The most classic match: Elves vs Goblin | Premodern Paper Gameplay | Magic: The Gathering

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    4 Tangle Wire
    4 Priest of Titania
    4 Wirewood Symbiote
    4 Quirion Ranger
    4 Multani's Acolyte
    1 Squee, Goblin Nabob
    1 Nantuko Vigilante
    1 Caller of the Claw
    2 Masticore
    4 Deranged Hermit
    4 Survival of the Fittest
    4 Fyndhorn Elves
    4 Llanowar Elves
    14 Forest
    4 Gaea's Cradle
    1 Tribal Forcemage
    4 Wall of Blossoms
    1 Spike Feeder
    4 Naturalize
    4 Call of the Herd
    1 Tranquil Domain
    1 Nantuko Vigilante
    Tommi's Goblin Decklist:
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    4 Gempalm Incinerator
    1 Goblin King
    4 Goblin Lackey
    4 Goblin Matron
    4 Goblin Piledriver
    4 Goblin Ringleader
    1 Goblin Sharpshooter
    4 Goblin Warchief
    4 Mogg Fanatic
    3 Siege-Gang Commander
    3 Naturalize
    1 Forest
    1 Mossfire Valley
    4 Karplusan Forest
    7 Mountain
    3 Rishadan Port
    4 Wasteland
    4 Wooded Foothills
    4 Pyrokinesis
    4 Hull Breach
    2 Tormod's Crypt
    2 Caller of the Claw
    2 Anarchy
    1 Naturalize

КОМЕНТАРІ • 232

  • @MengusWorkshop
    @MengusWorkshop  6 місяців тому +96

    We reached 10.000 views in less than 24 hours! That's a huge achievement for my channel! It means there's definitely a lot of interest in the format (I was a bit scared it wouldn't do well). Me and Tommi will definitely play it again soon!

    • @MrCrazycarlwinter
      @MrCrazycarlwinter 6 місяців тому +4

      One of us, one of us!

    • @danielsaleh887
      @danielsaleh887 6 місяців тому +3

      Consider play it in best of 5, Mengu. It's kinda better to show us both play/draw perspective. Can't wait to see more!

    • @zirilan3398
      @zirilan3398 6 місяців тому +3

      You may wanna throw a correction in the vid for terms of legal sets in the format. PreModern starts with 4th edition not Ice Age.

    • @micheleb.00
      @micheleb.00 6 місяців тому

      Let's play the other historic matchup: Landstill vs Sligh!

    • @DrMisifux
      @DrMisifux 6 місяців тому +1

      Some psychatog :3

  • @LANMEE2
    @LANMEE2 6 місяців тому +98

    Honestly premodern is the best format in the game! Thanks for supporting it, hope you continue to do so :)!

    • @joehenderson1
      @joehenderson1 6 місяців тому +4

      Agreed!

    • @JohnFromAccounting
      @JohnFromAccounting 6 місяців тому +3

      I love the variety and the low power level.

    • @AndreaMengucci
      @AndreaMengucci 6 місяців тому +21

      After seeing the overwhelming success of this video in just the first 16 hours we'll definitely play it more. We both love to play the format, if viewers love it too that's perfect!

    • @hugob0ss
      @hugob0ss 6 місяців тому +4

      Bring more pre-modern decks with a twist, white weenie vs mono black. Bring back bolts , birds and hypnotic specter

    • @awxangel6781
      @awxangel6781 6 місяців тому +2

      such a nostalgic format, too, seeing old card frames and neat, janky interactions.

  • @fpawluszmtg
    @fpawluszmtg 6 місяців тому +42

    Fantastic decks showcasing the best constructed format Magic has to offer. Loved to see your innovations to the Elves deck. Looking forward to see more!

  • @ThePatomendoza
    @ThePatomendoza 6 місяців тому +22

    You have to attack first, and then sac fanatics. That way you have a bigger piledriver. 5:51

    • @roberto6698
      @roberto6698 3 місяці тому +1

      Also, if I'm not mistaken, right at the end of that turn, he should have summoned two bear tokens instead of one

  • @Christjs27
    @Christjs27 6 місяців тому +40

    More Premodern, please. This format is underrepresented and needs more love.

