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GG-1 horns. For those that never heard them. WELL, HERE IT IS, from 1977
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- Опубліковано 15 січ 2012
- This is a short clip of three ex-PRR PC and Amtrak GG1's passing with the Leslie A-200 horns blasting. There has been a good many inquiries of what the GG-1's horn sounds like. First clip is a South Amboy on the NY&LB, the other two clips are on the NEC at North Elizabeth, NJ Station. Clips where taken with a Kodak 8mm sound movie camera in 1977. Thanks for watching. Jackmp294.5™...
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It must have been hard as an engineer to not be using that horn all the time!
I Would Blow The Horn Constantly If I Was An Engineer Too 🤣🤣
I grew up in Philly in the fifties. We'd hear the diff'rent horns n' know a steamer from a GG-1 up to the new Diesels. Late at night it was a symphony of faraway horns n' the sound of the el rumblin' by.@@alvit123
Seeing GG1s dating from the 1930s and 40s in action, along with passenger equipment dating from the 1908-1930s still in service in the 70s was something I wish I could of seen myself, in person. Great videos like this exist, so we can enjoy the action again and again.
You and me both. I sure do wish I was around in the 70s to still see F7's, PA's, GP7's, and GG1's in service right alongside then-new SD40-2's and C30-7's.
@@vincentdow5899 Part of that was because the 70s was a really bad time for American railroads- most of them didn't have the money to replace that stuff, so as long as it still worked and was more or less railworthy, they ran it.
To Jerry Wick. The GG-1 was for its time the best locomotive I have ever run. Here's why. Catenary wire to pantograph to transformer to traction motors. Also what many may not know. The GG-1 had spoke wheels,in between the spokes were ticklers(teasers),that were used to start the GG-1 moving. The GG-1had A.C. Traction motors. When you start to get the GG-1 moving the ticklers would get the GG-1 moving, until around 15 mph then the traction motors would kick in. You would know this happened by the tap switches kicking in. If you were on the # 1 end of the GG-1 you could plainly here the tap switches engaging, by the loud popping noise they would make. I never in my career of running the GG-1, not being able to make it from point A to Point B
+Ronald Melhorn Thanks for sharring that information there Ron. If it wasn't for those frames, they would probably still be running. One heck of a motor for sure...
The only con about operating 1 of those is you only have 845 HP.
@@JamesEllison69 The G was rated at 4620 HP continuous, but like all electric locomotives could exceed that rating for short periods. Often that was double the continuous rating, and then some, for 10-15 minutes. At that rate a G could easily break 10,000 HP!
Great to see 4877 in action in this video. GG-1s sounded like ships charging through the night -- forging ahead on an iron ocean.
Well said, and very poetic!!!
Classic Leslie A-200 horn that was also used on many of our early streamlined diesel locomotives. I've always liked this horn. Some refer to these as blats. The nickname "Honkers" has been catching on over the years and seems more accurate as it's a metaphoric reminder of the sound that large geese make.
I wish more modern trains had that horn.
SP GS-4 4449 still wears an A-200
@@Kahless02 Yes, it's funny seeing the reaction on some onlookers faces whenever the engineer on 4449 blows the honker ;-)
A-200 was popular for old days
Not a a200, the Gs had e2
Between the sound of the horns and that cyclops headlight those things scared the hell out of me as a child.....especially on dim evenings.
Damn, that sounds like a fog horn! Appropriate for such an exquisite locomotive.
Sound like me blowing my nose.
Thanks for posting . Reminds me of my dad dropping me off near Princeton Junction in the late 60's to watch GGI's fly by while he did service calls. They were great locomotives and at least we have saved some of them, not like the New York Central Hudsons which not one survived even for static display.
Thank You for posting this important piece of history. The GG-1 was my favorite locomotive when I was a little girl. It just looks like it means business!
Going to be honest. Never heard the sound of a GG1 with audio from the time. The horns honestly sound quite terrifying with the lighting conditions and camera film quality.
I can't imagine waking up to the sound of this at like midnight. They're just terrifying yet the sound is awesome.
A fine horn for what might be the best designed electrical locomotive of all time. It's not really loud, but it has a good presence to it. You know you're not going to forget a sound like that.
I loved the sound of those horns. I sure do miss them. Thanks for watching...
