zira being one of the white lionesses from kiros' pride would be interesting, it means scar and zira first met each other as enemies and going from enemies to allies to lovers eventually could be a good story
Cool video and theory! I originally thought Zira was one of the white lionesses from Kiros' pride. But nowadays I'm more inclined to believe that it's more likely that Zira is a normal-colored lioness in this live-action universe as well. To stay true to her original character. I believe she made a small cameo at the end of the 2019 film. When Simba was making Scar confess that he killed Mufasa, a lioness arrives just as the "camera" moves away from Scar and Simba and gives a wide view of Pride Rock. All the lionesses allied with Sarabi and Nala were already there, so the lioness who arrives later can only be Zira. She was taking care of Vitani and Kovu (newborns) in a nearby cave. Then she heard the commotion outside and went to see what it was. She couldn't participate in the final battle because she didn't have the strength, having just had her cubs and her lionesses were hunting.
@sujeidyalvarez No, this is a fan theory. He is Zira biological son according to all official sources. Plus, also officially, Nuka, Vitani and Kovu himself are biological siblilings, children of Zira with unknown lion.
@@sujeidyalvarez Yeah, Kovu has always been Zira’s son. Fans just made up a theory that Kovu was adopted and stolen by Zira because apparently Nuka wasn’t fit to be his heir.
It would be very interesting if the writers are planning to remake "The Lion King 2: Simba's Pride." with the white lioness as Zira and the main villian in fact I would like to see what Nuka, Vitania and Kovus would look like as white lioness too.
I Like this theory but can a lion/lioness live for that long? Cant be possible and different coloring too Edit: even if she is the daughter of one of these lionesses, the coloring and the eyes 😭 Edit 2: I’m not hating I’m just saying what I think
The lioness outsiders could have been Mufasa, Takas/Scars and Sirabis age at the time so when you think about it the lion most probably could have been Zira because if scar and Mufasa lived till lion king two if they weren’t killed why couldn’t zira have lived until then. Just my opinion
It dose make sense but everyone needs to remember that in mufasa she was younger not older that’s why she can track well and the lioness with mufasa wasn’t his mother it was taka’s mother she just took mufasa in.
If this is true, than if Zira and her lioness are related to Krios and his pride, and if Taka found them, than why wouldn't he either lead them in attack on Mufasa and his pride, or just take them and go back to where his original pride lived rule there and you know what I can picture the scene lets says Mufasa, Sarabi, Zazu and the pride are relaxing when they see Scar coming with the outsiders behind him, which causes everyone to stand and when Scar reaches Mufasa. Mufasa: Scar what is the meaning of this. Zazu: Isn't it obvious he trying to take over with the left over rebel form Krios pride. Scar: Oh no Zazu you couldn't be more wrong, in fact I think this is going to be happiest day of your life. Sarabi: What do you mean Scar. Scar: What I mean Sarabi is I've come to say goodbye. Shocking everyone as Scar says. Scar: Why so surprised, I would I say in a place where my greatest mistake is held against me, I've tired so hard to gain your forgiveness brother and you along with ever animal in this kingdom treat me no better than a hyena, so I'm leaving" And as Scar walks away he says. Scar: And Mufasa, my name is Taka.
Kiros also kinda reminded me of a male version of Zira. Zira could also be related to Taka's old pride or be a distant relative of him, hence why they look so much alike. Was also very glad that Mads Mikkelsen voiced Kiros in both the original and Danish version, this guy is literally gold!
@ not really. Zira is younger than Scar, and older than Simba and Nala. So that cub would make sense, because Scar, Mufasa and Sarabi were young and Simba and Nala weren’t born yet.
I love this idea of Zira being in the movie and I think that even Scar could be one of them because he joins Kiros Pride in the movie as well in the Animated lion king movie you can see that Scar also scratches in pride rock
Wait one of the white lionesses is Zira, she was in the new mufasa the lion king story the whole time, that explains why she hated simba after years of exile?!
I think that's her mother, and Zira will be Kiros's daughter, and i don't think she is born in this movie yet, during the scene on the snowy mountains, you can notice that at least two of Kiros's females are pregnant, maybe one of them is Zira's mother, and since Mufasa won, he would have exiled the rest of Kiros's lionesses to the outlands, since they didn't respect the circle of life.
