Robert Millar. I”m Spanish and he was my favourite, even over Pedro Delgado. I vividly remember I recorded this stage on VHS and watched it again and again. I admire him for his brave decision to change his life the way he really wanted, just as brave as a person as an athlete.
The year that crystallized my love of the exotic cycling legends and incredible backdrops , so lovely to see this again I remember Phil's commentary word for word after seeing it on world of sport all those years ago fab Robert ( him and Sean Kelly were my favourites!) Cheers lads !
Millar. Total legend. Anyone who wants to say otherwise can do so once they've gone and won king of the mountains, the dauphine libre, and won the green jersey at the giro. Anyone? No? Better shut your mouth then.
En este TOUR DE FRANCIA de 1984... LUCHO HERRERA siendo su primera participacion en esta carrera como neoprofesional realizo una gran presentacion quedo segundo en esta etapa 11 y tambien ocupo el segundo lugar en la cronoescalada de la etapa 16 detras del ganador Laurent Fignon... al dia siguiente en la etapa 17 para LUCHO seria su mayor VICTORIA ganando en el mitico puerto alpino del ALPE D' HUEZ por encima de los dos mejores de ese tiempo como lo eran Bernard Hinault el numero de esa epoca que ya habia ganado 4 TOUR y Laurent Fignon que venia de ganar el TOUR DE FRANCIA DE 1983 del año anterior.
Great memories of this, I had it on video and would replay it for years. Love the sound mix too! I like it when the commentator has to shout a bit over the crowd.
See how much better it was to have well behaved fans on the side of the road-- no flags, no smoke, no fancy dressed idiots running alongside the riders. Not forgetting the proper bikes, no helmets, no radio contact, simply a man against another man against a mountain. And by the way, life was better in those days too.
En aquella ocasión, Alfonso Flórez, ciclista capitán del equipo colombiano, no permitió que Lucho Herrera partiera junto a Millar, hubiera sido otra etapa para "Lucho", anterior a la gloriosa etapa 17 en ese mismo Tour, Alpe D´Huez
incidentally I have every itv and channel 4 tour from 1984 to 2000 in full, I had them on vhs and transferred them all to dvd before vhs some were betamax..there yu go
@@jayaybe1 after this bastard stole this clip and uploaded it on his channel I decided never to upload any of it again I'm still angry now! Complete bastard this guy he's never acknowledged me on it.what a Low life.
I've never even been on a racing bike in my puff (like many Scots laddies, football was my childhood obsession). But I've watched the TDF on the TV for about 20 years each summer and I can honestly say Robert Millar is my all-time sporting hero. I think the 1989 stage win is my favourite moment in sport ever, though this is fantastic to watch again, too. Thanks for posting. (And good luck to Bradley Wiggins - hopefully he's going to do it).
Me acuerdo de esta etapa termino en Guset Neige , Lucho Herrera el mejor escalador del Mundo llego a 41" de Millar , que habia atacado ante , Lucho salto y le falto poco para alcanzarlo , estos son los Video que tienen que ver los escaladores Colombianos empezando por Nairo para que vea como corria Lucho , partia y no lo veian si no en la Meta
En ese dia Robert Millard atacó desde el comienzo y formó un grupo de punta junto con corredores de otras escuadras como Didier Lucien de Luxemburgo, Gerard Veldsholten de Holanda y Jean Rene Bernadeu de Francia. En el ante penultimo puerto el escoses saltó y se fuè en solitario. Herrera desde atrás ya venía en busca de la punta. En el ultimo puerto Herrera estuvo mas fuerte que Millard y le descontó un montón pero se quedó corto por 42 segundos
Cuando herrera corrio el 1 tour indurain tanbien hizo su debut indurain se retiro todo por el proseso que le hacen al ciclista indurain llego muy lejos
this when I start cycle raceing was 16,! but I only learn to ride a bike when I was 11 year old !! miller was my hero back then !! , cause I was good climber back in the mid 80s, late 90s ! / but am to fat now !!