  • @pepelopulus
    @pepelopulus 6 місяців тому +16

    Best format, from the golden era of mtg, big tournaments, even when they were broadcast on ESPN. Many original decks. Just hope Hasbro doesn't stick his nose in

    • @baronred7600
      @baronred7600 5 місяців тому +1

      Hasbro can't ruin premodern because the format doesn't care about new cards.

    • @nickfanzo
      @nickfanzo 3 місяці тому +2

      Hasbro can ruin mtg all they want but they can’t take away fan made formats 😊

  • @osgalion
    @osgalion 5 місяців тому +4

    Premodern is soooo beautiful! I am italian and i started play mtg with Mirrodin in the modern era, but i remember very well the feeling of older cards and the more expert players who play the rock, white weenie, psychoatog and survival madness! I started play premodern three months ago and now it is the only mtg format i play. mtg is not the same anymore for me...

  • @karamelptcg
    @karamelptcg 6 місяців тому +8

    One of the most fun formats! I'd love to see Mengu play Standstill in this format.

  • @nicholasgarrison1709
    @nicholasgarrison1709 5 місяців тому +2

    Love that you're doing more Premodern veedeos! Best format. Keep doing premodern content please!

  • @claudiocontu8987
    @claudiocontu8987 6 місяців тому +5

    This is definitly my childhood! So cool!

  • @VampiricTutor
    @VampiricTutor 6 місяців тому +1

    Premodern is the best format! Thanks Mengu for showing it! We want more Premodern content soon. Greetings from Argentina, where there are many of us who play this beautiful format!

  • @STAVROS1801
    @STAVROS1801 6 місяців тому +2

    more premodern content! Also Tom missed a lot of dmg g1 by not attacking with piledriver + double mogg fanatic, then sacrificing both fanatics after declaring attackers but before blockers! Cheers Mengu 😎
    EDIT: Absolutely sick you use real premodern cards only!

  • @TravisWasntAvailable
    @TravisWasntAvailable 6 місяців тому +2

    Imagine a world where a 3/3 body is all you need to stall a mono red deck. Great to see Call of the Herd in its natural habitat!

  • @ArtyGarciaArceo
    @ArtyGarciaArceo 6 місяців тому +5

    This was fantastic! Thank you for giving us some high quality Premodern content. Cheers!

  • @sagemorgillo5313
    @sagemorgillo5313 6 місяців тому +1

    So excited for the formats you have been going through on this channel. Love the decks in this video as well. Those old cards are quite pleasing to look at.

  • @netoboralli
    @netoboralli 6 місяців тому +3

    I hope you bring more premodern videos!! That was really good

  • @zakalwe3
    @zakalwe3 Місяць тому +1

    fantastic, cheers Mengu and Tommi!

  • @mtgbanding
    @mtgbanding 6 місяців тому +1

    Wow, Premodern! Game two was a wild one, really fun to watch. Thanks again for the Premodern videos and looking forward to more!

  • @ImpulseCrewGaming
    @ImpulseCrewGaming 6 місяців тому +2

    I'd love to see some SPICY Premodern brews. Meta decks are totally cool, but the brews I think are really where it shines!

  • @jahnbruggemann3725
    @jahnbruggemann3725 6 місяців тому +1

    really enjoyed the Video. had no idea of premoder but loved the gameplay and the editing. keep it up

  • @ricardobarros4051
    @ricardobarros4051 6 місяців тому +1

    Excellent content - the editing is fantastic! G2 was pretty cool. All in all, a great watch. As for what to play next, dreadnought would be sweet!

  • @matthewbenoit3098
    @matthewbenoit3098 6 місяців тому +5

    Premodern is such a great format

  • @enjoiskate3
    @enjoiskate3 6 місяців тому +1

    Just wanted to compliment the “old border” treatment on the display for cards in hand. Really fun lol

    • @mattb2883
      @mattb2883 6 місяців тому

      All cards printed today have the old border, which is the black part. The part that encloses and separates the art and text boxes is the frame.

