Even assuming that 25 mm throw for the 100 mm driver is combined 2 way excursion , it is still an amazing 12.5 mm Xmax for such a tiny driver . That kind of Xmax is normally only seen in 10 inch and bigger woofers (250 mm and upwards) . A normal 100 mm woofer has an Xmax of just 3 mm .
if you throw money at a small driver you can get lower distortion. most people would just increase the size of the cone. also there can be problems with getting long throw woofers to work higher in freq
25mm is most likely the xmech, he mention the gap was included. so that is 12mm xmax. same as my 10" subwoofer driver. and about twice i get out of 5" midwoofers on my main speakers.
This video is about the Nautilus speaker for only 1m.25s. After that, the narrative switches to focusing on the designer of the Nautilus speakers moving on from a B&W and designing different speakers for Vivid. At the end, the designer talks about monitor speakers with only 4" drivers. He tries to convince the audience into believing that they can reproduce bass frequencies due to their long throw capability, even though it is well known that even long throw small speakers are less capable of producing bass than larger speakers.
@@nigeltrigger4499 Many people want small speakers even if there are bigger speakers that sound better 😊 And we’re sorry if you found the title as clickbait.
I have had a pair of B&W matrix three since 1987, which I believe correct me if I’m wrong was the beginning of this journey, they still sound as fantastic and true today as they did back then however, I’m sure that overtime my ears would have got used to any changes or Deficiencies . And what would be really nice is to have a view on them and being serviced to make them being as good as they were when they were built, but I don’t know where to go about Achieving this, maybe you have an idea?
They actually were considered lifeless in their day. They had too much matrix construction with foam. Afterwards, B&W reduced the amount of matrix bracing in their subsequent designs.
@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt I get what you say, however, I like the neutrality of the speakers because there is ample room for adding a little colour here and there. B&W probably removed some of the foam because they were extremely expensive to make. I’ve never considered them lifeless. They have been a pleasure to listen to for many years and completely non-fatigue, powerful, deeply involving sound.
@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt Interesting point however however , I like the neutrality of the speakers; there is ample room for adding a little colour here and there. B&W also probably removed some of the bracing also because they were extremely expensive to make . They’ve been a pleasure to listen to for many years with their completely non-fatigue, powerful, deeply involving sound.
Contrary to what the designer stated, B&W had a large 6 foot plus Matrix 800 that B&W supplied to studios that had higher sensitivity (94dB) and 800 watt power handling.
@@IvanTheUndertaker I owned it new in 1991 and you can find a video about someone who currently owns a pair on the Thomas and Stereo channel. It's from a year ago.
I never seen a demo sample on UA-cam that gave me any idea of how the speakers sound. So we don’t do it. But this time, at Bristol HI Fi Show, there were no Nautilus speaker to test at all. I have seen other Nautilus-videoes with sound demo
@@Stereopluss wow, I didn't expect the video creator to reply to a comment thrown in frustration by a nobody like me. You have made a wonderful video explaining the technical details & wind profiling demos by blowing air in it... It was so nicely explained that after hearing all that, I was dying to hear how all this technology would finally sound when all put together.. after your video I viewed a few other UA-cam recommended videos but none had a sample of how nautilus sounded.. may be I was just going with technology involved recommendations instead I should have searched with some other keyword.. It's my bad, sorry for the rude comment. It was not in scope for your video. ,😊
@@meghalvasa Don’t think you were rude. I just wanted to explain how we are thinking. For sound demo try this ua-cam.com/video/6GoH3EPN5CU/v-deo.htmlsi=Wd_okrZpN1__P_Di
@@Stereopluss I saw the same video before you gave the link just by self search. thanks though. I was expecting to hear some music with beats as well to check out clarity & bass. But I didn't find anything. This link just has vocal & piano. Speakers are good but don't sound so extraordinary like the price. I guess you should be very privileged to actually listen to one of the nautilus speakers in real life.
Offcourse it sounds like it's the best , that's the ear piece , but the eye's piece , not really , it will fit in a museum , for music purposes , daring ugly
A video about one of the most iconic speakers ever made, while the audio is totally deep fried. The irony 💀
We are sorry for the sound. The mic was to close here. We will do it better next time :)
Nono, I‘m loving it 🫶
@@Stereopluss Try Samson ub1 (tested them vs a lot of mics), u will notice the difference (qite straight)
Such an honest and expansive explanation. Aesthetics + praticalism. Wonderful engineering. Thanks for a great video!
Thank you 😊
Speakers make sound. I couldn’t care less how they look. I listen with the honesty of a blind man.
3:05
"Is this a speaker?"
"NO THIS IS PATRICK!"
Hello how are you? I was impressed from the first time I saw and heard Nautilus. It's human genius and engineering together for sonic perfection.
Laurence Dickie may just one day build the best loudspeaker we have yet seen. Good luck to him.
Mycket trevligt reportage 👍😀
Tusen takk 😊
I played at a festival in the uk in 2006 that used the PA system in the photos.
aaa yes, Lawrence. now im hearing with open ears. thanks, please do YG acoustics speakers.
Even assuming that 25 mm throw for the 100 mm driver is combined 2 way excursion , it is still an amazing 12.5 mm Xmax for such a tiny driver . That kind of Xmax is normally only seen in 10 inch and bigger woofers (250 mm and upwards) . A normal 100 mm woofer has an Xmax of just 3 mm .
if you throw money at a small driver you can get lower distortion. most people would just increase the size of the cone. also there can be problems with getting long throw woofers to work higher in freq
25mm is most likely the xmech, he mention the gap was included.
so that is 12mm xmax. same as my 10" subwoofer driver.
and about twice i get out of 5" midwoofers on my main speakers.
