Turn 0 save if you want to play along: marbozir.com/civ5saves/persia-lp.zip If you use it - *do not post spoilers in the comments* (and by spoilers I mean locations of things on the map, etc.).
Good start. I would settle the coast where you were thinking. It is also less aggressive toward the Dutch than settling closer to their city (and as you mention better for trading). In addition, I would build another settler ASAP (delay the library) and settle on the desert hill/river/mountain directly to the east as it has 2 silver, iron, cattle and horses in range (plus observatory). It could be an excellent production city. Getting that 3rd city up fast will mean a faster NC.
This game reminds me of Marb's Japan Diety LP. William was near, he had a couple of wonders, and his cities were tasteful. And Marbozir brought liberty to Amsterdam :D
CruzaComplex They can only get one from liberty, and it isn't completely free because it increases the cost of the next one. Maybe later in the game if they had a bunch of puppeted city-states it could be worth it. But the AI sucks at Venice.
I love the map generation in civ. One game I was on some weird shuriken shaped continent, and the other one was an exact copy of Africa. :p Continents plus does take tectonics into consideration, but it's so annoying how civs are closer to you and city states are farther away.
With your coastal city you could eventually citadel bomb the city state for furs and more fish. It will be a great food city, bit like a saguntum from last game :)
If you were looking for a lot of faith i think the +1 from desert tiles would have been a better choice in terms of pantheons but the extra culutre from the silver and gold in the early game is always a nice boost.
The tundra tile directly to the north of the silver is a better city location than the plains since you would lose less tiles to the city state. The only downfall is having to buy 2 tiles instead of 1 but overall it'd be a better city (you could also work the deer)
I feel like a better second city location would be the tundra tile south because your land would be less taken up by the city state and you would get an additional deer resource without really sacrificing anything.
When the time comes, you should ally with the city-state and get some minutemen. If I don't remember it wrong, you do actually get golden age points from fighting with minutemen. I don't think I need to say why golden ages are important when you're playing as Persia.
If William's AI is smart, that area with all the marsh tiles between La Venta and Buenos Area on the coast will make a massively powerful city when he gets polders. I find that the AI usually won't wait to improve tiles like that and will just remove a terrain that would later be more beneficial. Still. That many polders will be terrifying mid-game.
Immortals are fairly useless on deity to be honest, mostly because there isn't any real window of opportunity to use them. AI will get pikemen, swordsmen and composite bowmen *very* fast on deity.
Marbozir They are decent if you plan to have an early war with pikemen plus comp bows or xbows as the pikemen retain the Immortal healing bonus. They can be beastly if you time your attack with a Golden Age. But highly situational as early wars aren't that great in BNW. Can't do the Immortal rush anymore like you could in vanilla (go Honor and build 6-8 Immortals, use the free GG from Honor to pop a GA and attack your neighbor - fun times).
love persia, first time played em had a nonstop golden age from 1700s to end game well it was on warlord, hey i just started game :P And why is it if i watch a lets play civ5 theres natural wonders allover the place on starting location and in my games theres never any
I'm somewhat new to civ and I rarely if ever see you build wonders. When I play I tend to try and get as much as I can. Is that just a waste of my time?
Damn it. People just want to see you win. I know you are playing the game that won the poll, but i wanted you to have a challange! You will just stomp the ai like this.
He lost twice before the Carthage 'OP' LP. So yeah, everyone wants a good war and a thrashing win. Deity is always a challenge especially for Immortal level players like me. So personally speaking I would like to see him stomp the AIs this time. :)
Hey there Marbo. Is there a reason you play at lower speeds like Epic or Marathon or is that merely just for personal taste (IE are there advantages/disadvantages to speed changes or does it offer additional challenge?)
river vs 3 fish.... in terms of food, the river city might win if you have civil service. also the river city could have an observatory? (i count 7 freshwater tiles due to sharing with capital.... if you weren't sharing, there would be more still)
i know i seen u win domination/science victories on diety. but it it possible to win diplomatic/cultural victories on diety? i know time victories are probably nearly impossible with the wonders they spam and the massive empires they have.