  • @jakubvondrejc7022
    @jakubvondrejc7022 6 місяців тому +1

    Pauper and Premodern, now this is some real Magic content... plus it's Mengu. Zero downsides.

  • @jeremyarcus-goldberg9543
    @jeremyarcus-goldberg9543 4 місяці тому +1

    Elves vs Goblins was an excellent Duel Deck product!

  • @wheals
    @wheals 6 місяців тому +2

    All the old border cards I was looking for! 😍

    • @mattb2883
      @mattb2883 6 місяців тому

      The border is the black part. The part which separates the art and text box is the frame.

  • @alexanderyoungert1969
    @alexanderyoungert1969 6 місяців тому +2

    I kinda hope that thing playing field gets rotated 45. Like how coverage has it. It's harder to pay attention when it set up this way. Looking at both fields by the side seems way better.

  • @Spherion84
    @Spherion84 6 місяців тому +2

    Ciao Mengu, anche io da giocatore di vecchia data amo questo formato e mi sono messo a giocarlo con i miei amici da qualche mese. Penso sia uno dei pochi formati constructed rimasti "sani": partite sempre stimolanti e match-up più o meno equilibrati. Peccato solo per il costo impossibile di alcune carte, culla e mox diamond su tutte.
    Ciao da Roma e complimenti per i tuoi contenuti

  • @b0lkan
    @b0lkan 6 місяців тому +1

    Love this format! The only problem I see if reserved list cards eventually pricing out players just like with legacy/vintage.

  • @jii-ro7083
    @jii-ro7083 6 місяців тому +1

    Next time for premodern classics would be cool to see some stasis games :D

  • @jii-ro7083
    @jii-ro7083 6 місяців тому +1

    Typical premodern goblin gamer. Lackey on turn 1 and win game. No lackey on turn 1 and lose game :D

  • @alesseidler1770
    @alesseidler1770 6 місяців тому +1

    Finally some premodern, thats awsome Maestro! And i also love to play a lot of Elves. Lets see how you gonna do vs the gobous.

  • @Faktorek
    @Faktorek 3 місяці тому +1

    Awesome content. I miss those time. I started MtG when Tempest was rotating out of T2. Just one question - how come you play with cards worth of 1000s of $ and film it using - what it seems - a very cheap camera?

  • @t0xo
    @t0xo 6 місяців тому +4

    Lots of love for premodern ❤

  • @hugob0ss
    @hugob0ss 6 місяців тому +1

    Make a pre-modern series. Bring back white weenie vs mono black. Bring back bolt the bird, dark ritual and hypnotic specter , burn decks, millings decks.

  • @TheFallenSanctum
    @TheFallenSanctum 6 місяців тому +1

    Always a fan of your content mengu
    Didnt know premodern was a format thought it was just called legacy or vintage XD
    Looking forward to what other paper formats your gonna bring to light
    Really do enjoy the cards in hand and other nice edits you guys do in the video the QOL is top tier some other magic gameplay channels could def pickup on these QOLs keep it up

    • @MengusWorkshop
      @MengusWorkshop  6 місяців тому

      What s QOL? 😅

    • @TheFallenSanctum
      @TheFallenSanctum 6 місяців тому

      quality of life (showing the cards in hand with name, the cards on top that are a known quantity, etc) just visual upgrades for the viewers enjoyment@@MengusWorkshop

    • @laslopanaflex5053
      @laslopanaflex5053 6 місяців тому

      Quality of Life (usually used to signify that a user experience is streamlined, they were referring to the cardmarket-style cards-in-hands and so on). appreciate this channel! @@MengusWorkshop

  • @dizzie8685
    @dizzie8685 6 місяців тому +1

    Wanna to see premodern again, maybe standstill or dead guy ale

  • @isaacmjelmaspro
    @isaacmjelmaspro 6 місяців тому +1

    Great game! Very cool to see this format in action

  • @Bobbyabrams18
    @Bobbyabrams18 6 місяців тому +2

    Super cool format!

  • @joehenderson1
    @joehenderson1 6 місяців тому +2

    Premodern is my favorite format!

  • @tierazo
    @tierazo 6 місяців тому +1

    Please make more premodern content!

