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I have taken Tai Chi Twon, Shaolin, Go Jo Rue, and Tang Su Do, and also Russian martial arts. I prefer Tai Chi Twon, and Shaolin, and Russian martial arts. I also prefer Russian martial arts because the Russians don't make anything elaborate. they are quick and to the point, and that is what you need in martial arts. What a lot of people don't realize is that martial arts does not mean a fighting art. Tai Chi Twon and Shaolin rely on a lot of breathing, and I think that this is very important. When you breath properly you prevent injuries, especially internal injuries. You also have more power. There is also Tai Chi Twon competition. I also would not advise anybody to call a Tai Chi Twon master or practitioner a pussy, because if you do, you will probably find yourself on the floor very fast, and you will be in a lot of pain. You don't need a lot of power to hurt someone and do some damage. In one Go Jo rue class that I took my instructor used me to show the rest of the class the proper placement for a snap kick. He kicked me with a snap kick very slowly in the middle of my left thigh. He barely touched me, and I collapsed. My leg from my toes up to my thigh went completely numb. I fell to the floor, and had to crawl to the side of the training area. I could not participate for the rest of the class. I couldn't stand up. It was as if my instructor literally put my leg to sleep. some people don't think that there is such a thing as dim mack, well there is. I think that is what I experienced here. I would actually take my left fist and hit my left thigh area several times. My leg would seem to start to wake up, only to fall back to sleep. After the class I had to limp out of the dojo. So please people, do not think that Go Jo Rue (which means soft then hard), Tai Chi Twon, and Shaolin are wimpy, because they are not.
If you look up the history of Asian martial arts you are likely to find that they developed first in what is now China , migrated throughout Asia , with each region selecting & developing the parts to git their needs . That's why parts Chinese martial arts can be found in ones developed in other parts of Asia. They, though distantly are all related . Look it up !
When I was training TKD, I studied some Tai Chi when I was 17 years old. I found Tai Chi accelerated all of my training as it improved my balanced from having to keep balance while moving slowly, instead of quick movements. I started practicing several TKD kicks slowly to improve my balance. Also helped with my thought processing of what I was doing. And once I switched to a freestyle, I found adding Tai Chi techniques improved my blocking and diverting the energy of the opponent's attack.
@@stevedallas6122 Its a bit more complicated than just that. When you do a movement slowly, you are forced under Strain, to develop strength all along the entire path of the movement. You also build up superconscious levels of awareness as well, as your mind is forced to "Listen" to every little detail, as it slowly unfolds. In addition to this, Tai Chi adds specialized deep breathing with the slow and relaxed movements. This causes the muscles and tissues, to develop in a different way. You get super-strong yet very elastic tendons, and tissue / muscles that hold more oxygen and have far increased levels of circulation paths. It makes for an Iron-Body effect, where as the body sort of expands with blood, forming a shielding effect... as well as some other attributes. (water does not compress) The slow movements can also form a Meditation state in the mind. If you do enough 1hr sessions, every other day... for like 3 to 6 months... your brain permanently changes. Meditation caused the brain to grow in connections and density (recently proven in before and after MRI brain-scans). Eventually you reach Quiet-Mind state, in which your mind is nearly or completely Silent. Free of distractions, permanently. Its one of the Greatest things you can do, to increase the quality of your life. It also allows you to learn new things, at like 3x the pace.
I studied kuksool in highschool. It included tumbling and I couldn't do it. So I joined a gymnastics class and they focused on doing movements slowly with a focus on flexibility and core strength. After several months, I was able to do the tumbling better. There is definitely something to be said for slowing things down.
I'm a muay thai guy but I love studying other styles to learn principles I can apply to what I already do or have been working on, one of my team mates has wing Chung and escrima experience and also activly trains HEMA and when we spar I see the wing Chung at work with the parrys and forearm blocks he uses to shut down my pressure boxing.
Sometimes it's easy to forget that all of these styles have something at their core that made them effective for the people who originally used them. I would argue that the biggest issue CMA has nowadays is that most of the instructors don't know how to actually fight with their art, having gone multiple generations without the need for the head instructor to actually fight. With an instructor who actually knows how to fight with the art they teach, or else with a solid grounding in fighting from practising an art like boxing, muay thai, or karate, it's going to be much simpler to find which parts work for you and how best to apply them. Tai chi chuan has unfortunately picked up a great deal of mysticism (and later pseudo-scientific concepts like chi being "bioelectricity") along the way, but originally it was a long fist style, quite similar to arts like karate and muay thai, with an added emphasis on dispersing and generating power using little used muscles in the body.
@@metalfan4u I'm the same way, with adapting moves from various martial arts to suit my needs; sort of that whole Jeet Kun Do mindset. Anyways, I had a friend years back who was into traditional Wing Chun, and he tried to show me a bit, but I found it was too boxy, close-up, and rigid to be used as a primary martial art. Like you said, applying the guards and breaks from it could certainly be beneficial, but I never found it as effective at defending as intended; I broke or slipped his guard pretty often just by baiting and then counter-attacking when he committed. What's your overall take on Wing Chun, and do you think someone focused on keeping an opponent at range would benefit much from that sort of grappling, or would more of a TKD approach be good enough?
Thanks for making these videos! I keep telling my fellow Shotokan practitioners about Tai Chi and how it actually compliments our art. Both arts can benefit from the other. I would love to see more cooperation between them.
The difficulty in Tai Chi is combat application of its moves. Most moves have several applications, but they are hard to find unless shown to you. For example, you never just stand around in horse stance -- your opponent will angle in and you won't be able to face them, or your opponent will just sweep your front leg. You drop into a horse stance quickly, throw that block which is meant to blunt the force of a mid-height kick to the ribs or groin, immediately turn into bow stance and punch as a counter. You reach for extra range with the punch because it is a counter to a kick, and you need to sink that punch into the opponent's body. Something was missing from what she showed you, I think? After the punch, I learned to turn the other direction -- this isn't just to repeat the exercise in a small space, but because after your counter you might want to get immediately out of range again to reset. The movement when done as fast as possible looks like you are ramming your arm and shoulder into a kick that hasn't quite extended yet, to blunt it. As soon as you blunt the kick, the impact force of it into you helps you rotate your torso into the counter-punch. Then you either step into the reeling opponent or step out to avoid being hit by something yourself. It all happens in about 1 second, in real time. You practice slowly to build up the needed muscles, then practice quickly once they are strong.
3:16 Wow. To see a Tai Chi Practitioner doing those types of stretching Wushu kicks is impressive. I have never seen anyone in Tai Chi do this before. But you said she also does Changquan which is the chinese way of saying Long Fist and is one of the three types of Wushu competition (Changquan, Nanquan and Sanshou/Sanda (full contact sparring))
Most people dont understand what Tai Chi is😭 Tai Chi is grappling and wrestling at the same Time, even Changquan is wrestling but IT Also has some strikes and blocks or grabs. Some moves in forms come from the use of weapons.
I'm no expert, having maybe gotten only half-way to a black belt; but I also do the Chin Man Ching short form. I think Tai Chi has a LOT to offer karate. I decided that a mix of Karate, Gracie Ju Jitsu and Tai Chi might make a formidable combination. You point out that the releasing of the punch is like Okinawan Karate; which was my thought. You said using that technique, you were able to punch twice as hard. There was an American series titled "Fight Science"; in which, among other things, they tested the ability of all styles to punch with the most power they could. I saw an episode in which the winner (at least at that point) was a practitioner of Ninjitsu. However, the punch technique he used to win was a Tai Chi punch utilizing Fa Jing. Furthermore, I read the Tai Chi classics; and one maxim was "When you opponent attacks, you cannot be found. When you attack, there is nowhere to run." I tried that in sparring, with dramatic success. A black-belt kept winding up to do a spin kick, but when he backed up, I advanced on him, and not seeing a better target, I pushed him with a mae geri on the hips, and he wound up in a pile on the floor. This repeated two more times. So, while most of what I was doing was karate, it seemed my opponents had no idea what was going on when I threw in a little Tai Chi. Some tips about a Tai Chi punch in practice: It can be a very short punch, even one inch, but it sort of wells up from the Dan Tian, and ripples through the body. Only when you strike do you tighten the fist, and then you immediately withdraw it and relax it, so as to decrease injury to yourself. As in Karate, in actual use, you don't just put it out there and hold it. The Okinawan Karate has you turn your torso at 45 degrees, so as to extend reach. Tai Chi seems to have the idea of making your opponent commit, and then attacking. It doesn't seem to care what the attitude of the body is, so long as the head and torso are bolt upright, and you are relaxed before and after the punch, but focus your energy on it when you strike.
Humbly: A recent important discovery of mine with the power of Tai Chi (among other Neijiaquan), is the importance of standing practice - In Tai Chi, it would be "Wuji" posture. It's difficult to keep this short, but I'll try: With External arts, what you see is what you get. It seems powerful because it looks powerful, and most people have seen "powerful". The power of Internal arts is not evident in the physical movement (especially in the forms), which is why it is misunderstood- you will only know the truth of Internal power from experiencing it (which only makes sense- Martial Arts is experienced through the sense of touch, not sight.. people seem to forget this). It is many consecutive days and countless collective hours of standing in Wuji or Zhan Zhuang (Cheng Bao, "embracing tree") posture that trains the Internal arts practitioner to rely less on isolated muscular tension and specific physical structure, and instead the freedom afforded by the whole-body tensegrity of fascial tissues. Tai Chi will always "look weak" to the uninitiated, watching from the outside in.. What is unseen is occurring within the practitioner's mind and body- the yi leading the qi; the qi moving the body. On the outside, a neophyte and (actual) master (not the charlatans drunk on their own Kool-Aid getting pummeled by the Xu Xiaodongs of the world) may appear the same... But what is occurring inside is the difference between defeat and victory. Thanks for reading 🙏🏼 Happy training.
I tried TKD as 11 years old. Sparred adult black belts. Tried Tai Chi. He saw the hip lift of the roundhouse kick intantly. Took me down in an instant, but with him on bottom so he
Fascinating project! I am a Tai Chi teacher myself and recently started practicing some Ninpo and I also find that Tai Chi has given me a very useful foundation for the softer Japanese martial arts. Body shape, footwork and the correct relaxation all come very naturally. I think it's great to look at these exercises and consider how they benefit your art. I would like to point out though that the way your Changquan teacher moves and overextends her shoulder is not actually how a Tai Chi practitioner would approach fighting. It's just a way of improving your agility and body integration.