I was thinking this as I was watching the movie. Scar could actually be Kovu’s father in the live action Lion King 2 now since he’s not Mufasa’s biological brother. But because lions in the wild only live about 10 years, with lionesses living up to 15, at the end of The Lion King, Scar maybe had only a couple years left anyway and wanted an heir. So during his reign as king he went back to the outsiders and found Zira who held a grudge with Mufasa and his pride for killing her mother when she was only a cub during the events of the Mufasa movie. Zira had maybe another 6 years tops when Scar returned and decided to give Scar his heir to the throne. But things changed when Simba defeated scar the grudge was redirected to Simba.
I did see that Kiros scratched the tree like that and played the part where scar scratched the wall of pride rock in the Lionking in my mind but I forgot about zira
This was a great video. I like the theory. It's very creative and thoughtful, but not very likely. If this were true, it would make Zira at least twice as old as Simba and nearly three times older than Kiara. I just don't think she would have lived that long. 🤔
A moral of lion king is: the outsider lions are cannibals. Kiros' had his lionesses kill one of his failed servants. Then he and his pride fought Mufasa & Taka/Scar Zira's lionesses were eating Simba's lionesses and she threatened to kill one of her own lionesses.
I agree with the theory that Zira is related to Kiros and worked for him when he was alive. She has to be around Taka's age as well. However, I think they’ll change some things, she will not have any real connection to Scar. Scar was never a good leader, and while it might be heartbreaking to imagine him never having a partner, that’s part of what makes him a villain. It wouldn’t make much sense for Zira to seek vengeance for Scar. Instead, I believe she’s more likely to be obsessed with Kiros, dedicated to his legacy, and determined to avenge him since he was a good leader and Mufasa killed Kiros. She will try to take revenge from Mufasa’s son, Simba.
I have a VERY out there, but I think plausible theory. Please tell me what you think, even if you just say I'm crazy. During the fight with Kiros' pride, Sarabi finds a group of female lions and asks for their help. These lions it seemed then join with Sarabi and Mufasa to form the Pride Rock Pride. One of these females had a single cub with her. I think THAT cub grows up to become Zira. And before anybody says that cub was Nala, Mufasa and Sarabi did NOT have Simba until they were Full Adult Lions, and in the Mufasa movie, they're more-or-less teenagers. And Nala and Simba seem to be the same age more-or-less as well. I think this cub we see is Zira, with my idea being that she grows up knowing what Scar did, but somehow either takes pity on him or he somehow convinces her that he wasn't completely in the wrong. And once Scar takes over, because she grew up being the only lion that seemed to "like" Scar, he gives her special treatment compared to the rest of the lioness. And when Scar dies, she has now been basically brainwashed into thinking he was the True King, hence why see leaves/is banished from Pride Rock. Finally, if she IS this cub from the end of the Mufasa movie, then this would make her the "Perfect Age" of Lion to have Nuka, Vitani, and Kovu with their Age Gaps but not also not making her an "Old Lion" by any means. I know this is a lot, but with it seeming like Disney may make The Lion King 2 into a "Live Action" Remake in the near-ish future, Zira feels like the only "piece of the puzzle" missing and this idea of mine, to me anyways, seems like just the "Disney Surprise Villain" way to Introduce her and explain her in these Live Action movies' canons.
Actually Zira looks like she could be related to Sarabi , they have a similar coat and eye color, and in most prides many of the females are related, I know we don't really know about Zira or Sarabi I wish they'd gotten more spotlight over the years tbh
Please do a theory of Zira being Kiros's daughter, Please? Zira and Taka could've met eachother on the snowy mountain, she would also be a similar age to Taka to make sense, although Kiros might have had Zira as his daughter, he prefered Shaju since he is a son, a rightful heir in his eyes. And don't says that it would've been too short. Well Zira might've wanted a friend since she might have wanted a friend and a potential future mate after hear Taka's desires to become a king, she decided that he was perfect.
ok just gonna say... they're called the /outlanders/ NOT the outsiders in the second movie. not to mention they seem older than Mufasa and Taka ( being teens at that point while all the outsiders seemed like adults ) and Zira would have had to be either the same age or a little younger in order to have survived all of simba's elders in the second movie and still be able to fight well and idolize scar prior to his death. honestly i think it'd be more likely Zira was that young cub in the end of Mufasa. ( unlikely but who knows. ) the cub was the right color and had a dark stripe on its head, although to be fair most of the lions have that stripe to some extent lol. also if Scar had " fallen in love with Zira " he wouldn't have kept wanting Sarabi to be his queen when Zira was obviously still around, that doesn't make sense in a typical disney fashion imo.
