Friday Favorites: Plant-Based Protein - Are Pea and Soy Protein Isolates Harmful?

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  • @Auguur
    @Auguur 6 годин тому +6

    Imagine promoting an animal based diet in the midst of all the studies showing a higher mortality.

    • @edgbarra
      @edgbarra 5 годин тому

      They use stories. Stories are easier to understand than studies

    • @os2958
      @os2958 3 години тому

      They use singing and dancing and show beautiful people who dont actually eat their food

    • @heidimartinez5221
      @heidimartinez5221 2 години тому

      It's all about the money! Our country definitely promotes animal based (and junk) food. Between the meat industry and the pharmaceutical companies, they need us to eat animal protein to make their money.

  • @mjs28s
    @mjs28s День тому +16

    @1:59
    The sodium content is misleading a bit.
    Beef has some sodium in it, of course. But as you cook it you season it more on the outside to make it taste better. they taste of almost nothing if you don't season them.
    Having cooked Impossible and Beyond patties I didn't need to season them.
    I wager that the actual as-eaten sodium content of the beef is much higher than the table shows, which seems to show the raw meat status.
    If you have ever eaten an unseasoned beef patty before going plant based, you know what i am talking about.

    • @os2958
      @os2958 3 години тому +1

      Wow such an excellent point thank you

  • @Len1977gt
    @Len1977gt День тому +6

    Well said Dr. Greger!

  • @sebastienconstant5190
    @sebastienconstant5190 День тому +8

    Started on a pesco diet 3 months ago, Is it ok to have a BP of 118/58 pulse 59 on a vegan diet for 5 weeks only? I used to be 200 pound 3 months ago and now I’m 165 pounds and stop smoking 3 months ago as well. But before my BP was averaging 143/83? But being honest I feel good

    • @mumonatightbudget
      @mumonatightbudget 9 годин тому +2

      My pulse is an average of 43, and my BP is around 120/60.... I've got much higher muscle mass than most women my age, I've cycled around multiple countries and I've been vegetarian/vegan for 46 years including at conception 😅

    • @os2958
      @os2958 3 години тому

      @@mumonatightbudget you are so lucky!

    • @os2958
      @os2958 3 години тому

      Sounds like a fantastic improvement. Nutrition facts has vids on the pollution in fish so plants are still better

  • @ptinvite7942
    @ptinvite7942 21 годину тому +2

    Title subject isn't at the beginning where it should be. Starts @ 2:06

  • @ABCDEF-zl6nj
    @ABCDEF-zl6nj День тому +8

    Yes and he talks about that in other videos saying how they should not be consumed regularly. Instead, use them as a bridge when transitioning from a meat to plant based diet.

    • @DCGreenZone
      @DCGreenZone День тому

      Plants have up to a million "plant based toxins" according to the WHO. Meat -----> zero. When you listen to the hundreds of people on No Carb Life who have cured nearly every illness on carnivore, you will have second thoughts about "plants"

    • @REL602
      @REL602 18 годин тому

      Nobody should ever transition from a meat to a plant based diet. They should transition from a carbohydrate based diet to a meat and vegetable based diet.

    • @eng.miroslavmanahilov1944
      @eng.miroslavmanahilov1944 17 годин тому +3

      @@REL602 , no.

    • @Dasha-nh2dw
      @Dasha-nh2dw 8 годин тому +1

      @@REL602 wrong

    • @quentindesmet5383
      @quentindesmet5383 8 годин тому +1

      @@REL602 BS

  • @levi5073
    @levi5073 День тому +4

    Guys, I have both severe gastritis and IBD
    Are there any plant-based protein powders with no triggering ingredients?

    • @mikefox3939
      @mikefox3939 День тому +5

      Try hemp protein. It has the full range of amino acids, fiber and is beneficial for gut microbiome. It's what I use and it has helped me immensely

    • @hornsteinhof7592
      @hornsteinhof7592 День тому +2

      I can recommend pumpkin protein as well

    • @thewitchskitchen
      @thewitchskitchen 23 години тому +2

      I'd recommend hulled hemp seeds as opposed to hemp protein - then you get the good omega acids as well.

    • @REL602
      @REL602 18 годин тому

      No. The ketogenic diet is what will cure your gastritis and IBS. Guaranteed. End of discussion. Watch Dr. Berg and Ken Berry videos.

  • @dianebernier9214
    @dianebernier9214 День тому +6

    ❤ thanks, Doc!

  • @thewitchskitchen
    @thewitchskitchen 23 години тому +1

    I never understood why anyone would bother with protein isolates and powders, when the healthiest protein and healthy fats (better than fish oil) all come together naturally, in hemp seeds.