As long as we are clear about the goal of our training there is no problem. You seem to be right that Chang Quan is more an aesthetic performance art rather than a combat art. Nothing wrong as long as we are clear why we are performing it. It can however improve your flexibility and mobility and thus prepare the ground for harder combat oriented martial arts and eventually self- defence training!!
I often find myself having to explain to modern people that Traditional martial arts systems have "Internal-Martial-Arts" as well as "External-Martial-Arts". I explain that QiGong and Tai-Chi are Internal-Martial-Arts. They are not exactly designed for combat. But Learning Internal Martials Arts, helps develop certain skills like improved Balance and Mobility, which in turn improves your skills in Combative Martial arts styles. For comparison I explain that USA Football Players train in Ballet Dancing, because it helps develop certain skills that improves their performance on the field. For instance Ballet strengthens the legs, knees, and ankles, increases mobility and speed. and it also increases balance, all of these added benefits helps players avoid injuries in the sport. Tai-Chi is allot like that when its methods are applied to any other martial art.
The kanji 长拳 means "long fist". The whole idea is to extend your body as much as possible to create momentum and power. It's actually quite similar to Aikido in concept, but different in expression and application.
These low stances are great for exercise but have little practical value for modern self defence. Stances all depend on the terrain. When fighting on a steep mountainside, its necessary to use a low stance like the Ninja, Shaolin masters and the old Okinawan masters. On the street, a normal stance is the most appropriate.
I find it a bit amusing, I do ballroom dance, and one of the things that was mentioned is keeping your shoulders down when punching far away, in the ballroom position, you have your elbows in a straight line but you have to keep your shoulders down in order for the frame to work well
Interesting enough later in life the late Hirokazu Kanazawa, also included T'ai chi ch'üan in his training. I believe that the Chinese MMA fighter(or one of them) had a video explaining why he is doing matches because the guys he were fighting were making outlandish claims. & some people started resharing without the context of the whole situation. However like how people misunderstood Karate in USA due to what they’ve seen in the movies & what we call open tournaments, the similar misconceptions appear to be occurring with Tai chi. So until someone comes along that figures a way how to incorporate Tai chi into competing in a MMA setting a lot of those negative viewpoints of it are going to continue.
I suggest you look into the differences between traditional tajiquan/gongfu and competition (form) based taiji/kungfu, which seems to have a lot in common with modern wushu. The traditonal way has a lot of depth to it, in a broad way but also in a martial way.
Heres the thing. There is what we call "park" tai chi. That is the type you see commonly practised in parks all over the world. There are differet styles from Chen to Yang to Wu and Hu and each of these have different incarnations and movements. But the point is that most are practised in parks and the practise is aimed at health and is an exercise. It is slow moving and soft. It can have internal benefits when practised correctly and with good instruction. There is also combat tai chi. That is the original intent of taic chi chuan or taijijuan. This is an aggressive, fast and totally martial art. Yes the movements are practised slowly to achieve strength, cultivate energy and develop stamina as well as maintaining good health. But this is not "park" tai chi. Combat tai chi is rarely seen by the general public. Anyone coming up against a true combat trained taichi player will be in for a world of hurt. The styles taught in the original Chen style or the original Yang style where used for fighting and self defense. They rely on aggression , fast strikes, powerful movements and so forth.
1) Pronunciation: changquan is correctly pronounced as "chahng-chwen." 2) Changquan is a different martial art from taijiquan. (Technically, changquan is more a category of traditional Chinese martial art, including styles like chaquan, huaquan, etc.) These days it is more famous as "movie kungfu" due to Jet Li, etc. 3) Changquan is not normally practiced as a prerequisite for taijiquan, except in the modern competition wushu schools (where Jet Li, etc. came from), where changquan is the "base" for everything else.
The problem with Tai Chi is that it had lost its martial application long time ago. I've read one guy's story about his travels to Chen village and how nothing was there to even remind the world about the supposed birthplace of Tai Chi. For health purposes it is probably great, but for martial aspects, it just doesn't cut it. I'd opt for anything Hakka based (Southern styles) rather than this. Tai Chi as it is now, has definitively nothing on Goju-ryu or Uechi-ryu.
Everyone asks the wrong question about Tai Chi. It shouldn’t be “Is Tai Chi best for helping you win a fight?” The correct question is “Will Tai Chi help you defend your body from aging, immobility, falling, and leave you better prepared to repel an attacker?” The answer to question 1 is no. The answer to question 2 is yes!
As a guy who has went through quite some historical material on Chinese martial arts , I've come to the conclusion that a lot of tai chi's teachings were lost , and that practitioners cannot understand the true meaning behind these movements without already knowing how to fight .
I think it is all of our responsibility to be honest and just agree that Tai Chi is not for fighting. If we are already a fighter then we can benefit and even use Tai Chi principles but if we are just an average guy with no experience who decides to learn Tai Chi we will not be able to use it to defend ourselves effectively. Physical and Mental Health 10/10, Defensive capability 1/10. Clearly very good for flexibility. I would say it has more benefits than Yoga.
By fighting I meant also Self Defence. Tai Chi is only Self Defence if the Tai Chi practitioner understands hard combat. Without combative training the principles of Tai Chi will not work for Self Defense. Let's just agree to disagree. Tai Chi like anything has its merits.
The circularic kick when slappin it is known as the crescent kick.Her version of Tai Chi Chuan is not well performed. Tai Chi Chuan is extremely delicate; but, powerfull. It is similar to Kundalini Yoga in power levels.
tai chi is for health....tai chi " chuan " is for self defense and is originally a combat system that developed fa jing internal striking . The concept of iron wrapped in cotton ,
It is all up to the practitioner of the art. How good he or she is makes all the difference. It is not the style. I have briefly studied different styles, though my focus has always been on Tae Kwon Do. The practitioners of Hapkido looked very versatile. Having said that, it is all about speed, timing, and accuracy. In real life, it matters who hits whom first accurately. Short of being a Shaolin master, most arts as Bruce said have weaknesses and strengths. You need to choose an art based on your taste and the shape of your body. Read what Chuck Norris says about that.
I suspect that the topic of Tai Chi in this video is unintentionally geared towards Wushu Performance instead of martial art. Historically and traditionally in the family lines of Taijiquan, people do not practice Changquan before learning Taijiquan. So, it's rather confusing how everything in this video is labeled as Changquan but called Tai Chi. They're not the same thing. I suspect the idea of learning Changquan before learning Tai Chi most likely comes from the Wushu Performance sector where their main objective is aesthetics at the cost of functionality. That's not a criticism or a mistake. That's intentional. They perform these flashy movements for aesthetics, and even the choreography are often non-traditional.
But more often than not in the USA if someone is training Tai Chi seriously it is along with other Kung Fu styles, maybe most commonly Choy Li Fut which has very long movements at the beginner level like these, and Choy Li Fut is most certainly not decorative.
To be fair the tai chi that exists now days is actually a modernised version refined by Qijiguang in the Ming dynasty, I believe the bulk of that ‘refinement’ came from Chang Quan, especially its outer form
@@georgewang4276 Well, if you fast forward time a bit to the 17th century, you might hear that Chen Wangting, accredited to be the founder of Taijiquan, actually combined 7 different sets of ancestral Northern Chinese martial arts. One of them is called Long Fist (108 forms), but there are many others. So I don't think it's accurate to say that Chang Quan is the "bulk" of it but part of something bigger that got refined over the generations of the Chen Family.
@Aston Price-Lockhart I agree that it's a mixed martial art, but it seems this video is trying to "unmix" it. Although it sounds like Long Fist (108 Form) was one of the 7 different ancestral Northern martial art routines that was sythesized into the original Taijiquan, it's very unlikely that today's Long Fist (expecially the performance version) would be anything like the ancient version of Long Fist.
@@BFGalbraith74 A lot of those schools like to say "Kung Fu and Tai Chi". But, Taijiquan is a Chinese martial art, so the fact they felt the need to distinguish it probably means they only teach the non-martial Tai Chi - the health version which often a watered down version of Yang Style. People who actually train Taijiquan seriously as a martial art just practices Taijiquan. Although it's often treated as such, Taijiquan was never designed to be some kind of complementary art. Sadly, cross training with Taijiquan is often because that specific lineage of Taijiquan is historically broken. For example, there are lineages of Taijiquan where they import Judo and Sanda into it but brand it as Taijiquan as if it was there all along.
Would be interesting to go into the pushing hands and hand sensitivity and handfighting drills in Taichi. My current BJJ instructor cross trains in Taichi and he says it helps him a lot with his grappling game. Makes sense since Taichi was originally a grappling art. Also might be interesting to look up the training of hyperarch fascia training which also relates to the taichi silk reeling concept.
Taijiquan was not really a grappling art. Although there are multiple wrist and arm locks aka qinna techniques. (My main style is Wu style and it seems to have more grappling techniques than I ever learned in Yang and Chen style.)If you are of the mindset that Chen style is the original style, then one of the most unique features is the striking power, fajing. As for sensitivity drills, in my opinion no art is better at this than taijiquan. I have done some wing chun and knew several wing chun students and teachers who also practiced taijiquan to improve their chi sao, sticky hands. I have also done a little BJJ and found my taijiquan helped a lot especially in the stand up portion. I always felt very comfortable that it would be quite difficult for most people to take me down from the standard gi wearing stand up positions. Not only does taijiquan train sensitivity through tui shou , pushing hands, but like all internal martial arts, there is a strong emphasis on holding one's root. Taijiquan is completely misunderstood by most because as it gained popularity it was diluted to be taught easily to the masses. If you can find a good taijiquan teacher, you will be very lucky and also, in my own case, quite mystified by the amazing things the human body can do when trained.
Even though I practice karate now, my routes are in Chinese kung fu (specifically chen style tai chi and hung gar). Love to see someone actually give kung fu a fair shot, especially since it hasn't had the best rep in recent times. (Side note, "changquan" is pronounced as "chang chuan") Absolutely loved this video and I can't wait to see the rest of this series!