@martinmatejka4190 they / are / outsiders but are referred to as outlanders because they are from the outlands, while simba and his pride are the pridelanders, because they are from the pridelands.
Interesting theory, but I don’t think it’s zira because she’s around the same age as scar and they became lovers and they supposedly met in their young life
I think she is from Kiros pride but I think she wasn't born yet, after kiros died maybe she was the daughter of one of the females later down the line, and maybe she was told the story of he mufasa and how they got banished from milele and THAT'S what built the hate in her. Milele was supposed to be Kiroses but he lost and the rest of the females where forced to live in the outlands ❗❗ 👀 guess we have to wait and see what Disney does with the next movie
She can't be one of kiro's sisters because they both died....I think his whole pride did...I assumed zira and kiros were going to be related though because he acts so much like her.. but nah
I like that they made them white lions because originally they are supposed to be darker than the pride once but nowadays it will be seen as racist so in the doubt they made them whote 😂😂😂
I think the true lion king fans that are watching my channel have seen the movie by now, but i waited a while posting about it so i wouldn't spoil everyone. And i also putted it in the title, for if people don't want to be spoiled🙂
zira being one of the white lionesses from kiros' pride would be interesting, it means scar and zira first met each other as enemies and going from enemies to allies to lovers eventually could be a good story
@@Retro_Cafe it’s not Zira. They’re Kiros sisters and have different names than Zira. Zira is younger than Scar and a bit older than Simba and Nala.
Thats true
@@UzairSpears are you blind there were more lioness in kiros group then his two sisters- it could have been an background lioness
Cool video and theory! I originally thought Zira was one of the white lionesses from Kiros' pride. But nowadays I'm more inclined to believe that it's more likely that Zira is a normal-colored lioness in this live-action universe as well. To stay true to her original character.
I believe she made a small cameo at the end of the 2019 film. When Simba was making Scar confess that he killed Mufasa, a lioness arrives just as the "camera" moves away from Scar and Simba and gives a wide view of Pride Rock. All the lionesses allied with Sarabi and Nala were already there, so the lioness who arrives later can only be Zira.
She was taking care of Vitani and Kovu (newborns) in a nearby cave. Then she heard the commotion outside and went to see what it was. She couldn't participate in the final battle because she didn't have the strength, having just had her cubs and her lionesses were hunting.
Kovu is adopted
@sujeidyalvarez No, this is a fan theory. He is Zira biological son according to all official sources. Plus, also officially, Nuka, Vitani and Kovu himself are biological siblilings, children of Zira with unknown lion.
@@tiagoleitemarcal6689 my bad lmaoo I don’t why I thought you meant he was scar’s.
@@sujeidyalvarez Yeah, Kovu has always been Zira’s son. Fans just made up a theory that Kovu was adopted and stolen by Zira because apparently Nuka wasn’t fit to be his heir.
@ that’s a messed up theory 😂
It would be very interesting if the writers are planning to remake "The Lion King 2: Simba's Pride." with the white lioness as Zira and the main villian in fact I would like to see what Nuka, Vitania and Kovus would look like as white lioness too.
Their names are different though. Maybe related though. BUT, Scar got a nickname aswell. Who knows.
I Like this theory but can a lion/lioness live for that long? Cant be possible and different coloring too
Edit: even if she is the daughter of one of these lionesses, the coloring and the eyes 😭
Edit 2: I’m not hating I’m just saying what I think
Lifespan wise a lioness can live for 16 years in the wild meanwhile males live for around 8 or 10 so you may have a point
Zira could be one of the cubs of one of the outsiders
That’s what I’ve been thinking
The lioness outsiders could have been Mufasa, Takas/Scars and Sirabis age at the time so when you think about it the lion most probably could have been Zira because if scar and Mufasa lived till lion king two if they weren’t killed why couldn’t zira have lived until then. Just my opinion
0:21 bro thx for running it
I can’t wait for this!! Love your theories!!