Not loud? Then you've never heard a Leslie A200 in person! It'll rattle your brain
I had the honor and privilege to run (operate) these locomotives from 1974 until their retirement.(in my opinion the GG-1 was the best locomotive ever) I and another locomotive engineer also made the last engine change at South Amboy N.J. on the North Jersey Coastline from (electric engine E-60 General Electric #967) to (diesel electric F-40 (EMD) General Motors Electro motive Division #4120). I was running(operating) the F-40 # 4120 from South Amboy N.J. to Bayhead yard N.J.
Ron did you ever run south of Baltimore to DC during the '70's. If so I saw you go buy because I lived near the mainline and used to watch the black PC GG1's all the time! I don't really remember ever seeing the Amtrak or Conrail scheme, although I am sure I did. If you have any cab photos can u post them? They have a nice GG1 at the PA RR Museum in Strasburg, and you can enter the cab when an attendant is there. I do not recall what number the G is there.
What do you think made the GG1 superior? Curious to hear from an engineers standpoint!
@ Ronald Melhorn We need to get
your historic recalls in a video interview.
Did you know Cliff Underwood, who in the last 2 years often skippered Old Big Red 4877? He and Big Red were stars of the 1984 movie "GG1: An America Classic", available on YT in 4 parts, starting with ua-cam.com/video/tC6W0XEqOLw/v-deo.html
@@JerryWick everyone that I spoke with told me that it was really smooth, slow start but once it got into speed it was fast and stable. Pretty amazing for a locomotive that big and old
Im an engineer that drove a gg1 back in the 70s. Thank you video owner that brought back the memories from back in my days🙂God bless🙏🙏
Thank you tylerw. I heard the G's were pretty tight and cramped inside. I sure do miss them, and happy I caught them in action in freight and passenger service. I took my very young son, maybe 7ish at the time, to the N Elizabeth NJ station the last week of the G's operation. I told him to pay attention to those beauties, that he will never see one operating again. He has never forgotten. Many Christmas ago, my son gave me a painting of of a father holding his sons hand on a station platform at night, as a GG1 roars past. Lots of memories of those old relics. Thanks for watching, and God Bless.
As a GG1 lover myself *even though im 20* i think they're amazing, iconic, elegant, and underrated in my opinion
I was born in 76’ my grandparents served on the PRR, my uncle served on the PennCentral, and my parents served on Conrail. I cab rode aboard PRR 4800 (then Conrail 4800 in her bicentennial livery). And the one thing I remember from my childhood the most is blowing 4800’s horn when we approached grade crossings. I was 4 years old, but my family being a PRR Family; I knew the horn sequence by heart!
That’s awesome, my grandpa worked on steam locomotives for the Pennsy out of the Enola yard and my uncle worked for Conrail in the 70’s and 80’s out of Enola. My uncle first worked on the electrics - GG1’s and E44’s and got to take the throttle and shuffle them around the yard to the maintenance area. He also remembers working on that GM10 and told me it was nicknamed the Big White Elephant
Also, forgot to say that he then got trained on working on EMD 645’s, so a lot of SD40’s and 45’s.
I wasn't born yet, but now I know what a GG1 sounds like. Thanks.
Thanks for watching, and glad I could help out with a visual, and the sounds of a long gone era.
I was fortunate to be in GG-'s when I worked for Amtrak. No question they could haul a train at whatever speed you wanted. I dearly miss those days in the cab. Imho the best 'motor' we had, a bit difficult to see out of especially on curves, but a class act to the sad end.
I like the A-200 "honker" horns. The remind me of streamliners.
Great video, I remember watching many a GG1 going through Seabrook Md on the then Penn Central. Those old horns bring back good memories. Thanks for positing.
@bluecomet390 They are Long gone!!! there was a total of 140 built by the Pennsy from 1934-1943. All are retired, and the last one ran in 1985. There are 15 saved from the scraper, including the protoype #4800. It was built by Baldwin Locomotive works in their tender shop. They built the frame, running gear and totally rivited body, and shipped it to GE in Erie to be completed. Thanks for watching...
I saw a pair of GG-1's hauling frieght in the desert in New Mexico or AZ, along I10 in the late 1980's.
I remember these things in Metuchen and Rahway back in the day. They really did sound like this.
Nice one jackmp294.5! Thanks to you GG-1's are my favorite electric locomotives ever! You are one of the only people with real moving footage of a real GG-1 I can find! Thank you so much!