I'm practicing hung gar and it's soo fun to watch karate videos since everything connects to themselves and you get to see different point of views on the same things (just like he called a block in 6:55, when in hung gar, in that case, that would be a strike and things like that, then it gets you wonder why and what people saw there that you didn't)
That’s awesome that you are searching other martial arts like you did with TKD, if possible you should look into Kajukenbo, Capoeira, Aikido, Savate, Tukong Moosul, Silat, Hwa Rang Do, Kuk sul wan, Moo do kwan, Tang Soo Do, Hapkido, Kenpo, Taekkyon, kickboxing, that leg raises or leg movements where the leg went straight up and down is like the ax kick or the crescent kick
Different types of Asian martial arts are good at different aspects, but most of them are related to each other just as other kinds of Asian cultures. In my view, Japanese paid more attention to the actual fighting effectiveness of their martial arts, korean paid more attention to the fatal results(killing the enemy with one action), while Chinese paid too much attention to the internal feeling of the practitioner or even just to how to make it look more graceful. In many aspects, Chinese should keep humble and learn from Japanese who are so successful in assimilating different cultures(not only cultures from the east, but also from the west). 祖先的荣耀只能归于祖先。
I, who love asian martial arts so much, keep telling me that every time: "The problem is not the art but the person who practices it. And it can work only if you use it properly."
I'd like to see a collab with some kyokushin master, Like the Okinawa series.That'd be a great video I think.Also maybe a video on wado ryu. Thank you. It's always great to try different martial arts .
One of the “Tao chi practitioners” that lost to one of the MMA fighters was a magician and not even a real tai chi master. A few of the other “masters” were fake as well. That’s why I never lost faith in kung fu, as an MMA practitioner myself.
There is a Huge difference between being a Teacher, and a MASTER. If someone can cook well, and teaches cooking... but is not "Chef", is he Fake? No. Is what he is teaching Fake? No. In fact, he could have went a Culinary Institute, and leaned everything needed to become a Chef... BUT... have never worked in a high level Restaurant Kitchen.. such as one of Gordon Ramsays establishments. If he tried to work in such a place... he would lack the experience of being under such timed pressure... and would easily start to make mistakes, and end up failing. But again.. that does not make him Fake... nor does it make what he knows Fake. He simply never hones his skills to Masterclass Levels of Performance. Most teachers today, are Not Masterclass level technicians. They are not fake... and what they offer is still typically of great value.. BUT.. do not expect them to actually do well in a real fight.. because they have never fully developed themselves to such a level. Another example... is in Attributes. Many people can throw a vertical fist punch, with perfect technique and form. But is there Lethal levels of power in that punch? A Masterclass level practitioner has developed this punch (and every other tech), to Lethal levels of power output. They have maximized Every attribute: Form, Speed, Accuracy, Power... in every movement, to the sheer extreme limits of what their bodies are capable of producing... AND, they can repeat this level of performance EVERY single time they execute, even when under extremely high stresses of heavy barefist combat. Finally, do not have Faith. Simply Learn, Master, and then Test. This is the way to know what works and what might be partially incorrect.. or outright fraudulent. Never blame the art immediately. Most failures are caused by poor execution, and misunderstandings of application. Take the time needed to make sure you are fully aware that you are not at fault, rather than the actual techniques. Its quite rare that something that survived 2000 yrs, and millions of man-hours of development + usage, was "Incorrect" / wrong..etc. (But, some teachers.. and or some art variations, might be teaching certain things incorrectly)
Those videos are needed people have to see them it proves China will black ball their own people simply because he is beating their masters and because the Chinese have a problem with "losing face" they hate it and believe that it fine to abuse harrass and send death threats to the man simply because he is proving that those masters are fake
@@johndough8115 I just wish to add, do not follow blind faith. But be humble and faithful to the principles thought to you. And don't be so arrogant to think the teacher has taught wrongly, perhaps we still need more time to fully understand the teachings. Even if you can't be respectful, you don't have to disrespect anyone.
I've been practising taichi for 5~6 years and the changes to my body are amazing. anyone can benefit from it, for fighting or not. absolutely loved your video. can't wait to see the 2nd part
長拳 is pinyin in Mandarin “Chang Quan”. If in Cantonese, it is “Cheung Kuen” May be “Chang-Chuan” is easier for English speaking persons but not understood by the mandarin or putonghua language speaking persons.
Inami seems like a natural performer; I bet her competitive forms are great fun to watch. Daoist Gate is a great resource to check out Tai Chi as a martial art; they put up a video for applications that really focuses on the principles and fighting strategies. Enjoying your videos on cross training with other styles!
Thanks for sharing. I recommend that you continue to practice Chang quan and tai chi. Not only will they improve your shotokan karate strikes, but your overall technique as well. In addition, you will see your kata and kumite in a whole new light. I know this from experience.
2:55 I hated these kicking drills back then. Our shifu cross-trained both taolu and sanda. As a sanda trainee, I never thought that flexibility is needed but I was wrong. We were forced to perform splits before the kicking drills and I'm not flexible . The pain from the splits is magnified by performing these drills. However, the pain is worth it though but I hated it.
@@Stormtrooper--dx1xj Without pain? S - l - o - w - l - y. Also, use dynamic stretches, not static stretches. Sports medicine has found that, though static stretches increase flexibility, they also create scar tissue in your muscles which, when you stop stretching, makes you even less flexible than you were when you started. Dynamic stretches develop your flexibility with movement; bear in mind that, when athletes injure their muscles, it's not usually because they stretched too far but because their muscles didn't stretch fast enough. Another point is, don't bother developing more flexibility than you need for the kicks you're going to do.
You used the title for an attention grabber then simply went on to defend your preconceived opinion. So I'll give my opinion. Mixed martial arts has exposed the weaknesses of many traditional arts. Does that render all non mixed styles useless? For combat YES! However other styles of training still have a place in the area of exercise, like tybo, jazzercise, aerobics, and walking.
Fan Yao is a spinning back punch that Comes from the Y axe. Guys go watch Wushu, stop saying a technique dont Work, take risks and figure out how to apply a Wushu move in a real fight. Which is what I did in my hardcore sparrings and they Work. By the way, Karate forms are literally baji Quan, Xing Yi Quan and Nanquan mixed.
bet this 'karate sensei' will get beaten by your average Joe in any MMA gym lol. All these traditional artists all talk but never practice sparring on a consistent basis will never be good at fighting no matter how good their techniques are. It's sad to see shotokan being reduced to what it is nowadays while in the old days the real 'sensei' would go challenge other karate masters on a frequent basis to test what works and what not, and sparring was intense the people got injured. Karate was designed to kill - but nowadays it becomes a sport like football it's fun to watch but useless in real life situation. Same with TKD and other eastern martial arts. The only exception are muay thai because they spar so often. Muay thai is probably not superior to kungfu/karate in anyway but it's got to what it is today because it constantly evolves to take in what works and eliminate useless craps. So many times I see karate people with their chin up, hands down because they don't teach you basic stuff like tuck your chin in karate. Even Lyoto machida adjusts his karate and when you watched him in the UFC only half about what he was doing resemble what karate practioners do, and look almost completely different from shotokan/olympic tournaments which just look dumb. Even Kyokushin is also reduced to punching people's chests while not protecting your head at all - like how is that even practical for 'self defense'. If you make it a sport, don't call it 'martial' art.
@@Cailean_MacCoinnich He was referring to it as taiji, though. I think Gregory is right, and that she is an admittedly impressive Wushu teacher. I daresay the taiji form she shows him will be Wushu as well, rather than traditional taijiquan but we shall see. No disrespect intended to her though. It's all kung fu and that takes lots of dedicated work.
In Indonesia any stance is called "Kuda-kuda", Kuda meaning "Horse". So, yeah, I always chuckle a bit whenever people say "horse stance". Anyway, just as an insight, I'd like to direct you to watch this UA-cam podcast about Chinese martial arts and "fake masters". ua-cam.com/video/pEkyXowI5_A/v-deo.html I watched it almost a year ago right around finding out about Jeese Enkamp's journey to China. From the conclusion, generally speaking, those "masters" aren't actually masters. They were charlatans. And according to another video that I watched, I forgot which (probably the same from the link I posted) one of them was even actually someone with mental problem; someone who suffered from a delusion on grandeur of sorts (I gotta say, I feel sorry for him because he was an old man). Anyway, I can't say that all masters aren't or are fake. I'm no practitioner myself. But, I guess we need to keep an open mind about everything, especially concerning martial arts, combat sports, and self defense. And, just like Bruce Lee once said, "Take what works, and discard what doesn't", or something. I don't really remember the exact line, but you got my point. 😅😅😅 Oh, and keep up the good work. I'm hoping you'd revisit Okinawa for us and go to Asato Dojo. And also give us more in depth history lessons concerning the styles and roots of Karate. And lastly, if I may, please consider going to these guys' countries or at least make a podcast with them: Rokas (Martial Arts Journey channel) Iain Abnernathy. Jeese Enkamp (another video with both of would be awesome!) Maul Mornie (a Silat Suffian Bela Diri Guru, master in Bruneian silat). And Cecep Arif Rahman (search him in The Raid 2: Berandal and John Wick: Parabellum). Thanks for sharing and keep up the good work, Yusuke-san!
Alot of us werterners also refer to spice tea as chai when when chai is the indian word for tea/don't realise that saying chai tea is basically saying tea tea and find out the hard way when they visit india and ask for a chai and get served non-spiced tea not realising you have to say that you want a chai masala/spice if you want "chai tea"
I’m a Boxer but I get so excited to see similarities in either technique or or approach of different martial arts, the Okinawan punches that you described we get taught to throw out punches the same way in boxing almost like a whip, releasing all your power at the and of the end of your fist for maximum impact, it’s so cool to see something like Taichi a martial art with so much history share similarities with my art and sport it’s just so cool!
those gong fu masters in those videos were much older than the mma guys. it wasn't a fair fight, neither age wise nor weight wise. i truly believe a young, well trained gong fu master can pose a challenge to any martial artist in a fight !
Over 40 years ago, when I first started my martial arts journey, I attended a Shotokan Karate class under the auspices of the late great Hirokazu Kanazawa Sensei. Even back then he was very forward thinking and had started to practice Taijiquan, and encouraged all his instructors to include Taiji into their daily regimen. the softness fluidity and circular motions of Yang Taiji perfectly complemented the firm more linear Karate. As teens we all wanted to fight, but we were also encouraged to attend the taiji classes. Kanazawa Sensei was a very wise Master who is greatly missed.
