There are also players that never played for my rivals that I would not wear. An example: I am a Chelsea fan, but you will never see me wear an Iniesta Spain jersey because I keep remembering that night in Stamford Bridge in 08/09 and also Barce were kind of our European rivals. That night deeply hurt me.
I think at that point in time, Chelsea and Barcelona were rivals. which is why many Chelsea fans dislike Barcelona to this day, and many Barcelona fans dislike Chelsea(which they might) I haven`t interacted with enough Barcelona fans to know, but it`s definetly possible.
2004 to 2012 Barcelona vs Chelsea was tense. The closest thing to European rivalry to City vs Madrid nowadays. Across 12 games in those 8 years, they were basically evenly matched
Madrid fan and both clubs have relations because they gave us Ronaldo and have other links etc but I don’t rate them that much no more cus the ten Haag bum
I think in this conversation there’s no one correct answer. Since HP and you Cams are friends of some of these players or close to them etc etc it’s always going to be circumstantial and never black or white
These types of things are why England never win anything lol. These petty club rivalries end up extending outside their clubs and even on the international stage. You never see other nations getting affected by this sort of stuff.
R9 played for Inter, AC , Real Madrid and Barca. He’s respected everywhere. Even though he played for Real, Barca fans will never forget that season he had for them. They would probably wear his jersey. It really is circunstancial
@@Jorge-lh6px yes but they would wear an R9 Barcelona jersey which is my point. Regardless of the fact that he played for Real. It would depend on how much the fan really hates Real, but he played for Barca even before he went to Real anyways
Yes i could, because these players are perhaps playing for a rival club, i dislike the club and not them as players. like i`m an AC Milan fan, i hate Juventus. But i could wear a Marchisio Italy jersey, but i wouldn`t wear a Juventus jersey with Del Piero on it(who too me is one of Juventus most iconic players, it would just feel wrong.)
For myself as a United fan I personally I wouldn’t wear a shirt that had a rival player on the back of it if that player has done dirt for his club n I can consciously remember it🤷🏾♂🤷🏾♂for example I'd never ever wear a Silva shirt from when he was at Valencia cah he’s a City legend but I'd wear an France kit that had Henry on the back Henry cah I wasn’t old enough to have been watching football in the late 90's/early 2000s when our rivalry with Assna was at boiling point😅😅 as for the top 10 prem foreign goal scorers I came up with Salah, Mane, Drogba, Son, Lukaku, Aguero, CR7 n Henry🤧🤧
Thought about buying a Messi Argentina shirt but them boys to racist for me. I might get a Yamal Spain kit though but I would never wear any atletico players kit
As a Madrid fan, I will never wear a messi jersey but I will wear a ronaldinho brazil jeresey just coz hes one of my favourite players that got me into football. But I am not spanish so I won't wear any jeresey of iniesta xavi and them lot;
I'm a British Egyptian and united fan. I spent about a week in Egypt in October explaining in broken Arabic why I didn't want a shirt with Salah on the back. I love Salah and it makes me hate Liverpool less than i should, but I would never wear a red shirt with Mo Salah on the back
I wholeheartedly believe that I would rather go without a shirt, even without a bra if I had to, rather than a rival player’s. Active or retired, I don’t care. Call me petty, call me childish but it is what it is
I strongly dislike Arsenal, but if i became a father and my kid became a professional footballer at absolute top level, i would wear their jersey and support them regardless of the team they would have played for. It`s such a small chance to even become a pro player at the PL, Serie A, Ligue 1, Bundesliga or La Liga level, that i would support them no matter what. Like even becoming a pro at a mid table level club in any of those leagues are such a massive accomplishment.
Bun Real Madrid. I rate Barca more since they promote youth players like United. Madrid just be cheating throughout UCL, whether it’s Nani getting sent off, or Vidal, or Cuadrado to CR7 scoring offside goals like it’s the 1890s 😂
Brother you must've not been around during the Pep Barca days cause the shit they got away with against Arsenal, Chelsea, Inter and even Madrid in the UCL is wild.
@@De3dSh0t u let British media and Twitter merchants manipulate it. Barca should’ve had 2 pens vs Chelsea, Etoo wrongly offside on a 1v1 and Abidal ghost red card. But the media spun the whole ting 😂. Van Persie wasted time at the Nou Camp, deserved double yellow. What happened vs Inter or Madrid? I know Barca had a goal ruled out wrongly offside in the first leg vs Inter.