    • @coliberation
      @coliberation 17 годин тому

      @@thewitchskitchen I have heard great things and occasionally consume them in smoothies. I am not expecting you to answer these: so I wonder, what is the risk of oxidization? What is the best temperature to bake a patty from this? Where can I buy them fresh?

    • @mugs4439
      @mugs4439 7 годин тому +1

      Because hemp seed only has about 6 grams of protein per 100 calories. For my weight of 250 pounds the recommended protein intake is 160-250 as someone who plays sports. That would mean i'd need to eat 3000-4000 calories worth of hemp seed to meet my daily recommendation. With pea protein isolate, adding a bit of NACystein and Methionine its like 25-30g of protein per 100 calories, so I can meet my daily recommendation with just like 500 calories worth of it and get the rest through food like a bit of tofu or something else without my entire daily diet being focused on only eating the absolute highest vegan protein foods

    • @Auguur
      @Auguur 6 годин тому +3

      @@mugs4439 Pretty sure he wasn't suggesting relying SOLELY on hemp seeds for all your protein needs.

    • @mugs4439
      @mugs4439 17 хвилин тому

      @@Auguur I was just explaining why people, like me, bother with protein powders. The 4,000 calories of hemp seed was to just illustrate a point

  • @carolinemuch696
    @carolinemuch696 День тому +3

    Coconut oil is bad?

    • @janwanderer7660
      @janwanderer7660 23 години тому +4

      saturated fat is just like animal fat

    • @PositivelyDevine
      @PositivelyDevine 21 годину тому +5

      @carolinemuch696 yes, as is all oil but coconut oil is one of the unhealthiest of plant oils

    • @neuroplasticodyssey
      @neuroplasticodyssey 19 годин тому +1

      Saturated fat is NOT bad for you. Oatmeal is healthier than eggs?! This is wild.

    • @Mercymurv
      @Mercymurv 18 годин тому

      @@neuroplasticodyssey See his videos on eggs. See his videos on oats.

    • @REL602
      @REL602 18 годин тому

      @janwanderer7660 Which are both spectacularly nutritious and beneficial.

  • @Alexander-ok7fm
    @Alexander-ok7fm День тому +2

    Thank you!

  • @walter1824
    @walter1824 День тому +2

    Anyone know a good way of preparing 1 scoop of soy protein powder other than drinking it ?

    • @wfpbwfpb
      @wfpbwfpb День тому +6

      In oats.

    • @ronsiegel7552
      @ronsiegel7552 День тому +4

      @walter1824 I've seen recipes for pancakes, put into oatmeal, made into ice cream,, puddings, etc.

    • @Sergio2006A
      @Sergio2006A День тому +4

      You can use it in baked goods (ideally neutrally flavored), by swapping one third of the amount of flour.

    • @REL602
      @REL602 18 годин тому

      Yes. Throw it in the trash is the best way to prepare protein powders. Eat meat and eggs instead.

    • @regina5749
      @regina5749 14 годин тому

      ​@@REL602and start taking heart medication to manage the heart disease meat causes

  • @KWifler
    @KWifler 22 години тому +1

    It's all a balancing act. One of my docs told me my cholesterol levels were too low! What happens to your body without enough cholesterol? Well, I stopped as much oatmeal... Your body needs HDL and LDL cholesterol. Does it need saturated and unsaturated fats as well? There apparently is such a thing as too healthy for some people.

    • @Mercymurv
      @Mercymurv 18 годин тому +1

      There's no need for dietary cholesterol (LDL), and your body makes HDL on its own.

    • @REL602
      @REL602 18 годин тому

      Lay off the refined carbs. Go keto.

  • @AndrewPawley11
    @AndrewPawley11 15 годин тому +1

    I love this channel!

  • @nazokashii
    @nazokashii День тому +1

    So cool! Thank you so much

  • @howy3333
    @howy3333 9 годин тому

    what about nitrogen. You did a whole video on how any meats increased nitrogen which was actually the cause of increased mortality

  • @jeffsmith5442
    @jeffsmith5442 20 годин тому +3

    How can you compare oatmeal to eggs for a protein video

  • @jeffsmith5442
    @jeffsmith5442 20 годин тому

    Yo Dr. Gregor might wanna let these vegans know P protein isolate or powder is mega high in sodium concerning high for some people heads up otherwise if mixed with rice protein it’ll almost be as good as whey

  • @roger1uk676
    @roger1uk676 День тому +6

    The trouble with these plant based burgers is they are all ultra processed foods! They taste good but its all the stuff thats added to these unatural man made foods that make them bad!