My friend practiced Yang style taichi and was the bull of San Quetin, not the town, the California State prison! Shows that it's how you practice, not what you practice.
And Yang style seems to be the "gentle" style even among other tai chi styles. The martial aspects are more readily apparent in Wu and Chen style movements. One of the benefits of tai chi is that it refines your martial art movements to the nth degree, little ways to help with balance, energy, movement, posture. The finesse leads to a "first touch" that quickly develops complacency in the opponent (they think there's nothing there) who realizes that their defense was compromised, but that it's too late for a counter.
I have studied Tai Chi since 1971 and I have taught it since 1996. I have always been taught the Chuan version, that is the "fist" so my training has always incorporated the martial versions of this art. There is a lot to say. If, however, a person is not specifically taught the fight aspect of Tai Chi, their fighting will be useless and they will lose. In the end, and these days I have to only rely on my arms due to four knee surgeries over the years, but a good straight, a good hook, and a good upper cut along with feints, economy of movement, and strategic "listening", will go a long way in winning a match or in defending yourself. We also do push hands and the ol' school teaching is you learn one lesson after 1000 losses. That has been my reality. Shadow boxing is a must. Sparring is a must. No sparring = defeat. I was taught to do the form as if I had an opponent or opponents and to do push hands as if I had none. Very good training. Many Tai Chi people get all hung up on "chi" and think there is some magic that happens if a person does the form over and over again. If the form is done a lot, especially, for example, taking one hour to do the 108 at a low and wide stance, one will get flexibility, strength, power, and martial prowess. Many more aspects to this art, of course. I will be 69 in July and even after all my surgeries, including open heart surgery, I can still hold my own against opponents. One more thing: fighting for three minutes is forever. Most people have no clue about that and they have no training in conserving energy and not wasting it. Most people I have fought, run out of gas in less than a minute.
Tai chi is good for health,reflexes and flexibility just like Yoga. Tai chi alone isn't enough for a fighter, however if you know Tai chi it would be lot easier to learn MMA/Muay Thai as you will have flexibility in your kick and some reflexes.
Learning Tai Chi Ch'uan, instead of Tai Chi for health & beauty is a very different activity. Finding teachers who truly know internal fighting skill and technique is not easy. You learned nothing of Tai Chi Ch'uan from this.
U might wanna check out adam mizner on youtube for the martial art kinda tai chi not the wushu competition type. Or even Chen xiao wang for the traditional Chen style tai chi
Thanks for the great video! And, of course, for such a fair and open-minded view of all of this 'MMA is better than traditional martial arts' thing, which I personally think is just... well, garbage. Such comparison is not needed and such view threatens the continued existence of a wealth of cultural heritage which is all of these generations-old martials arts more than the perceived efficacy of said arts as self-defense mechanism. I'm not any kind of active martial art student anymore and certainly never a graduate of any kind of style, but my few years practicing taught me that there's a huge difference between 'martial art' and 'combat sport' (of which MMA is one) and comparing the two by having representatives fight it out in a ring is like, uh... say, when a sprinter challenge a marathoner to a 200m foot race and the sprinter wins because he's faster, and goes on to say that, yeah, sprinting is a better form of running than marathon. So, ya know. And also, my wushu teacher drummed into our skulls that our rule number 1 is "never ever get into a fight!" (us being a bunch hotheaded teenage boys, that guy is a miracle worker!). What baffles me more is actually the fact that any traditional martial art masters would ever get involved in any of that stuff. Oh, well, on to a cheerier topic, there are some huge differences between karate and tai chi or any other kind of Chinese martial arts beyond the easily observed differences in speed, forms etc. From my experience, the biggest one is the leg flexibility training. In karate, during leg stretching warm up the aim is to get the face to touch the knees; wushu aims to get the face to touch the tip of the foot, which is achievable by manipulating hips and pulling the legs in during stretching. When you do the warmup, you will feel that doing the wushu way cause more muscles to contract and the tendon behind the knee to get pulled farther, and it also engages the muscles on the back, and the shoulders and arms as well from the pulling motion. As for the result, you can see the difference quite clearly during the 'changquan kick' portion of this video; you can see how Inami-san seems to aim her kick on her own forehead while your kick send your foot above your head level. Additionally, such practice, as my teacher once explained, works wonder as a basis for any number of other wushu styles or martial arts that uses low, deep-rooted stance as it strengthens the legs and loose hip and knee joints to allow practitioner to sink lower during stances while keeping balance; so basically, the loosened (might be using the wrong term here) hip and knees joints allows more range, and the strengthened leg muscles brace against the body weight during when doing low stances so equilibrium is maintained. My karate education was a bit problematic (our dojo was a mess), so my knowledge of karate is very limited, so my apologies in advance if I got my facts wrong here. Thanks again for the great video! Keep up the good work and have fun practicing! :D PS: do you know that 'changquan' means 'long fist'? Changquan punches makes sense now, right? XD
OH god I hate to be 'ONE OF THOSE GUYS!' but I can't let this go, at 7:30 - you are doing the bo stance. Looking at it from head on, it's too narrow, she could push you slightly from other side and you would fall sideways (the did this to me ALL the time when I started learning southern kung fu styles). EVEN in these wide bow stances your feet should maintain about shoulder witdth, otherwise you'll fall over to the side - a common error.
5:35 Ooof that long punching - and those long form kicks - it looks like long fist wushu to a slightly suspicious degree - like there's direct influence from chinese performance wushu. I would be worried about using the punch with any power because of hyper-extension of the elbow? BUT I could be missing something. But I will say this - all of what I am seeing here is so great for flexibility and balance, you'll move like a ninja-cat-thing if you do this a lot. Which is why even into old age it doesn't hurt to shoot for this kind of performance and I am thankful to some of my old wushu training I did in my 20's for it. :D But I have seen other styles of combat tai-chi that don't look quite as flashy. ANY kind of taichi teaches relaxation, balance, and control, and has a great kinesthetic benefit.
People often attribute Taijiquan as "Soft". But Chen Style, the original form of Taijiquan, is often attributed as "Soft" and "Hard", "Slow" and "Fast". For example, I would assume what you learned was nothing like this: ua-cam.com/video/xNHwlJ66z0o/v-deo.html
@@ShadowParalyzer No, it was more like a slow motion exercise that you see older people doing in the park. Still, I prefer the direct strong fighting styles like the Kang Duk Won karate foundation that I have along with the Joe Lewis fighting system.
@@Docinaplane Most likely, you were exposed to Yang Style as that is the most popular style of Tai Chi because the Yang family were the first to publicize their art. Most health and spiritual versions of Tai Chi uses a watered down, mutated version of Yang Style.
@@legolam4271 I watched some of the Yang form on your channel. That is similar to what I briefly did. I can see the martial arts movements, but at the time, I felt that I was doing much of the same movements with what I was training , but with speed and power, which supported my goals to be a fighter and use for self-defense.
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Karate , tai Chi son diferentes,así de sencillo.
I really love Tai Chi. I've trained a bit since the last year, and I find it quite stimulating. And yes, it's harder than it seems.
I have taken Tai Chi Twon, Shaolin, Go Jo Rue, and Tang Su Do, and also Russian martial arts. I prefer Tai Chi Twon, and Shaolin, and Russian martial arts. I also prefer Russian martial arts because the Russians don't make anything elaborate. they are quick and to the point, and that is what you need in martial arts.
What a lot of people don't realize is that martial arts does not mean a fighting art. Tai Chi Twon and Shaolin rely on a lot of breathing, and I think that this is very important. When you breath properly you prevent injuries, especially internal injuries. You also have more power. There is also Tai Chi Twon competition. I also would not advise anybody to call a Tai Chi Twon master or practitioner a pussy, because if you do, you will probably find yourself on the floor very fast, and you will be in a lot of pain. You don't need a lot of power to hurt someone and do some damage.
In one Go Jo rue class that I took my instructor used me to show the rest of the class the proper placement for a snap kick. He kicked me with a snap kick very slowly in the middle of my left thigh. He barely touched me, and I collapsed. My leg from my toes up to my thigh went completely numb. I fell to the floor, and had to crawl to the side of the training area. I could not participate for the rest of the class. I couldn't stand up.
It was as if my instructor literally put my leg to sleep. some people don't think that there is such a thing as dim mack, well there is. I think that is what I experienced here. I would actually take my left fist and hit my left thigh area several times. My leg would seem to start to wake up, only to fall back to sleep. After the class I had to limp out of the dojo. So please people, do not think that Go Jo Rue (which means soft then hard), Tai Chi Twon, and Shaolin are wimpy, because they are not.
Hodokan
If you look up the history of Asian martial arts you are likely to find that they developed first in what is now China , migrated throughout Asia , with each region selecting & developing the parts to git their needs .
That's why parts Chinese martial arts can be found in ones developed in other parts of Asia. They, though distantly are all related . Look it up !
When I was training TKD, I studied some Tai Chi when I was 17 years old. I found Tai Chi accelerated all of my training as it improved my balanced from having to keep balance while moving slowly, instead of quick movements. I started practicing several TKD kicks slowly to improve my balance. Also helped with my thought processing of what I was doing. And once I switched to a freestyle, I found adding Tai Chi techniques improved my blocking and diverting the energy of the opponent's attack.
This is an old Tae Kwon Do champion's story. The bottom line is that balance is balance, and momentum is not the same thing.
I strongly felt that as well!
@@stevedallas6122 Its a bit more complicated than just that. When you do a movement slowly, you are forced under Strain, to develop strength all along the entire path of the movement. You also build up superconscious levels of awareness as well, as your mind is forced to "Listen" to every little detail, as it slowly unfolds.
In addition to this, Tai Chi adds specialized deep breathing with the slow and relaxed movements. This causes the muscles and tissues, to develop in a different way. You get super-strong yet very elastic tendons, and tissue / muscles that hold more oxygen and have far increased levels of circulation paths. It makes for an Iron-Body effect, where as the body sort of expands with blood, forming a shielding effect... as well as some other attributes. (water does not compress)
The slow movements can also form a Meditation state in the mind. If you do enough 1hr sessions, every other day... for like 3 to 6 months... your brain permanently changes. Meditation caused the brain to grow in connections and density (recently proven in before and after MRI brain-scans). Eventually you reach Quiet-Mind state, in which your mind is nearly or completely Silent. Free of distractions, permanently. Its one of the Greatest things you can do, to increase the quality of your life. It also allows you to learn new things, at like 3x the pace.