Robert Millar, immense stuff. Back in the day, when you had to do it all on your own without the pussy team car radios and modern gadgets that have taken all the spontaneity out of the sport. Now it's all so tightly controlled it's as dull as anything.
This was real man's racing, a golden era despite the doping. Another problem now is the size of the teams. It's about time they made some changes. Teams should be no more than 6 or 7 riders.
One of the first things i'd ditch is those race radios in the team cars. Back in the day the team leader had to watch how the race was unfolding and then issue the tactics to the team. Now they can do it all from the team car. It sucks all the excitement out of the sport.
To be fair, people like Hinault and Armstrong did a lot of controlling regardless of technology. But yeah, it was a bit more spontaneous back then. I hated how no one told Millar how his yellow jersey in the Vuelta was in trouble though; poor sportsmanship.
When liggett ask I don’t know how they do 25mph on the lower slopes of a mountain day in day out he obviously didn’t know what fuel they were running on
cycling was great then, before epo was invented , men riding heavy bikes up steep hills, grinding out big gears without compact cranksets, helmets,or powermeters. I like it. And no team sky killing the race from the front !
Don't knock helmets, they have saved my life! It was more brutal in those days, but don't think they didn't use drugs then. There were always amphetamines and other drugs, they just were't always illegal or found out. The use of amphetamines in the past in sport and the armed forces, airforce, music etc. etc. was rife. The German army used them on an industrial scale during WW11, building factories to produce them, and the British pilots in the Battle of Britain were kept going by them. Drugs are not a new phenomenon.
Toe clips and straps Columbus, 531, no helmet's, no fancy shades..Harry Hall cycles.. Sherwen, Rotalac Plastic's..Stretford Wheelers..Tommy Fuller, Eeee when I was a lad.
Second hand BSA, flexy but supple, toe strAps pollycotton shirt, hat and some shorts, rucksack with beer and crisps, lanes south of Chester and into Wales. Magic!
When I first started mountain bike racing, I used road cleats and double leather straps. Locked in! Completely! It made me a very good technical rider.
Lucho se pone a decirle a Alfonso Flores que quería atacar y flores. Le responde que lo haga más arriba dónde hubiera querido atacar dónde quería había ganado la etapa
Que emotion tan Grande B e r e s to d e s p u e s. D e. 37 a n o s , l a s e n o r a Millar nos Quito ma's de una e t a P a gran cyclists P e r o M e j o r L u c h I t o, to do p a s a do como que es major .
How these riders turn out these speeds (25mph?42klm) day after day chirps Phil Liggett, er Phil, I think we know even in the mid eighties and later how that was achieved. Liggett destroyed any currency he had in cycling when he was simply a poster boy for Lance.
I used to watch Robert Millar in the Tour on Channel 4 back in the 80's!! Fantastic Climber he really was!!
Robert Millar. I”m Spanish and he was my favourite, even over Pedro Delgado. I vividly remember I recorded this stage on VHS and watched it again and again.
I admire him for his brave decision to change his life the way he really wanted, just as brave as a person as an athlete.
También fue mi favorito y me dio mucha rabia que le robaran la vuelta.
Instablaster...
Too many phobes don’t realize how much courage it takes to change gender.
Well said. truly an extraordinary person.
Well said!
One of the coolest people ever.
Millar does deserve something he was a true hero and hasn't had his troubles to seek chapeau brother you'll always be a hero to me
Remembering the day i watched Robert Millar becomes a legend! Amazing Victory on a brutal mountain stage!
Robert Millar, one of my all time favourites, a superb rider...
Robert Miller - my hero growing up. So proud that he was Scottish.
The year that crystallized my love of the exotic cycling legends and incredible backdrops , so lovely to see this again I remember Phil's commentary word for word after seeing it on world of sport all those years ago fab Robert ( him and Sean Kelly were my favourites!) Cheers lads !
So glad to hear Phil speak of him as Scottish and not British. Good on you Phil.
By definition, he is British then Scottish. Just like I'm British then English.
@@stevecooper7038 shut up Nikola
Phil Ligget on top form too! The fact his voice is somewhat distorted ( almost like he's doing the commentary by phone ) just adds to the awesomness.