    • @REL602
      @REL602 18 годин тому

      and they don't taste good at all.

    • @mumonatightbudget
      @mumonatightbudget 9 годин тому +3

      They're not as good as unprocessed beans and pulses, but they're still much healthier than meat.

    • @Vegan_Photographs
      @Vegan_Photographs Годину тому +2

      @@REL602 “they don’t taste good” “they’re all UPF”
      All UPF burgers are fast food but to state they ALL taste bad is ridiculous
      Also, there are MANY whole food plant burgers that’s very healthy and tastes good
      If you think nothing that’s made from plants tastes good, that’s crazy

  • @sdhillon901
    @sdhillon901 20 годин тому

    Beyond burgers and impossible are filled with dextrose

  • @Jodie-masterson
    @Jodie-masterson 15 годин тому

    Saturated plant fat and animal fat are not the same thing!!!!!!

  • @stevelanghorn1407
    @stevelanghorn1407 3 години тому

    I do wish you'd slow the pace of your verbal explanations. It's hard to understand your rather affected "drawly" style sometimes.

  • @samiryan214
    @samiryan214 День тому

    How to explain high protein intake is associated with an increased risk of diabetes and insulin resistance?

    • @ramenface_________________
      @ramenface_________________ День тому +1

      Lots of protein spikes insulin.

    • @REL602
      @REL602 18 годин тому +2

      Nope. High carb is the cause of diabetes and insulin resistance. Fat and protein are good for you.

    • @samiryan214
      @samiryan214 13 годин тому

      @@ramenface_________________ Insulin spiking isn't a bad thing if there are intervals between each spike (spaced meals). Insulin spikes are what deliver nutrients to the cells.

  • @MrBgodwin
    @MrBgodwin День тому

    The potential for heavy metals, pesticides and pfas has left me no place to run for safe foods. Any ideas if plant proteins are safe from these toxins? Apparently my oatmeal is killing me now with roundup. I'm trying high quality peanuts daily. Are peanuts safe?

    • @hornsteinhof7592
      @hornsteinhof7592 День тому +1

      I recommend not to exaggerate it - where I come from, there are review magazines for foods like Stiftung Warentest or Ökotest which analyze foods for residues, fungal toxins, heavy metals and other contaminants. These will help you to find the highest quality foods of each category!

    • @dianasthings729
      @dianasthings729 23 години тому +1

      peanuts have mold

    • @KWifler
      @KWifler 22 години тому

      It's all a balancing act. Better break out that tight rope! My doc said I was eating too much oatmeal and bringing my cholesterol too low! The extra complication is that we are all unique. Some people may benefit from eating less healthy. How do you know if that includes you? You almost have to become a biochemist yourself. We all should become biochemists!

    • @gooberpeas7926
      @gooberpeas7926 22 години тому

      No, peanuts are not safe. Peanuts, like so many other annual crops, are sprayed with glyphosate as a "desiccant," not as a pesticide, thus even organic peanuts likely contain glyphosate. I have found only one brand that protects its peanut butter from glyphosate, and it boasts glyphosate-free certification. "No place to run for safe foods" -- I feel it.

  • @kateelderson
    @kateelderson 2 години тому

    Happy and productive new year Doctor Greger and thank you for your efforts.

  • @Parker_Miller_M.S.
    @Parker_Miller_M.S. День тому +5

    At 4:46 Greger states one can't show cause and effect until plant protein is put to the test in experimental research (RCTs) but earlier references the 2017 IARC monograph on red and processed meat which exclusively uses observational data, and also references smoking and lung cancer risk which that relationship is entirely observational data. Hes effectively contradicting himself in the video. Still good overall data being presented showing plant protein is more health promoting to animal protein generally though.

    • @jamesherried9269
      @jamesherried9269 День тому +8

      No,he's just presenting what evidence and studies he's aware of,whether it's observational studies or randomized controlled studies (which are hard to come by for humans).

    • @marianorgr
      @marianorgr 22 години тому +4

      Causation is inferred when pooling all the lines of evidence together, not by a single study or a single design. Smoking and lung cancer causality was established looking at diverse lines of evidence together and making a rational thought

  • @earFront
    @earFront 4 години тому

    Thank You

  • @valentinivanov3389
    @valentinivanov3389 7 годин тому +1

    Question is what happens when you eat 200 grams of protein per day not 25-30
    There are plenty of bodybuilders who live to 90 despite the drugs so may not be as bad. There was this begetarian bodybuilder who recently died at 95 i think jn an accident

    • @__NikolaTesla__
      @__NikolaTesla__ 2 хвилини тому

      Hypertrophy training extends life expency. The viable composition of macronutrients has also a huge range, no problem to consume lots of protein.
      The other part is just anecdotes, which is the weakest scientific evidence for a reason: human cognition is highly flawed. I don't even bother with that.