It dose make sense but everyone needs to remember that in mufasa she was younger not older that’s why she can track well and the lioness with mufasa wasn’t his mother it was taka’s mother she just took mufasa in.
If this is true, than if Zira and her lioness are related to Krios and his pride, and if Taka found them, than why wouldn't he either lead them in attack on Mufasa and his pride, or just take them and go back to where his original pride lived rule there and you know what I can picture the scene lets says Mufasa, Sarabi, Zazu and the pride are relaxing when they see Scar coming with the outsiders behind him, which causes everyone to stand and when Scar reaches Mufasa.
Mufasa: Scar what is the meaning of this.
Zazu: Isn't it obvious he trying to take over with the left over rebel form Krios pride.
Scar: Oh no Zazu you couldn't be more wrong, in fact I think this is going to be happiest day of your life.
Sarabi: What do you mean Scar.
Scar: What I mean Sarabi is I've come to say goodbye.
Shocking everyone as Scar says.
Scar: Why so surprised, I would I say in a place where my greatest mistake is held against me, I've tired so hard to gain your forgiveness brother and you along with ever animal in this kingdom treat me no better than a hyena, so I'm leaving"
And as Scar walks away he says.
Scar: And Mufasa, my name is Taka.
I read this while hearing their voices in my mind.
Don’t forget that she also threatened to kill her daughter vitoni ! Which is even worse than neglecting, or slapping your children
Can't wait to see your video. And your videos always make me think.
Kiros also kinda reminded me of a male version of Zira. Zira could also be related to Taka's old pride or be a distant relative of him, hence why they look so much alike. Was also very glad that Mads Mikkelsen voiced Kiros in both the original and Danish version, this guy is literally gold!
Didn't know to busy watching sonic 3 lol.
Zira is too young to be one of Kiros lions
She is Scar’s age
@@mjjcontentIt makes me believe that Zira is Kiros's daughter
she could have Been a later lion cub one of the lionesses could've been carrying
I think she's one of the off spring maybe with The Strange lion?
Zira is right about scar that he is meant to be king instead of mufasa
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My theory is that zira is the young lion cub from the pride of lionesses Mufasa adopted.
I believe Zira was the lion cub at the end of the movie, the lions of Milele
I thought that was implied to be Nala
@@annefrankgacha1942 That can’t be Nala. Mufasa, Sarabi, and Taka were just teenagers. Not even fully grown. She couldn’t have been born then.
Zira is supposed to be around the same age as scar.
@ of course it’s not Nala. Nala is in the same age of Simba, Simba wasn’t born yet, Mufasa and Sarabi were younger.
@ not really. Zira is younger than Scar, and older than Simba and Nala.
So that cub would make sense, because Scar, Mufasa and Sarabi were young and Simba and Nala weren’t born yet.
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I love this idea of Zira being in the movie and I think that even Scar could be one of them because he joins Kiros Pride in the movie as well in the Animated lion king movie you can see that Scar also scratches in pride rock
Take is the actual good guy he saved mufasa’s life 4 times
Wait one of the white lionesses is Zira, she was in the new mufasa the lion king story the whole time, that explains why she hated simba after years of exile?!
I think that's her mother, and Zira will be Kiros's daughter, and i don't think she is born in this movie yet, during the scene on the snowy mountains, you can notice that at least two of Kiros's females are pregnant, maybe one of them is Zira's mother, and since Mufasa won, he would have exiled the rest of Kiros's lionesses to the outlands, since they didn't respect the circle of life.
I was thinking this as I was watching the movie. Scar could actually be Kovu’s father in the live action Lion King 2 now since he’s not Mufasa’s biological brother. But because lions in the wild only live about 10 years, with lionesses living up to 15, at the end of The Lion King, Scar maybe had only a couple years left anyway and wanted an heir. So during his reign as king he went back to the outsiders and found Zira who held a grudge with Mufasa and his pride for killing her mother when she was only a cub during the events of the Mufasa movie. Zira had maybe another 6 years tops when Scar returned and decided to give Scar his heir to the throne. But things changed when Simba defeated scar the grudge was redirected to Simba.