  • @itharim5884
    @itharim5884 6 місяців тому +1

    This game was WAY to quick! We need some Standstill for sure!

  • @Cephalid432
    @Cephalid432 6 місяців тому +1

    My favorite format 😊

  • @bak2grave4u
    @bak2grave4u 6 місяців тому +1

    i honestly thought premodern was just modern without the modern horizons and other straight to modern sets like Lord of the Rings

  • @4time2waste
    @4time2waste Місяць тому

    I missed why the goblin sharpshooter did not ping all the 1/1's in one turn?

  • @giorgiodalmasso9288
    @giorgiodalmasso9288 6 місяців тому +1

    GOBLIN FOREVER 👺 is there a tier 1 of premodern?

  • @nicolascasime9248
    @nicolascasime9248 5 місяців тому

    Awesome video!
    Sorry for writing in an old one. (Knew the channel a couple of days ago and watching all of its content).
    Could someone explain me the standoff between Masticore and goblin Sharpshooter at 22:55?
    Don't understand exactly what's happening. Goblin Sharpshooter is a huge threat and Mengu is letting it live?
    And then, finally when Tom untapped it.... Why didn't he keep on shooting stuff? It also untaps itself. He could have killed also both llanowar elves, and the ringleader would have finished untapped.
    I feel like the Goblin Sharpshooter threat was extremely overlooked, and then it kind of worked, because that threat wasn't used. Both of them made a mistake?
    Im pretty sure I am missing something huge, and will feel really dumb when someone explains me. But anyway...
    Any care to explain me whats happening here?

  • @zackb9383
    @zackb9383 6 місяців тому +1

    Engagement.
    Love this.

  • @kipofmudd1702
    @kipofmudd1702 6 місяців тому

    You could have just put a regeneration shield up on the msnticore in response to him tapping cradle. Or just in his upkeep before he draws.He would have to wipe his board to kill the manticore in response. Unless im mistaken on the way regen works now

    • @MengusWorkshop
      @MengusWorkshop  6 місяців тому +1

      you can t respond to mana ability

    • @kipofmudd1702
      @kipofmudd1702 6 місяців тому

      @@MengusWorkshop rishidan port's tapping cradle is not a mana ability

  • @andreashk2tm
    @andreashk2tm 6 місяців тому +3

    More Premodern! I would love to see you play UW Naught :D

  • @hanspeter4845
    @hanspeter4845 6 місяців тому +1

    Really loved it.

  • @bojuka_bob
    @bojuka_bob 6 місяців тому +1

    Love premodern but some of the real estate (and staples) can be pricey

  • @erickcarjes2738
    @erickcarjes2738 6 місяців тому +1

    Great vídeo!

  • @nullpointerworks4036
    @nullpointerworks4036 4 місяці тому

    Hey Mengu, is Coldsnap allowed in pre-modern? I understood it was suppose to be a sequal to Ice Age, but never got released back then. WotC decided to make it to close the "unfinished business".

    • @MengusWorkshop
      @MengusWorkshop  4 місяці тому

      No it has new border. Only old border allowed! 😅

    • @nullpointerworks4036
      @nullpointerworks4036 4 місяці тому

      @@MengusWorkshop 🤔WotC should "remaster" them into vintage frame.

  • @cianni210985
    @cianni210985 6 місяців тому +1

    So many times i've played this match!

  • @pietroforghieri9177
    @pietroforghieri9177 6 місяців тому +1

    Nice, go gobbooooos!!!!👺👺👹👹

  • @crystalcastles8856
    @crystalcastles8856 6 місяців тому +1

    more premodern with mono black if possible please :3

  • @3o7Mian
    @3o7Mian 6 місяців тому +1

    More premodern :)

  • @henryelmhorst208
    @henryelmhorst208 6 місяців тому +1

    Premodern!!!!

  • @matichribar5823
    @matichribar5823 6 місяців тому +1

    Great mtg content🔥

  • @f8y111
    @f8y111 6 місяців тому +1

    It sucks that the name was already taken cause I think historic would be a much better name for this format

  • @fodaseocanal
    @fodaseocanal 6 місяців тому

    why exactly didn't sharpshooter machinegun down the entire opposing board the turn it came online...?