Elizabeth, NJ in da house! Thank you for posting!
I actually got to ride behind a GG-1! It was on Amtrak's Broadway Limited between Harrisburg and Penn Station in December of 1972. The horns on this video sound exactly like I remember the locomotive horn on the Broadway sounding. Neat video!
Thanks for uploading! The GG1 horn sound from the ESU sound library is pretty accurate.
now i rmemeber when my dad was still here he was like 4 or 3 good old days of amtrak and my dad
God I wish I was alive when these were still rolling.
Used to watch them staging at Woodside Queens for Penn Central, Amtrak and Conrail back int the 70s when I'd take the LIRR Port Washington line into or out of Penn Station.
Wish we could go back to those days. Thanks for watching...
Me too! At Queens Plaza in LIC.
I grew up hearing all about the GG1's from my mother, and she always told me about the bone shatteringly loud horn that she loved so much. THANK YOU for posting :)
this really helped my build its horn sounded exactly like it
0:46 it’s good ol 4877 who used to have Tuscan red paint
To qrt763 thanks for your response. I know that I have pictures of the cab of the GG-1 some where.I also have pictures of when the GG-1s and E -44s were going to scrap. I have lots of pictures of the railroad. Pictures of when Conrail was scrapping all the old Alco's and Baldwin diesel locomotive's. I will take a look around for them and send you copies of I can find them.Also when NJT formed they had acquired some E-44S that were stored at Elisabeth Port N.J. They are probably still there. Keep in contact. I miss working for the railroad. P.S. I don't recall the GG-1s having any logo on them after Conrail formed. I think Conrail just painted over the Penn Central Logo on most of there GG-1 locomotive's. As far as Amtrak I don't remember.
the creepy horn really fits for the gg1!
Amazing video! Sounds like a ship
I have saw the gg-1s in action on the NEC in the 1970s
Not what I expected. Thank you for posting.
My Grandfather ran these Washington to Trenton until retirement. PCBs in transformers spelled the end.
Damn, never heard horns like that, but they sound like a buzz from a fighter jet like the A-10 Worthog
beautiful wholesome sound like a ship
The gg1 was powerful and extremely fast, they called easily, easily do 120 mph
@AmtrakBoys Every one of them! Been taking videos since 1975. Thanks for watching...
Cool! I haven't heard a horn like that in forever!
UPRR11 Never watched Warner Bros cartoons?
ACtually, if you know anyone who has ample time and money, there are two abandoned GG1 locomotives formerly under Penn Central freight service in an abandoned spur in Oneida, New York. The units are whole and seem to have been avoiding rust pretty well given their situation. They may not be able to run but an exterior restoration for static display is possible.
If I ever get the money, you best believe I'll try to get one running.
It's incredible seeing those absolute GOLIATHS moving as fast as they do
It's all so glorious. If only the transformers used a non-PCB cooling oil so that the preserved examples might be able to be run in museums.
the horn show from the Penn Central amazing catches Jack.
Michael Scott
Oh wow that’s 4877 in the last clip!!!! Before the repaint
Как же он необычно и круто выглядит.
OMG THATS HOW THEY ACTUALLY SOUND?!!
Love the old horns those sound amazing
woah this the coolest thing i ever seen
School field trip from Baltimore to Philadelphia 1976 sound like the horn from the road runner and coyote.
There are a couple of GG1 locos rusting away in a train graveyard near Cooperstown Junction, NY
AWESOME!!!!!!! :)
I miss these sleek beauties
Thanks for the video. They sound sort of like a huge ship's horn.
That's a sound that you are not likely to forget
The fist one sounds awesome
love those GG-1's, nice video, and nice horn
Holy cow!!! That one slipped by me! Thanks for pointing that out. Correction made, and thanks for watching. Have a great day...
Scary horn
Much nicer sounding than today's electronic horns, that's for sure!
I would like people to actually restore them to service cause it's a pretty slick engine.
Is the overhead catenary the right voltage for them? So much has changed, maybe they're totally obsolete same as the DL&W Electrics.
g bridgman Yep..And it's amazing how in 1977,Amtrak took GG-1s from Penn Central when it was long gone,and had them for a long time..But the E63PC had to take over D:
+g bridgman sounds like a ship's horn
+g bridgman today's horns aren't electronic, they are still true "air horns", they just have multiple chimes
I've heard them more times than I can count! Geez...I've ridden behind so many of these in my day (1955-1976)!! But this horn has a lower pitch than I remember. I've found other GG-1 vids with the horn as I remember! Think maybe this one was out of tune?