Reason why this cannot happen:
ZIRA IS AROUND SIMBAS AGE
maybe she was unborn or a very young cub?
@@Valeisgay zira is around 5 years older than simba vro
I did see that Kiros scratched the tree like that and played the part where scar scratched the wall of pride rock in the Lionking in my mind but I forgot about zira
This was a great video. I like the theory. It's very creative and thoughtful, but not very likely. If this were true, it would make Zira at least twice as old as Simba and nearly three times older than Kiara. I just don't think she would have lived that long. 🤔
I believe she is one of the outsiders from the movie
Zira's Outsiders: lions banished for being loyal to Scar
Kiros' Outsiders: lions abandoned by their original prides because they were hated
A moral of lion king is: the outsider lions are cannibals.
Kiros' had his lionesses kill one of his failed servants. Then he and his pride fought Mufasa & Taka/Scar
Zira's lionesses were eating Simba's lionesses and she threatened to kill one of her own lionesses.
also they probably ate Azibo the lion who survived when Shaju was killed by Mufasa
I agree with the theory that Zira is related to Kiros and worked for him when he was alive. She has to be around Taka's age as well. However, I think they’ll change some things, she will not have any real connection to Scar. Scar was never a good leader, and while it might be heartbreaking to imagine him never having a partner, that’s part of what makes him a villain. It wouldn’t make much sense for Zira to seek vengeance for Scar. Instead, I believe she’s more likely to be obsessed with Kiros, dedicated to his legacy, and determined to avenge him since he was a good leader and Mufasa killed Kiros. She will try to take revenge from Mufasa’s son, Simba.
Hey Disney maybe make a movie about Zira and how she met Scar. Instead of making remakes of old movies
Hi this is amazing I have a video idea what If scar never betrayed mufasa
Bet yall didnt notice the outsiders in mufasa have a print on there back leg resembling the lion guard one.
She looks much better, and deadlier as a white lion.
I have a VERY out there, but I think plausible theory. Please tell me what you think, even if you just say I'm crazy. During the fight with Kiros' pride, Sarabi finds a group of female lions and asks for their help. These lions it seemed then join with Sarabi and Mufasa to form the Pride Rock Pride. One of these females had a single cub with her. I think THAT cub grows up to become Zira. And before anybody says that cub was Nala, Mufasa and Sarabi did NOT have Simba until they were Full Adult Lions, and in the Mufasa movie, they're more-or-less teenagers. And Nala and Simba seem to be the same age more-or-less as well. I think this cub we see is Zira, with my idea being that she grows up knowing what Scar did, but somehow either takes pity on him or he somehow convinces her that he wasn't completely in the wrong. And once Scar takes over, because she grew up being the only lion that seemed to "like" Scar, he gives her special treatment compared to the rest of the lioness. And when Scar dies, she has now been basically brainwashed into thinking he was the True King, hence why see leaves/is banished from Pride Rock. Finally, if she IS this cub from the end of the Mufasa movie, then this would make her the "Perfect Age" of Lion to have Nuka, Vitani, and Kovu with their Age Gaps but not also not making her an "Old Lion" by any means. I know this is a lot, but with it seeming like Disney may make The Lion King 2 into a "Live Action" Remake in the near-ish future, Zira feels like the only "piece of the puzzle" missing and this idea of mine, to me anyways, seems like just the "Disney Surprise Villain" way to Introduce her and explain her in these Live Action movies' canons.
Actually Zira looks like she could be related to Sarabi , they have a similar coat and eye color, and in most prides many of the females are related, I know we don't really know about Zira or Sarabi I wish they'd gotten more spotlight over the years tbh
Video idea: Rani's life/story.
great idea!!! id love to hear about that maybe even some lore outside lion guard
Great thing👍👍
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Zira is younger than mufasa, these lioness every one were older
Dope vid
Imagine Zira owned by one of Gotham City's gruesome baddies!
