled when they watch content that is completely unrelated to main story.
Why they are making every character who's has a good animation, they give those character has the bad kit or bad at making good damage like meta character.. I don't understand why hoyo did that, its disappointing
i hope they buff him and make his stack generation more easy, he's such a cool character, it would be a waste to not make him at least good.
He's a test for a 5* down the line highly dought he will be buffed I think for a 4* his kits fine and needs a team that complements him unlike alot of 5* that can function well in alot of teams but go to the moon with good supports
@lazarious5424 yeeeeep that's exactly what happened to gallagher
Maybe one of his eidolons would make stacking easier, just like Xueyi if I remember correctly
Instructions unclear. Moze now gains 1 stack every 2 attacks, just like Feixiao.
he is a man, quite unlikely
What he needs is 100 percent action advance after his fua. So he can always be gettinh stacks. And a lowered stack count to 5
Given that this is Moze's preliminary kit and not final, it looks like the devs were trying to do with him what they originally wanted with Acheron. Essentially having a character on your team that doesnt exist on your action bar, but takes action when conditions are met. However, this concept doesnt suit DPS characters unless the pay off is explosive, and based of this preliminary kit, things are not looking up for Moze. I'll be looking forward to seeing his final changes.
7 charge is too much imo, a Hunt character is meant to attack fast and hard. I think nerfing the FUA damage but giving him 3 charges would be more viable. Considering you need supports or sustainers in a lot of content so you won't be launching many attacks.
He likes edging enemies
Well suprisingli fei march moze team 0cycles 😂
@kitsuchii6809
Fei 0 cycle not thanks to Moze, but in spite of him, bruh.
March can deal more dmg than him as rn, he could just get extra stacks if Prey get targeted by FuA from allies, and the AF becomes 100% instead of 30/60
Nah.. Lowering his FUA dmg just makes him worse..
As of now, he prefers character that do lots of action..
With Ratio, he can get 5 stacks just from him..
Skill FUA ult FUA FUA
That's fast enough..
Instead of that.. Makes him do big dmg once he reach the stack.. Aka increase his dmg to give bigger payoff..
PLEASE JUST MAKE A MALE BE GOOD THAT ISN'T IMAGINARY OR PHYSICAL PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE HOYO
More like please make a male be good that isn't a sustainer (Gallagher and Aventurine are both OP)
@@ggmaliki now they be trying to powercreep Gallagher 😭😭
@kwaakwoo tbf they might've screwed themselves unless they buff lingsha before release. She's not much better than gallagher and is way more sp intensive.
what physical character is strong? I know you aint talking about argenti xD
@@ChangeOfHearts39 Boothill. Extremely underrated it seems. Also, Argenti is pretty (VERY) good in PF just not very much anywhere else, but I still use him.
His video aged well because he thankfully got buffed yesterday. Would love to see another updated video (so glad they fixed him for once)
honestly i HATE 4 star characters that are only good after you get eidolons. everybody always says "no but getting 4 star eidolons is sm easier" but only very few ppl pull on banners for 4 stars. and the more characters added, less the chances of getting them in banners that dont feature them.
The buff he might need is a 100% advance forward when leaving the departed state so that he can apply his prey debuff again
He seems to be more for counter attackers, I don't know, it Kind of feels Like it. Because disappearing from the Action bar is something Characters Like Blade can benefit from.
Well this lasted a good 3 days with the new changes to his kit :))
4:56 It's something i keep searching without finding an answer: when an unit has in their kit that the ultimate is considered (in this case for both Moze and Feixiao) a follow-up attack, does this mean that it cannot receive damage buff from things that boost "ultimate damage", right?
Basically i was searching if Jiaoqiu (that let the enemies take more ultimate damage from the allies) could work with Feixiao, but i read everywhere a lot of people saying that he works with her and a lot of people that are saying that he doesn't work.
Witch is the right answer?
Their ult counts as ultimate damage AND follow up damage. They will be buffed by both. But if the source buffs both (like salsotto) it will only buff once.
No, the Ultimate will receive buffs from both sources. Just as Yunli's Counters receive buffs for both FuA and Ultimate. And just to make sure you don't ask later, no, you don't get a double buff from Salsotto.
@@vitorjjgameplays5786 Thanks a lot guys :)
Him being assassin even in combat is just very good. But if there are things I would like to buff is, make his dmg more considering he's gonna disappear once you use his skill.
Then, once he leaves his departed state, just give him 100% action advance, Hoyo. This way, he can be consistent in applying Prey.
Considering him being a gacha 4* that seems way similar to March. I feel like they should buff him just to make it worth to get him E6.