Millar was an outsider, nobody helped him, no KOTM has ever worked so hard as he did for that jersey.
5:49 Millar attacks!
Fourth overall behind Fignon who was in devastating form, and Hinault and Lemond. What an amazing Tour it was.
I still resent the Spanish conspiracy that stole the Vuelta from him.
Millar really needs an OBE or something... Everyone gets them these days but he really deserved one back then! legend!
Agreed
Robert Millar will always be my favourite rider. What a climber
My cycling hero growing up.. I had a Peugeot bike and replica top, same as Millar when I was 14
So interesting to see how respectful the spectators are compared to now. Things have changed a lot.
No mobile phones to take pics and vids
I suspect fans didn't booze all day long before the Tour reached them in the 1980s - good job!
best wishes, Philippa, hoping you're happier now
El viejo Lucho Herrera: DEMOLEDOR!!!, Robert Millar: gran ciclista, gran escalador!!, Espectaculares duelos!!!
It was better in those days. Much more mystique. Plus riders had to compete in all the major races not just pick and choose like they do nowadays.
just Googled it today after watching this video. he was my hero .
Millar. Total legend. Anyone who wants to say otherwise can do so once they've gone and won king of the mountains, the dauphine libre, and won the green jersey at the giro. Anyone? No? Better shut your mouth then.
En este TOUR DE FRANCIA de 1984... LUCHO HERRERA siendo su primera participacion en esta carrera como neoprofesional realizo una gran presentacion quedo segundo en esta etapa 11 y tambien ocupo el segundo lugar en la cronoescalada de la etapa 16 detras del ganador Laurent Fignon... al dia siguiente en la etapa 17 para LUCHO seria su mayor VICTORIA ganando en el mitico puerto alpino del ALPE D' HUEZ por encima de los dos mejores de ese tiempo como lo eran Bernard Hinault el numero de esa epoca que ya habia ganado 4 TOUR y Laurent Fignon que venia de ganar el TOUR DE FRANCIA DE 1983 del año anterior.
Figno was overall winner. Herrera was the first Columbia win a stage . Alpe d'Huez if i' m correct
I get sooo exited seen the colombian herrera flighting up the mounts,what a great memories,lets go colombiaaaa!
Great memories of this, I had it on video and would replay it for years. Love the sound mix too! I like it when the commentator has to shout a bit over the crowd.
HERRERA Y DELGADO LOS MEJORES ESCALADORES..
LUEGO LLEGÓ PANTANI!!
Lucho in full flight....superb win by Millar
See how much better it was to have well behaved fans on the side of the road-- no flags, no smoke, no fancy dressed idiots running alongside the riders. Not forgetting the proper bikes, no helmets, no radio contact, simply a man against another man against a mountain. And by the way, life was better in those days too.
Chris Bell 59 I couldn't agree more. The World is a real "fuck up" just now.
PS Millar had class to burn. 😊
En aquella ocasión, Alfonso Flórez, ciclista capitán del equipo colombiano, no permitió que Lucho Herrera partiera junto a Millar, hubiera sido otra etapa para "Lucho", anterior a la gloriosa etapa 17 en ese mismo Tour, Alpe D´Huez
Que lindos duelos millar con herrera y pedro delgado
incidentally I have every itv and channel 4 tour from 1984 to 2000 in full, I had them on vhs and transferred them all to dvd before vhs some were betamax..there yu go
I'd love to see some of those if you could upload any 😉🖒
@@jayaybe1 after this bastard stole this clip and uploaded it on his channel I decided never to upload any of it again I'm still angry now! Complete bastard this guy he's never acknowledged me on it.what a Low life.
I've never even been on a racing bike in my puff (like many Scots laddies, football was my childhood obsession). But I've watched the TDF on the TV for about 20 years each summer and I can honestly say Robert Millar is my all-time sporting hero. I think the 1989 stage win is my favourite moment in sport ever, though this is fantastic to watch again, too. Thanks for posting. (And good luck to Bradley Wiggins - hopefully he's going to do it).
