Review: 13-inch MacBook Pro (Without Touch Bar): Is it worth a look?
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I bought a 13” MacBook Pro without the touch bar. Things are fine.
Mark Metzler I won a bid on a 2016 MacBook Pro 13in non touchbar 256 gb for $414, should I buy it? Is it worth it?
@@phillyaccord5635 no it doesnt
still?
I think i might be the only one that prefers this one over the touch bar one
JJ. C ur not. I tried the touch bar at Best Buy and it felt so gimmicky
You’re not the only one... it’s definitely a gimmick!
I would buy the base but if I had a choice for the touch bad I will go for it
Nope
I just want normal keyboard and NO Touch Bar, is that so hard to do?
I personally think the touchbar is a useless overpriced feature
I agree it adds like $200!
Kalen1457 That’s why I’m planning to buy the one without a touch bar, it’s 200+ for no reason, on such a gimmicky feature that won’t even be practical. I right now own the 13’’ for 2015. Time to get change
Johnny Wynn hey how does the 2015 model hold up? Do you had any issues with it?
W1cH0 99 It holds up pretty well! I have no issues with it, it’s fast and smooth and does all what I need as well as PORTS, it’s the best laptop I’ve owned so far, but I’ve the 128GB SSD model, which I don’t find enough nor carry around an external SD so despite the lack of ports on the new one I’m planning to buy The 128SSD model of it, the 2017 MBP Silver :D in a few months
I just got the 2017 model without touchbar last Friday after my 2015 MacBook Air died. It's great! The ports thing aren't really an issue anymore. Most stores sell the adapters nowadays. Went to my local Euroland (comparable to Dollar Tree) and got myself a USB-C to USB 3.0 hub for 3 bucks and it works absolutely fine. You don't need to buy everything OEM cause that'll just set you off so much money.
Finally a great, in depth objective review. Thank you!
Just picked up a used one, great piece of machinery.
This is the best review of the new MBP so far, no other review provide as much detail, thanks you!
I miss Steve Jobs
This laptop is perfect to me. I wouldnt trust a touch bar long term with function keys
Just bought the MacBook Pro a couple of weeks ago and I'm so in love with it. I've had a HP for the longest that only cost $400 and it was time for a new laptop. It was slow, unreliable, and old. This is definitely a great investment and I'm going to use this laptop to my advantage!
i love how he's being so gentle
In the UK, the MacBook Pro base model used to be £1149, now the base model £1499. Which isn't even the one you'd want to buy. The base touch bar model is £1749. In USD that's $2166.29. God damn.
Brexit sure must suck.
Avais Hussain base model now starts with 256 gb ssd unlike before which was 128 gb so there isn't really a difference there if you add the extra cost. And for the touch bar one, well, it has better processor and graphics unit and 4 thunderbolt 3 so the price hike is to be expected. But it's true, they are overpriced. Just not overpriced in comparison to last years, they are overpriced a bit in general
No.. Everything got a price bump unfortunately. Same model.
Admiral Ashik When I got my MacBook 256GB SSD, i5 2.7GHz 8GB 1600mhz, it was £1199. The base model MacBook Pro with no touch bar is basically a glorified MacBook Air with upgrade and new design.. as per all reviews conducted by UA-camrs. The MacBook Pro with TouchBar is the true base MacBook Pro. And that's £1749 for 256GB SSD. Sooooo make your conclusion :) I really believe they've pushed the pricing too far. Even with the upgrades of skylake etc they have still gone too far because as tech gets older it gets cheaper.. if you base upgrades MacBooks on the fact that the new mac has the latest technology. But they have that every year therefore they should be worth over 2000 just on base models.. there's overpricing but there's logical overpricing too.. apple haven't logically overpriced but used their trickery MacBook lineup as a way to get more money while overpricing. Lol their marketing and pricing is a class none are better than 😂😂
Avais Hussain I didn't notice the euro mark, but for usd at least it's fairly comparable to the previous years.