He would be cool if March didn’t exist she’s literally him but better in just about every possible aspect lol…
it's really disappointing, considering March 7th is a free character, and this guy is a gacha one. Makes you question how Hoyoverse's brain works.
@@justin_gonzaga ya they need to buff his support a bit I think otherwise march is gonna just overshadow bro.
Tbh.. Here's my thought (it's a long one)
1. The number of stacks is fine, cuz if you put him in teams with lots of action (fua team), like ratio, topaz, aventurine, etc, that charge can stack quickly
2. His numbers are the only thing that needs to be buff, since he has low quantity of attacks especially with him disappearing, just makes hin do more dmg from stacking to make it a better pay off..
3. Instead of Feixiao team, he is more suited towards Ratio team, as Ratio alone can fill 5 of his stack..
Ratio: Skill - fua - Ult - fua - fua
4. He is more like a mix of topaz and hunt march.. He does debuff like topaz, but need stacks like march.. Hence where the "mini" Topaz came from.. It is mostly a replacement on Ratio team..
As for me, i still want him nonetheless cuz i want to make a full male Ratio team..
Ratio - Aventurine - Moze - Jiaoqiu (or any other male nihility / harmony)
i love the "other male nihility/harmony" cuz theres almost none, welt and sampo arent harmony-like supports and theres no male harmony
@@literallyjiaoqiu i write that in hoping there's more in the future..
as of now, im using break welt.. great for survivability, but lacking in actual debuff that amplify dmg..
we will get Jiaoqiu, and there's rumor going around that sunday will be harmony.. and screwllum might be nihility with how much nihility LC he has..
@@GReyn Not only is just having more FUA damage not really a net positive. (What he really needs is more frequent follow ups) as spill over damage is going to be much worse for runs.
But every character that can realistically get him stacks just isn’t obtainable for a newer player.
If you have topaz you have ratio and or are pulling feixiao instant reason not to use him. And if you didn’t play during ratio patches you have no characters that can farm him stacks that isn’t premium.
March 7th (A free unit E0-E6) is just a better unit. His kit is just a more sloppy version of hers.
You’re 100% lost in the sauce on this one. I’ll be honest like it’s fine to see the good in things but march 7th exists to make his kit just that much worse. The best thing for him right now is a lowered required stack count like bare minimum 4
Currently I don't see much reason to invest in him when hunt March 7th exists. She can do what he does but better and also deal an insane amount of damage while also ignoring weakness types and apply some crazy buffs to her Shifu with her A6.
As also mentioned she and her eidolons are free as well so you can very easily invest in her without much drawback. In order for Moze to even compete with March he has to at least lower stacks and better damage multipliers, otherwise even Fexiao teams would much prefer March or Topaz as easier ways to proc her ult while also having a strong sub dps as a support.
Idk about him being a bad unit. Sounds like he has the luxury to lengthen the duration of buffs applied to him and can use them in his FUA. He could also reduce the party size temporarily; making counter characters stronger without investing in lightcones that increase agro. He could even be used with yakong; letting other characters you want to receive her buff without worrying about their speed.
I hope they buff him cuz I rly need a good lighting character
He has a negative synergy with Aventurine as there's less allies on the battlefield. He might be good for yunli/clara to increase their chance of getting attacked tho
I’m personally gonna use him as a buff for feixiao - while I’m praying for a buff for his own kit I’m still gonna play him because the increased fua damage and crit damage on prey is just SO HELPFUL for me, who doesn’t have rm and who wants to use march with ratio on the other side.
(Please buff him though hoyo)
7:02 if I were to build moze, then I would give him 4pc band of sizzling thunder instead of 2pc pioneer/2pc atk set because the 20% atk buff has basically permanent uptime (if he cant take turns, the buff cant go away)
The idea behind his kit is cool but his dmg is so low!
They apparently buffed Moze in v3.
V3 is already out and he got major buffs. like damn this video didnt last long haha
So the way i see him currently is roughly budget Topaz? Like you stick him in a team with clara or Yunli, Robin, and whatever sustain FUA is using im just gonna say Fu Xuan for the damage mitigation or Adventurine on Yunli/Clara, with Moze being another FUA source/buff for bosses as well as giving more crit damage to his team, though he definitely needs his stacks reduced to like 5 with the 60% action forward reduced to 3 though that would probably require playtesting to confirm since he might get enough stacks with all the FUA? thats my take anyways
Only other thing I can think of would be for him to keep maximum 7 stacks and make it so he ALWAYS does the FUA from ult but every time an ally hits the enemy it increases the FUA damage by say 20% or something so it's like the assassin executing the target after his allies have it distracted enough and the action advance is increased based on how many stacks the target had when the FUA is used with his extra damage on hit being random shurikens sent before his big sneak attack
His skill should just act like March and he targets an ally. Making them deal 100% of his basic attack DMG each time they attack (maybe add 25% DMG increase for the ally or lightning toughness breaking would be good too) and he disappears from the field for maybe 2-3 of that ally turns
His FuA should be like LL or Numby where he would disappear from the battlefield but he'd be considered a "summon" that has his base SPD. Whenever the target ally attacks an enemy his talent will advance forward by like 25% maybe 50%. His FuA multipliers can still be 200% if this is the case.