@@VelianFootball brother you can make the same arguments for Madrid lol, against Bayern Vidal got a pen he never should have and missed, Lewa's goal was from an offside, Nani literally kicked Arbeloa in the chest, you can say he was going for the ball but he still nearly took his head off (reminds me of Mane red Vs Ederson when he hit him accidentally and got sent off) Decisions often go both ways but people remember the ones going the way of the victor, but pretending Barca didn't get decisions their way is beyond naive.
@@De3dSh0t I agree the Vidal pen was bs (even though it hit Carvajal’s arm and refs pick n choose when to use the handball call) but 1.) he missed 2.) CR7 scored two offside goals 3.) Vidal got sent off for a clean tackle. How can you equate the 1 pen Bayern got (& missed) to THREE game deciding decisions 😂? And Lewa never scored in that tie so idk what game you’ve been watching. Nani was looking at the ball, back in 2013 they weren’t red cards. We saw De Jong do it in the WC final. Don’t apply 2024 rules in 2013. Reasonable judgment was allowed back then, it was obvious Nani wasn’t trying to kung fu kick on purpose. But yet again, these 50/50 calls all seem to favour Madrid. I’m not pretending about anything, you listed examples of games and I’ve countered all of them. You haven’t given any definitive, blatant cheating for Barca like I have with Madrid.
@@VelianFootball Vidal missing doesn't change the fact the pen was given, i.e a wrong decision. And Lewa didn't score but he played a part in going for the header with Ramos from an offside position which directly led to Muller scoring. Secondly, they did give reds out, because everyone knows and argued that De Jong should've been sent off for what he did against Alonso and said the ref was wrong, also Mane did it in 2018. And about Barca, even tho some things did go against them in the first leg against Chelsea as you've mentioned, you can't tell me far more obvious things didn't go against Chelsea in the second leg, there were literally 4 beyond obvious errors in that game. Van Persie got sent off because he shot the ball 3 seconds after the whistle because he didn't hear it and Arsenal were one up at the time and then Barca scored 3 against a 10 man Arsenal team. Against Inter Thiago Motta got sent off for a BS decision and despite Inter going through that doesn't change that. Against Madrid Pepe got sent off in the first leg at 0-0 when Alves spun like a fidget spinner and faked an injury going on a stretcher and appearing completely fine after exactly 60 seconds😂 Btw, I'm not a Madrid fan, and as you said, they've more than had their fair share of BS decisions going their way, but so have Barca, they BOTH benefited a SHIT TON from refs favouring them.
Great video! Mahrez is indeed an Algeria legend on the pitch, but he will always and still come after Zidane, Mbappe, and Benzema in terms of Algerian rooted players.
All week we had discussion on Arsenal/Man City Darks
This episode is so refreshing thanks
There are also players that never played for my rivals that I would not wear. An example: I am a Chelsea fan, but you will never see me wear an Iniesta Spain jersey because I keep remembering that night in Stamford Bridge in 08/09 and also Barce were kind of our European rivals. That night deeply hurt me.
I think that’s a ‘European rivalry’ only Chelsea fans perceive.
I think at that point in time, Chelsea and Barcelona were rivals.
which is why many Chelsea fans dislike Barcelona to this day, and many Barcelona fans dislike Chelsea(which they might) I haven`t interacted with enough Barcelona fans to know, but it`s definetly possible.
2004 to 2012 Barcelona vs Chelsea was tense. The closest thing to European rivalry to City vs Madrid nowadays. Across 12 games in those 8 years, they were basically evenly matched
Are Real Madrid aware of this brotherhood with United ?
Man United is that little cousin that thinks he is best friends with you
Yes I'm a Madrid fan myself and almost every Madrid fan loves MU too
Madrid fan and both clubs have relations because they gave us Ronaldo and have other links etc but I don’t rate them that much no more cus the ten Haag bum
I think in this conversation there’s no one correct answer. Since HP and you Cams are friends of some of these players or close to them etc etc it’s always going to be circumstantial and never black or white
Club and country should be looked at as 2 different entities
Ask Expressions if he would wear a Campbell England top, for the culture.
Guys wear football shirts and think they start turning into the players…
Just wear what you want bro😂😂😂
HIT THE LIKES
You my friend are an agent of chaos 😂
These types of things are why England never win anything lol. These petty club rivalries end up extending outside their clubs and even on the international stage. You never see other nations getting affected by this sort of stuff.
its a type of arrogance premier league and english people have. nThey think their stuff is the best but truly its not the case.