If you play aggressively, you can just get a big enough advantage, cripple any AI's that would possibly be able to compete with you and then win any victory condition you want. If you don't play aggressively, you can do it too, but turtling is just kinda boring in my opinion.
marbozir in the next lets play of civ v you should include a moded civilization from pouakai on steam workshop because i surely believe we all are bored of the same civilizations on and on and on.....it would bring a new flavour to civs gameplay :new UA,new UU and new UB if you read this pls take into consideration what i propose to you and i would be very gratefull for that thx
I'd say its not the best start, not much lux res diversity you got. I vote for settling the tile you wanted, to get nat wonder cheaper and also have 2 river tiles in range of that city, deer not that good and you will have to wait a lot( or waste a lot of money) before you get that deer tile (and also more money to buy wonder tiles). Also try settling 3rd city asap to secure incense, west city would actually benefit you quite a lot cause it will be a good city for ais to do trade-route thingy with you, and thats basically free money and beakers. XD
there's a let's play on youtube where someone plaay shaka and he sells his embassy for everyone he meets for extra money per turn early game... i'm so confused now...
Because food counts towards production when building settlers and sometimes a 3 food tile will give you more hammers when building settlers than a 1 or 2 hammer tile.
For me, I find Pocatello is the most annoying, because he just spams cities everywhere. He's especially annoying because of his border growth. I'm sure this will feature later on.
What? I played a grand total of ONE game on pangaea since Brave New World release (over half year ago - in september 2013). I have no idea where you're getting that from.
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Your reaction to Ramkhamhaeng was hilarious.
I guess I'm pretty randomly asking but do anyone know of a good site to watch newly released tv shows online?
Turn 0 save if you want to play along: marbozir.com/civ5saves/persia-lp.zip
If you use it - *do not post spoilers in the comments* (and by spoilers I mean locations of things on the map, etc.).
why I can't load the save I installed both mods you gave ! it says some DLC are required
VDomas you additionally need the gods & kings and brave new world expansions to run properly
lol Venice went liberty fail ai at its finest
well, liberty gets him a free merchant of venice, and hence a free puppet, but other than that its not much
no its not free he gets a merchant of Venice its not free it makes all other merchants of Venice cost more and great scientists and engineers
Christmas came early this year. My body is ready.
Rewatching my favourite series of yours
Thanks Marbs. Persia is my favorite civ in civ V. :)
I just recently started watching your videos and I love the way you commentate and play! I laughed so hard at your reaction to Siam, it's so true!
Good start. I would settle the coast where you were thinking. It is also less aggressive toward the Dutch than settling closer to their city (and as you mention better for trading). In addition, I would build another settler ASAP (delay the library) and settle on the desert hill/river/mountain directly to the east as it has 2 silver, iron, cattle and horses in range (plus observatory). It could be an excellent production city. Getting that 3rd city up fast will mean a faster NC.
Ivan Dogovich I agree with Doc too. The third city though will sour relations with dirtbag Askia for sure. :)
Go coastal but one down to the right because deer are amazing tiles
Hari Sankar I don't think it's that aggressive toward Askia. Plus it's defensible.
yeah, I checked it now. I thought that Askia had his second city close by to the Beringer Crater. My bad. :)
If we're thinking about the same location (desert hill next to river/mountain?), then I can't settle there because it's too close to Yerevan.
When you finally noticed the 3 fish spot I was so happy. I love sea resources.
hey marks, 9 years later I am starting this series! such a fun start with ramkamtrollface!
This game reminds me of Marb's Japan Diety LP. William was near, he had a couple of wonders, and his cities were tasteful. And Marbozir brought liberty to Amsterdam :D
Wait...that was Morocco, not Japan... :P
"I hate this passive aggressive douchebag" AAAHHHAHAHA xD so glad I found the channel through your collab with Quill18 :)
Watched theses with my dad growing up, rewatching for nostalgia lol
Venice went Liberty? lol
CruzaComplex
They can only get one from liberty, and it isn't completely free because it increases the cost of the next one. Maybe later in the game if they had a bunch of puppeted city-states it could be worth it. But the AI sucks at Venice.
***** Don't they get one instead of a settler, and then one more as the great person of choice?
Zen
I thought they still got nothing from it. I could be wrong though. Even if they did, I still don't think the AI Venice should ever go Liberty.
In the end of completing he has 2 merchants of venice.
if you start the city 1 south on the tundra you can get the camp in range plus make a worthless tile usable.