This video is about the Nautilus speaker for only 1m.25s. After that, the narrative switches to focusing on the designer of the Nautilus speakers moving on from a B&W and designing different speakers for Vivid. At the end, the designer talks about monitor speakers with only 4" drivers. He tries to convince the audience into believing that they can reproduce bass frequencies due to their long throw capability, even though it is well known that even long throw small speakers are less capable of producing bass than larger speakers.
His point is that they produce better bass than many other small speakers. Vivid produce a lot of bigger speakers with better bass
@@Stereopluss So, Nautilus being mentioned is just click bait. Why would anybody want small speakers that don't work as well?
@@nigeltrigger4499 Many people want small speakers even if there are bigger speakers that sound better 😊 And we’re sorry if you found the title as clickbait.
I have had a pair of B&W matrix three since 1987, which I believe correct me if I’m wrong was the beginning of this journey, they still sound as fantastic and true today as they did back then however, I’m sure that overtime my ears would have got used to any changes or Deficiencies . And what would be really nice is to have a view on them and being serviced to make them being as good as they were when they were built, but I don’t know where to go about Achieving this, maybe you have an idea?
They actually were considered lifeless in their day. They had too much matrix construction with foam. Afterwards, B&W reduced the amount of matrix bracing in their subsequent designs.
@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt I get what you say, however, I like the neutrality of the speakers because there is ample room for adding a little colour here and there.
B&W probably removed some of the foam because they were extremely expensive to make. I’ve never considered them lifeless. They have been a pleasure to listen to for many years and completely non-fatigue, powerful, deeply involving sound.
@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt
Interesting point however however , I like the neutrality of the speakers; there is ample room for adding a little colour here and there.
B&W also probably removed some of the bracing also because they were extremely expensive to make . They’ve been a pleasure to listen to for many years with their completely non-fatigue, powerful, deeply involving sound.
Contrary to what the designer stated, B&W had a large 6 foot plus Matrix 800 that B&W supplied to studios that had higher sensitivity (94dB) and 800 watt power handling.
Please would you tell us more about this? Thanks
@@IvanTheUndertaker I owned it new in 1991 and you can find a video about someone who currently owns a pair on the Thomas and Stereo channel. It's from a year ago.
I thought he looked familiar. I have seen him at the hifi show in Tilburg.
I hope you can buy your dream speaker
Thanks for the interview. The gain on his microphone is too high. It is clipping pretty much all the time.
We placed the mic too close here. Nothing to do in post unfortunally
@@Stereopluss It's gain staging, not placement.
@@CyberneticArgumentCreator Both.
Wow audiophiles will buy anything.
The only legendary thing was the legendary price.
Work of art, but not necessarily a work of audio art.
Best sounding speaker I have ever heard.
@@Terranova911RS Audio is subjective. Key here is “ I have ever heard.” I’ll take my Maggie’s or Klipsch over these.
Yes, subjective. I can say that I never heard a Klipsch sounding better than the Nautilus. @@SuppressiveSquirrel
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The pair of those Nautilus still costs about 100.000 Euros… but the membrans are old and not modernized. It is a pity, the styling is extraordinary
The drivers have been updated since they were introduced.
@@BrettinLux then they are about at the Niveau of the new 800 Series 2024? Or nearly?
They were only about $40,000 USD when they were new and the membranes were aluminum which isn't exactly like a 1970s paper cone.
The speakers are hideous. There. I said it. Decades old technology, at an entirely bloated price. I’ll stick with my KEF Reference speakers thanks.
Ok
Common KEF cope
But they sound amazing
What use is this video without a demo sample of how it sounds
I never seen a demo sample on UA-cam that gave me any idea of how the speakers sound. So we don’t do it. But this time, at Bristol HI Fi Show, there were no Nautilus speaker to test at all. I have seen other Nautilus-videoes with sound demo
@@Stereopluss wow, I didn't expect the video creator to reply to a comment thrown in frustration by a nobody like me. You have made a wonderful video explaining the technical details & wind profiling demos by blowing air in it... It was so nicely explained that after hearing all that, I was dying to hear how all this technology would finally sound when all put together.. after your video I viewed a few other UA-cam recommended videos but none had a sample of how nautilus sounded.. may be I was just going with technology involved recommendations instead I should have searched with some other keyword.. It's my bad, sorry for the rude comment. It was not in scope for your video. ,😊
@@meghalvasa Don’t think you were rude. I just wanted to explain how we are thinking. For sound demo try this ua-cam.com/video/6GoH3EPN5CU/v-deo.htmlsi=Wd_okrZpN1__P_Di
@@Stereopluss I saw the same video before you gave the link just by self search. thanks though. I was expecting to hear some music with beats as well to check out clarity & bass. But I didn't find anything. This link just has vocal & piano. Speakers are good but don't sound so extraordinary like the price. I guess you should be very privileged to actually listen to one of the nautilus speakers in real life.
Offcourse it sounds like it's the best , that's the ear piece , but the eye's piece , not really , it will fit in a museum , for music purposes , daring ugly
IS THIS ABOUT VIVID OR THE NAUTILUS 😂 WTF.. IM OUT.
Overkill Over art over priced.
It is not expensive enough, it should coast all your savings so you know it sounds good
It looks very stupid honestly
Worlds most iconic speaker that I have never heard of... Where them JVC or RCA boxes I'll show you what iconic is LOL
You seem not to be the benchmark, the design and the "form follows function" motto is and was unique.
@@Terranova911RS you seem not to get the joke here...