R9 played for Inter, AC , Real Madrid and Barca. He’s respected everywhere. Even though he played for Real, Barca fans will never forget that season he had for them. They would probably wear his jersey.
It really is circunstancial
I don’t think a Barca fan would wear his jersey for other clubs.
@@Jorge-lh6px yes but they would wear an R9 Barcelona jersey which is my point. Regardless of the fact that he played for Real. It would depend on how much the fan really hates Real, but he played for Barca even before he went to Real anyways
As long as that kit looks nice ...get me one😂😂😂...but we know deep down which team we support fully.....
Loved this episode😂😂
I really think the love of the game should come first.. Regardless of what club the player played for.. with exceptions, obviously..
Real Madrid fans defo had the “when an ugly person calls you twin“ moment after the first statement
Yes i could, because these players are perhaps playing for a rival club, i dislike the club and not them as players.
like i`m an AC Milan fan, i hate Juventus.
But i could wear a Marchisio Italy jersey, but i wouldn`t wear a Juventus jersey with Del Piero on it(who too me is one of Juventus most iconic players, it would just feel wrong.)
For myself as a United fan I personally I wouldn’t wear a shirt that had a rival player on the back of it if that player has done dirt for his club n I can consciously remember it🤷🏾♂🤷🏾♂for example I'd never ever wear a Silva shirt from when he was at Valencia cah he’s a City legend but I'd wear an France kit that had Henry on the back Henry cah I wasn’t old enough to have been watching football in the late 90's/early 2000s when our rivalry with Assna was at boiling point😅😅 as for the top 10 prem foreign goal scorers I came up with Salah, Mane, Drogba, Son, Lukaku, Aguero, CR7 n Henry🤧🤧
Would the boys wear a Fernandinho top from Brazil,especially after the train ride cams had with him?👀
@culturecams would you wear a Riyad Marhez shirt👀
I'm sure Lyes would
@culturecams if you had a family member make it as a footballer at Liverpool or Arsenal, would you wear their kit? Question goes for HP too
I think I’d wear a rival players kit from before they went to the rival, so as a Chelsea fan I’d wear a Madrid Ozil or Atleti Aguero
Thought about buying a Messi Argentina shirt but them boys to racist for me. I might get a Yamal Spain kit though but I would never wear any atletico players kit
As a Madrid fan, I will never wear a messi jersey but I will wear a ronaldinho brazil jeresey just coz hes one of my favourite players that got me into football. But I am not spanish so I won't wear any jeresey of iniesta xavi and them lot;
It's like saying if you are a korean arsenal fan, you can't wear Son's korean jersey? Cmon now xddd
I’m a chelsea fan, family is majority chelsea and I had that French Henry top on as a teen like it was the only shirt I had 😂
Thought about buying a Messi Argentina shirt but them boys to racist for me. I might get a Yamal Spain kit though
I dont blame anyone who does but i couldnt myself, my loyalties lie with liverpool if ygm, its ride or die
as a barca fan i would never wear any kit that has a real madrid players name on it, unless its a retired legend like a france zizzou kit.
As a Madrid and Spain fan i wear my Spain Iniesta longsleeve happily
That topic did not deserve a whole episode 🤣🤣 swtich it up a bit lads
HAHHA PINERO MASTERMIND KICKING IN YOU KNOW
Will never wear another clubs shirt
wearing a player national jersey is valid
I'm a British Egyptian and united fan. I spent about a week in Egypt in October explaining in broken Arabic why I didn't want a shirt with Salah on the back. I love Salah and it makes me hate Liverpool less than i should, but I would never wear a red shirt with Mo Salah on the back
Harry waffles a lot lol
Bro hamez is their GOAT
I wholeheartedly believe that I would rather go without a shirt, even without a bra if I had to, rather than a rival player’s. Active or retired, I don’t care. Call me petty, call me childish but it is what it is
Its worse cos u have pure hatred for opp teams 😂 , you will feel like ur beefing urself if u wear their shirt , players n nations i'm with Cams tho
Would you wear an Arsenal RvP top as a United fan? I would
Ian wright has been cancelled by the emotional arsenal fanbase, its ok to wear a ian wright top
Friends, Family over rivalry. We don't know the players relationship but lets hear your takes
Would never wear a Richarlison Jersey as an arsenal fan but id happily wear a Kaka shirt , Roberto Carlos and more as a Barca fan
HP burning like the hot sauce at the end
RIP Varane
If my son was a footballer and played for Arsenal…… I would still never wear an Arsenal shirt even with his name on the back!