And Wiggo did!
Masterful solo commentary from Phil Liggett
Me acuerdo de esta etapa termino en Guset Neige , Lucho Herrera el mejor escalador del Mundo llego a 41" de Millar , que habia atacado ante , Lucho salto y le falto poco para alcanzarlo , estos son los Video que tienen que ver los escaladores Colombianos empezando por Nairo para que vea como corria Lucho , partia y no lo veian si no en la Meta
En ese dia Robert Millard atacó desde el comienzo y formó un grupo de punta junto con corredores de otras escuadras como Didier Lucien de Luxemburgo, Gerard Veldsholten de Holanda y Jean Rene Bernadeu de Francia. En el ante penultimo puerto el escoses saltó y se fuè en solitario. Herrera desde atrás ya venía en busca de la punta. En el ultimo puerto Herrera estuvo mas fuerte que Millard y le descontó un montón pero se quedó corto por 42 segundos
que tiempos aquellos. lastima que nuestro amigo robert se transformo.
Se volvio roscon
What a legend.
Pure Legend!! They didn't need red bull to give you wings in those days,just good old guts and determination!
Best kit
Cuando herrera corrio el 1 tour indurain tanbien hizo su debut indurain se retiro todo por el proseso que le hacen al ciclista indurain llego muy lejos
The best ALLEZ Robert
this when I start cycle raceing was 16,! but I only learn to ride a bike when I was 11 year old !! miller was my hero back then !! , cause I was good climber back in the mid 80s, late 90s ! / but am to fat now !!
1 year am searching for a py10 fc carbon frame like this one of rober millar and nothing!!!!!
why does robert millar doesnt get the reconaition for what he done
He will always be "Wee RAB"
he won that and didn't even have "asthma"
No. We had to wait for one programme a week on Saturday. How did we manage in those days!
And amphetamines
Robert Millar, immense stuff. Back in the day, when you had to do it all on your own without the pussy team car radios and modern gadgets that have taken all the spontaneity out of the sport. Now it's all so tightly controlled it's as dull as anything.
This was real man's racing, a golden era despite the doping. Another problem now is the size of the teams. It's about time they made some changes. Teams should be no more than 6 or 7 riders.
One of the first things i'd ditch is those race radios in the team cars. Back in the day the team leader had to watch how the race was unfolding and then issue the tactics to the team. Now they can do it all from the team car. It sucks all the excitement out of the sport.
Yeah, thats how the spanish teams robbed him of his Vuelta victory :(
To be fair, people like Hinault and Armstrong did a lot of controlling regardless of technology. But yeah, it was a bit more spontaneous back then. I hated how no one told Millar how his yellow jersey in the Vuelta was in trouble though; poor sportsmanship.
This video could be an ad for compact cranks LOL
Wasn't that the year , that he won the king mountain srage
what kind of low gear ratio’s would have been fitted in 1984 to cycle uphill at speeds of 25mph? 42/52T crank with 28T as lowest gear?
his head has been cranked..... hes a SHE now .🤩🤩🤩
Alexander The Great holy shit! that’s an impressive climbing ratio
They probably didn’t have much lower than 42 x 23, 25 at a push. Only 6 speed cassettes back then too with big changes in between
ロバートミラーに憧れてロードバイク初めてました。山岳は最高に強かった！
that's awesome
These years were legendary …….. IMO : today not so much …….
Robert Millar who is now today as Phillipa York
Millar always good in thePyrenees
Class
Great mountain climber mr miller
RECUERDO QUE EN ESA ETAPA ALGUIEN COMPAÑERO DE HERRERA LE DIJO QUE NO ATACARA AUN, Y POR ESO NO PUDO ALCANZAR A MILLAR
porq el video no lo dejaron hasta q llego herrera, igual no sabia q el habia hecho esa etapa tan buena en ese tour, solo sale la de los alpes
alfonso florez
When liggett ask I don’t know how they do 25mph on the lower slopes of a mountain day in day out he obviously didn’t know what fuel they were running on
25 mph up hill,lol Liggett: "How these riders turn out these speeds day after day is difficult to believe" lol .
cycling was great then, before epo was invented , men riding heavy bikes up steep hills, grinding out big gears without compact cranksets, helmets,or powermeters. I like it. And no team sky killing the race from the front !