  • @zamfirtoth6441
    @zamfirtoth6441 8 годин тому +1

    He looks like someone to take advice from about protein...lol

  • @Pi2.718
    @Pi2.718 23 години тому

    i have pesticide meter, i measured various food sources around the world, including veg in rural Italy …. the only clear from pesticide food was …. meat, sometimes not even grass fed … we are left with nothing to eat, never mind protein or not !!!! The highest if I recall correctly were watermelons, melons, lemons, tomatoes 😮

    • @danielskipp1
      @danielskipp1 21 годину тому

      @@Pi2.718 did you test "organic" food?

    • @mumonatightbudget
      @mumonatightbudget 9 годин тому

      So sad 😢 where did you get your pesticide meter? Was it cheap?

  • @vegangames3468
    @vegangames3468 День тому

    💙

  • @mrdarryl2row
    @mrdarryl2row 17 годин тому +1

    Eggs beat oatmeal every day!

  • @jeffsmith5442
    @jeffsmith5442 20 годин тому +1

    How can you compare oatmeal to eggs for a protein video and if you eat, say 100 g of protein from peas dry or whatever you can double your calories for the day if you’re trying to meet like 80 grams and have fun with all that fiber I tried to stay healthy being a vegan for four years ended up, losing a lot of muscle skinny fat and I never ate dirty food junk

  • @Alf22374
    @Alf22374 День тому

    MMMMHH, reheated content👌
    Another W for veganism.

  • @EugeniaCarnley
    @EugeniaCarnley День тому +2

    But the impossible burger is highly processed!

    • @jstekic
      @jstekic День тому

      Why would one eat vegan junk food, when you can eat lentils, beans, etc.?

    • @shaunadams-rh1ds
      @shaunadams-rh1ds День тому

      As he said if you were going to eat a beef patty or bacon etc these are the far better option. But a whole food options is superior. As he said you have to compare it to something..

  • @groundedmike
    @groundedmike 20 годин тому

    Can we look at biochemistry rather than population studies or meta analyses? This information sounds 10+ years out of date.

  • @georgebmac8140
    @georgebmac8140 День тому

    He seems to be mixing whole plant processed with fiber with processed plant proteins : “Plant protein” - is it processed & refined. Plus much depends on what you measure.

    • @johnpeters-rw9it
      @johnpeters-rw9it День тому +2

      Did you watch the entire video? Isolates are processed. He spoke specifically about them at the end.

  • @significantlystrangeboi9929
    @significantlystrangeboi9929 17 годин тому

    Saturated fats are not bad, we’ve been eating them since we’ve learned how to cook, in other words, since we’ve existed as a species. Animal fats just so happen to be perfect for cooking and that’s what we’ve been eating for the past 200,000 years. cheap seed oils are bad. Unless it says “organic” or “expeller pressed,” it usually means it’s been chemically processed. Beyond burgers use cheap oil and preservatives, The real deal meats are much healthier. If you want your burger and want to have it too, just use ground venison or bison. If you want a plant-based alternative, then don’t even think about burgers. Just grind up some beans with some oats and boom, you’ve got yourself a complete protein flower to put in your smoothies for thickening, although it may mess with your gut, if you’re not used to it.

  • @henrikwolsky8192
    @henrikwolsky8192 День тому

    On a WFPB diet I've developed intolerances to soy and gluten.

    • @ivanfreire
      @ivanfreire День тому

      Pea or rice protein are excellent options. Maybe you should talk to your doctor or dietician

  • @scottjones5406
    @scottjones5406 День тому

    This guy is so full of it 😂

    • @shaunadams-rh1ds
      @shaunadams-rh1ds День тому +4

      Full of knowledge,m yes, it seems you either can't understand it or don't want to. He sights reputable studies so there is no denying it. You just keep gulping down the meat, nothing unhealthy about it at all 😂

    • @PositivelyDevine
      @PositivelyDevine 21 годину тому +3

      This is who he is. I'm not sure what you don't like about him. He's an amazing person. He's witty and extremely intelligent and kind

  • @jeffsmith5442
    @jeffsmith5442 20 годин тому

    Yo Dr. Gregor might wanna let these vegans know P protein isolate or powder is mega high in sodium concerning high for some people heads up otherwise if mixed with rice protein it’ll almost be as good as whey