I bet your imaginary son wont even get into your local pub team.
@@erickpk7406 yeah maybe not, but doesn’t change my point
I strongly dislike Arsenal, but if i became a father and my kid became a professional footballer at absolute top level, i would wear their jersey and support them regardless of the team they would have played for.
It`s such a small chance to even become a pro player at the PL, Serie A, Ligue 1, Bundesliga or La Liga level, that i would support them no matter what.
Like even becoming a pro at a mid table level club in any of those leagues are such a massive accomplishment.
Love these hypotheticals lol
Kam, lyes also has a Leicester mahrez top 😂
Bun Real Madrid. I rate Barca more since they promote youth players like United. Madrid just be cheating throughout UCL, whether it’s Nani getting sent off, or Vidal, or Cuadrado to CR7 scoring offside goals like it’s the 1890s 😂
Brother you must've not been around during the Pep Barca days cause the shit they got away with against Arsenal, Chelsea, Inter and even Madrid in the UCL is wild.
@@De3dSh0t u let British media and Twitter merchants manipulate it. Barca should’ve had 2 pens vs Chelsea, Etoo wrongly offside on a 1v1 and Abidal ghost red card. But the media spun the whole ting 😂.
Van Persie wasted time at the Nou Camp, deserved double yellow. What happened vs Inter or Madrid? I know Barca had a goal ruled out wrongly offside in the first leg vs Inter.
@@VelianFootball brother you can make the same arguments for Madrid lol, against Bayern Vidal got a pen he never should have and missed, Lewa's goal was from an offside, Nani literally kicked Arbeloa in the chest, you can say he was going for the ball but he still nearly took his head off (reminds me of Mane red Vs Ederson when he hit him accidentally and got sent off)
Decisions often go both ways but people remember the ones going the way of the victor, but pretending Barca didn't get decisions their way is beyond naive.
@@De3dSh0t I agree the Vidal pen was bs (even though it hit Carvajal’s arm and refs pick n choose when to use the handball call) but 1.) he missed 2.) CR7 scored two offside goals 3.) Vidal got sent off for a clean tackle. How can you equate the 1 pen Bayern got (& missed) to THREE game deciding decisions 😂? And Lewa never scored in that tie so idk what game you’ve been watching.
Nani was looking at the ball, back in 2013 they weren’t red cards. We saw De Jong do it in the WC final. Don’t apply 2024 rules in 2013. Reasonable judgment was allowed back then, it was obvious Nani wasn’t trying to kung fu kick on purpose. But yet again, these 50/50 calls all seem to favour Madrid.
I’m not pretending about anything, you listed examples of games and I’ve countered all of them. You haven’t given any definitive, blatant cheating for Barca like I have with Madrid.
@@VelianFootball Vidal missing doesn't change the fact the pen was given, i.e a wrong decision.
And Lewa didn't score but he played a part in going for the header with Ramos from an offside position which directly led to Muller scoring.
Secondly, they did give reds out, because everyone knows and argued that De Jong should've been sent off for what he did against Alonso and said the ref was wrong, also Mane did it in 2018.
And about Barca, even tho some things did go against them in the first leg against Chelsea as you've mentioned, you can't tell me far more obvious things didn't go against Chelsea in the second leg, there were literally 4 beyond obvious errors in that game.
Van Persie got sent off because he shot the ball 3 seconds after the whistle because he didn't hear it and Arsenal were one up at the time and then Barca scored 3 against a 10 man Arsenal team.
Against Inter Thiago Motta got sent off for a BS decision and despite Inter going through that doesn't change that.
Against Madrid Pepe got sent off in the first leg at 0-0 when Alves spun like a fidget spinner and faked an injury going on a stretcher and appearing completely fine after exactly 60 seconds😂
Btw, I'm not a Madrid fan, and as you said, they've more than had their fair share of BS decisions going their way, but so have Barca, they BOTH benefited a SHIT TON from refs favouring them.
Great video! Mahrez is indeed an Algeria legend on the pitch, but he will always and still come after Zidane, Mbappe, and Benzema in terms of Algerian rooted players.