Please do a theory of Zira being Kiros's daughter, Please? Zira and Taka could've met eachother on the snowy mountain, she would also be a similar age to Taka to make sense, although Kiros might have had Zira as his daughter, he prefered Shaju since he is a son, a rightful heir in his eyes. And don't says that it would've been too short. Well Zira might've wanted a friend since she might have wanted a friend and a potential future mate after hear Taka's desires to become a king, she decided that he was perfect.
I never seen Mufasa but i can see i this theory.
Love the theory but her being related to the lionesses would make more sense as she would’ve been roughly the same age as mufasa and scar
Pions just maje territory like that
6:30 Scar never made contact with Zira & the Outsiders. He was only shown forming an alliance with the hyenas.
Zira's age doesn't match with her timeline but she could of been a cub in mufasa
Bit of a weird question but, Can you do a theory on why kion has a different nose as a baby cub then he has now?
I see another fact in the theory
Zira has a stripe in her forehead and only one white lioness had it in mufasa the lion king
Simba banished scar himself
If Zira were to be anything she would of been closer to Simbas age than scars
She's not. Your theory doesn't make sense. Besides, Zira isn't an albino lioness...
I like this theory but I think it's more likely that she the decendent like granddaughter maybe
did anyone noticed mark of the lion guard when kiros said to kill azibo?
ok just gonna say... they're called the /outlanders/ NOT the outsiders in the second movie. not to mention they seem older than Mufasa and Taka ( being teens at that point while all the outsiders seemed like adults ) and Zira would have had to be either the same age or a little younger in order to have survived all of simba's elders in the second movie and still be able to fight well and idolize scar prior to his death. honestly i think it'd be more likely Zira was that young cub in the end of Mufasa. ( unlikely but who knows. ) the cub was the right color and had a dark stripe on its head, although to be fair most of the lions have that stripe to some extent lol. also if Scar had " fallen in love with Zira " he wouldn't have kept wanting Sarabi to be his queen when Zira was obviously still around, that doesn't make sense in a typical disney fashion imo.
Their called outsiders in the second movie ,not outlanders ,
@martinmatejka4190 they / are / outsiders but are referred to as outlanders because they are from the outlands, while simba and his pride are the pridelanders, because they are from the pridelands.
Zira was never around or even born that time yet
Make a video with kiros son ❤❤❤❤ ❤❤❤
Yes I think she could be one of the outsiders from the movie mufasa.
Interesting theory, but I don’t think it’s zira because she’s around the same age as scar and they became lovers and they supposedly met in their young life
There’s no way it can’t be zira if you don’t know zira died in lion King two Simba’s pride
I figured she was an outsider
The Mufasa movie included Kiara & the Outsider lion pride but no Zira. OR even Kovu.
Hello
Out sider are white not yellow
Taka is not the powerful villain he once was i think one of the outsiders must be Zira i think Zira must have been in the new Mufasa movie
Zira
Basically kimba 😂
Yeah
I think she is from Kiros pride but I think she wasn't born yet, after kiros died maybe she was the daughter of one of the females later down the line, and maybe she was told the story of he mufasa and how they got banished from milele and THAT'S what built the hate in her. Milele was supposed to be Kiroses but he lost and the rest of the females where forced to live in the outlands ❗❗ 👀 guess we have to wait and see what Disney does with the next movie
She can't be one of kiro's sisters because they both died....I think his whole pride did...I assumed zira and kiros were going to be related though because he acts so much like her.. but nah
She might be
That could be possible
Is Kiros the father of Zira? Thats the real question.
Lmao that female is not Kira she has a name and she died
She's the male's daughter
But the outsiders in the mufsa lion king movie were white. Zare's Fur is not white?
I like that they made them white lions because originally they are supposed to be darker than the pride once but nowadays it will be seen as racist so in the doubt they made them whote 😂😂😂
BRO UR Literally Spoiling the movie for other people
I think the true lion king fans that are watching my channel have seen the movie by now, but i waited a while posting about it so i wouldn't spoil everyone. And i also putted it in the title, for if people don't want to be spoiled🙂
@ ok thanks
Why do u talk like that
Mediocre theory.
Zira