My best memory: Riding in the first coach and seeing that BIG headlight on that G! Felt I was being stared at!! As a kid that was FIERCE!!
P.S. Got photos of orange Amtrak work trains I'll soon post. I think there's a GG-1 in the bunch!
Recently I went to the Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania and saw my first two actual GG-1s, being 4800 outside clad in just black and the 4935. It upset me after seeing pictures of Ol' Rivets, (4800), that she wasn't in her Bicenennial livery and inside with her sister, 4935, who was clad in the Pennsy's beautiful livery.
Yes, but its somehow very soothing to listen to. Normally I dont like horns like these, but i like them.
This would be perfect for a train themed horror movie
Wish I could have seen her in action awesome video!
Thanks, Glad you enjoyed it, and thanks for watching...
LOVE IT NICE CATCH
Nice!
Every English-speaking countries outside of the US call it a "electric locomotive". Plus a 40-something Amtrak conductor referred an AEM7 as "electric locomotive" when I took the train last month.
I just saw an early 70s police action movie and these locomotives were in one scene.
I always thought they had the famous hoot air whistle like the Pennsys electric commuter trains from NYC to Washington D.C. service. Its subsidiary the Long Island Railroad had the same hoot air whistle like the commuter trains. By the way the Broad Street Subway in Philadelphia has the same air whistle when it was new until they were retired.
Deep very deep
Awesome horn
Now, that's a horn.
unique sounding horn
The good old days.
@nukinfuts1000 No C&O U30C's. Sorry, wish I did. Have a C&O U25B somewhere, and a U30B in CSX paint. Thanks for watching...
The iconic Leslie A-200. Not exactly melodious like my favorite five chimes on the Southern an ACL, but unique in their own way!
Great catches. Wish I'd had a chance to ride behind one of these. Are any running today?
My man, yesss!
At 0:08-0:12 is that green car behind the GG1 a de-motored MP54?
Where's the one that sports the seal that says, "Buy US Savings Bonds"? I remember that GG1 and waited for it to come up the tracks.
There was one, but I never caught it, sorry to say. Thanks for watching...
Great video! would you by some chance have recordings of the MP54 electrics with motor sound captured?
+David H. Thanks Dave. I only have one short clip of the MP54's. Stupid me! I saw them all the time, and when I was filming this stuff back in the 70's, a Super 8mm sound cartridge, only held 3-1/2 minutes of film. Even back then, to buy the filnm and process it was expensive. So I saved the film for G, E33, E44 powered trains. YES! Now I'm kicking myself...Thanks for watching...
+jackmp294.5™ Sadly, whatever is left in preservation of the MP54s, E33s, E44s, and GG1s will likely never operate again, due to a lot of factors. The NEC is still for the most part at 11, 000 volts. I've been trying to find Green New Haven MUs in action, being fully aware that one car is known to have survived.
I wonder if there was ever a GG1 that had it’s leslie A200 replaced
There might have been a possibility but i honestly doubt it.
Kool vid! 😎👍
Scary looking train....
Are any of the preserved GG1's operating?
None are operational. 4935, which is in Strasburg PA, is the only one which may still have it’s original transformers. The transformers contained oil which contained PCB’s and were drained and most have had them removed. Also, they are no longer electrically compatible with the NEC due to current changes, which was another reason they were retired.
Hey wait a sec! That last GG-1 is "Big Red", No. 4877!
Long before it became "Big Red", which was in 1981. From then until her retirement in October 1983, she was the pride and joy of engineer Cliff Underwood, who wrote a song about her. Part of the 1984 movie "GG1: An American Classic", available on YT in 4 parts, starting with ua-cam.com/video/tC6W0XEqOLw/v-deo.html
4875 and 4877 are in this video.
Sounds like a ships fog horn
sounds like an ATSF EMD F7A
I love all of your old videos, did you take them all?
GG-1 is the King!
No doubt about it.
jackmp294.5™, why? It has lots of wheels and it’s big.
thanks jack and i know what the next set of horn i wanna own are the A 200
That train sounds like a boat horn
It sounds more like a ship
Sounds very similar to the Italian made E-30/32 classes of Chilean State Railways Company.
cool
leslie A200