@@johndough8115 I agree. Absolutely.
I studied kuksool in highschool. It included tumbling and I couldn't do it. So I joined a gymnastics class and they focused on doing movements slowly with a focus on flexibility and core strength. After several months, I was able to do the tumbling better. There is definitely something to be said for slowing things down.
Cool! I really like when people take the approch of "what can I learn from this" rather than just going "this shit is useless"
Which is why so many fail to be able to fight with Shotokan karate.
I'm a muay thai guy but I love studying other styles to learn principles I can apply to what I already do or have been working on, one of my team mates has wing Chung and escrima experience and also activly trains HEMA and when we spar I see the wing Chung at work with the parrys and forearm blocks he uses to shut down my pressure boxing.
Sometimes it's easy to forget that all of these styles have something at their core that made them effective for the people who originally used them. I would argue that the biggest issue CMA has nowadays is that most of the instructors don't know how to actually fight with their art, having gone multiple generations without the need for the head instructor to actually fight. With an instructor who actually knows how to fight with the art they teach, or else with a solid grounding in fighting from practising an art like boxing, muay thai, or karate, it's going to be much simpler to find which parts work for you and how best to apply them.
Tai chi chuan has unfortunately picked up a great deal of mysticism (and later pseudo-scientific concepts like chi being "bioelectricity") along the way, but originally it was a long fist style, quite similar to arts like karate and muay thai, with an added emphasis on dispersing and generating power using little used muscles in the body.
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I'm the same way, with adapting moves from various martial arts to suit my needs; sort of that whole Jeet Kun Do mindset. Anyways, I had a friend years back who was into traditional Wing Chun, and he tried to show me a bit, but I found it was too boxy, close-up, and rigid to be used as a primary martial art. Like you said, applying the guards and breaks from it could certainly be beneficial, but I never found it as effective at defending as intended; I broke or slipped his guard pretty often just by baiting and then counter-attacking when he committed.
What's your overall take on Wing Chun, and do you think someone focused on keeping an opponent at range would benefit much from that sort of grappling, or would more of a TKD approach be good enough?
Thanks for making these videos! I keep telling my fellow Shotokan practitioners about Tai Chi and how it actually compliments our art. Both arts can benefit from the other. I would love to see more cooperation between them.
You should try and find someone from the Chen Xiaowang lineage of Chen Tai Chi for the more combative applications ..
The difficulty in Tai Chi is combat application of its moves. Most moves have several applications, but they are hard to find unless shown to you. For example, you never just stand around in horse stance -- your opponent will angle in and you won't be able to face them, or your opponent will just sweep your front leg. You drop into a horse stance quickly, throw that block which is meant to blunt the force of a mid-height kick to the ribs or groin, immediately turn into bow stance and punch as a counter. You reach for extra range with the punch because it is a counter to a kick, and you need to sink that punch into the opponent's body. Something was missing from what she showed you, I think? After the punch, I learned to turn the other direction -- this isn't just to repeat the exercise in a small space, but because after your counter you might want to get immediately out of range again to reset. The movement when done as fast as possible looks like you are ramming your arm and shoulder into a kick that hasn't quite extended yet, to blunt it. As soon as you blunt the kick, the impact force of it into you helps you rotate your torso into the counter-punch. Then you either step into the reeling opponent or step out to avoid being hit by something yourself. It all happens in about 1 second, in real time. You practice slowly to build up the needed muscles, then practice quickly once they are strong.
3:16 Wow. To see a Tai Chi Practitioner doing those types of stretching Wushu kicks is impressive. I have never seen anyone in Tai Chi do this before. But you said she also does Changquan which is the chinese way of saying Long Fist and is one of the three types of Wushu competition (Changquan, Nanquan and Sanshou/Sanda (full contact sparring))
Most people dont understand what Tai Chi is😭 Tai Chi is grappling and wrestling at the same Time, even Changquan is wrestling but IT Also has some strikes and blocks or grabs. Some moves in forms come from the use of weapons.
I'm no expert, having maybe gotten only half-way to a black belt; but I also do the Chin Man Ching short form. I think Tai Chi has a LOT to offer karate. I decided that a mix of Karate, Gracie Ju Jitsu and Tai Chi might make a formidable combination. You point out that the releasing of the punch is like Okinawan Karate; which was my thought. You said using that technique, you were able to punch twice as hard. There was an American series titled "Fight Science"; in which, among other things, they tested the ability of all styles to punch with the most power they could. I saw an episode in which the winner (at least at that point) was a practitioner of Ninjitsu. However, the punch technique he used to win was a Tai Chi punch utilizing Fa Jing.
Furthermore, I read the Tai Chi classics; and one maxim was "When you opponent attacks, you cannot be found. When you attack, there is nowhere to run." I tried that in sparring, with dramatic success. A black-belt kept winding up to do a spin kick, but when he backed up, I advanced on him, and not seeing a better target, I pushed him with a mae geri on the hips, and he wound up in a pile on the floor. This repeated two more times. So, while most of what I was doing was karate, it seemed my opponents had no idea what was going on when I threw in a little Tai Chi.
Some tips about a Tai Chi punch in practice: It can be a very short punch, even one inch, but it sort of wells up from the Dan Tian, and ripples through the body. Only when you strike do you tighten the fist, and then you immediately withdraw it and relax it, so as to decrease injury to yourself. As in Karate, in actual use, you don't just put it out there and hold it. The Okinawan Karate has you turn your torso at 45 degrees, so as to extend reach. Tai Chi seems to have the idea of making your opponent commit, and then attacking. It doesn't seem to care what the attitude of the body is, so long as the head and torso are bolt upright, and you are relaxed before and after the punch, but focus your energy on it when you strike.
Train in any traditional self defence style that makes you feel happy.
As long as you are not competing it doesn't matter.
Why does competition matter?
Humbly: A recent important discovery of mine with the power of Tai Chi (among other Neijiaquan), is the importance of standing practice - In Tai Chi, it would be "Wuji" posture. It's difficult to keep this short, but I'll try: With External arts, what you see is what you get. It seems powerful because it looks powerful, and most people have seen "powerful". The power of Internal arts is not evident in the physical movement (especially in the forms), which is why it is misunderstood- you will only know the truth of Internal power from experiencing it (which only makes sense- Martial Arts is experienced through the sense of touch, not sight.. people seem to forget this). It is many consecutive days and countless collective hours of standing in Wuji or Zhan Zhuang (Cheng Bao, "embracing tree") posture that trains the Internal arts practitioner to rely less on isolated muscular tension and specific physical structure, and instead the freedom afforded by the whole-body tensegrity of fascial tissues. Tai Chi will always "look weak" to the uninitiated, watching from the outside in.. What is unseen is occurring within the practitioner's mind and body- the yi leading the qi; the qi moving the body. On the outside, a neophyte and (actual) master (not the charlatans drunk on their own Kool-Aid getting pummeled by the Xu Xiaodongs of the world) may appear the same... But what is occurring inside is the difference between defeat and victory.
Thanks for reading 🙏🏼 Happy training.
I tried TKD as 11 years old. Sparred adult black belts. Tried Tai Chi. He saw the hip lift of the roundhouse kick intantly. Took me down in an instant, but with him on bottom so he
Fascinating project! I am a Tai Chi teacher myself and recently started practicing some Ninpo and I also find that Tai Chi has given me a very useful foundation for the softer Japanese martial arts. Body shape, footwork and the correct relaxation all come very naturally.
I think it's great to look at these exercises and consider how they benefit your art. I would like to point out though that the way your Changquan teacher moves and overextends her shoulder is not actually how a Tai Chi practitioner would approach fighting. It's just a way of improving your agility and body integration.
As long as we are clear about the goal of our training there is no problem. You seem to be right that Chang Quan is more an aesthetic performance art rather than a combat art. Nothing wrong as long as we are clear why we are performing it. It can however improve your flexibility and mobility and thus prepare the ground for harder combat oriented martial arts and eventually self- defence training!!
Longfist is awesome, especially if you get away from the competitive wushu stuff.
Right!
"give me my beer and i'll show how real tai chi is practiced" - Sun Tzu to his wife
Great video, Do some pushing hands with a chen taiji master if you want to learn about the martial art.
Thank you.
I often find myself having to explain to modern people that Traditional martial arts systems have "Internal-Martial-Arts" as well as "External-Martial-Arts".
I explain that QiGong and Tai-Chi are Internal-Martial-Arts. They are not exactly designed for combat. But Learning Internal Martials Arts, helps develop certain skills like improved Balance and Mobility, which in turn improves your skills in Combative Martial arts styles.
For comparison I explain that USA Football Players train in Ballet Dancing, because it helps develop certain skills that improves their performance on the field. For instance Ballet strengthens the legs, knees, and ankles, increases mobility and speed. and it also increases balance, all of these added benefits helps players avoid injuries in the sport.
Tai-Chi is allot like that when its methods are applied to any other martial art.
Great demonstration of Tai Chi possibilities.Much appreciate the Interest for the art! Japanese people are highly spiritual! Thank you for your post.
i like the fan yao. i'll keep working on it.
The kanji 长拳 means "long fist". The whole idea is to extend your body as much as possible to create momentum and power. It's actually quite similar to Aikido in concept, but different in expression and application.
Thank you for featuring modern Wushu Changquan!
These moves are also practiced in Hung Gar.
These low stances are great for exercise but have little practical value for modern self defence. Stances all depend on the terrain. When fighting on a steep mountainside, its necessary to use a low stance like the Ninja, Shaolin masters and the old Okinawan masters. On the street, a normal stance is the most appropriate.
A great video. I have studied both arts.
can you do a video about Muay thai, krav maga and judo?
I find it a bit amusing, I do ballroom dance, and one of the things that was mentioned is keeping your shoulders down when punching far away, in the ballroom position, you have your elbows in a straight line but you have to keep your shoulders down in order for the frame to work well
Interesting enough later in life the late Hirokazu Kanazawa, also included T'ai chi ch'üan in his training.
I believe that the Chinese MMA fighter(or one of them) had a video explaining why he is doing matches because the guys he were fighting were making outlandish claims. & some people started resharing without the context of the whole situation.