Thanks for the overview. I appreciate the additional technical information as well. Nicely done.
right now I'm using the mbp 2016 without touch bar, it's my first Mac and I love it. I got it for university as I need a pc and my old windows machine is just horrible. it was quite a hefty price considering you get a underpowered machine in comparison to windows machines, you don't get the new touch bar and have only two usb c ports which might seem like a bad deal for most people, but I can deal with it, in fact I gave this buy a long thought and knew that I wanted this one. I really liked the style and look of the chassis, the trackpad, the keyboard, the Retina display, that it look too clumsy with the removed ports (I don't need usb sticks often and have for those cases a small usb dongle), the power is ok as I can imagine that the toucher models are better but it gets every single work done and never disappoints me (I'm an engineering student and use a lot of windows in bootcamp to do my assignments for class). it would just have been cool if apple gave you some kind of fabric to clean the display for such a expensive price as it gets dirty very easily or deliver it with a set of dongles, but I guess that's just me :D
i think the set of dongles is a good idea, for the price the dongles cost to make, maybe a multipack with a few different ones for one price, they do screw you a bit with the buy this for this and that for that. The price thing for the actual mbp will always have haters, tbh, so what. i hear all the time, but the dell xps, DELL XPS. soo much better, but the build quality is nowhere near mbp, and this comes from a f***ing xps user.
How much storage do all your engineering softwares take with the windows petition? Trying to decide between 128gb or 256gb for MechE
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neji636 Can I use Microsoft Word/Power Point on the MacBook? To do projects etc...
Great review, usually don’t watch videos this long but I went through this whole thing good explanation on everything never got bored with the video excellent job
Thanks for your review, Awesome as always!
Simply the best review of anything ever! Thank you. If only everyone reviewed things like this!
You nailed this review. Great work.
I'm buying the 2015 Macbook Pro model instead! This new lineup looks more like a downgrade than an upgrade! This is so disappointing.
this is one of the best reviews >> ever :)
Apple should release Mag Safe adapter for USB Type C cable.
please post link
that is a fantastic idea...
of what?@@terrry9709
Astounding review buddy. I love your objectivity and fairness
yay. i just bought a MacBook Pro 2017 CPO 3 days ago. and 2017 model still be the king :D
great review. thank u for all the work
Great review Jeff
I just upgraded from the MacBook Air to this machine and this video was really helpful in explaining what I am dealing with!
I really like this review. Thanks!
Best Buy has this laptop currently for $1249.99 which is completely insane! It's cheaper than what they're selling last years model for....
I got the same MacBook in silver without the touch bar that was a year ago around August before my classes start on September 5th as college student. Ironically I am watching your video from my MacBook Pro, and it has been working pretty well especially the keys feels super nice. Also, it is my first MacBook and laptop I'm thinking of getting an actual laptop sleeve for my MacBook Pro for extra protection since I cannot trust with just keeping a hardshell case on my computer. There must be extra protection.
Excellent review
Very good review and on point
Really really good review
You don’t even know how much this video helped me😂😂
Good Review 👍🏼
removing the megsafe was an error... hated it
Love my 2013 13"MacBook Pro. Considered getting this one as I don't need the touchbar. It is hard to justify this over the one that I already have. I use normal USB daily and use the HDMI and SD card reader every day as well. Plus I am happy with the speed of mine as well. It works well and there is nothing wrong with it. Looks like I am staying put for now.
@9to5Mac You said you know how to re-enable the start up chime and disable the auto boot when you open the lid? Those are my #1 annoyance with the new generations of MacBooks. Can you please make a video on how to do those two things?
Thank you for your review. Very well done.
I was wondering if you have any suggested adapters that facilitate at least two USB(a) and one HDMI outputs/inputs?
I will only be using the adapter at home, when connecting my mouse + keyboard + monitor on it.
nice build. Apple pro software works on there. but forget running something like premiere pro on these macs. they don't have the video cards from nvidia to run it.
I was actually waiting for a 2019 refresh of the MacBook Pro 13-inch Retina model but Apple rather killed the whole line along with the 12-inch Macbook. Rather than pay extra for the Touchbar, I went for a higher capacity SSD with 16GB of RAM. No regrets! I love it!
great job dude
great video(s)! Congratulations and thanks!
Could you suggest a good HDMI cable?
There are a tons of them in an incredibly wide variety of prices and specs.
Also, please keep suggesting USB-C docks that comes under your hands!
All the best
good review.. liked it!!
You gotta hand it to these guys for the attention to detail in this review. I've had the SAME EXACT issue with 3 finger drag, btw, on my 2016 MBP. Hopefully a software issue.
Good review.
Switched from a 2015 12" MacBook and I LOVE the Pro!
My friend said the extension cord is in the box under the plastic.
I love the video. I'm not a fan of the touch bar and all that stuff and this the most appealing macbook to me for 2017. I'm hoping for a positive refresh in the fall to further encourage me to pull the trigger on this one. Thank you!
Watching from my rocking 2012 Macbook Pro here. Still the best!