His ult can stay the same. Maybe in one of his Eidolons his ult can be like Lingsha's where he advance forward his summon by 100% (basically a free FuA)
And his A2 passive should just be his skill doesn't consume SP or something at least by that he'd be truly SP neutral and like an assassin he isn't present in the battlefield but still contributes to the battle.
I don't think he would be OP with these changes but he'd be comparable to March 7th hunt in terms of ease of use or reliability and still has his own unique gimmick
Some things to note-- Atleast my plans for him involves replace robin in the team comp.
I'm pretty sure his output would flourish with Aventurine, Moze, Topaz, March (Hunt)
He would mark and Topaz+March would speed stack him to trigger FUA, what we should be comparing is the overall damage per turn he's outputting VS Robin
As far as the whole SP negative thing, Topaz+March usually always has perma capped SP when i run them, march only needs 1 sp, otherwise she's granting SP, and topaz uses the one that the sustain unit is funding.
So this will finally dip the comp's SP below perma-max, but not so much that they're hitting 0 SP, a great addition to the team (assuming he outputs more benefits than Robin)
Not to mention he's a hunt character, so taking that planar set that says "When you're matching paths, grant Crit Rate and Atk" is a lot of bundle of free stats for him, topaz or march if they so choose to also wear the set
V3 he just received a massive update, changing how his kit works, now i'm nearly 100% certain he's replacing robin on the team, he now gains 9 stacks with skills and as they count down(with ally attacks), every 3 stacks consumed , he launches a follow up atk-- and his Trace 3 was updated to now have his ult counts as a Follow Up Attack (while also increases the marked target's damage taken by FUA's by 25%)-- meaning it'll now be boosted by Topaz's and his Trace3
Hoyo pls buff my boy Moze 😭😭😭
Based on this kit I think he'll be more of an "Boss support"
this video aged like milk :P, they changed how he works in latest version of beta
I mean, just because he is a 4-star doesn't mean he will be bad. Look at Gallagher and March 7th (Hunt) right now. Even Pella is valuable. Still, this kit seems like it needs something more...
True but you listing 4 star support vs DPS . All 4 star support is good in their on way . But 4 star DPS ( mostly ) quickly get powercreep .
@@Waifu_Impact_Cunny_Archive Fair
M7 hunt is ok. More useful than Tingyun.
A good one that makes him BIS for feixao is every 2 attacks he launches a follow up 100% of attack like a kunai or throwing dagger.
Meaning he does 4 followups every skill.
When you have more attacks on that target the more attacks moze will do.
Making it almost as good as march. (March gives speed aswell as a good base speed.)
too bad rhats not how he works
@@literallyjiaoqiu YO BRO COME BACK, V3 MOZE IS ALMOST JUST LIKE THIS.
How I would buff him. Make him like a poor man’s topaz by having the pray being 25% vulnerable to follow up attack (or 15%). Then also have the Extra damage from the pray status count as follow up attack damage
Xueyi ran a little too hard, so now they have to break Moze's legs. I still think he will find a niche use in certain follow up teams with Topaz/Ratio with E1, because Prey counts as a debuff and increase FUA DMG. No Xueyi or QQ since his FUA requires so many stacks and seems to stack quite slow unless you are running Topaz/Ratio... Even then, Harmony units are so strong even at 4 star level that it is hard to justify using him over someone like Tingyun or even Asta who can boost Topaz damage quite a bit.
FIRST YOU MAKE HIM A 4*. AND NOW UR TELLING ME HES A BAD UNIT? aint no way im still maining him bro has the best design
is moze's additional dmg from skill counted as a follow up or similar to the one from ting yun
Like tingyun and robin
i guess he only servers as somewhat of a sub dps follow up suppor for Feixia so she get her stacks more easily, but still far from being an amazing unit, i hope they release another follow up sustain and support like aventurine or robin so i can use my Xianzhou Luofu units in a team and not having to mix them up with Penacony / IPC units
he is sp negative so they need to give him a lot of dmg to cover up for it
Now i just use moze for follow up team (cause march feel strange for me)
Aged Like Milk Lmao, but I think we're all glad he got improved!!