However like how people misunderstood Karate in USA due to what they’ve seen in the movies & what we call open tournaments, the similar misconceptions appear to be occurring with Tai chi.
So until someone comes along that figures a way how to incorporate Tai chi into competing in a MMA setting a lot of those negative viewpoints of it are going to continue.
I suggest you look into the differences between traditional tajiquan/gongfu and competition (form) based taiji/kungfu, which seems to have a lot in common with modern wushu. The traditonal way has a lot of depth to it, in a broad way but also in a martial way.
Relax the shoulders! So hard to remember sometimes, a lot of time. I used to be so tense I had no neck. Totally makes a difference in everything.
Heres the thing. There is what we call "park" tai chi. That is the type you see commonly practised in parks all over the world. There are differet styles from Chen to Yang to Wu and Hu and each of these have different incarnations and movements. But the point is that most are practised in parks and the practise is aimed at health and is an exercise. It is slow moving and soft. It can have internal benefits when practised correctly and with good instruction. There is also combat tai chi. That is the original intent of taic chi chuan or taijijuan. This is an aggressive, fast and totally martial art. Yes the movements are practised slowly to achieve strength, cultivate energy and develop stamina as well as maintaining good health. But this is not "park" tai chi. Combat tai chi is rarely seen by the general public. Anyone coming up against a true combat trained taichi player will be in for a world of hurt. The styles taught in the original Chen style or the original Yang style where used for fighting and self defense. They rely on aggression , fast strikes, powerful movements and so forth.
1) Pronunciation: changquan is correctly pronounced as "chahng-chwen."
2) Changquan is a different martial art from taijiquan. (Technically, changquan is more a category of traditional Chinese martial art, including styles like chaquan, huaquan, etc.) These days it is more famous as "movie kungfu" due to Jet Li, etc.
3) Changquan is not normally practiced as a prerequisite for taijiquan, except in the modern competition wushu schools (where Jet Li, etc. came from), where changquan is the "base" for everything else.
The problem with Tai Chi is that it had lost its martial application long time ago. I've read one guy's story about his travels to Chen village and how nothing was there to even remind the world about the supposed birthplace of Tai Chi. For health purposes it is probably great, but for martial aspects, it just doesn't cut it. I'd opt for anything Hakka based (Southern styles) rather than this. Tai Chi as it is now, has definitively nothing on Goju-ryu or Uechi-ryu.
The stances is very dangerous for knees. Especially when you have to walk with the stance like that. The injury impact will be on your knees.
Oh yeah... Longfist.... Great entry point for a karateka!
Everyone asks the wrong question about Tai Chi. It shouldn’t be “Is Tai Chi best for helping you win a fight?” The correct question is “Will Tai Chi help you defend your body from aging, immobility, falling, and leave you better prepared to repel an attacker?” The answer to question 1 is no. The answer to question 2 is yes!
I'd like to see applications for Tai Chi.
From my search in youtube, i saw that taichi was best at standing grappling, check out chen ziqiang sparing.
In my Tai Chi class there are a lot of grey haired men, including me, who studied karate in their younger days. 😊
Chinese brought Karate to Okinawa, Japan
The islanders were tree bark wearers before then
As a guy who has went through quite some historical material on Chinese martial arts , I've come to the conclusion that a lot of tai chi's teachings were lost , and that practitioners cannot understand the true meaning behind these movements without already knowing how to fight .
I think I will start incorporating more of Tai Chi practices in my training 🤔
I was under the impression that Chan Chuan was just another way of saying kung fu.
I think it is all of our responsibility to be honest and just agree that Tai Chi is not for fighting. If we are already a fighter then we can benefit and even use Tai Chi principles but if we are just an average guy with no experience who decides to learn Tai Chi we will not be able to use it to defend ourselves effectively. Physical and Mental Health 10/10, Defensive capability 1/10. Clearly very good for flexibility. I would say it has more benefits than Yoga.
Many Chinese people would disagree. Chinese folk I've spoken to don't see Tai Chi as a combative martial art.
By fighting I meant also Self Defence. Tai Chi is only Self Defence if the Tai Chi practitioner understands hard combat. Without combative training the principles of Tai Chi will not work for Self Defense. Let's just agree to disagree. Tai Chi like anything has its merits.
Interesting, what Tai Chi style is she practicing? It seems very different from the traiditional Yang style, which I am familiar with. Very flashy.
The circularic kick when slappin it is known as the crescent kick.Her version of Tai Chi Chuan is not well performed. Tai Chi Chuan is extremely delicate; but, powerfull. It is similar to Kundalini Yoga in power levels.
tai chi is for health....tai chi " chuan " is for self defense and is originally a combat system that developed fa jing internal striking . The concept of iron wrapped in cotton ,
Stiff art vs soft art.
What about Qigong
Nice
I dont think its ''useless'' but it has its limits like every martial arts and combat sports.
Next time you should try Indonesian Pencak Silat..
Respect!
Osu..!!
It is all up to the practitioner of the art. How good he or she is makes all the difference. It is not the style. I have briefly studied different styles, though my focus has always been on Tae Kwon Do. The practitioners of Hapkido looked very versatile. Having said that, it is all about speed, timing, and accuracy. In real life, it matters who hits whom first accurately. Short of being a Shaolin master, most arts as Bruce said have weaknesses and strengths. You need to choose an art based on your taste and the shape of your body. Read what Chuck Norris says about that.
I train same time the ma bu
This experiences will make your karate grow a lot .
Thanks!
I suspect that the topic of Tai Chi in this video is unintentionally geared towards Wushu Performance instead of martial art.
Historically and traditionally in the family lines of Taijiquan, people do not practice Changquan before learning Taijiquan. So, it's rather confusing how everything in this video is labeled as Changquan but called Tai Chi. They're not the same thing. I suspect the idea of learning Changquan before learning Tai Chi most likely comes from the Wushu Performance sector where their main objective is aesthetics at the cost of functionality. That's not a criticism or a mistake. That's intentional. They perform these flashy movements for aesthetics, and even the choreography are often non-traditional.
But more often than not in the USA if someone is training Tai Chi seriously it is along with other Kung Fu styles, maybe most commonly Choy Li Fut which has very long movements at the beginner level like these, and Choy Li Fut is most certainly not decorative.
To be fair the tai chi that exists now days is actually a modernised version refined by Qijiguang in the Ming dynasty, I believe the bulk of that ‘refinement’ came from Chang Quan, especially its outer form
@@georgewang4276 Well, if you fast forward time a bit to the 17th century, you might hear that Chen Wangting, accredited to be the founder of Taijiquan, actually combined 7 different sets of ancestral Northern Chinese martial arts. One of them is called Long Fist (108 forms), but there are many others. So I don't think it's accurate to say that Chang Quan is the "bulk" of it but part of something bigger that got refined over the generations of the Chen Family.
@Aston Price-Lockhart I agree that it's a mixed martial art, but it seems this video is trying to "unmix" it. Although it sounds like Long Fist (108 Form) was one of the 7 different ancestral Northern martial art routines that was sythesized into the original Taijiquan, it's very unlikely that today's Long Fist (expecially the performance version) would be anything like the ancient version of Long Fist.
@@BFGalbraith74 A lot of those schools like to say "Kung Fu and Tai Chi". But, Taijiquan is a Chinese martial art, so the fact they felt the need to distinguish it probably means they only teach the non-martial Tai Chi - the health version which often a watered down version of Yang Style.
People who actually train Taijiquan seriously as a martial art just practices Taijiquan.
Although it's often treated as such, Taijiquan was never designed to be some kind of complementary art. Sadly, cross training with Taijiquan is often because that specific lineage of Taijiquan is historically broken. For example, there are lineages of Taijiquan where they import Judo and Sanda into it but brand it as Taijiquan as if it was there all along.
Wow, that girl is in fantastic shape, she's not even breathing heavy
I agree!
Tai chi is maninly for health benefits, flexibility and for meditation
No, she's breathing heavily. She's just in better control of her breathing. Styles like Tai Chi really emphasizes breathing properly.
Not necessary, unless they get too close to each other. Their Qi will interact & synergize & SparK !!! 👊👊👊
@@ConradSNIPER and Qi doesn't exist
Would be interesting to go into the pushing hands and hand sensitivity and handfighting drills in Taichi. My current BJJ instructor cross trains in Taichi and he says it helps him a lot with his grappling game. Makes sense since Taichi was originally a grappling art. Also might be interesting to look up the training of hyperarch fascia training which also relates to the taichi silk reeling concept.
Thanks for the recommendation!
Some shuaijiao as well! My kung fu teacher sometimes teaches us a bit of shuaijiao to be wrestling capable as well
@@danielfang749 definitely need to try shuai jiao! It's an awesome grappling art
Taijiquan was not really a grappling art. Although there are multiple wrist and arm locks aka qinna techniques. (My main style is Wu style and it seems to have more grappling techniques than I ever learned in Yang and Chen style.)If you are of the mindset that Chen style is the original style, then one of the most unique features is the striking power, fajing. As for sensitivity drills, in my opinion no art is better at this than taijiquan. I have done some wing chun and knew several wing chun students and teachers who also practiced taijiquan to improve their chi sao, sticky hands. I have also done a little BJJ and found my taijiquan helped a lot especially in the stand up portion. I always felt very comfortable that it would be quite difficult for most people to take me down from the standard gi wearing stand up positions. Not only does taijiquan train sensitivity through tui shou , pushing hands, but like all internal martial arts, there is a strong emphasis on holding one's root. Taijiquan is completely misunderstood by most because as it gained popularity it was diluted to be taught easily to the masses. If you can find a good taijiquan teacher, you will be very lucky and also, in my own case, quite mystified by the amazing things the human body can do when trained.
If one can achieve what you say... you will send opposing art practitioners... "reeling....."
Even though I practice karate now, my routes are in Chinese kung fu (specifically chen style tai chi and hung gar). Love to see someone actually give kung fu a fair shot, especially since it hasn't had the best rep in recent times. (Side note, "changquan" is pronounced as "chang chuan") Absolutely loved this video and I can't wait to see the rest of this series!
Yeah…I pronounced it incorrectly…
I’ll get it right next time!
@@KarateDojowaKu that's the spirit!