  • @seileen1234
    @seileen1234 6 місяців тому +1

    That's cool

  • @mattb2883
    @mattb2883 6 місяців тому +1

    Unlike modern, graveyard order matters in PM, so rearranging is not legal

    • @MengusWorkshop
      @MengusWorkshop  6 місяців тому

      Yeah there s that black 4/4 that returns to hand if second right?

    • @mattb2883
      @mattb2883 6 місяців тому

      @@MengusWorkshop Phyrexian Furnace is the most common example (remove bottom card of graveyard). Spinning Darkness, Volrath's Shapeshifter, and Krovikan Horror are others.

  • @Javier-ou2jm
    @Javier-ou2jm 6 місяців тому +1

    thanks for video

  • @alessioferlucci2805
    @alessioferlucci2805 6 місяців тому +2

    Goblins

  • @Nerdiac
    @Nerdiac 6 місяців тому +1

    Mengu and premodern? Instant click to subscribe

  • @MikeLCammarata
    @MikeLCammarata 6 місяців тому +1

    Tommy been winning a lot lately mengu

    • @MengusWorkshop
      @MengusWorkshop  6 місяців тому +1

      He's too good. I did beat him at the Premodern tournament this past weekend though! :D

  • @riccardocantarella5408
    @riccardocantarella5408 5 місяців тому

    This format needs more coverage against the absolutely dreadful bullcrap that WotC is constantly issuing for modern, standard, commander, etc..

    • @MengusWorkshop
      @MengusWorkshop  5 місяців тому

      New premodern video just came out check it out!

  • @nickfanzo
    @nickfanzo 3 місяці тому +1

    I’ve been playing magic since 1994 and I’ll tell you, I can’t stand the state of the game today, so I only play premodern AND 93/94 old school.

  • @issmoul931
    @issmoul931 2 місяці тому

    Need genesis in the grave

  • @gamerater959
    @gamerater959 6 місяців тому

    Cardmarket guys in shambles over tcgplayer plug since they didn’t sponsor it instead lol.

    • @MengusWorkshop
      @MengusWorkshop  6 місяців тому +1

      I ll go to cardmarket office thursday for more veedeos!

  • @DrGabrieleBenedetti
    @DrGabrieleBenedetti 5 місяців тому +4

    Hello Andrea! I just subscribed your channel!

  • @kazekage_gaara_-8027
    @kazekage_gaara_-8027 6 місяців тому +15

    Cool to see you supporting the format, looking forward to more gameplay especially if there's Dreadnaughts.

  • @joshvon8495
    @joshvon8495 6 місяців тому +10

    I’ve been really wanting to try premodern! Especially since I can’t afford a lot of legacy and vintage decks lol

  • @mstSean
    @mstSean 6 місяців тому +8

    Man this takes me back. My first PTQ T8 was with RB goblins in Extended with Piledriver and Ringleader.

  • @dreadfl
    @dreadfl 6 місяців тому +13

    thank you for making high-quality premodern content, it really is the best format in magic right now. i'm looking forward to playing an 8-round premodern event at lobstercon later this year!

    • @MengusWorkshop
      @MengusWorkshop  6 місяців тому +2

      when is that? and where? :D

    • @dreadfl
      @dreadfl 6 місяців тому +3

      @@MengusWorkshop it will be september 20 in boston. last year they had 186 players for the north american premodern championship on day 1 and 196 players for the old school main event on day 2.

  • @MrPlow-jc4cr
    @MrPlow-jc4cr 6 місяців тому +7

    Cradle is legal in premodern? O_O

  • @two_stdev
    @two_stdev 6 місяців тому +8

    looking forward to more premodern content!

  • @miyomiyo1050
    @miyomiyo1050 6 місяців тому +7

    Would love to see more premodern! I don't know the top decks at all but it reminds me of the kind of magic i grew up playing

  • @panchi7o
    @panchi7o 6 місяців тому +6

    Premodern!!🎉🎉

  • @hansoskar1911
    @hansoskar1911 6 місяців тому +4

    a bit of a technicallity but at 20:35 IIRC you chose the creature type on resolution so Mengu can call Elves after all the squirrles died.
    not that it matters terribly much in that situation.