Don't knock helmets, they have saved my life! It was more brutal in those days, but don't think they didn't use drugs then. There were always amphetamines and other drugs, they just were't always illegal or found out. The use of amphetamines in the past in sport and the armed forces, airforce, music etc. etc. was rife. The German army used them on an industrial scale during WW11, building factories to produce them, and the British pilots in the Battle of Britain were kept going by them. Drugs are not a new phenomenon.
@@reggiedog100Steroid, blood doping amphetamines.
Don't think they did. 1985 I think C4 coverage started.
Herrera the best Climber, King of Mountain Giro, Tour, Vuelta a España, and dauphine Libere. He also Won this two last Competitions.
Phill Ligget,the legend!
legend fea the gorbals. hungry an pushin on the peddles. inspiration tea all Scots.
John Lower oh oh folks the spelling Nazi’s finally turned up. It only took 6 years 😂😂😂 🚲 🚲 🚲
I miss the the 80s, Channel 4,s birth of the Tour in this country. back then riders said more of what they really thought. Less Puppetry.
Fue el Gran Alfonso Flórez Ortiz, quien era el ciclista colombiano con mas experiencia en ese Tour
9:19 - "and there is the red kite"..."it means 609 yards to the finish". Eh.... what?
1 kilometre
Haha yes, thought I misheard it but he indeed says 609 yards. Creative mathematics I guess ? 1 mile = 1609 metres, so 1 kilometre must be 609 yards ?
lucho inmenso
Halcyon Days. .
When we were free...
AND YOUNG!!!!!
And Roche's baby? Nicholas Roche!
Toe clips and straps Columbus, 531, no helmet's, no fancy shades..Harry Hall cycles..
Sherwen, Rotalac Plastic's..Stretford Wheelers..Tommy Fuller,
Eeee when I was a lad.
Second hand BSA, flexy but supple, toe strAps pollycotton shirt, hat and some shorts, rucksack with beer and crisps, lanes south of Chester and into Wales. Magic!
SLX
When I first started mountain bike racing, I used road cleats and double leather straps. Locked in! Completely! It made me a very good technical rider.
Viva Vitus, Pippa York was a legend.
Lucho se pone a decirle a Alfonso Flores que quería atacar y flores. Le responde que lo haga más arriba dónde hubiera querido atacar dónde quería había ganado la etapa
Viva el Escoses 🏴💚
para los "snob's" del carbono, vieron que el cromoly no "flexa"?
Que emotion tan Grande B e r e s to d e s p u e s. D e. 37 a n o s , l a s e n o r a Millar nos Quito ma's de una e t a P a gran cyclists P e r o M e j o r L u c h I t o, to do p a s a do como que es major .
Pedro Delgado was and is a cut in the highest classification. No honour whatsoever. ........
Why do you say that?
Allez Bob.
how do they manage this day after day 😅😆 ''EPO' 'Test' etc ,,, but who cares these men are machines ,one of the hardest sports
This was long before EPO...there were other PED's being used though.
hes been the forgotten cyclist of british cyclying
He's not British he's Scottish
Lucho en esta etapa atacó Muy tarde
That was the test je did win the Jersey king the mountains . Figno de
How these riders turn out these speeds (25mph?42klm) day after day chirps Phil Liggett, er Phil, I think we know even in the mid eighties and later how that was achieved. Liggett destroyed any currency he had in cycling when he was simply a poster boy for Lance.
Ironic that he tested positive for testosterone on the 1992 Vuelta, given that he later transitioned in to a woman.
Liggett, as ever, such a classless act...................
in 1984 the cyclists didnt have the techocoly that cyclist have now today
first girl that win a tour stages,klass!!
we have entered a time when you cant make a joke without upsetting a humourless snowflake :-)
Es cierto, pero Nairo Quintana tiene mas técnica escalando, lo puede superar
this dude is now a chick...