I'm practicing hung gar and it's soo fun to watch karate videos since everything connects to themselves and you get to see different point of views on the same things (just like he called a block in 6:55, when in hung gar, in that case, that would be a strike and things like that, then it gets you wonder why and what people saw there that you didn't)
@@KarateDojowaKu it might not be pronounced incorrectly. You pronounced it in the Mandarain way. If in Cantonese, it is Cheung Kuen.
Correction: Kung fu gets a bum-rap on social media & MMA outlets.
I'm playing panjak silat but I like movement of taichi and karate
Follow you always 😺
Thanks!
And this, ladies and gentleman, is how Ryu met Chun Li in real life.
Yes this how I remember it
Chun li style was wing chung
Ryu is much bigger and muscular. Ryu looks like a mix European and Japanese person.
@@whatsgoingon07 Actually, she would have practiced Wushu, and Tai Chi. Also, some Capoeira, and TKD.
😂
Tai Chi and most Chinese Martial Arts are very useful. It's great you're open minded Sensei!
Thanks!
I would love to see you do a video on other styles such as Bajiquan, XingyiLiuhe, or TongBei 😉
That’s awesome that you are searching other martial arts like you did with TKD, if possible you should look into Kajukenbo, Capoeira, Aikido, Savate, Tukong Moosul, Silat, Hwa Rang Do, Kuk sul wan, Moo do kwan, Tang Soo Do, Hapkido, Kenpo, Taekkyon, kickboxing, that leg raises or leg movements where the leg went straight up and down is like the ax kick or the crescent kick
Wow! Thanks for recommending so much!
2:39 ...marital art? So that's your *real* purpose of training with her, eh? 😏
In fact,they make a good couple 🤭❤️
smile @7:15 says it all
Haha
Yes she is beautiful 😍
Different types of Asian martial arts are good at different aspects, but most of them are related to each other just as other kinds of Asian cultures. In my view, Japanese paid more attention to the actual fighting effectiveness of their martial arts, korean paid more attention to the fatal results(killing the enemy with one action), while Chinese paid too much attention to the internal feeling of the practitioner or even just to how to make it look more graceful. In many aspects, Chinese should keep humble and learn from Japanese who are so successful in assimilating different cultures(not only cultures from the east, but also from the west). 祖先的荣耀只能归于祖先。
No Martial arts is ever useless! Everything works IF you make it work
I, who love asian martial arts so much, keep telling me that every time: "The problem is not the art but the person who practices it. And it can work only if you use it properly."
Exactly. Every art is a Set of Keys. Used correctly, can open many Doors.
It's on you to use right Key.
I'd like to see a collab with some kyokushin master, Like the Okinawa series.That'd be a great video I think.Also maybe a video on wado ryu. Thank you.
It's always great to try different martial arts .
I would think about that!!
One of the “Tao chi practitioners” that lost to one of the MMA fighters was a magician and not even a real tai chi master. A few of the other “masters” were fake as well. That’s why I never lost faith in kung fu, as an MMA practitioner myself.
There is a Huge difference between being a Teacher, and a MASTER. If someone can cook well, and teaches cooking... but is not "Chef", is he Fake? No. Is what he is teaching Fake? No. In fact, he could have went a Culinary Institute, and leaned everything needed to become a Chef... BUT... have never worked in a high level Restaurant Kitchen.. such as one of Gordon Ramsays establishments.
If he tried to work in such a place... he would lack the experience of being under such timed pressure... and would easily start to make mistakes, and end up failing. But again.. that does not make him Fake... nor does it make what he knows Fake. He simply never hones his skills to Masterclass Levels of Performance.
Most teachers today, are Not Masterclass level technicians. They are not fake... and what they offer is still typically of great value.. BUT.. do not expect them to actually do well in a real fight.. because they have never fully developed themselves to such a level.
Another example... is in Attributes. Many people can throw a vertical fist punch, with perfect technique and form. But is there Lethal levels of power in that punch? A Masterclass level practitioner has developed this punch (and every other tech), to Lethal levels of power output. They have maximized Every attribute: Form, Speed, Accuracy, Power... in every movement, to the sheer extreme limits of what their bodies are capable of producing... AND, they can repeat this level of performance EVERY single time they execute, even when under extremely high stresses of heavy barefist combat.
Finally, do not have Faith. Simply Learn, Master, and then Test. This is the way to know what works and what might be partially incorrect.. or outright fraudulent. Never blame the art immediately. Most failures are caused by poor execution, and misunderstandings of application. Take the time needed to make sure you are fully aware that you are not at fault, rather than the actual techniques. Its quite rare that something that survived 2000 yrs, and millions of man-hours of development + usage, was "Incorrect" / wrong..etc. (But, some teachers.. and or some art variations, might be teaching certain things incorrectly)
Thanks for sharing your insight!
Those videos are needed people have to see them it proves China will black ball their own people simply because he is beating their masters and because the Chinese have a problem with "losing face" they hate it and believe that it fine to abuse harrass and send death threats to the man simply because he is proving that those masters are fake
You need to actually learn about what you comment on
@@johndough8115 I just wish to add, do not follow blind faith. But be humble and faithful to the principles thought to you.
And don't be so arrogant to think the teacher has taught wrongly, perhaps we still need more time to fully understand the teachings.
Even if you can't be respectful, you don't have to disrespect anyone.
I've been practising taichi for 5~6 years and the changes to my body are amazing. anyone can benefit from it, for fighting or not.
absolutely loved your video. can't wait to see the 2nd part
It would be great if you could make a video with wing chun, lots of fighters think of it as a useless martial arts.
Thanks for the recommendation!
The pronunciation for Changquan is “Chang-chuan” the “q” in Chinese has a “ch” sound
長拳 is pinyin in Mandarin “Chang Quan”. If in Cantonese, it is “Cheung Kuen”
May be “Chang-Chuan” is easier for English speaking persons but not understood by the mandarin or putonghua language speaking persons.
@@TheAnsonysc He's talking about his pronunciation, not the spelling for the hanyu pinyin.
@@TheAnsonysc It simply proves the Pinyin is a bad spelling system.
Inami seems like a natural performer; I bet her competitive forms are great fun to watch.
Daoist Gate is a great resource to check out Tai Chi as a martial art; they put up a video for applications that really focuses on the principles and fighting strategies. Enjoying your videos on cross training with other styles!
Thanks so much for your insight!
Thanks for sharing. I recommend that you continue to practice Chang quan and tai chi. Not only will they improve your shotokan karate strikes, but your overall technique as well. In addition, you will see your kata and kumite in a whole new light. I know this from experience.
I can imagine that!
2:55 I hated these kicking drills back then. Our shifu cross-trained both taolu and sanda. As a sanda trainee, I never thought that flexibility is needed but I was wrong. We were forced to perform splits before the kicking drills and I'm not flexible . The pain from the splits is magnified by performing these drills. However, the pain is worth it though but I hated it.
Uh, you shouldn't be feeling pain when doing splits.
@@varanid9 how do you do it?
@@Stormtrooper--dx1xj Without pain? S - l - o - w - l - y. Also, use dynamic stretches, not static stretches. Sports medicine has found that, though static stretches increase flexibility, they also create scar tissue in your muscles which, when you stop stretching, makes you even less flexible than you were when you started. Dynamic stretches develop your flexibility with movement; bear in mind that, when athletes injure their muscles, it's not usually because they stretched too far but because their muscles didn't stretch fast enough. Another point is, don't bother developing more flexibility than you need for the kicks you're going to do.
@@joebrisado he was the only coach and the time schedule of the programs were simultaneous.
Tai Chi has a lot of "soft" moves, while shotokan karate is a lot more rigid it seems, both are very pleasing to see though
Thanks!
combining soft and hard moves like yin and yang
You used the title for an attention grabber then simply went on to defend your preconceived opinion. So I'll give my opinion. Mixed martial arts has exposed the weaknesses of many traditional arts. Does that render all non mixed styles useless? For combat YES! However other styles of training still have a place in the area of exercise, like tybo, jazzercise, aerobics, and walking.
Fan Yao is a spinning back punch that Comes from the Y axe. Guys go watch Wushu, stop saying a technique dont Work, take risks and figure out how to apply a Wushu move in a real fight. Which is what I did in my hardcore sparrings and they Work. By the way, Karate forms are literally baji Quan, Xing Yi Quan and Nanquan mixed.
bet this 'karate sensei' will get beaten by your average Joe in any MMA gym lol. All these traditional artists all talk but never practice sparring on a consistent basis will never be good at fighting no matter how good their techniques are. It's sad to see shotokan being reduced to what it is nowadays while in the old days the real 'sensei' would go challenge other karate masters on a frequent basis to test what works and what not, and sparring was intense the people got injured. Karate was designed to kill - but nowadays it becomes a sport like football it's fun to watch but useless in real life situation. Same with TKD and other eastern martial arts. The only exception are muay thai because they spar so often. Muay thai is probably not superior to kungfu/karate in anyway but it's got to what it is today because it constantly evolves to take in what works and eliminate useless craps. So many times I see karate people with their chin up, hands down because they don't teach you basic stuff like tuck your chin in karate. Even Lyoto machida adjusts his karate and when you watched him in the UFC only half about what he was doing resemble what karate practioners do, and look almost completely different from shotokan/olympic tournaments which just look dumb. Even Kyokushin is also reduced to punching people's chests while not protecting your head at all - like how is that even practical for 'self defense'. If you make it a sport, don't call it 'martial' art.
She looks so talented!
Indeed
She definitely is!
It's really extremely challenging, way harder than it looks. Way too hard for me.
I’m a yang style taiji teacher who teaches it for MMA. What the lady is doing is more of Wushu than taiji
Yes, she's doing Chang Quan stretching and basics. Nothing they have done yet is Taiji, that's in part 2.
@@Cailean_MacCoinnich He was referring to it as taiji, though. I think Gregory is right, and that she is an admittedly impressive Wushu teacher. I daresay the taiji form she shows him will be Wushu as well, rather than traditional taijiquan but we shall see. No disrespect intended to her though. It's all kung fu and that takes lots of dedicated work.
In Indonesia any stance is called "Kuda-kuda", Kuda meaning "Horse". So, yeah, I always chuckle a bit whenever people say "horse stance".