What happens if you connect 2 MacBooks with the USB C cable, does the 2nd one shows as mass storage and start charging it? Thanks and greetings to you from Colombia (South America)
In general, you can view the Other Mac's hard drive and share stuff between macs. Power transfer only happens if one mac is very low and the other is about 50% (I could be wrong).
When you connect 2 macs, it should make a window come up asking what you want to do. You're able to do stuff like transfer files, browse the system, copy your entire system to another (like an upgrade), diagnose another machine, install a new OS, and maybe more if they updated that functionality. In theory, you may be able to share power with the mac that has the lowest battery. If one is connected to a power source, it may channel energy through that as well.
USB-C should be a smart connector, meaning that it can tell what you're trying to do based on how you plug the cable in. If you plug into Mac1 first and then Mac2, it may detect that as that direction and bring the file window up on Mac1. It should bring another on Mac2 asking for authorization.
@@11tushaar BIG BRAIN
Hi Jeff, I see you get the new models from macs to iPhones. I am wondering if Apple sends you these products for review purposes only and you end up returning them. Alternatively do you buy them and what do you do with older models? Thanks brother
Mine is arriving tomorrow. I got space Grey. Ooo I’m exited
Going to buy with since college started
Great video Jeff! I have a question about the Mac Pro.... Do they keys show signs of wear easily? Just because I don't want to spend that much money on one for the keyboard to go all shiny and worn looking after a year or so
Fun fact: Up to the last generation they had been writing "Professional high performance notebook" on the boxes, at least in German. Now look at what it reads.
was steht da jetzt? :D
"13inch Macbook Pro"
***** naja, wenigstens haben sie die alten modelle noch im sortiment, aus berechtigter angst vor einem totalen flop
They could have make a dedicated thunderbolt 3 port as magnetic for charging only. From my mid 2014 13 inch MacBook Pro retina it's not worth it
the power adapter extension cable is included in the box!!! you just need to open up the second layer of the box...
Just bought this one, love that the touchpad is bigger, and overall better looking. But, I really miss the USB-port and hdmi-in
Good Micron storage（Unremovable LowPowerDDR3 2133). I'm using 17 non-TouchBar now, high cost-efficiency 2K screen.
Hey Jeff, can you make a video updating us on how your iPhone leather case has aged so far? What does the normal wear and tear look like on it? Or maybe just post a picture of it on twitter or something? Thanks
I really miss the back light lit Apple logo... hit like if you really too...!!
Gonna have dongles hanging out my ass after buying this
Dongle up your bongle
SuperT720 stop BSing, those were there already
No for most peripherals you just have to switch cables.
The extension cable is in the box...under the plastic white thing holding the usb c cable and apple tickets etc.
Just bought this model. Thin and light but more powerful than the 12" MacBook with a larger/better display. That said it's too damn expensive. I only bought it because there was an open box one on Best Buy's website for $1,149 (And I still had a $250 BB card so that got the cost down to $900). Before anyone dismisses it out of hand because of specs . . . you really should do a hands on. The PCIe SSD in it is wicked fast and the display is flat out gorgeous.
MacDongle Pro
tokekkk 😭😭😭
Crazy but right... McDongle
Hahahahaha
lol
tokekkk Best and most fitting definition ever. 👍😄
BOUGHT MINE AND I LOVE IT. (256 gb and etc...)
Are you going going to test the next level up with the touch bar and show the bench scores comparison again? And if possible could you compare it with the 2013 15" MacBook Pro retina with the 750m graphics card? I'd be happy to supply the scores for comparison if needed.
I own the 2017 model of the same with kaby lake processor and I love it so far.
They've pretty much removed everything that was *PRO* about MBPs!
Certainly!
Best screen in class. Best speakers in class. 2x 40Gbps ports allowing to connect FOUR 5k displays to a LAPTOP with 10h battery life. Intel Core i processor which is standard for high end laptops these days and maybe a bit underpowered on the graphics side. But overall I don't see how this is NOT a pro laptop. :)
1ctrlaltdelete1 isn't this model supposed to be the air replacement?
They then should never call it Pro.
1ctrlaltdelete1 1. Boy, you sound bitter. You could just NOT buy it, you know... 2. Two displays PER PORT, so FOUR. Bam. Show me ONE other laptop which can do this put of the box. Pro it is.
Like Cameron said, it's not stated, but the extension is under the plastic molded compartment.
This is the one I ordered with 16GB/512GB. I didn't feel like spending another $300 and pushing the price over $2000. It is out for delivery via FedEx today so we will see what I think. It is replacing a late 2013 MPBr13 base model with 8GB/256GB.