  • @BigHit9922
    @BigHit9922 6 місяців тому +2

    Nice! I hope this format gets big without the involvement of WOTC’s financial incentive

  • @LittleMushroomGuy
    @LittleMushroomGuy 4 місяці тому +2

    Always funny how Mengu gets sponsored by TCGPlayer whos the biggest US market, but not by the two biggest European markets/traders

    • @MengusWorkshop
      @MengusWorkshop  4 місяці тому +1

      My biggest audience is United States :)

  • @marxmeesterlijk
    @marxmeesterlijk 6 місяців тому +2

    Another format where I can lose with Elves. :P

  • @Amazonian
    @Amazonian 6 місяців тому +3

    I hope you'll come to Lobstercon this year to play some Premodern! I live nearby and you're welcome to stay at my apartment.

    • @SilaYoga
      @SilaYoga 6 місяців тому

      I can’t wait for LobsterCon!

  • @goatSCool
    @goatSCool 6 місяців тому +4

    Awesome content! We definately need more Premodern on your channel! maybe Oath Ponza or The Rock next time?

  • @creamabdul-jabbar
    @creamabdul-jabbar 6 місяців тому +2

    deranged hermit is so cool

  • @JazzKaioshin
    @JazzKaioshin 4 місяці тому +2

    Amazing gameplay, so cool to see cards from this era in a unique format with its own identity. Seeing this matchup reminded me of the original Elves v. Goblins duel deck precon, I was wondering if Ambush Commander is still playable in the Elf deck but it would be TERRIBLE against Goblin Sharpshooter lol. Keep making awesome content like this Mengu!

  • @BenziTrain
    @BenziTrain 3 місяці тому +1

    I've never thought about using survival to thin like that. awesome!!!

  • @coolbyrne
    @coolbyrne 2 місяці тому +1

    Elves were my first tribal deck. :) I will say, I miss the days of mana burn. Seeing players being able to leave floating mana without penalty will never not be weird to me!

  • @SimonKlimekNetwork
    @SimonKlimekNetwork 2 місяці тому +1

    I want to see next OG ZOMBIE DECK with Undead Warchief and Zombie Lord :)

  • @jeremiahattento
    @jeremiahattento 5 місяців тому +1

    Awesome video, and I hope to see more from you guys.
    Also, I wish you can do paper gameplay of decks featured in the manga “Destroy All of Humanity. It Can’t Be Regenerated.” Give or take a few banned cards, all of the decks featured in there can be played in Premodern. :)

  • @awxangel6781
    @awxangel6781 6 місяців тому +1

    Would Mengucci letting the masticore die and getting a Caller of the Claw +2 be a good option? The squee keeps coming back to grab more masticores with survival anyway, and a pile of 2/2s doesn't seem awful.
    Also decks to see would be some variant of Madness!

  • @8Smoker8
    @8Smoker8 5 місяців тому +1

    Don't be so afraid of Caller of the Claw with Sharpshooter + Siege Gang ^^' you can easily take off 2/2s as well and then you pretty much can't lose.

  • @tmon3y777
    @tmon3y777 4 місяці тому +1

    I played MTG back around Ice Age to just after Tempest block back in the day, this might be the format for me.

  • @alesseidler1770
    @alesseidler1770 6 місяців тому +1

    Amazing matches, but indeed when goblins have the nuts lackey OTP draw, kinda breaking all the rules :D

  • @racoonnewsnetwork8147
    @racoonnewsnetwork8147 4 місяці тому +1

    Not had much time to watch UA-cam recently and its very exciting to get to see y'all have a new veedeo! Thanks for the content ❤

  • @alfredofranceschini5606
    @alfredofranceschini5606 6 місяців тому +1

    Siiiiiiii Tommi and Goblin winning sound amazing!! ❤❤❤ But Mengu you forgot the beautiful goblin tokens 😢

  • @matiasguillodes5966
    @matiasguillodes5966 4 місяці тому +1

    G1. Tommy sac two Mogg Fanatic before attack and lose 4 power for Piledriver