Anyway, just as an insight, I'd like to direct you to watch this UA-cam podcast about Chinese martial arts and "fake masters".
ua-cam.com/video/pEkyXowI5_A/v-deo.html
I watched it almost a year ago right around finding out about Jeese Enkamp's journey to China. From the conclusion, generally speaking, those "masters" aren't actually masters. They were charlatans. And according to another video that I watched, I forgot which (probably the same from the link I posted) one of them was even actually someone with mental problem; someone who suffered from a delusion on grandeur of sorts (I gotta say, I feel sorry for him because he was an old man). Anyway, I can't say that all masters aren't or are fake. I'm no practitioner myself. But, I guess we need to keep an open mind about everything, especially concerning martial arts, combat sports, and self defense. And, just like Bruce Lee once said, "Take what works, and discard what doesn't", or something. I don't really remember the exact line, but you got my point. 😅😅😅
Oh, and keep up the good work. I'm hoping you'd revisit Okinawa for us and go to Asato Dojo. And also give us more in depth history lessons concerning the styles and roots of Karate.
And lastly, if I may, please consider going to these guys' countries or at least make a podcast with them:
Rokas (Martial Arts Journey channel)
Iain Abnernathy.
Jeese Enkamp (another video with both of would be awesome!)
Maul Mornie (a Silat Suffian Bela Diri Guru, master in Bruneian silat).
And Cecep Arif Rahman (search him in The Raid 2: Berandal and John Wick: Parabellum).
Thanks for sharing and keep up the good work, Yusuke-san!
Alot of us werterners also refer to spice tea as chai when when chai is the indian word for tea/don't realise that saying chai tea is basically saying tea tea and find out the hard way when they visit india and ask for a chai and get served non-spiced tea not realising you have to say that you want a chai masala/spice if you want "chai tea"
@@justinfilipovic8939 😄😄😄 Context is really needed to bridge language barriers.
I’m a Boxer but I get so excited to see similarities in either technique or or approach of different martial arts, the Okinawan punches that you described we get taught to throw out punches the same way in boxing almost like a whip, releasing all your power at the and of the end of your fist for maximum impact, it’s so cool to see something like Taichi a martial art with so much history share similarities with my art and sport it’s just so cool!
those gong fu masters in those videos were much older than the mma guys. it wasn't a fair fight, neither age wise nor weight wise. i truly believe a young, well trained gong fu master can pose a challenge to any martial artist in a fight !
My master used to di Tai Chi as well,he was fascinated by the breathing metod.
He used to organize Tai Chi fight on a bridge between boats.
A few great martial artists say that calligraphy is very similar to sword fighting and legwork with martial arts so that was a great observation.
Over 40 years ago, when I first started my martial arts journey, I attended a Shotokan Karate class under the auspices of the late great Hirokazu Kanazawa Sensei. Even back then he was very forward thinking and had started to practice Taijiquan, and encouraged all his instructors to include Taiji into their daily regimen. the softness fluidity and circular motions of Yang Taiji perfectly complemented the firm more linear Karate. As teens we all wanted to fight, but we were also encouraged to attend the taiji classes. Kanazawa Sensei was a very wise Master who is greatly missed.
My friend practiced Yang style taichi and was the bull of San Quetin, not the town, the California State prison! Shows that it's how you practice, not what you practice.
Wow! Thanks for sharing!
True.
And Yang style seems to be the "gentle" style even among other tai chi styles. The martial aspects are more readily apparent in Wu and Chen style movements. One of the benefits of tai chi is that it refines your martial art movements to the nth degree, little ways to help with balance, energy, movement, posture. The finesse leads to a "first touch" that quickly develops complacency in the opponent (they think there's nothing there) who realizes that their defense was compromised, but that it's too late for a counter.
Hirokazu Kanazawa Sensei was also a practitioner of Tai Chi
:D Oh hey! My edits on the Wiki for Tai Chi showed up on the video. That's cool.
This Is freaking awesome.how daré people dis taichi
I have studied Tai Chi since 1971 and I have taught it since 1996. I have always been taught the Chuan version, that is the "fist" so my training has always incorporated the martial versions of this art. There is a lot to say. If, however, a person is not specifically taught the fight aspect of Tai Chi, their fighting will be useless and they will lose. In the end, and these days I have to only rely on my arms due to four knee surgeries over the years, but a good straight, a good hook, and a good upper cut along with feints, economy of movement, and strategic "listening", will go a long way in winning a match or in defending yourself. We also do push hands and the ol' school teaching is you learn one lesson after 1000 losses. That has been my reality. Shadow boxing is a must. Sparring is a must. No sparring = defeat. I was taught to do the form as if I had an opponent or opponents and to do push hands as if I had none. Very good training. Many Tai Chi people get all hung up on "chi" and think there is some magic that happens if a person does the form over and over again. If the form is done a lot, especially, for example, taking one hour to do the 108 at a low and wide stance, one will get flexibility, strength, power, and martial prowess. Many more aspects to this art, of course. I will be 69 in July and even after all my surgeries, including open heart surgery, I can still hold my own against opponents. One more thing: fighting for three minutes is forever. Most people have no clue about that and they have no training in conserving energy and not wasting it. Most people I have fought, run out of gas in less than a minute.
Tai chi is good for health,reflexes and flexibility just like Yoga. Tai chi alone isn't enough for a fighter, however if you know Tai chi it would be lot easier to learn MMA/Muay Thai as you will have flexibility in your kick and some reflexes.
Thanks for your opinion!
Learning Tai Chi Ch'uan, instead of Tai Chi for health & beauty is a very different activity. Finding teachers who truly know internal fighting skill and technique is not easy. You learned nothing of Tai Chi Ch'uan from this.
100%! I see no tai chi here, just dance.
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U might wanna check out adam mizner on youtube for the martial art kinda tai chi not the wushu competition type. Or even Chen xiao wang for the traditional Chen style tai chi
Thanks!
Thanks for the great video! And, of course, for such a fair and open-minded view of all of this 'MMA is better than traditional martial arts' thing, which I personally think is just... well, garbage. Such comparison is not needed and such view threatens the continued existence of a wealth of cultural heritage which is all of these generations-old martials arts more than the perceived efficacy of said arts as self-defense mechanism. I'm not any kind of active martial art student anymore and certainly never a graduate of any kind of style, but my few years practicing taught me that there's a huge difference between 'martial art' and 'combat sport' (of which MMA is one) and comparing the two by having representatives fight it out in a ring is like, uh... say, when a sprinter challenge a marathoner to a 200m foot race and the sprinter wins because he's faster, and goes on to say that, yeah, sprinting is a better form of running than marathon. So, ya know. And also, my wushu teacher drummed into our skulls that our rule number 1 is "never ever get into a fight!" (us being a bunch hotheaded teenage boys, that guy is a miracle worker!). What baffles me more is actually the fact that any traditional martial art masters would ever get involved in any of that stuff.
Oh, well, on to a cheerier topic, there are some huge differences between karate and tai chi or any other kind of Chinese martial arts beyond the easily observed differences in speed, forms etc. From my experience, the biggest one is the leg flexibility training. In karate, during leg stretching warm up the aim is to get the face to touch the knees; wushu aims to get the face to touch the tip of the foot, which is achievable by manipulating hips and pulling the legs in during stretching. When you do the warmup, you will feel that doing the wushu way cause more muscles to contract and the tendon behind the knee to get pulled farther, and it also engages the muscles on the back, and the shoulders and arms as well from the pulling motion. As for the result, you can see the difference quite clearly during the 'changquan kick' portion of this video; you can see how Inami-san seems to aim her kick on her own forehead while your kick send your foot above your head level. Additionally, such practice, as my teacher once explained, works wonder as a basis for any number of other wushu styles or martial arts that uses low, deep-rooted stance as it strengthens the legs and loose hip and knee joints to allow practitioner to sink lower during stances while keeping balance; so basically, the loosened (might be using the wrong term here) hip and knees joints allows more range, and the strengthened leg muscles brace against the body weight during when doing low stances so equilibrium is maintained. My karate education was a bit problematic (our dojo was a mess), so my knowledge of karate is very limited, so my apologies in advance if I got my facts wrong here.
Thanks again for the great video! Keep up the good work and have fun practicing! :D
PS: do you know that 'changquan' means 'long fist'? Changquan punches makes sense now, right? XD
You are on the right track. Cheers.
OH god I hate to be 'ONE OF THOSE GUYS!' but I can't let this go, at 7:30 - you are doing the bo stance. Looking at it from head on, it's too narrow, she could push you slightly from other side and you would fall sideways (the did this to me ALL the time when I started learning southern kung fu styles). EVEN in these wide bow stances your feet should maintain about shoulder witdth, otherwise you'll fall over to the side - a common error.
5:35 Ooof that long punching - and those long form kicks - it looks like long fist wushu to a slightly suspicious degree - like there's direct influence from chinese performance wushu. I would be worried about using the punch with any power because of hyper-extension of the elbow? BUT I could be missing something. But I will say this - all of what I am seeing here is so great for flexibility and balance, you'll move like a ninja-cat-thing if you do this a lot. Which is why even into old age it doesn't hurt to shoot for this kind of performance and I am thankful to some of my old wushu training I did in my 20's for it. :D But I have seen other styles of combat tai-chi that don't look quite as flashy. ANY kind of taichi teaches relaxation, balance, and control, and has a great kinesthetic benefit.
I tried Tai Chi once because I felt I needed a soft style to balance the hard styles I did. I found it too slow. PS: Please invite me to the wedding.
People often attribute Taijiquan as "Soft". But Chen Style, the original form of Taijiquan, is often attributed as "Soft" and "Hard", "Slow" and "Fast". For example, I would assume what you learned was nothing like this: ua-cam.com/video/xNHwlJ66z0o/v-deo.html
@@ShadowParalyzer No, it was more like a slow motion exercise that you see older people doing in the park. Still, I prefer the direct strong fighting styles like the Kang Duk Won karate foundation that I have along with the Joe Lewis fighting system.
@@Docinaplane Most likely, you were exposed to Yang Style as that is the most popular style of Tai Chi because the Yang family were the first to publicize their art. Most health and spiritual versions of Tai Chi uses a watered down, mutated version of Yang Style.
@@ShadowParalyzer I do appreciate your very knowledgeable information. Thank you!
@@legolam4271 I watched some of the Yang form on your channel. That is similar to what I briefly did. I can see the martial arts movements, but at the time, I felt that I was doing much of the same movements with what I was training , but with speed and power, which supported my goals to be a fighter and use for self-defense.