I love the map generation in civ. One game I was on some weird shuriken shaped continent, and the other one was an exact copy of Africa. :p
Continents plus does take tectonics into consideration, but it's so annoying how civs are closer to you and city states are farther away.
After rewatching your japan and germany game, Im now rewatching persia. I hope one day you do a civ v with the modes french civ (emperial french)
Regarding a coastal city, I'd advise putting it one tile South of where you planned it so that you'd also get a deer.
Why William didn't settle near those marshes is unbelievable. Suppose AI only values crappy location, just to get their hands on 1 luxury.
The rivers on either side of Persepolis look like the Tigris-Euphrates to me
I hope on your next poll you get Venice. I'm really eager to watch you slaughter the AI on what is essentially a one city challenge.
I always like to add Darius just to hear his amazing declaration of war.
With your coastal city you could eventually citadel bomb the city state for furs and more fish. It will be a great food city, bit like a saguntum from last game :)
If you were looking for a lot of faith i think the +1 from desert tiles would have been a better choice in terms of pantheons but the extra culutre from the silver and gold in the early game is always a nice boost.
The tundra tile directly to the north of the silver is a better city location than the plains since you would lose less tiles to the city state. The only downfall is having to buy 2 tiles instead of 1 but overall it'd be a better city (you could also work the deer)
Ramkhamhaeng is the guy who moves in and doesn't pay rent or utilities but wants you to take them everywhere and asks you to keep it down at night.
Great. I love to play Darius!
I feel like a better second city location would be the tundra tile south because your land would be less taken up by the city state and you would get an additional deer resource without really sacrificing anything.
except being an extra tile away from the wonder and risk losing it to the city state.
When the time comes, you should ally with the city-state and get some minutemen. If I don't remember it wrong, you do actually get golden age points from fighting with minutemen. I don't think I need to say why golden ages are important when you're playing as Persia.
Yea and they get no terrain cost as well as need one promo for siege.
Latter on you can use a GG on the hill tile east of Prague, and steal the fish and furs tiles for your 2nd city.
If William's AI is smart, that area with all the marsh tiles between La Venta and Buenos Area on the coast will make a massively powerful city when he gets polders. I find that the AI usually won't wait to improve tiles like that and will just remove a terrain that would later be more beneficial.
Still. That many polders will be terrifying mid-game.
Your Start is Really OP, all of that Gold and Silver will allow for a lot of Immortals.
Also more money from Satrap's Courts and Golden Ages, Damn this is a Good Start.
Immortals are fairly useless on deity to be honest, mostly because there isn't any real window of opportunity to use them. AI will get pikemen, swordsmen and composite bowmen *very* fast on deity.
Marbozir They are decent if you plan to have an early war with pikemen plus comp bows or xbows as the pikemen retain the Immortal healing bonus. They can be beastly if you time your attack with a Golden Age. But highly situational as early wars aren't that great in BNW. Can't do the Immortal rush anymore like you could in vanilla (go Honor and build 6-8 Immortals, use the free GG from Honor to pop a GA and attack your neighbor - fun times).
your accent is identical to the hilarious actor named sacha cohen!
looks good
yooo there was a crab down south in the ice, just letting you know
love persia, first time played em had a nonstop golden age from 1700s to end game
well it was on warlord, hey i just started game :P
And why is it if i watch a lets play civ5 theres natural wonders allover the place on starting location and in my games theres never any
will you ever play don't starve gain?
WE NEED NAPOLEON NEXT WITH THAT SAME DONUTS MAP
I'm somewhat new to civ and I rarely if ever see you build wonders. When I play I tend to try and get as much as I can. Is that just a waste of my time?
ooohh thank the gods you read comments marb else i would have serious ocd problems then if you didn't move your settler.
settle the location on the tundra to get the deer instead of settling on the plains
I dunno why, but i kinda like your accent
Ramkam troll face is your neighbor. This should be interesting
Damn it. People just want to see you win. I know you are playing the game that won the poll, but i wanted you to have a challange!
You will just stomp the ai like this.