Awesome video!!!
i came and gave a like just bc you made sure you didnt clickbait
its insane how thin This macbook is i love it for school its so light
The extension cord is in the box under the plastic. You have to rip it out
Really? I thought that was a joke.
It is you idiot...
Ryandomized How am I an idiot? I have not purchased the MBP to check for myself you idiot.
IT IS A JOKE...
Because, it's Apple. Not only do they meticulously make their products, they meticulously make the gosh darn packaging. So then do you really think they put it randomly floating around underneath? Where is your head?
I was having a bit of a dream looking at the online store earlier, what I found sorta interesting is that the touchbar one starts with a 256GB SSD and the touchbar one a 128GB. If you're looking at getting the non-touchpad and then add in a 256GB SSD it suddenly looks a lot closer to the entry-level touchpad one at that point.
Edit: I know that's why it's cheaper, etc., just for me with the extra ports, etc. on the touchbar model, taking the SSD into account made the extra to step up to the touchbar seem more sensible. Though why they insist on limiting the entry level machine to two ports, I dunno. Seems kinda tight.
Apple logic, to save 3 millimeters that you will never notice during actual use they force you to give up on connectivity and speed. Point is that you will never notice that the notebook is a little thinnier, but you will definitely notice how inconvenient is to use a dongle for EVERYTHING.
Also, apparently they are having some really serius problems with dongles right now, not to mention the CRAZY prices of various dongles even after the discount. Damn for the price of the computer they should all come free...
3mm was never an issue I think. Check lenovo yoga 900. It's the same 14.9mm and it contains USB-A port right there. Removing ports was only due to apple "courage".
Very well said. I remember when I was a craftsman I had a sign that read: "Please don't ask for a rush job. All rush jobs come out shitty. Months from now you will remember it was a shitty job but not a rush job". Maybe some pretzel logic can apply that here.
Hi, I watched other videos that showing that the extension cable for your charger is underneath the plastic thingy where they rest the MacBook, it's inside the box. Would you confirm it?
i will maybe get one, thanks for informations
Can someone answer me this question? I currently own a 15" MacBook Pro which is hooked up to an Ultrawide LG 34UC97 Thunderbolt display most of the time. Will this monitor power the new Macbook Pro if I get an Thunderbolt 2 to 3 adapter through only one cable, which would be my dream setup?
best review so far :)
I have my own and have had it for about a month. No regrets I love it so much
I dont really think you need a touchbar honestly its just a little extra cool feature
That extra long charging cable ís there, you just have to remove the plastic from the inside of the box.
good video brother
The extention cord is hidden under the plastic, shake the box and you'll feel it. LOL
I don't kno if I should buy it. All I want to do is use final cut on it but I'm afraid it won't work very well. Your thoughts?
im still buying a mac for their security and reliability both in hardware and software.
The extension cable is in the box underneath the part where the MacBook sits on along with the charger
Would you recommend it to someone who wants to upgrade from a mac mini?
It’s absolutely masterpiece
There is actually a hidden extension cord unearthed the MacBook packaging under the white thing that holds the macbook and dongles in place.
they dropped all the super handy features: no magsafe, no cut out for the glowing apple logo, no card reader, no regular usb, no hdmi, no tb, no cable bracket on the charger, 4 io ports vs 6 io ports + charging port on the old one
-> by doing so, they dropped the production costs... for a much higher end price.
crazy apple, who is going to buy that shit?
You mean the laptop that has out-sold all other laptop models this year already? Yeah, who would buy that!
cool cat how exactly is a glowing apple logo handy
None of those things drop production price. The new design would put production costs through the roof. Next year this same Macbook will be cheaper and I bet on that, its basic business.
Lmao from someone coming from a hp that means nothing to me. This MacBook is badass and so worth the money imo
Is it fast enough for usage of fcpx? And editing some videos in 1080p? Compared to the basic model of 2015 which one would you suggest ??
Hello friend, do you recommend this macbook pro for an industrial design student?
looks lackluster compared to old one or touchbar one. Would rather buy the slightly cheaper older version
Do you think that the new 2017 model of the without touchbar would be able to handle 4k video well if you selected the upgraded processor to the i7?
Did anybody have any problem with those keys?
good job on the review, very well done. Pass on the product though, might consider the one with the touchbar as at least it has 4 outputs...
Is the MacBook display noticeable brighter?
Yes.
It is noticeably brighter!! , I don't keep mine close to all the way turned up
Look under the tray in your box for the three-prong extension cord; another reviewer found it under there. You'll need to cut the glue.