Dw guys this is v1 im sure hoyo will buff him
i would make final judgements like v3+
General's Assassin losing to goofy ahh swordgirl
Too bad he’s well designed to be just well trashed honestly
they just put so many unnecessary handicaps. why is FuA sp generation limited to once per turn? getting two full stacks of 7 before moze takes action is basically impossible without E6, so that limitation exists ONLY to make his E6 worse. why does he need 7 charges to trigger FuA? like holy jesus that is a ridiculous number to hit for such mediocre total damage. not to mention he straight up LEAVES EXISTENCE until you trigger FuA so he can't even generate sp or contribute to his own FuA stacks with basic attack.
If you use him Solo and u skill...
Do you lose the battle?
Does it count as fleeing?
You can't use his Skill if there are no active allies in the battle.
@@vitorjjgameplays5786 That makes sense
A bit boring tho
So what I’m hearing is improve crit and speed
Hoyo is trying to not create another Tingyun or Gallagher, but at the same time makes a 4 star equivalent to a 3star. WTF 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
He's cooked and I doubt they even change him at all
after the VA controversy, hoyo purposely nerfed the character to the ground
Poverty Topaz for people who keep skipping Topaz yet somehow want to play FUA teams. EZ skip.
I know right.. Topaz & Yunli, Topaz & Jade, Topaz & Ratio, she's going good with almost half the releases this year so far with more FUA to go she might even be good with Topaz & Feixiao , of course the last 2 slots varying but with Robin&Aventurine(and soon tobe the new FUA healer) usually.
Good that he’s a poor man’s topaz - I’m not pulling her.
If you least try to play/watch some of the new story, you know his name is pronounced "Moz-za"
I skip Topaz bcs dislike f piggy. No matter how much I try to push myself. I still hate it. It's still piggy. Not cute. I will go for lingsha bcs she summon rabbit. Regardless ppl said she is mid and lazy design. I wish to get Moze as well. If he is f2p friendly. Simple bcs I like anyone hide in a cloak just like an assassin. I don't have Seele as well. So this Moze is cool to me. Even as 4 star.
Yeah, he's kinda lame but his gameplay is cool for a 4*. Wish they buff him more to br a top contender 4* dps like March Hunt of Qingque.
They be throwing anything in the 4 star category dawg, generic design, generic personality, and the one interesting thing about him (his kit) turns out to be weak af too, damn.
They better nerf my moze 😠
What did we expect? It's a 4 star.
4 star male nobody. Not a surprise. If there is a hot waifu 5* mommy with break followup crit rate crit dmg advance forward hits per action omfg damage, then she will be good because mihoyo knows you will swipe your wallets. You aren't swiping wallets for a male 4*.
You living under a rock, cause they already buffed him.
apparently, Moze e6 is better than Topaz e0s0
For now until they nerf him like what they did with Jiaoqiu since star rail barely makes decent male characters cause god forbid we have a male character as good as the women.
No, not really for Feixiao. His stack Generation for himself and Acheron is way too low, hes basically missing until he does his follow-up, wich means less stacks.
March 7th E6 will be better for her
nah no way, maybe he has higher screenshot dmg, but overall topaz stack generation is faster and is less clunky as well.
@@DarkSeraph... Aventurine?
That sucks. Even March is better, no?
Another male character that is completely dogsh*t? Who would have guessed? I‘m so shocked. But for real, even before we got a look at his moveset, I said „I wouldn’t be surprised if they make him bad as well“ and would you look at that.
Also, this isn‘t to hate on male characters but on hoyo for this blatant inequality in their design philosophy when it comes to male and female characters.
Worst? Look like you dont have alan😂
For all content creators: DO NOT put new story cutscenes in your theorycrafting videos.
What
@@nyes4596Main story cutscenes from the current patch. Don't use them. Is that too much to ask
@@OgZz73 yes
it's been at least a week and a half, it shouldn't be that big a deal honestly
@@amayouyou8306 it is that big a deal. Not everyone plays the story first day of patch. People have shit to do and dont wanna be spoiled when they watch content that is completely unrelated to main story.
I absolutely do NOT care about his kit his animations and design r so sick i NEED him
Why they are making every character who's has a good animation, they give those character has the bad kit or bad at making good damage like meta character.. I don't understand why hoyo did that, its disappointing
First
His E6 is super Good.
Trash
it´s always the male characters that hoyo makes weak it sucks, wanted to make a male only follow-up team
Huh?