He lost twice before the Carthage 'OP' LP. So yeah, everyone wants a good war and a thrashing win. Deity is always a challenge especially for Immortal level players like me. So personally speaking I would like to see him stomp the AIs this time. :)
Hey there Marbo. Is there a reason you play at lower speeds like Epic or Marathon or is that merely just for personal taste (IE are there advantages/disadvantages to speed changes or does it offer additional challenge?)
river vs 3 fish.... in terms of food, the river city might win if you have civil service. also the river city could have an observatory? (i count 7 freshwater tiles due to sharing with capital.... if you weren't sharing, there would be more still)
You should try Diety on Quick mode >:)
The minutemen would work so well with persia here, seeing as they earn golden age points for kills.
i know i seen u win domination/science victories on diety. but it it possible to win diplomatic/cultural victories on diety? i know time victories are probably nearly impossible with the wonders they spam and the massive empires they have.
If you play aggressively, you can just get a big enough advantage, cripple any AI's that would possibly be able to compete with you and then win any victory condition you want. If you don't play aggressively, you can do it too, but turtling is just kinda boring in my opinion.
Was Valleta getting razed?
What is the mod with the civilizations & CS on the right side?
Does anyone else click on the screen and drag when watching? To take a closer look at the map?(assuming you have that option enabled)
Shouldn't you have recieved 8 faith at 7:06 from the city state?
No the city state was already discovered and if you encounter an already discovered city state youll only gain half of what they
marbozir in the next lets play of civ v you should include a moded civilization from pouakai on steam workshop because i surely believe we all are bored of the same civilizations on and on and on.....it would bring a new flavour to civs gameplay :new UA,new UU and new UB if you read this pls take into consideration what i propose to you and i would be very gratefull for that thx
Finally!
Yes
I fucking love your laugh
So much orange, red and, yellow civs
i can't understand why you want to setzle the city next to the cattle it just has very much good and nothing else
I'd say its not the best start, not much lux res diversity you got. I vote for settling the tile you wanted, to get nat wonder cheaper and also have 2 river tiles in range of that city, deer not that good and you will have to wait a lot( or waste a lot of money) before you get that deer tile (and also more money to buy wonder tiles). Also try settling 3rd city asap to secure incense, west city would actually benefit you quite a lot cause it will be a good city for ais to do trade-route thingy with you, and thats basically free money and beakers. XD
Love PERSIA
there's a let's play on youtube where someone plaay shaka and he sells his embassy for everyone he meets for extra money per turn early game...
i'm so confused now...
Why would you work food only tiles while building a settler?
Because food counts towards production when building settlers and sometimes a 3 food tile will give you more hammers when building settlers than a 1 or 2 hammer tile.
In The Beginning...
For me, I find Pocatello is the most annoying, because he just spams cities everywhere. He's especially annoying because of his border growth. I'm sure this will feature later on.
im not to sure but wouldn't desert folklore have been better ???
No, he will be working gold and silver more than the desert, and he only has 2 or 3 desert tiles up north
treethreethree
flood plains count as deserts though (so the wheat and all the flood plains all give 1 faith)
treethreethree no he has 7 good tiles that are desert because of the river and the wheat !!!
robidoke thanks for the support ... you're a good guy !!!
a little more faith is less important than nearly the same amount of faith plus culture....
I always thought you couldn't get faith from ruins before like turn 40 or 50. I Maybe I'm just unlucky though xD.
Turn 20.
Bad blood between Rammy and Marbozir.
Why not forward settle to the location you wanted and bribe raekhaemburg to war with askia. You are killing two birds with 1 stone.
A shame you weren't the Netherlands. Just look at all those flood plains and marshes
take prague early and settle next to the wonder north east...
Never capture city states. You will get intsa-dowed by everyone.
Wouldn't desert folklore be better look at all those desert or are they plains
nah the culture was pretty important
So basically Siam is Marbozir's favorite civ.
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Same here, I FUCKING hate Ramkhasomething.
It's a shame people voted the same old boring map type....
What? I played a grand total of ONE game on pangaea since Brave New World release (over half year ago - in september 2013). I have no idea where you're getting that from.
Marbozir I'm not trolling or anything,i was just saying that the france game would be much more intersting,
***** Naa.. Persia LP for BNW is kindof rare. Napolean is such a popular choice for most Deity LPlayers.
"I hate this passive aggressive douchebag" AAAHHHAHAHA xD so glad I found the channel through your collab with Quill18 :)